Can't get Samsung Pay to work on international Note 8. - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

I bought an international model of the Note 8, model N950FXXS3CRF1, and ever since day 1, I can't get Samsung Pay to work. I was able to get it setup for my Gear S3, so it's not like I'm completely unable to use it, but this is a bit concerning for me in a way that I'll explain in a moment.
First off, when I go to the Galaxy Apps store, I'm unable to find Samsung Pay for download. Naturally, I went and just hunted down the latest APK for the app instead, though, whenever I open it, it just says it's temporarily unable to connect. Again, this doesn't affect the Gear S version of the app, it's still fully-functioning, it's only doing this for the phone version.
Now, the reason this is concerning to me is because, as far as I can tell after doing a bit of research, is that the version of the Note 8 port of Android belongs to a country that doesn't have support for Samsung Pay, thus leading me to suspect that there might be some more features I'm missing out on.
So, can anyone tell me which version of the Note 8 firmware I can install that'll allow me use of the phone version of Samsung Pay?

Where will you use your phone? You can install Mexico's FW, it will include samsung pay, no need to side load

winol said:
Where will you use your phone? You can install Mexico's FW, it will include samsung pay, no need to side load
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Hi
Im kinda new to the Note 8, the Mexico's FW is the one on this link?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ility-flashable-csc-selection-v1-0-0-t3711226
Under the Claro section

If you purchased your Note 8 from a grey importer. Chances are you receieved a Note 8 that was not intended for use in your country. Despite the fact that it is an international variant. If the device is not intended for use in your country, you won't be able to use Samsung Pay on your device.

