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Help needed - iPhone 6 Plus v OnePlus 3T

Hi all,
Im new to the forums and I'm after some serious information on the OnePlus 3 and Android in general.
I currently have a iPhone 6 Plus (128GB) and (in theory) could have upgraded to the iPhone 7/Plus as I buy my phones every two years outright.
I've been toying with the idea of getting the OnePlus 3T and passing my iPhone to the Mrs as she has an iPhone 5 (16GB). I really don't fancy forking out £819 to get the equivalent of my current iPhone when I could get a OP3T for £439 (128GB).
My options are keep my iPhone or get the OP3T and would like your opinion.
I'm sure someone on here could provide me with an idea of what Android is like as I've never used it before and what it's like switching from iOS.
I must admit that I'm more invested with Google than Apple. I do have an iPad and MacBook but I don't use iCloud and I'm not too bothered about iMessage and FaceTime as Whatsapp is what I tend to use and I use Google for most services (Gmail, Drive, Contacts, Calendars, Maps and Photos).
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Andy

For what you described imho oneplus 3t and iphone7 are overkill...
If you want a good stock-ish android experience you can go for op3t. It is not one of those phones where if you are not satisfied somebody will tell you "of course, as an android newbie you should have gone for smartphone xy".
For some reason that I can not grasp with my stupid little mind some people who switched from iOS to Android just don't like the UI and find it too complicated. While I don't understand how a simple menu can be complicated at all, I honestly know that feeling, since whenever I have to use a Macbook I have an irresistable urge to throw it against a wall and then to burn the house down.
What I am saying is, noone can tell you if you will like it.

i went from iphone 6s+ > nexus 6p > op3t

I just switched over from a 7plus. Its not difficult at all to get used to, you get all the same or almost all the same apps as in iOS. The layout for the menus is easy to get used to as well.
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Well I have checked my iPhone and have used 101GB with 19GB remaining so I would like to a phone with 128GB ideally.
minhajmsd said:
I just switched over from a 7plus. Its not difficult at all to get used to, you get all the same or almost all the same apps as in iOS. The layout for the menus is easy to get used to as well.
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Why did you switch from a 7 Plus to the OP3T?
I'm intrigued to know.

Just suggestion.. U can try very low entry Android phone or other older stock Android phone like nexus series to taste the pure stock Android experience before u spend £430 .
One of my friend did that way. It helped. Now he is considering to buy OP3T

i have both phones (7+ and 3T), and considering your current status where you use more google services than apple, i think you will be just fine with 3T as long as you are okay to learn the way android do things. in my opinion 3T has better battery life, and could do much more if you want to tinker a little bit. However 7+ also has it's strong points, like front facing speaker, and camera. for amateur like me that just need a good camera at all kind of condition to take pictures of my kids, 7+ just did the job in auto mode.

I've never owned an iProduct, so you can take my words with a grain of salt. But, my experience so far with the 1+3T is all positive. If you do switch, just be sure to give yourself some time and patience to adjust. Honestly, if you stick around here, maybe you'll come to appreciate Android as much as we do.

amk515 said:
Well I have checked my iPhone and have used 101GB with 19GB remaining so I would like to a phone with 128GB ideally.
Why did you switch from a 7 Plus to the OP3T?
I'm intrigued to know.
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I don't really have a concrete reason for switching.. Just had an itch to get this phone and once the 128gb one was available for ordering I just ordered it. After using this phone I am completely in love with it, the only thing I miss from the iPhone is iMessage.
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I went to OP3T after 2 years with iphone 6 and 6s, I don't miss anything about those two phone because I mostly use google app and youtube. And OP3T gave me far better battery life than ip6 and ip6s, but in your case it's a little different as you have the plus. I was a diehard android user before, so it's easy for me to make decision. Now, Huawei p10 is in my radar except this OP3T hasn't aged yet

I think what is stopping me is that I have always had iPhone's from the 3G and I'm unsure of using another OS.
Also, I noticed on the SGS7 that my friend has that some games were laggy in comparison to my iPhone and that he said it's because of Touchwiz?
I did have a mess around briefly with his SGS7 but not long enough to draw a conclusion about Android as a whole but I didn't really care for that phone.

