I wonder if those specs are true. Seems underwhelming to me if those specs were to be true.
Currently I use a Xiaomi Mi5s which (after a mod) shoots FullHD at 60fps. I expected a nex gen phone to have at least 4k 60fps.
Anyway, I know it is way to soon to know for sure, but does anyone have some hopes to mod the Mi8\SE the way to make it shoot at 60fps in 4k?
Thanks for any ideas.
PS: Is it true the Mi8\SE doesnt feature optical stabilization?
What you expect for a 240€ device? OIS with 4K @60fps? The Mi8 SE is nothing in compare to the Mi8. Forget UFS, OIS, dual GPS and so on.
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What you expect for a 240€ device? OIS with 4K @60fps? The Mi8 SE is nothing in compare to the Mi8. Forget UFS, OIS, dual GPS and so on.
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I was asking if the MI8 had 4k 60fps or optical stabilization (maybe with the option to lower the frames to film 4k 30 to still have optical stabilization).
So, I rephrase my question:
1. Does the Mi8 have 4k 60fps? Some sites say yes, some say 4k 30fps.
2. Does the Mi8 have Optical Stabilization at all?
3. Does the Mi8 SE have the same camera/video specs (e.g. optical stabilization, etc.)?
I already own my Mi5s which can shoot 4k at 30fps.... -_-
1. Official soirce sad:
4K 视频拍摄，30 fps
1080p 视频拍摄，30 fps
720p 视频拍摄， 30 fps
慢动作视频，720p 240fps 、1080p 240fps
高帧率视频 1080p 120fps
2. Yes
3. No
Main: 后置 12MP ，1.4um 大像素 ，f/1.9 大光圈，Dual PD 双核对焦
后置 5MP ，1.12um 大像素，f/2.0 大光圈
Front: 前置 20MP，4合1 2.0um 大像素
The problem with 4k @60fps is you can just record few min. and the device get super hot.
Klanac89 said:
1. Official soirce sad:
4K 视频拍摄，30 fps
1080p 视频拍摄，30 fps
720p 视频拍摄， 30 fps
慢动作视频，720p 240fps 、1080p 240fps
高帧率视频 1080p 120fps
2. Yes
3. No
Main: 后置 12MP ，1.4um 大像素 ，f/1.9 大光圈，Dual PD 双核对焦
后置 5MP ，1.12um 大像素，f/2.0 大光圈
Front: 前置 20MP，4合1 2.0um 大像素
The problem with 4k @60fps is you can just record few min. and the device get super hot.
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But other devices can do it. Sure they cost a bit more, but that's what Mi-Devices are known for...to be outstanding. Oh well...have to wait for Mi9 or something...
I wonder if those 60fps can be unlocked somehow...i guess we have to wait for the xda devs to check out the device when released.
PS: Wait, FullHD at 30fps on the Mi8? That's a joke right?
The S845 support [email protected] and for sure you will get this option, maybe directly from Xiaomi.
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But other devices can do it. Sure they cost a bit more, but that's what Mi-Devices are known for...to be outstanding. Oh well...have to wait for Mi9 or something...
I wonder if those 60fps can be unlocked somehow...i guess we have to wait for the xda devs to check out the device when released.
PS: Wait, FullHD at 30fps on the Mi8? That's a joke right?
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You should be able to do it. Either by modifying just the media profile of the device or by modding the camera sensor libraries. However, modding libraries isn't an easy task but it's technically possible to do so if the sensor has the capabilities. If the device has a good and skilled developer community then someone will do it eventually. Also FYI, OP6 is the only new Android phone that can record at 4K on a stable 60 FPS and that's also with a 5 minute limitation. You're expecting too much bud.
Mi 8 - [email protected], OIS
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_8-ampp-9065.php
Mi 8 SE - [email protected], no OIS only EIS
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_8_se-9219.php
Thanks for replying. Yes, there are 2 websites online who proclaim Mi8 SE having 4k 60fps, but 95% of the web/youtube reviews say it has only 30fps. That's why I was asking, because some websites either don't know about their topic or are blatantly lying.
Does anyone know if the SE (now that the source code has been released) could be modded for 4k 60fps?
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Mi 8 - [email protected], OIS
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_8-ampp-9065.php
Mi 8 SE - [email protected], no OIS only EIS
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_8_se-9219.php
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Thanks for replying. Yes, there are 2 websites online who proclaim Mi8 SE having 4k 60fps, but 95% of the web/youtube reviews say it has only 30fps. That's why I was asking, because some websites either don't know about their topic or are blatantly lying.