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Gear VR Setup Wizard Issue

Got my Gear VR yesterday from T-mobile, went to set it up on my Note 5 N9200, when the setup wizard opens, I hit next, the wizard tries to connect to the servers then returns the following error:
Error Occurred.
Network Error.
I spent all day on the line with Samsung support, they kept dropping my call, and finally told me to go to a Samsung experience center at Best Buy. Does anyone know how to correct this?
I have the same problem. Only thought is that my Note 5 is from Hong Kong so may be on a different firmware than US phones - hence the network error issue. Please let us know if you find a solution!
zenenman said:
I have the same problem. Only thought is that my Note 5 is from Hong Kong so may be on a different firmware than US phones - hence the network error issue. Please let us know if you find a solution!
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Mine is also from HK, assuming you also have an N9200? I really hope Samsung did not region-lock an accessory, that would be really horrible for early adopters...
bobathecylon said:
Mine is also from HK, assuming you also have an N9200? I really hope Samsung did not region-lock an accessory, that would be really horrible for early adopters...
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Yeah, the N9200. I opened up a support ticket to Oculus on this matter too. I don't think it's necessarily region locking, I think it's just they haven't pushed out the firmware for the HK phones to enable us to download oculus home.
Trying to figure out if there is any way to sideload the oculus home application but there's not much info out there since the new gear VR just came out a few days ago. Ugh, I was so excited to use it and then this...
Update
So, I thought I would give everyone a quick update, as I noticed there are people on a number of forums experiencing this issue. I spoke with Oculus, Samsung Hong Kong, and Samsung US (listed in order of helpfulness).
I learned that in spite of having Gear VR services, set up wizard, and other related software preloaded, the SM-N9200 still needs an update to set up Gear VR. Samsung Hong Kong claimed they did not know of any plans to release Gear VR in Hong Kong, which means anybody who bought an SM-N9200 likely just wasted 99.99 USD. Samsung's US support team knew nothing and was incredibly unhelpful, I'll leave it at that.
I'm very disappointed Samsung is maintaining a 1990's US carrier mindset, assuming we do not live in a connected world, and people would not purchase phones from other regions where they frequently travel. The HK version of the SM-N9200 is the only way for one to own a Note 5 and still have access to TD-LTE networks when they travel to China, as well as Google Services when outside of China, all without rooting.
I really hope Samsung stops punishing US-based SM-N9200 users for their loyalty, and pushes the update out to us ASAP.
bobathecylon said:
So, I thought I would give everyone a quick update, as I noticed there are people on a number of forums experiencing this issue. I spoke with Oculus, Samsung Hong Kong, and Samsung US (listed in order of helpfulness).
I learned that in spite of having Gear VR services, set up wizard, and other related software preloaded, the SM-N9200 still needs an update to set up Gear VR. Samsung Hong Kong claimed they did not know of any plans to release Gear VR in Hong Kong, which means anybody who bought an SM-N9200 likely just wasted 99.99 USD. Samsung's US support team knew nothing and was incredibly unhelpful, I'll leave it at that.
I'm very disappointed Samsung is maintaining a 1990's US carrier mindset, assuming we do not live in a connected world, and people would not purchase phones from other regions where they frequently travel. The HK version of the SM-N9200 is the only way for one to own a Note 5 and still have access to TD-LTE networks when they travel to China, as well as Google Services when outside of China, all without rooting.
I really hope Samsung stops punishing US-based SM-N9200 users for their loyalty, and pushes the update out to us ASAP.
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Well, that's a huge bummer. Time to return this $99 paperweight.
Wow, what a disappointment. Forgive my ignorance but there is no way to extract what we need from someone that has a U.S. note 5 and side load it?
I have the SM-N9200 , and I've managed to get the Oculus store installed but trying to launch anything brings me right back to the set up wizard.
Lorenzo04 said:
Wow, what a disappointment. Forgive my ignorance but there is no way to extract what we need from someone that has a U.S. note 5 and side load it?
