Data Delete warning : potential for misuse - Moto G6 Questions & Answers

After 4 unsuccessful for screen unlocking I get a message that after 4 more unsuccessful attemps, all the data will be deleted.
This is highly problematic as the phone can get into hands of a kid or someone known and by chance or design all they have to do is to enter 8 wrong passwords and all the data gets deleted. This is highly disturbing feature. How to turn it off.
I was using Moto g3 with same apps (including Microsoft company portal) and I never got this message. I switched to Moto g6 and these messages have started.
Pls help.

I think this may be connected to your company policies.
I do not recieve such a message. Only that I have had too many unsuccessful attempts and must wait.
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I'm sure this is a security feature. It'll wipe the phone so no one has access to your information and files. Then after it wipes, when someone tries to setup the phone it'll ask for the password from the Google account that was on the phone before the wipe. I just tried mine and I get the same thing as rufy93, it says to wait and try again.

I concur with the above users that that data erase appears to be as a company IT policy (likely managed through Microsoft Company Portal/Intune). I'd contact your work IT team and verify the policy on losing your device/unauthorised access management. They may advise you that, if it's a company device, that it's your responsibility to keep it on your person and safe.

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Google Wallet lock out (Secure Element not responding)

I seem to be locked out of Google Wallet on my Nexus S 4G. I have been GW for 4 months on custom roms with no issues. The other day when flashing a peter Alfonso ICS Rom (full wipe) and launching GW App i got the error message Secure Element Not Responding. Since then i have re wiped and re flashed, Unrooted to stock 2.3.7 and re rooted back to CM9 and i still get the error message on any rom i try whether i am rooted and un rooted.
I even tries a nandroid back up when GW was working and it still wont work.
Can anyone help me out. ?
You will need to make a phone call to Money Network or Google for a "master reset". I called the Money Network number last night (01/29/12) around 11pm and I am waiting for a call back from them.
This seems to be happening a lot to Galaxy Nexus owners. I think mine was a result of restoring wallet data from Titanium backup. I do not think Google Wallet should be included with ICS Gapps.
Luckily, our phone is officially supported, some Galaxy Nexus owners are getting pushback from Money Network/Google when requesting a master reset.
Here are the numbers listed on the Google Wallet "Contact Us" page:
For Google Wallet related questions contact google toll-free at 855-492-5538
For Google Prepaid Card questions contact Money Network at 855-896-0693
I feel like maybe I should have contacted the Google number as opposed to the Money Network number, the CSR said she had to contact Google. Maybe this will save a step. She said it can be 24-48 hours before someone contacts you. I will update this post with the number that calls me.
You mean this type of reset:
http://support.sprint.com/support/t...eset_Samsung_Nexus_S_4G_from_Google/25162-101 ?
Unfortunately no. This has to do with them resetting your Google Wallet account. They need your IMEI (MEID) number. I am waiting for a call back, I will keep you posted.
Nick N said:
Unfortunately no. This has to do with them resetting your Google Wallet account. They need your IMEI (MEID) number. I am waiting for a call back, I will keep you posted.
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Thanks .. awaiting your response !
Still no contact as of 3:45pm, maybe someone wants to try contacting Google using this method?:
http://support.google.com/wallet/bi...contact_policy&policy=mobile&test=country-US&
I would do it, but I do not want them to get annoyed since I am still in their 24-48 hour contact window.
I spoke to the Google Wallet team and there responce was it was a hardware issue and item needs to either be replaced or repaired by Sprint or Samsung. Not sure how it bacame a hardware issue ?
Anyways i took my phone to sprint repair and gonna pick it up at 5pm to see what they can do to fix.
Here is the response i got:
Re: [#955******] Follow-up to Google Wallet
Google Wallet Support [email protected]
1:37 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
Hi Nathan,
Thank you for calling Google Wallet. To have the secure element looked at
for assistance, I suggest contact a Sprint Service shop for this matter.
With the Secure Element not responding, its a matter with the hardware of
the device.
It was a pleasure assisting you today. Feel free to contact us again if
you have any additional questions regarding Google Wallet or visit our
Help Center at http://www.google.com/support/wallet
Sincerely,
Paul
The Google Wallet Team
Any updates? I am still waiting for my call.
Went back to sprint store this evening and they said they did a master reset and the problem was still there.
They offered me a replacement phone (refurbished) which will come in 3 days. They also told me they don't know what the problem is or how it occurred.
I don't know what caused this but I'm gonna avoid using g wallet on my replacement till there is a fix.
Really a strange issue that google wallet is malfunctioning the hardware !
At least you will get a replacement!
2 questions:
1. Did you use an ICS Rom (I think the answer is yes);
2. Did you use Titanium Backup to backup Google Wallet?
There is absolutely nothing a sprint store could do to fix that.
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I'm real happy I got a replacement since phone was 6 months old and was pretty beat up.
1: I did use several ICS ROM's