amk515 said:
I think what is stopping me is that I have always had iPhone's from the 3G and I'm unsure of using another OS.
Also, I noticed on the SGS7 that my friend has that some games were laggy in comparison to my iPhone and that he said it's because of Touchwiz?
I did have a mess around briefly with his SGS7 but not long enough to draw a conclusion about Android as a whole but I didn't really care for that phone.
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It will be better if u play around op3t before you buy, and see if games lag or something's you use work without lag or what.
I love this device, but hate iOS so that would be one sided thing.
So some of your friends might have one plus, you should get hands on one for a few hours.
Since everyone has different uses pattern and preference, at last everything comes to what you like or what you don't.
Don't know where you are from, but if u r from Delhi and want to get hands on, pm me.

Navi44 said:
It will be better if u play around op3t before you buy, and see if games lag or something's you use work without lag or what.
I love this device, but hate iOS so that would be one sided thing.
So some of your friends might have one plus, you should get hands on one for a few hours.
Since everyone has different uses pattern and preference, at last everything comes to what you like or what you don't.
Don't know where you are from, but if u r from Delhi and want to get hands on, pm me.
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I'm from the UK and OnePlus is somewhat unknown to a lot of people (well, to most of my friends anyway). A lot of my friends have iPhone's too.
Getting hold of a OP3T is quite hard, I know they have them in O2 shops here but they aren't connected to the internet and I wouldn't be able to use it like it was my own.

amk515 said:
I'm from the UK and OnePlus is somewhat unknown to a lot of people (well, to most of my friends anyway). A lot of my friends have iPhone's too.
Getting hold of a OP3T is quite hard, I know they have them in O2 shops here but they aren't connected to the internet and I wouldn't be able to use it like it was my own.
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Well you can find a lot of guys from UK here in the forum's with op3t.
Maybe now you have mentioned somebody might come to your rescue
And I heard in EU all purchases can be returned under certain amount of time.
Purchase one, use it, if don't like them return it.
And purchase through card, cause PayPal don't have buyer protection.

Navi44 said:
Well you can find a lot of guys from UK here in the forum's with op3t.
Maybe now you have mentioned somebody might come to your rescue
And I heard in EU all purchases can be returned under certain amount of time.
Purchase one, use it, if don't like them return it.
And purchase through card, cause PayPal don't have buyer protection.
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I suppose that the returns is true.
Is there a particular reason you prefer Android over iOS?
I'm intrigued to find out your reasons as I have never used Android for longer than 10 minutes.

amk515 said:
I suppose that the returns is true.
Is there a particular reason you prefer Android over iOS?
I'm intrigued to find out your reasons as I have never used Android for longer than 10 minutes.
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Mostly I can modify it to my likes.
Get bored of same UI for long.
That's one reason.
Other is for music, I keep it as I like with viper and other audio mods.
And moreover when I use iOS it feels like I lack many options android provides.
Like network settings, hotspots, downloading music, and getting to do backups locally, not on cloud or PC.

masri1987 said:
i went from iphone 6s+ > nexus 6p > op3t
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Same here!!! I love it.... I still have my iPhone 6s+ as a backup if I ever needed to get the OP 3t repaired. But I won't be going back to iOS even though the UI may look a little more pretty as some people would say

h3rnand3zz said:
Same here!!! I love it.... I still have my iPhone 6s+ as a backup if I ever needed to get the OP 3t repaired. But I won't be going back to iOS even though the UI may look a little more pretty as some people would say
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Is there any particular reason?
As I say, I have no real experience with Android.

h3rnand3zz said:
Same here!!! I love it.... I still have my iPhone 6s+ as a backup if I ever needed to get the OP 3t repaired. But I won't be going back to iOS even though the UI may look a little more pretty as some people would say
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Is there any particular reason?
As I say, I have no real experience with Android.
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well to be honest i went 6p to the 6s+because i was in egypt with my lil brother who is a iphone freak for 2 months he taunted me, so i gave it a try, and after 6 months i wanted to destroy all things apple.
Apple customer service caters to the n00b customer base that they serve. I would literally pose questions to them that they had no answers to. on iOS you can't even arrange photos by date taken or large photos to small photos . once photos are out of order in ur albums there's no way to fix them even if the exif data is on point. bluetooth sucked on ios, it would take 2 mintues for the bluetooth to turn on, and hand offs from music to phone calls was horrendous up to 30 seconds.
It's an inferior product imo, it's made for people who aren't technically inclined, that's not really to say they are stupid but there's a reason the "____ for dummies" book line made millions