Does anyone know if the SE (now that the source code has been released) could be modded for 4k 60fps?
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60fps recording support is only added on the latest miui10 for some devices, i think we will have to wait a bit more for updated reviews. I'm more interested in the gps for the mi 8SE since it's now selling in my country for a little bit more than the price of mi 6x.
It`s a little shame that phone made in 2018 can`t record 4k 60fps while my old S4+ with SnapDragon 800 (GT-i9506) from sept 2013 can record 4k 30 fps and 4k 20 fps also with default camera app. I ordered Mi 8 from China and phone should be here in few days.
why did u buy it?
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It`s a little shame that phone made in 2018 can`t record 4k 60fps while my old S4+ with SnapDragon 800 (GT-i9506) from sept 2013 can record 4k 30 fps and 4k 20 fps also with default camera app. I ordered Mi 8 from China and phone should be here in few days.
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It`s a little shame that phone made in 2018 can`t record 4k 60fps while my old S4+ with SnapDragon 800 (GT-i9506) from sept 2013 can record 4k 30 fps and 4k 20 fps also with default camera app. I ordered Mi 8 from China and phone should be here in few days.
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4k 60fps is too demanding for any Snapdragon processor at the moment unfortunately
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4k 60fps is too demanding for any Snapdragon processor at the moment unfortunately
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The S9 and OP6 can do 4k60 although short recording time
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The S9 and OP6 can do 4k60 although short recording time
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Yeah I meant for prolonged amount of times the way you can with 1080p, I think some OEM's think it isn't worth stressing the CPU out just for 3-5 mins of 4k footage
How about Zenfone 5z? Unlimited time 4k 60fps footage?
Have you tried opencamera app ?
I personally don't care about [email protected] however, we should have [email protected]
Any news about it with MIUI 10 ? The hardware should support it. :|
I am on chines developer rom and i have FHD 120 fps mode.
But for 4k it has only 30 fps so far.
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It`s a little shame that phone made in 2018 can`t record 4k 60fps while my old S4+ with SnapDragon 800 (GT-i9506) from sept 2013 can record 4k 30 fps and 4k 20 fps also with default camera app. I ordered Mi 8 from China and phone should be here in few days.
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How do you like it?
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Since the release of Lollipop Google introduced us new API for camera and that feature is really epic. Developer Chih Mao Chen made camera app for lollipop in which our phone nexus 5 is able to record in almost 4k resolution.
Download Android L camera app here:
https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera/blob/master/lcamera-debug.apk?raw=true
Note: all credits goes to developer who made this app, I'm only sharing this with you guys and sorry if this is already posted.
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Works fine for me.
Is the quality difference significant?
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Is the quality difference significant?
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Low FPS for sure . and no it doesn't look that good .. Too much noise
For me its very crisp, sharp. I really love it, and it really surprises me that N5 camera can shoot 4K videos
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Below is the original. All discussions are ongoing there. It would be more helpful if all interested members can discuss there[emoji4]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2912372
It doesn't for me. It's probably the camera that worked fine on 4K but the snapdragon 800 SoC that couldnt handle 4k Probably.
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It doesn't for me. It's probably the camera that worked fine on 4K but the snapdragon 800 SoC that couldnt handle 4k Probably.
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It works fine, you need latest lollipop for it to work
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Low FPS for sure . and no it doesn't look that good .. Too much noise
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Use manual exposure and it records 30 FPS for sure.
Also, Snapdragon 800 does support 4K, it's the camera that doesn't (3264x2448 is 8 MP, 4K is 3840 x 2160; not enough horizontal pixels).
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Use manual exposure and it records 30 FPS for sure.
Also, Snapdragon 800 does support 4K, it's the camera that doesn't (3264x2448 is 8 MP, 4K is 3840 x 2160; not enough horizontal pixels).
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But still it's pretty amazing resolution. Our **** camera just got better.
According to this:
http://hispeedcams.com/lenovo-zuk-z2-pro-will-have-960fps-video-confirmed/
ZUK Z2 Pro should be capable of recording video at 960 FPS.
It is probably achieved through interpolation or something, or not at all (see Mediatek and their "[email protected] FPS").
Anyway, when you guys get hands on ZUK Z2 Pro, share your impressions and what the camera is really capable of.
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According to this:
http://hispeedcams.com/lenovo-zuk-z2-pro-will-have-960fps-video-confirmed/
ZUK Z2 Pro should be capable of recording video at 960 FPS.
It is probably achieved through interpolation or something, or not at all (see Mediatek and their "[email protected] FPS").