2:I usually back up all my apps but I don't think the google apps get backed when doing a batch back up with titanium backup so not sure
Money Network called, gave me a few BS steps (remove battery, turn on and off NFC setting, wait 5 minutes). She said if that doesn't work I need a new phone.
it happens when moving between ics and gb roms since rooting could mess with the money... it happened to me a while ago when i unrooted and updated back to 2.3.7 from 2.3.5 but i have a asurion replacement phone so asurion has no problem sending me a phone when this happens...
Try to disable NFC, start wallet, and re-enable it (possibly wiping the wallet app data from app management between the steps). I did get the "secure element stopped responding"-message too (after using the internal wallet wipe function), but it seems it was just a really nasty kind of driver crash and it started working after I messed around a bit. (It did not work after just a Factory Data Reset if I remember correctly!)
So I used the Samsung PC tool to flash stock 2.3.4 on my phone, activated it and signed in. Here are some of my test results:
2.3.4 - Allowed me to download Wallet but said hardware was not supported.
2.3.5 - When activating the NFC it gave me an error
2.3.7 - Secure Element message.
I was able to get to the Google Wallet setup screen by frantically tapping the lock button in the top right corner when on the main page with the offers, payment cards, and transactions. It allowed me to select my account and sent me an email but kept throwing the Secure Element message, which can be bypassed by pressing the search button.
Tried to add a prepaid card... it acted like it wanted to but ending up showing an error adding card message.
When I tried to use the reset feature within the Wallet app it pretends like it resets but it does not.
Nick N said:
So I used the Samsung PC tool to flash stock 2.3.4 on my phone, activated it and signed in. Here are some of my test results:
2.3.4 - Allowed me to download Wallet but said hardware was not supported.
2.3.5 - When activating the NFC it gave me an error
2.3.7 - Secure Element message.
I was able to get to the Google Wallet setup screen by frantically tapping the lock button in the top right corner when on the main page with the offers, payment cards, and transactions. It allowed me to select my account and sent me an email but kept throwing the Secure Element message, which can be bypassed by pressing the search button.
Tried to add a prepaid card... it acted like it wanted to but ending up showing an error adding card message.
When I tried to use the reset feature within the Wallet app it pretends like it resets but it does not.
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Alright listen carefully. Sprint support and even money network, from my experience, understand nothing when it comes to rooting. On a completely stock phone the issue would be hardware. In this case I'm not convinced. Have u done the msl reset? Use 786 and if that gets u to triangle use the sctrn number which is 72786, then 786. Know that 786 will wipe it internal storage so backup to comp. The point is to wipe so utterly then go to recovery and flash wipe all zip then flash latest vhgomez lota or whatever from, make sure u flash the radio, then bootuo, run thru setup, let it program/activate your phone, once that's all done try wallet and report here.
Goodluck!
PS going stock does not do this kind of wipe if I recall correctly, nor would the sprint store. Not right anyway.
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Try to disable NFC, start wallet, and re-enable it (possibly wiping the wallet app data from app management between the steps). I did get the "secure element stopped responding"-message too (after using the internal wallet wipe function), but it seems it was just a really nasty kind of driver crash and it started working after I messed around a bit. (It did not work after just a Factory Data Reset if I remember correctly!)
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So, it is NOT a hardware issue and somehow fixable. I wish you remembered exactly what you did and started working again.
Not getting a error but it will not let me in google wallet
I was on CM9 and went back to a old NAD back up to stock and pulled the 4.0.4 OTA. Google wallet won't let me in now. I called the google # they asked me same stuff. Asked me my MSID and told me that she would send it up the line and I will get a email about it.
Secure Element Error Message
The NFC transmits information from the secure element. They are both different chips within the phone. If the secure element breaks, NFC will still work, but you will not be able to use Google Wallet on the phone anymore.
The "Secure Element" works closely with the NFC Chip as a security feature. When it is tampered physically or with software (rooting and perhaps changing ROMS), it is set up to destroy itself. When it is destroyed, the only solution is to replace the phone. (Factory Data Reset, unrooted, and revert back to stock will not fix the problem).
Google Tech Support sends a typical email to owners who ends up having this error message:
"We strongly discourage gaining system-level "root" access to your phone if you plan to use Google Wallet. We are unable to support devices with unauthorized operating systems as the security layers of the device may be limited.
If you have other questions, please reply to this email and I'll be happy to help."
I hear it is about 50% hit and miss on rooted phones depending on what owners do with their phones. So, with that said, I would suggest you, as rooted owners stick with the SAME ROM all the way if you want to use Google Wallet. The Secure Element have only 1 life, not "9 lives". You are on your own discretion / risk.
Google will replace the Galaxy Nexus phones for free as long it is stock and not rooted.
Unlocked Galaxy Nexus phones are on sale via Google Play for $399, no contract.
---Sharmy