The reason I have always had an iPhone was because it always did what I wanted it to do.
People I know who have had Android in the past moved to iOS because they were fed up of their phones breaking for one reason or another.
Here, I can literally take my iPhone a few hundred yards from work into an Apple Store to be fixed if needed which is another bonus.
I take it that has all changed?
Is there anything major that Android can do that iOS can't?

Oneplus 5 a potential collectors item in the future?

Hi All,
After learning that Oneplus were making the decision to announce and then launcher the (ok it's a nice phone) Oneplus 5T after just 5 months? I've never heard of that happen to a flagship which wasn't a complete failure and had as much going for it as the 5 does?
The Oneplus has pretty much disappeared from all locations where it was available, which means there can't be that many new devices out in the wild anymore if any at all, do you think if kept in decent condition that it could be something of a collectors item in the months / years to come? Maybe going a bit far with the collectors item thing but you know what i mean, like a niche piece of kit that you can't get hold of no more.
Just a thought, because unless people had the money or an upgrade in that time frame, it just wasn't going to be available and now it's gone?

Compared to the 3 and 3T the 5 and 5T are in a unique situation it's a slightly different form factor the finger print is on the front and it retains the capacitive non on screen buttons batterly life is every so slightly better than the 5T.
Everything else is the same so true I can definitely see a few anti 2:1 bezeless phone users prefer the one plus 5 form factor. Although i probably wouldn't go as far as to call it a collector's item. The main blemish on the OnePlus 5 is the jelly phone screen thing aside from that i can see a manufacturer offer both models and both selling reasonably well. With jelly phone screen i think it might skew to the newer phone, it doesn't bother me personally but I know there are people that see the affect all the time and that could get irritating. I on the other hand either don't see it or just got used to it.

dladz said:
Hi All,
After learning that Oneplus were making the decision to announce and then launcher the (ok it's a nice phone) Oneplus 5T after just 5 months? I've never heard of that happen to a flagship which wasn't a complete failure and had as much going for it as the 5 does?
The Oneplus has pretty much disappeared from all locations where it was available, which means there can't be that many new devices out in the wild anymore if any at all, do you think if kept in decent condition that it could be something of a collectors item in the months / years to come? Maybe going a bit far with the collectors item thing but you know what i mean, like a niche piece of kit that you can't get hold of no more.
Just a thought, because unless people had the money or an upgrade in that time frame, it just wasn't going to be available and now it's gone?
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Cellphones dont work like that. Even the legendary device of the HD2 only goes down in price.Phones are not something to collect as unlike others things they are already outdated by the time we get our hands on them.

zelendel said:
Cellphones dont work like that. Even the legendary device of the HD2 only goes down in price.Phones are not something to collect as unlike others things they are already outdated by the time we get our hands on them.
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yea I know what you mean but have you ever heard of a phone off this caliber only bring readily available for 5 months?

dladz said:
yea I know what you mean but have you ever heard of a phone off this caliber only bring readily available for 5 months?
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They did the same thing with the 3 and the 3t. If any were gonna be collectable it will be the stars wars version or the other limited versions of the device and even then the price will still go down.
As for caliber of device. It is still a mid range device really. Nothing too special.

vortex-5 said:
Compared to the 3 and 3T the 5 and 5T are in a unique situation it's a slightly different form factor the finger print is on the front and it retains the capacitive non on screen buttons batterly life is every so slightly better than the 5T.
Everything else is the same so true I can definitely see a few anti 2:1 bezeless phone users prefer the one plus 5 form factor. Although i probably wouldn't go as far as to call it a collector's item. The main blemish on the OnePlus 5 is the jelly phone screen thing aside from that i can see a manufacturer offer both models and both selling reasonably well. With jelly phone screen i think it might skew to the newer phone, it doesn't bother me personally but I know there are people that see the affect all the time and that could get irritating. I on the other hand either don't see it or just got used to it.
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yea don't see the jelly or what I do see didn't bother me..
Lol collectors item yea I know a bit much I did write that btw.
Point I'm making is, the release time was so small, now it's not being made no more, it's not even close to a year.
Any idea how many units were actually made?
A limited edition Zippo only has 250,000 made sometimes less, no how many they sold / made but it's definitely a niche phone now.