Anyway, when you guys get hands on ZUK Z2 Pro, share your impressions and what the camera is really capable of.
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Yeah it is on official site, there is 960 fps but unfortunately resolution is not mentioned.
Something is written in chinese forum that 960fps is not supported yet because there is no ZUI 2.0 yet.
So we will have to wait a little for a review.
hello everybody, as a student very intersted i made a little calcul. The snapdragon 820 is able to encode 4k video at 30fps, ie 8.29 Mega pixel at 30fps. So the sd 820 encode 248 Mpixels per seconds. So at 960fps, it means that you get about an image of 0.25 Mpixel,which is roughly a 480*640 pic. Not bad. However if some Mediatek CPU encode at 1080p 480 fps, and if the sd820 is considered better, then he can encode more than 2.09*480 Mpixel per seconds, which match 720p at 960fps. hoping for some other resolution/fps solutions from ZUI 2.0. But if there is no breaktrough for the camera then 960fps is impossible to reach( this far this speed is only achieved by pro cameras which cost thousands), meaning it's a false rumor launch by zuk for marketing aims. Wait for the reviews is my last advice. tchao
SD 801 was capable of [email protected] FPS already (h264).
SD820 is capable of 28 MPx/s (4K is 8MPx) , so theoretically, it is capable of much more than just what you mentioned. [email protected] FPS is only HEVC bottleneck.
https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/snapdragon-820-processor-product-brief.pdf
MTK claimed their SoC is capable of [email protected] with the use of a Sony's sensor which didn't even have that capability in it's datasheet.
And honestly, it's been a long time since they announced that and have you seen it ever come true?
The only mobile camera sensor capable of very high FPS up to this moment was Toshiba's T4K82 with [email protected] FPS, [email protected] fps and [email protected]
http://www.androidauthority.com/toshiba-240fps-t4k82-sensor-596203/&ved=0ahUKEwjDx_zy4f3MAhUFORQKHXP1BisQFggcMAA&usg=AFQjCNHi7pL_vdS6wb7F9fnUwtST4ip4IA&sig2=nTEBpX31ZuZS2WzWgj5VAQ
But it never appeared in a phone (or any device really), guess it was not as good as they claimed it to be...
OmniVision's OV13870 is capable of up to [email protected] through cropping and binning. However I have a feeling that they are actually the only one to be honest and admit it is not REAL 1080p. Because every slow-motion recorded with a phone I saw was like of a lower resolution then the file captained to be of. (720p looked like 360p, etc)
In my opinion, 960 FPS video recording is not possible with the mobile camera sensors which are currently at the market... Besides, iPhone always seems to come first with better slow-motion (they introduced 240FPS with a Sony sensor and nobody was able to compete woth that for more than half a year). They haven't even introduced 480FPS yet and somebody claims to have achieved 960 fps? I consoder that highly unlikely.
That is why I am looking for what comes out of ZUK Z2... If it really is a 'scam', then I say that they (ZUK and Lenovo) need to be punished...
Even if they come up with something ugly like frame interpolation.
First samples regarding the slow-motion video recording:
http://www.gizchina.com/2016/06/08/weekend-zuk-z2-pro/
So now it is confirmed - it does not record at 960 FPS. It does not even record at 240 FPS.
It records at only 120 FPS ! 720p is the resolution.. but honestly, it does not even look like 720p... more like 576p.
And the player allows you to set the playback speed... so for 960 FPS they basically play one frame 8 times....
Pretty disappointing...
This phone continues to amaze me. After discovering RAW still capture, now this.
Apparently the Huawei P9 Lite can record 2K and 4K* video. And to top that with a big juicy cherry, you can get bitrates as high as 70MBS, hovering around a 50MBPS constant. AT 2K resolution. This is quite impressive for a phone camera, I'm talking even flagship level.
I'm not even joking.
I mean why not?! Camera API2 supports 4K, the camera sensor supports 4K, I'm not entirely sure about the SoC, but the Kirin 650 is proving to be one of the better, albeit very comfortably mid-range, chips Huawei has produced.
Everyone can try this on their devices, completely hassle-free, safe, wihtout any mods. You do have to buy an app from the Play Store. It's about $13 and that's that. You install the app and choose your desired resolution in the app settings.
The app is called. FiLMiC Pro
A few remarks:
Be sure to have Crop source to overlay turned OFF when filming 2K, or 4K.
4K is TERRIBLE! It's really quite unusable. I've only been able to get around 5-8 FPS video at 4K. Choppy, lots of lost frames.
2K is however quite usable. Clean video, no missed frames, no artefacting.