I have the SM-N9200 , and I've managed to get the Oculus store installed but trying to launch anything brings me right back to the set up wizard.
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I'm sure there is, just a matter of time. Know anybody with a US Note 5 willing to help?
bobathecylon said:
I'm sure there is, just a matter of time. Know anybody with a US Note 5 willing to help?
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I've been looking to see if it's possible to install a custom rom that supports gear vr, but no custom roms for the 9200. At this point, I'm almost leaning towards selling my 9200 and buying an unlocked 920L or 920C...
zenenman said:
I've been looking to see if it's possible to install a custom rom that supports gear vr, but no custom roms for the 9200. At this point, I'm almost leaning towards selling my 9200 and buying an unlocked 920L or 920C...
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That's fine if you don't need TD-LTE, still not optimal though. I reckon sometime after thanksgiving the files will make there way to the internet and we can stick it to Samsung.
bobathecylon said:
That's fine if you don't need TD-LTE, still not optimal though. I reckon sometime after thanksgiving the files will make there way to the internet and we can stick it to Samsung.
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Actually, 9200 is the same model they sell in mainland china so I can't imagine them leaving that entire massive market. Let's hope a solution comes up soon.
I have a n920w8 and there's not even Gear VR in my list of apps in "application manager". Need some help.
Deliximus said:
I have a n920w8 and there's not even Gear VR in my list of apps in "application manager". Need some help.
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What you can try doing is download the oculus mobile SDK from here:
https://developer.oculus.com/downloads/
Then copy the oculus cinema apk over to your phone and install it. When you run that app, it should trigger the oculus installation wizard. That's where I get stuck though, it just goes into a "Network Error" loop for me when I try to progress but maybe you'll have more luck with your model.
Noted, I'll give this a try. If that network error loop is the same one you were getting before, then I wonder if Samsung's servers are actually detecting and blocking devices based on model number? Samsung is really worse than Apple about this stuff...
bobathecylon said:
Noted, I'll give this a try. If that network error loop is the same one you were getting before, then I wonder if Samsung's servers are actually detecting and blocking devices based on model number? Samsung is really worse than Apple about this stuff...
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Most likely they are trying to download some low-level software based on the model number and there is nothing listed for our model - hence the "network error" message. Hopefully someone can share the required apk that we need for the fundamental software.
Anyone had any luck getting this working?
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Anyone had any luck getting this working?
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Nope, sadly I've been too busy to tinker around with this. Pretty much just waiting for an update or hoping somebody magically posts the correct software online...
Does anyone try to root their phone and change the build.prop file? e.g. Change the model number to G928F(Europe model )
I saw someone did these on their Note 4 and S6 which made the setup wizard run.
I haven't try it because there is no matured third party's ROMs so far.
detachedblue said:
Does anyone try to root their phone and change the build.prop file? e.g. Change the model number to G928F(Europe model )
I saw someone did these on their Note 4 and S6 which made the setup wizard run.
I haven't try it because there is no matured third party's ROMs so far.
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I'm worried that this would have some seriously bad implications because the 9200 has a different modem chipset than the european/us models. That would probably work if the hardware was very similar and just had minor regional differences.
zenenman said:
I'm worried that this would have some seriously bad implications because the 9200 has a different modem chipset than the european/us models. That would probably work if the hardware was very similar and just had minor regional differences.
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Sorry, I didn't make that clear. You don't/can't flash in a firmware from another model in another region. What you do in the build.prop file is to simply change a name. Only thing you need is to get root on your current ROM.