I would agree that cellphones don't work like that. When a new model is out, the previous one takes the "second hand status", in which people will be interested in, but only at a super low budget.
Then you have to keep in mind that OnePlus is an "unknown" brand. See all the reviews on specialist websites, all say it's so great but look around you, it's Samsung and Apple, cause people don't read that.
And if we think that OP phones are special for developpement community, also take a look at how people around us don't even change the default wallpaper that their phone had when they turned it on first time
To get back on subject, that's why it's actually terrible that OP releases a flagship so fast, it just kills the value of what we do have in a flash. And there are already rumours of the OP6 coming in march (and any rumour about One Plus phones is nearly always true).
Nice for those * silly * enough to go from 5 to 5T

zelendel said:
They did the same thing with the 3 and the 3t. If any were gonna be collectable it will be the stars wars version or the other limited versions of the device and even then the price will still go down.
As for caliber of device. It is still a mid range device really. Nothing too special.
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Mid range??
Maybe we base out caliber of device on something completely different, I personally go by performance and stamina, along with a few other things.
The Oneplus is not mid range, the Snapdragon 600 series devices are mid range, the Oneplus is 100% high tier, price no but performance and hardware yes.

kipue said:
I would agree that cellphones don't work like that. When a new model is out, the previous one takes the "second hand status", in which people will be interested in, but only at a super low budget.
Then you have to keep in mind that OnePlus is an "unknown" brand. See all the reviews on specialist websites, all say it's so great but look around you, it's Samsung and Apple, cause people don't read that.
And if we think that OP phones are special for developpement community, also take a look at how people around us don't even change the default wallpaper that their phone had when they turned it on first time
To get back on subject, that's why it's actually terrible that OP releases a flagship so fast, it just kills the value of what we do have in a flash. And there are already rumours of the OP6 coming in march (and any rumour about One Plus phones is nearly always true).
Nice for those * silly * enough to go from 5 to 5T
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I agree, I'll not be getting the 6, it's HTC for me all day long from now on, unless something groundbreaking comes out, couldn't go for Sammy again, they're dead to me, their OS is just nasty now, doesn't even feel like android no more.
I know what you mean with their release timing, but I think they've overshot it here surely, 5 months? That's insane, and for a device which is over the mid range bracket at £507 with shipping? That's not cheap to only be told that in 5 months it can't be bought no more?
I dunno, I had a thought and thought I'd put it out there, collectors item no ok that was a bit far but definitely a niche product (popularity aside)

dladz said:
I agree, I'll not be getting the 6, it's HTC for me all day long .....................
I dunno, I had a thought and thought I'd put it out there, collectors item no ok that was a bit far but definitely a niche product (popularity aside)
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Yeah.
And to add to those thoughts, one might buy let's say a Samsung Note 8. It cost twice the price of the OP 5T, but you get the top of your brand of choice for a year. If you try to do that with One Plus phones, that will cost you more than that over the same period.
And your Samsung will probably still have a great resell value...
I like OP phones, but to me, they are really doing a terrible thing to their fans here.
Oh well, let's see how it goes

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Mid range??
Maybe we base out caliber of device on something completely different, I personally go by performance and stamina, along with a few other things.
The Oneplus is not mid range, the Snapdragon 600 series devices are mid range, the Oneplus is 100% high tier, price no but performance and hardware yes.
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Yes mid range. Price means nothing where I am. It's all about the hardware for me a day one plus is always missing g a few things to put them in the top tier.