[Q] Sent phone back for warranty, T-Mobile didn't reset it

Long story short, my first HTC One had dead pixels so I warranty exchanged it. Stupidly, I assumed T-Mobile would factory reset my phone before selling it as a refurb, but no. A few days ago, I started getting random instant uploads on my Google+. Then, my Facebook was locked due to account activity in MEXICO (also where the photos were located), and now, I checked my Gmail, and there are sent messages to random people I do not know. I have changed my passwords, but what I'm wondering is, can T-Mobile really get away with this? They took a phone they knowingly know was defective, did not even turn it on to look at it or reset it, and sold it (or gave it) to some guy in Mexico.
What can I do? Who knows what sensitive information that person took? Obviously, since they've been using my account, they couldn't possibly think they were using their own account. T-Mobile is not open for customer support until the morning, but I'm FREAKING OUT and absolutely furious that something like this was allowed to happen.
first of all that really sucks that that happened. i cant imagine what that other person in "mexico" could have taken from your personal info wise....
i would call them and see what happened. make sure to also monitor your credit. you never know what they could have taken.
that is a pretty ridiculous breach of private info if you ask me
I feel bad for you that this happened. But really you should have done the factory reset before you sent it back. There is no way I would send my phone without doing this
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Obviously, to all those detractors, I normally reset my phone before sending it in for repairs/exchange. It slipped my mind this time; screw me for assuming the big phone company would handle things correctly, huh?
In any case, the instant upload photos have EXIF and location data pinpointing the exact location of the photos. It'd be hard for them to argue that it's not coming from my previous phone when:
1. I have emails being sent from my account to people I have never spoken to
2. I'm not in Mexico; I'm in Virginia
3. My Facebook was also locked due to being accessed... from Mexico
I'm about to call T-Mobile (after eating breakfast). Wish me luck.
aznxk3vi17 said:
Obviously, to all those detractors, I normally reset my phone before sending it in for repairs/exchange. It slipped my mind this time; screw me for assuming the big phone company would handle things correctly, huh?
In any case, the instant upload photos have EXIF and location data pinpointing the exact location of the photos. It'd be hard for them to argue that it's not coming from my previous phone when:
1. I have emails being sent from my account to people I have never spoken to
2. I'm not in Mexico; I'm in Virginia
3. My Facebook was also locked due to being accessed... from Mexico
I'm about to call T-Mobile (after eating breakfast). Wish me luck. And thanks, everyone, for calling me stupid.
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Go for it and let us know what happens. Expect to speak with a supervisor, because a normal employee most likely legitimately won't be able to help your situation. Know what you're going to ask them for (compensation or whatever it is you're looking for).
I know that at AT&T, they reset your device when you exchange it.
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No reason for calling anybody stupid. It might have not been the best idea, but still we can keep a civilized tone here.
cheers
So I just had a conversation with a T-Mobile representative. He claims to have spoken with T-Mobile engineers and HTC representatives, and they all told him that there was nothing they could do. The T-Mobile guy pinned the blame on HTC, saying it's their responsibility to wipe phones before sending them back to T-Mobile for selling. Either way, I also discovered the IMEI for my old phone was still linked to my account, even though I've since received a replacement device with a new IMEI. Apparently, there was nothing he could do with that information either.
So, he just says they'll "keep an eye out" on my account looking for suspicious activity. I think I'll call back later and explicitly ask for a manager (this time I figured he could do something with the IMEI). I would have asked for the manager, but I have work to do, after all.
Is there anything they should be able to do with the IMEI? They said they can't wipe the phone anymore without the actual device, and they have NO IDEA who the phone belongs to now. You'd think they keep track of that sort of thing.
That really stinks that they would resell without resetting the phone. I have Cerberus installed as a hidden system app on all our phones, can remotely lock, locate, and factory reset if need be. Well worth it.
aznxk3vi17 said:
So I just had a conversation with a T-Mobile representative. He claims to have spoken with T-Mobile engineers and HTC representatives, and they all told him that there was nothing they could do. The T-Mobile guy pinned the blame on HTC, saying it's their responsibility to wipe phones before sending them back to T-Mobile for selling. Either way, I also discovered the IMEI for my old phone was still linked to my account, even though I've since received a replacement device with a new IMEI. Apparently, there was nothing he could do with that information either.
So, he just says they'll "keep an eye out" on my account looking for suspicious activity. I think I'll call back later and explicitly ask for a manager (this time I figured he could do something with the IMEI). I would have asked for the manager, but I have work to do, after all.
Is there anything they should be able to do with the IMEI? They said they can't wipe the phone anymore without the actual device, and they have NO IDEA who the phone belongs to now. You'd think they keep track of that sort of thing.
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They're just playing the blame game. I'd believe them when they say it's HTC's responsibility (sounds reasonable), but HTC might say the reverse, that it's T-Mobile's responsibility. Like I said, unless you have some sort of compensation in mind, they're probably not going to offer you anything. Checking for "suspicious activity" on your T-Mobile account is useless since it's not even on your account anymore. The IMEI number might be able to be blacklisted so it can't be used on T-Mobile (and soon in the US altogether), but that's about it really.
There are a few apps that let you track down a phone after it's lost, but here's one that actually lets you WIPE it afterwards. Provided the guy still has your Google account on the phone, you should be able to install this via Google Play on your computer (the phone should still be associated on your account) and then wipe it. It'll say the name of the carrier it's on in Mexico followed by "HTC One."
http://lifehacker.com/android-lost-controls-your-stolen-phone-even-after-you-511903024
Don't change your Google passwords yet because it needs your Google account to work. Afterwards, you can change all your passwords.
cschmitt said:
That really stinks that they would resell without resetting the phone. I have Cerberus installed as a hidden system app on all our phones, can remotely lock, locate, and factory reset if need be. Well worth it.
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Yeah, I had already installed Cerberus. Problem is, I removed the phone from my Cerberus account because I wrongly assumed I wouldn't need it anymore. If I had kept it installed and on my account for just a few days longer, I'd be able to lock the phone, but alas.
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They're just playing the blame game. I'd believe them when they say it's HTC's responsibility (sounds reasonable), but HTC might say the reverse, that it's T-Mobile's responsibility. Like I said, unless you have some sort of compensation in mind, they're probably not going to offer you anything. Checking for "suspicious activity" on your T-Mobile account is useless since it's not even on your account anymore. The IMEI number might be able to be blacklisted so it can't be used on T-Mobile (and soon in the US altogether), but that's about it really.
There are a few apps that let you track down a phone after it's lost, but here's one that actually lets you WIPE it afterwards. Provided the guy still has your Google account on the phone, you should be able to install this via Google Play on your computer (the phone should still be associated on your account) and then wipe it. It'll say the name of the carrier it's on in Mexico followed by "HTC One."
http://lifehacker.com/android-lost-controls-your-stolen-phone-even-after-you-511903024
Don't change your Google passwords yet because it needs your Google account to work. Afterwards, you can change all your passwords.
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I've already changed my passwords. I assume changing my password back to my original wouldn't work, since it would still require the person with my phone to log on with it? Also, the SIM was of course removed, so I can't use that app, since I don't know the phone number of the person now carrying the old phone.
aznxk3vi17 said:
Yeah, I had already installed Cerberus. Problem is, I removed the phone from my Cerberus account because I wrongly assumed I wouldn't need it anymore. If I had kept it installed and on my account for just a few days longer, I'd be able to lock the phone, but alas.
I've already changed my passwords. I assume changing my password back to my original wouldn't work, since it would still require the person with my phone to log on with it? Also, the SIM was of course removed, so I can't use that app, since I don't know the phone number of the person now carrying the old phone.
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I don't think changing your password back would work. You don't need a SIM card in the phone for it to work. It needs any data connection (e.g. Wifi).