Does Samsung Pay work on SM-N9500? SM-N950FD?

Does the US, UK or Australia Samsung Pay work on Note 8 SM-N9500 or SM-N950FD models?
Anyone tested or confirmed this? With the S8's seems like it will work if you have the UAE model of the phone and you sideload the samsung pay app (not sure about the HK version). The note 8 UAE model is SM-N950FD which is also a global model so it might work on this if similarly one has the UAE firmware on it + sideloads Samsung Pay? SM-N9500 even work at all?
No one has used or uses or has tried to use Samsung Pay on SM-N9500 or SM-N950F/DS models anywhere? Can't be possible.
I have a SM-N9500, and Google Play claims Samsung Pay is not supported in my 'device country'. But indeed it is supported in the country where I leave and where my Google account is based (and by my bank). As I understand, SM-N9500 is a Chinese version (not my country), and yet Samsung Pay is well supported in China as well.
In any case, it looks like Samsung Pay will not work on this phone.
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On a second thought, did you try to edit build.prop to spoof your device number? The hardware platform of those models is the same as any phone supporting Samsung Pay. So I cannot think for any reason it would not work other than country support.
@younoob
did you try it? did you try different sim card and reset? did you try sideloading Samsung Pay 2.7.03 (apk from apkmirror) and Framework 2.7.51 immediately after reset?
I tried resetting my google play localization, but it did not work. So I failed to install Samsung Pay at all. My problem is, if there is ever an apk that I do not want to install from an unofficial source, that's Samsung Pay. It has direct access to credit cards...
Resetting localization will not work. Sideloading SPay is not an issue now really is it if all you want to do is confirm whether it works to start with or not. And there is nothing wrong with sideloading in general so long as you are careful with your choices.
evangelionpunk said:
Resetting localization will not work. Sideloading SPay is not an issue now really is it if all you want to do is confirm whether it works to start with or not. And there is nothing wrong with sideloading in general so long as you are careful with your choices.
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Resetting localization indeed did not work. N9500 is a Hong Kong and China version. Any exported phone should come from Hong Kong -at least mine is. I am sure that Samsung Pay works abroad as well, no matter the country. So my guess is that if one installs and runs it in Hong Kong, then it should work in other supported countries as well. Isn't it? Maybe one can spoof the location somehow, not sure how to do that without root. Any idea?
As for sideloading, of course there is nothing wrong with it. Just, for something like Samsung Pay, you really really need to trust your apk source. A malicious person may get the original apk and somehow engineer a modification (basically send all the data to a server), and your bank cards AND identity would be totally compromised. At the best of my understanding, this can be done without any need to crack the Samsung Pay security features.
younoob said:
Resetting localization indeed did not work. N9500 is a Hong Kong and China version. Any exported phone should come from Hong Kong -at least mine is. I am sure that Samsung Pay works abroad as well, no matter the country. So my guess is that if one installs and runs it in Hong Kong, then it should work in other supported countries as well. Isn't it? Maybe one can spoof the location somehow, not sure how to do that without root. Any idea?
As for sideloading, of course there is nothing wrong with it. Just, for something like Samsung Pay, you really really need to trust your apk source. A malicious person may get the original apk and somehow engineer a modification (basically send all the data to a server), and your bank cards AND identity would be totally compromised. At the best of my understanding, this can be done without any need to crack the Samsung Pay security features.
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Well according to what I read and some I asked, no. Samsung Pay may be localised via the model number and active sim card on first boot. You managed to spoof the model number?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/how-add-samsung-pay-to-sm-g950fd-dual-t3600699
You will see in above thread that the exynos model with XSG firmware is able to have the framework and samsung pay sideloaded and it works with US cards. On the Note 8's this likely means we can buy any SM-N950F/DS and do the same whereas the SM-N9500 SPay would work in HK and apparently if I read correctly HK has some more advanced SPay features... Now if only Samsung would release a 128 or 256gb mode of SM-N950F/DS already!
Actually changing the location in payments.google.com partly worked. I located myself in Hong Kong, then cleared Google Play data and rebooted the app. It took more than one day for Google to update the status, but now Samsung pay just appeared as one of my (preloaded) apps. Yet, basically only American Express will work worlwide (and Hong Kong cards). On the good side, you can successfully upload all the fidelity cards and other magnetic cards that are not related to your banks.
I did not spoof the model since the last time I checked taking root on Qualcomm note 8 looked risky and N9500 is not even mentioned in the thread. Did you get root?
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But I have a 128gb model, and where I live Samsung did not yet realise 128gb official models
younoob said:
Actually changing the location in payments.google.com partly worked. I located myself in Hong Kong, then cleared Google Play data and rebooted the app. It took more than one day for Google to update the status, but now Samsung pay just appeared as one of my (preloaded) apps. Yet, basically only American Express will work worlwide (and Hong Kong cards). On the good side, you can successfully upload all the fidelity cards and other magnetic cards that are not related to your banks.