I've only just found out this works, very accidentally and with a a lot of surprise and enthusiasm. I need to do a lot more test shots before I can form a solid opinion over the gains and benefits. For now I'm really very hyped and not sure if the difference I see is just placebo or not.
What's certain is that this means a lot for whoever's doing any serious filming with the Huawei P9 Lite. Higher bitrates, the ability to downscale 2K to 1080 for extra *MAGIC*... I can't wait to go out shooting video in real-case scenarios and do more testing on the stability and reliability of shooting at these resolutions.
I'd love for more of you to try this and shoot some video so we can compare findings and share opinions.
*) Almost
Also turns out this is my 1001st post on XDA. Yay.
Look at this screenshot.
And then try it yourself.
P10 lite can record 4k using snap camera
Is there a way to do it for free?
aburezk said:
P10 lite can record 4k using snap camera
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How? There is only 1080 maximum resolution... as far as I can see.
vozilo said:
Is there a way to do it for free?
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Apparently Open Camera. I'm not convinced though.
zgomot said:
How? There is only 1080 maximum resolution... as far as I can see.
Apparently Open Camera. I'm not convinced though.
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P10 lite support api2 if you enable it you can record 4k using snapcamera
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P10 lite support api2 if you enable it you can record 4k using snapcamera
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We're talking about the P9Lite here, not the P10Lite.
With the P9Lite, even with Camera2API enabled, the maximum resolution is still 1080.
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We're talking about the P9Lite here, not the P10Lite.
With the P9Lite, even with Camera2API enabled, the maximum resolution is still 1080.
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I know it doesn't show 4k but you can force it
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I know it doesn't show 4k but you can force it
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I tried and it still only does 1080p.
Hi, has stabilization for 1080p 60 fps video been added or at least improved in latest updates. Who can confirm this ????
Never come OIS on 60 fps maybe!!! maybe eis possibble.but yet no
Saw this sample on youtube
It shows a well stabilized 60fps FHD video from the p20 pro.
Can anyone (having the latest soft update) test 60 fps FHD video Stabilization to figure out that
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Saw this sample on youtube
It shows a well stabilized 60fps FHD video from the p20 pro.
Can anyone (having the latest soft update) test 60 fps FHD video Stabilization to figure out that
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Bare in mind that YouTube stabilizes videos automatically.
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Bare in mind that YouTube stabilizes videos automatically.
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In that case we would never notice unstabilized p20 pro videos from youtube posted videos
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In that case we would never notice unstabilized p20 pro videos from youtube posted videos
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Well you can see some ghosting but it does a decent job
Google photos can also stabilise videos.
But you just can't beat OIS
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Well you can see some ghosting but it does a decent job
Google photos can also stabilise videos.
But you just can't beat OIS
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That s true. Huawei should at least implement EIS gyroscope based
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That s true. Huawei should at least implement EIS gyroscope based
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They can add a form of EIS but it'll never be brilliant, it's one of the reasons I wanted a new phone, the OnePlus 5 only had EIS, it's just not good enough.
With the pro though, 800 quid and no OIS throughout? Terrible to be honest.
Anyone has a credible explanation as to why OIS is not present at 1080 60? I can understand it not being available in higher resolutions but really at 1080 60, on a flagship with is marketed as (and by many agreed to be) the best camera phone of the market it's just not acceptable. Found out while waiting for my order to ship and am pretty pi$$ed.
Can we at least hope it will be added with a sw update in the future or it's not possible technically? Is the P20Pro sensor's OIS somehow bound to the 30fps?
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Anyone has a credible explanation as to why OIS is not present at 1080 60? I can understand it not being available in higher resolutions but really at 1080 60, on a flagship with is marketed as (and by many agreed to be) the best camera phone of the market it's just not acceptable. Found out while waiting for my order to ship and am pretty pi$$ed.
Can we at least hope it will be added with a sw update in the future or it's not possible technically? Is the P20Pro sensor's OIS somehow bound to the 30fps?
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P20 pro never had ois on its main camera, the rgb and mono. It only has ois on the telephoto 8mp lens to assist with too much vibration while zooming. The 1080p 30fps only uses eis/ais.
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P20 pro never had ois on its main camera, the rgb and mono. It only has ois on the telephoto 8mp lens to assist with too much vibration while zooming. The 1080p 30fps only uses eis/ais.
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1080p @30fps has to be OIS??
I've been at the absolute maximum zoom limit whilst recording and the stabilization is amazing, if that's EIS then it's incredible and a lot better than any OIS i've ever seen on any device, I would say at 1080p 30fps it has OIS unless as i said it's got the best implementation of EIS i've ever seen.