Think I have a problem - cannot log in after resetting phone

Okay, starting from the beginning.
I bought a slightly used Nexus 6 in excellent shape. When it arrived, I was able to set it up once (with my account, a Google Apps for Business account using my own domain); I set it up temporarily wifi only, waiting to plug in the SIM. After setting it up, I got prompted to upgrade from 5.1.1 to Marshmallow, which I did.
I'm beginning to enjoy the phone, and I look at the Marshmallow version. MRA58K. So, I find that MR58R is out and I decide to upgrade, following the instructions to flash stock recovery. So far, so good. I begin the fastboot process, and it is writing all the files, when it reports it cannot flash the bootloader, it is locked. I missed this part of the step because I was distracted by other events going on in my house, and instead of rebooting the phone at this point to try and unlock the bootloader, I go into recovery mode and tell it to wipe the phone.
The phone wipes, and boots back up as if normal. That is, until I get to the spot where I need to sign in with my Google account. I try signing in with mine, and I can't - I'm told I need the owner account. Great. So I contact the seller, who is a decent enough guy, who trusts me enough to give me temporary access to his account, in the event that's the problem. I can't get in with his account either. Note for my account, I have not reset the password in a long time, and from what the phone seller told me, he has not with is either ( I'm aware of the 72 hour delay if you do).
The phone shows up as a device in my Google Apps for Business account, but I cannot contact it in any way from there. I've tried "fastboot oem unlock" from the SDK tools, but it fails. I can't get past the prompt asking me to log in. Any one who can offer some help here, I'd really appreciate it; if I can get in just once, I know I can fix anything else. I just don't know how.
Additional note - I did manage to remove the phone from the previous user's Android Device Manager, as I have the account credentials. This, however, has not resolved my issue.
I don't get it --I was able to register the phone with my account the first time I set it up. I'm not sure why it doesn't let me sign in with that account now. I had the phone operational for twelve hours before flashing, so I'd think the link between my Google account and it would be just fine.
I just spoke with Google Store support:
Apparently (according to them), regardless of whether you reset your Google account password or not, factory-resetting the phone means the 72-hour wait period until you can get back in begins unless you have removed your Google account from the phone (and/or with Android Device Manager) prior to the factory reset. This was contrary to my understanding of this only happening if you changed the password shortly before resetting the phone.
I guess I'll find out in about two and a half days; I'll update this thread then.