I did not spoof the model since the last time I checked taking root on Qualcomm note 8 looked risky and N9500 is not even mentioned in the thread. Did you get root?
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But I have a 128gb model, and where I live Samsung did not yet realise 128gb official models
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Not surprised that work as you got a HK model and enabled SPay HK. See if the same is possible for US or your own country.
A root was released just few days ago for qualcomm models that will not trip knox apparently but charge shows 80% or something.
Did you root? As they do not mention N9500 in that thread
I have 9500 hk version. It had samsung pay preloaded. My location is taiwan and using taiwan sim. When i open samsung pay it had a restore previous card option. (i used samsung pay on a previous samsung phone) i restored it but had to activate the card again. Have used it here in taiwan and no problem. The only downside is promotions on the app and store membership cards are all still hong kong.
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Just flash XSA unlocked Australian firmware. Just bought a SM-N950F/DS and it has a limited version of Samsung Pay that works just like it did on my S8 950F and my S7 Edge 935F. Don't be in a hurry for updates on XSA still on August security patch but white pages works.
Panzerapple said:
Just flash XSA unlocked Australian firmware. Just bought a SM-N950F/DS and it has a limited version of Samsung Pay that works just like it did on my S8 950F and my S7 Edge 935F. Don't be in a hurry for updates on XSA still on August security patch but white pages works.
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Can't flash XSA on N9500. What do you mean by limited version of Samsung Pay on your SM-N950F/DS? What cards/banks are working on it and what aren't?
evangelionpunk said:
Can't flash XSA on N9500. What do you mean by limited version of Samsung Pay on your SM-N950F/DS? What cards/banks are working on it and what aren't?
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I am sorry I thought you were looking for answer for either model so I posted regarding my experiences with the F model.
Samsung Pay features work off of your devices CSC. When I first set up my Samsung Pay account it was on a S6 Active obviously a US Model. With that said my F model devices have Samsung Pay with MST support, Membership Cards and that is it for options that I can us in the US. So I get Australian promotions not US promotions on and no rewards or gift cards. I still get rewards points when I use my F models but I have to access them through my ATT Note 5 or see the points through my Gear App for my Gear S3. Basically a huge cluster f#ck and hopefully they will make Samsung Pay dependent on your SIM not your CSC I highly doubt it though.
I have a Citi Visa and Citi MC on my phone and Gear S3. Samsung did change things around so you can import cards which worked on my Note 8. When I moved from my S6 Active to S7 Edge F model I had to setup all the cards and they worked. So the guess off the top my head would be any card that currently supports Samsung Pay should work but it is Samsung Pay so it is a guess.
Panzerapple said:
With that said my F model devices have Samsung Pay with MST support, Membership Cards and that is it for options that I can us in the US. So I get Australian promotions not US promotions on and no rewards or gift cards.
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Have you tried the XSG firmware method that apparently is reporting success? Appears to involve flashing XSG and then sideloading framework and samsung pay app after which supposedly everything works fine.
evangelionpunk said:
Have you tried the XSG firmware method that apparently is reporting success? Appears to involve flashing XSG and then sideloading framework and samsung pay app after which supposedly everything works fine.
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Ran XSG on my S7 Edge for a while and flashed XSA. XSG you get the Ramadan calendar, no white pages and you have to screw around side loading and worry about an update breaking it. That is why I gave up on XSG it updated and broke my work around . Unless something has changed I don't recall having rewards or gift cards but that might have changed. XSA is just flash and your done Samsung pay updates with no issues. For me I need a backup device so to get all Samsung Pay features it is just as easy firing up my Note 5 to access them.
Panzerapple said:
Ran XSG on my S7 Edge for a while and flashed XSA. XSG you get the Ramadan calendar, no white pages and you have to screw around side loading and worry about an update breaking it. That is why I gave up on XSG it updated and broke my work around . Unless something has changed I don't recall having rewards or gift cards but that might have changed. XSA is just flash and your done Samsung pay updates with no issues. For me I need a backup device so to get all Samsung Pay features it is just as easy firing up my Note 5 to access them.
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On XSG you couldn't sideload white pages? What firmware are you running on your note 8?
evangelionpunk said:
On XSG you couldn't sideload white pages? What firmware are you running on your note 8?
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White pages is CSC dependent also. It's cooked into all the firmware and you can find it and try activating it through a Nova activity but it would never work. You can download Hiya apk which white pages is built off of but it doesn't integrate with the system like white pages does. I have fiddled with so many firmwares and Samsung Pay and Framework apk just got sick of experimenting.Running XSA and happy with the firmware and my Note 8. And if am wrong on anything I have said someone please correct me because I would like to know.
I can use Samsung Pay on my non-rooted SM-N950F/DS on AT&T as well as GoogleFi.