Also @ the OP.
OIS by all accounts is available in the cameras on a hardware level but it's not been implemented, i read this a while ago about the p20 pro, whether or not they'll have this as a feature at some point I don't know, it wouldn't be unlike Huawei to add features but not make them active.
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1080p @30fps has to be OIS??
I've been at the absolute maximum zoom limit whilst recording and the stabilization is amazing, if that's EIS then it's incredible and a lot better than any OIS i've ever seen on any device, I would say at 1080p 30fps it has OIS unless as i said it's got the best implementation of EIS i've ever seen.
Also @ the OP.
OIS by all accounts is available in the cameras on a hardware level but it's not been implemented, i read this a while ago about the p20 pro, whether or not they'll have this as a feature at some point I don't know, it wouldn't be unlike Huawei to add features but not make them active.
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I read somewhere that the rgb and mono hardware moving is for autofocus not ois. It's ais (ai stabilizer) that making the recording good at stabilizing.
Oh not to mention xperia's steady shot is EIS and not OIS and it's pretty good.
So, if it's all digital, does it make even more sense to expect it being available in the future on resolutions greater than 1080 30? I mean at least 1080 60 should be standard in 2018 flagships!
I bought a gimbal for $90... Im hoping this would do the trick for 4k stabilization...
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I bought a gimbal for $90... Im hoping this would do the trick for 4k stabilization...
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My thoughts exactly. I am one click away form ordering the Zhiyun Smooth Q. Then again I know the AIS on the P20 Pro works superbly so I can maybe limit my videos to 1080 30? Decisions decisions...
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My thoughts exactly. I am one click away form ordering the Zhiyun Smooth Q. Then again I know the AIS on the P20 Pro works superbly so I can maybe limit my videos to 1080 30? Decisions decisions...
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Thats the one I got.. It seems to be pretty good... I havent done any intense testing just around the house for now.. works well...
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1080p @30fps has to be OIS??
I've been at the absolute maximum zoom limit whilst recording and the stabilization is amazing, if that's EIS then it's incredible and a lot better than any OIS i've ever seen on any device, I would say at 1080p 30fps it has OIS unless as i said it's got the best implementation of EIS i've ever seen.
Also @ the OP.
OIS by all accounts is available in the cameras on a hardware level but it's not been implemented, i read this a while ago about the p20 pro, whether or not they'll have this as a feature at some point I don't know, it wouldn't be unlike Huawei to add features but not make them active.
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Yes it's AIS. And Sony uses the same excellent stabilisation. Better than OIS hands down. I had Sony phone before. Just a shame that Huawei didn't implement it at 4k and at 60fps.
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I read somewhere that the rgb and mono hardware moving is for autofocus not ois. It's ais (ai stabilizer) that making the recording good at stabilizing.
Oh not to mention xperia's steady shot is EIS and not OIS and it's pretty good.
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Yea it's absolutely amazing. Never seen anything like it..
yeah EIS is good.. but it crops the image too much. I prefer OIS
So sad you’ll had to buy an stabilizer device.... having the most powerfull mobile in photos of 2018.... I have my iPhone 7 Plus with FHD/60fps with stabilization in fact.... better videos with a mobile of 2016...
Is there a way to enable recording of 240 FPS slow-mo? I really do not mind the video being at quality of 720p, If the phone is capable of 1080p @240, I do not see a reason why it would not handle higher framerate at 720p.
where did you find info that it could handle 240 fps? i thought it was more like 60 (or 120 for 720p max)? don't get me wrong, i would like to see that, but imo this is out of A2's reach.
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Is there a way to enable recording of 240 FPS slow-mo? I really do not mind the video being at quality of 720p, If the phone is capable of 1080p @240, I do not see a reason why it would not handle higher framerate at 720p.
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It records video in 1080p at 60fps or 720p at 120fps.
The 660 chipset on the Mi A2 IS capable of 240FPS @ 720P.
(https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-660-mobile-platform)
The limiting factors here would be either A.) the camera modules or B.) software implementation.
So, in theory, yes but further testing/research would have to go into determining the possibility.
This would best be a question for Xiaomi support:
https://www.mi.com/global/support/contact/
Good luck!
and C) the willingness of Xiaomi of course
^^^ Absolutely this. LOL.
Even Mi 8 lite has 240FPS @720p, it uses the same CPU, so it is a software matter, so there should be a way to enable it.
@ond96
And you're likely right but, as of now, no one on XDA has volunteered to implement such a change.
Please contact Xiaomi and inquire further with them.