N950f-ds [galaxy note 8 exynos] - rmm state lock

Hello,
I negotiated a Galaxy Note 8 (SM-N950F/DS) through a site of collective purchases in Brazil, with invoice and all the accessories.
I did all the tests in the device and I decided to buy it, because it seemed reliable.
The device already had the factory settings, but with Android 7.1.1.
I activated automatic update in order to upgrade the android to 8.0.
I received the update and installed it. When restarting the phone, I started the settings normally, I was able to configure the Samsung Account, but when I was starting the configuration of the Google account my phone blocked.
After trying several unlock passwords, I made contact with SAMSUNG which instructed me to send the device for local service.
When I arrived at the service it was verified that my device had "transport block" and who is responsible for unlocking the device is the store in which the device was purchased.
I went to the store that was described in the purchase invoice and there informed me that the store does not perform any kind of unlock or block, so I could not solve the problem.
After several discussions with Samsung and the store, it was verified that my invoice was exchanged and that it was possibly not true.
It was from there that I realized that I was deceived by the seller of the device, because when I try to contact him, my calls do not complete and he blocked me in the social networks.
The only information I have about him is his name and the phone number that should have already been discarded.
Anyway, I realized that I would have to try on my own. Because of this, I am doing this post. I apologize for the long text above before passing the technical information, I had to explain what happened, because I do not want to pass as a thief.
After doing several research I found that the lock was being triggered by RLC.apk which is located at "/system/priv-app/Rlc/Rlc.apk" in stock firmwares.
I found an instruction that guided to freeze the performance of this app with application Ice box v3.1.9.1.
I tried the instruction, but it did not work on devices with Binary 4 (which is my case). The device continues to locked.
I talked to some technicians who told me that this is a block known as SEDA_LOG or DNP 0001. There are some companies that unlock remotely, but it does not have support for Binary 4.
With rom COMBINATION I can use some applications installed by adb, even my data network works perfectly.
The IMEI is normal, unlocked, and is out of the blacklist.
Other information is that the RMM State is Lock, FRP ON, OEM LOCK ON.
Also, when the lock screen appears a few times the message "Silent Log is not allowed for commercial version, please get the EM token".
Through the Samsung Account I can make the phone ring and even locate it, but it does not unlock.
Some failed attempts:
- flash a rom from another region (the device region is ZTO, I tried O2U)
- wait 7 days for the RMM State to disappear (not disappeared, continued locked)
- freezing the RLC app
- enter several PINs to try to unlock.
- login with my samsung account on rmm.samsung.com to try to unlock rmm, but I can not access.
If anyone can help me, or can guide me in what to do, I am very grateful.
Well, if you got scammed by some nasty person, strictly talking, the device in your hands was illegaly traded, as such, here in XDA no solution will be given or support offered, sorry, these cases appear often, and the moderators usually close the threads
winol said:
Well, if you got scammed by some nasty person, strictly talking, the device in your hands was illegaly traded, as such, here in XDA no solution will be given or support offered, sorry, these cases appear often, and the moderators usually close the threads
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I understand!
Anyway thank you.

Sold Device - Share PIN?

Possibly a random one...
I water damaged my first Pixel 5 and managed to sell it on eBay. Transaction was fine, money received and now in my bank account.
Prior to selling, I erased the device via Find my Phone and removed the device from my Google account - there is now zero trace of it anywhere (that I can see) within my Google.
The person who purchased the Pixel has now repaired it but says, when they turn it on, it asks for the _device_ PIN... is it safe to share it with them?
I cannot think of anything they could do with the PIN other than turn the Pixel fully on... they cannot access my Google account nor any personal data as that has been erased...
I may be overthinking.. thoughts?
Cheers!
yrreP said:
Possibly a random one...
I water damaged my first Pixel 5 and managed to sell it on eBay. Transaction was fine, money received and now in my bank account.
Prior to selling, I erased the device via Find my Phone and removed the device from my Google account - there is now zero trace of it anywhere (that I can see) within my Google.
The person who purchased the Pixel has now repaired it but says, when they turn it on, it asks for the _device_ PIN... is it safe to share it with them?
I cannot think of anything they could do with the PIN other than turn the Pixel fully on... they cannot access my Google account nor any personal data as that has been erased...
I may be overthinking.. thoughts?
Cheers!
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Tell him to boot into recovery and do a factory reset. That will also delete your password and there is no risk for you, that some data of yours is still on the phone.
User699 said:
Tell him to boot into recovery and do a factory reset. That will also delete your password and there is no risk for you, that some data of yours is still on the phone.
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All sorted, thank you for your input. Cheers.

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