Importing a Snapdragon Model from U.S.

After comprehending the HUGE differences between the performance of the Exynos and Snapdragon model (thanks to Anandtech and Gary Explains YouTube), I am thinking of buying the Snapdragon model from U.S. and importing it to India. Wanted to know wether or not is it worth it, the hassles of doing so, and is there a better option than Amazon for it ?
The_Quantum_Guy said:
After comprehending the HUGE differences between the performance of the Exynos and Snapdragon model (thanks to Anandtech and Gary Explains YouTube), I am thinking of buying the Snapdragon model from U.S. and importing it to India. Wanted to know wether or not is it worth it, the hassles of doing so, and is there a better option than Amazon for it ?
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I would strongly advise not going down this route. I did the exact same thing with my previous S8. What Samsung don't tell you is that they include a region lock on their devices. In order to remove the lock, you need to use 5 minutes of call time in that particular country to unlock it. I purchased my phone in the US and initially and used the phone to get the unlock, without any knowledge. The issues arose when I brought it back to the UK and flashed my own firmware. In this case, a beta firmware update. By doing my own flash, it then reset the lock removing access to the galaxy app store, samsung pay and a number of other apps.
You can find an example of this by simply googling samsung region lock.
If it's simply a performance issue, I would stick with the Exynos processor. My note 9 has had no issues in performance whatsoever and would strongly recommend the phone.
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I would strongly advise not going down this route. I did the exact same thing with my previous S8. What Samsung don't tell you is that they include a region lock on their devices. In order to remove the lock, you need to use 5 minutes of call time in that particular country to unlock it. I purchased my phone in the US and initially and used the phone to get the unlock, without any knowledge. The issues arose when I brought it back to the UK and flashed my own firmware. In this case, a beta firmware update. By doing my own flash, it then reset the lock removing access to the galaxy app store, samsung pay and a number of other apps.
You can find an example of this by simply googling samsung region lock.
If it's simply a performance issue, I would stick with the Exynos processor. My note 9 has had no issues in performance whatsoever and would strongly recommend the phone.
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Thank You AFewLads for bringing this issue to the fore and potentially saving me a lot of money !!! Btw, just for my curiosity (and probably a few others), what did you do with your S8 then ?

Galaxy note 9 korean variant in Europe

Hello,
I am thinking about buying a Galaxy Note 9 korean variant, i found a good deal and the phone is brand new.
Are there any limitation if i use the device in Europe? Will I recieve software updates regularly or am I gonna be stuck with the version that comes with it?
StarryKnight said:
Hello,
I am thinking about buying a Galaxy Note 9 korean variant, i found a good deal and the phone is brand new.
Are there any limitation if i use the device in Europe? Will I recieve software updates regularly or am I gonna be stuck with the version that comes with it?
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if the device gets region unlocked( usually a 5 min call is made to lift that before being sent) beforehand then it should works just as well as an F model. for receiving updates that i dont know. I've been manually updating mine evry so often. there are much less frequent firmware updates for the Korean N devices aswell.
i manually download the new firmwares with samfirm 0.3.6 and apply them via odin 3.13.3
been doing this since the note 8.
You should be able to use it in the EU without any issues as any Samsung device purchased in Korea is naturally sold unlocked.

Is it possible to install DIFFERENT model's update on my phone

Hi guys, I bought a galaxy s10 LTE model in South Korea (SM-G973N) and realized I can not use Samsung Pay with my phone because I live in Canada and the phone would only take Korean credit cards due to different korean/international whatever credit card standard (((
I've been a iphone user for years so apple pay always worked. It sucks samsung pay wont work on my phone but we have android OS which means yall super duper cool dudes can fix stuffs haha.
So I am seeking for help if there is any way to use international Samsung pay on South Korean Galaxy S10 device (SM-G973N)
If there is play explain it to me nice and slowly cause im noob. Thank you guys!!! )
As long as it is the same model as in you can NOT install an exynos software onto qualcomm hardware
It is already exynos hardware and also software as well.
I just wanna use International Samsung Pay App instead of Korean Samsung Pay on my phone :/
on my note 9 which was a korean variant but has exynos too, I flashed roms based on F/DS exynos and it worked perfectly along w magisk. not sure on the s10 tho.
Pododo123 said:
Hi guys, I bought a galaxy s10 LTE model in South Korea (SM-G973N) and realized I can not use Samsung Pay with my phone because I live in Canada and the phone would only take Korean credit cards due to different korean/international whatever credit card standard (((
I've been a iphone user for years so apple pay always worked. It sucks samsung pay wont work on my phone but we have android OS which means yall super duper cool dudes can fix stuffs haha.
So I am seeking for help if there is any way to use international Samsung pay on South Korean Galaxy S10 device (SM-G973N)
If there is play explain it to me nice and slowly cause im noob. Thank you guys!!! )
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yes you can, but as said above stick with exynos based firmware. youre also going to likely need the patched version of Odin to flash the unbranded firmware so the 255 errors wont cause Odin to fail
Same problem here, for me its the USA s10 cannot use Samsung pay in Vietnam

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