zelendel said:
Yes mid range. Price means nothing where I am. It's all about the hardware for me a day one plus is always missing g a few things to put them in the top tier.
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lol ok so HTC who always make a flag ship device which is always has been comparable in price to Samsung ( I'm assuming that's what you're comparing it to) HTC usually misses a few features out, LG again top tier, again missing things not in others, can't see your point mate.
I know what you're getting at but I disagree wholeheartedly.
The oneplus is anything but a mid range device and in many ways it's superior to flagships like the S8
more ram
more internal memory
faster CPU and better utilisation of said chipset, better use of battery and stamina than the S8 /S8+
dual cameras
fastest charging on the market
Where is the oneplus falling short?
SD slot? water proofing ? stereo speakers ? None of those features makes a high end device.
All of the other OEMs are missing the same things, not to mention that Oneplus listens a lot more than the other OEMs.
edit: anyway, this is moving off topic so I'm leaving this here, plus the topic probably want received how I intended it

Im not a massive fan of bezelless phones because there is less bezel to put your hands on .I also hate software buttons

Pro4TLZZ said:
Im not a massive fan of bezelless phones because there is less bezel to put your hands on .I also hate software buttons
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So much this.
I hope this trend goes way when I need to buy a new phone a few years.

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Im not a massive fan of bezelless phones because there is less bezel to put your hands on .I also hate software buttons
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completely agree with both points

tWoBrO said:
So much this.
I hope this trend goes way when I need to buy a new phone a few years.
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it won't but the screen will evolve, the back of the phone had always been by majority unutilised, either way you can be sure that it'll never stay the same, things evolve or people get bored and even if we didn't, companies believe in evolving and ever changing so it'll happen in some way shape or form, hopefully for the better and not just for change.

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The Oneplus has pretty much disappeared from all locations where it was available, which means there can't be that many new devices out in the wild anymore if any at all, do you think if kept in decent condition that it could be something of a collectors item in the months / years to come? Maybe going a bit far with the collectors item thing but you know what i mean, like a niche piece of kit that you can't get hold of no more.
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wait.. what? :silly:
Collector's item? mate, you can't be serious. OnePlus 5 is a really nice phone but calling it a collector's item is seriously pushing it.

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This phone is an insult to consumers

Oneplus 7T at $599, iPhone 11 at $699 and google gives us a $799 phone with a tiny battery and stingy specs. What were they thinking?
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barondebxl said:
Oneplus 7T at $599, iPhone 11 at $699 and google gives us a $799 phone with a tiny battery and stingy specs. What were they thinking?
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I looked at the iPhone 11 a day or so ago and the only one that compared to the P4 is the iPhone 11 Pro which costs $999 not $699. The regular iPhone 11 is big and ugly whereas the Pro version looks great. But that's $200 more than the P4 with very similar specs camera wise, size and performance. I presume that since Apple doesn't allow much modification of the OS or features that 4GB ram will be enough since they tend to optimize pretty well. I say wait a bit before trashing either device or saying one is better than the other. It just came out yesterday by golly.

This is neither a question nor an answer. Also, can we wait a bit before trashing a new device that was just announced? There aren't even any in-depth reviews in the wild.
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What.

I think that people cried for many years asking for more RAM in the Pixels.
Now we have extra 2GB of RAM, extra 30Hz display and a 7nm SoC for 90€-100€ less than the Pixel 3. (Pixel 3 was 860€ last week, Pixel 4 is 760€ this week, in Spain Google store).
(I'm not talking about the other features because I just consider they are optional or just even with what we had).
Considering that. the phone is amazing and a decent upgrade for my Pixel 2.
What I can't be happy about is the battery life. I think battery life in Android has been always a ****. I have great battery life (still much worse than 23 months ago) on my Pixel 2 at home. But in another country/city (and specially in an hotel I'm staying) where I work, battery life is much worse. I still can't figure out what's the reason. Signal doesn't seem different. And my phone is telling me this useless info with a system app with no-name which is probably the guilty:
https://imgur.com/a/ySRAtyP
So personally I'm not excited about the Pixel 4, because the Google the Pixel 2 is not delivering a full day of battery where I'm living Monday to Thursday (Zürich), and at home I get more than a day (sometimes I can get 36 hours with at least 3 SoT at home city), but at "work" city I get half of a day no matter if I use the phone or not. It gets crazy.
And I know the Pixel 4 will be fine for 12 months, but will become a problem after that, just like happened with my Pixel 2.
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thesebastian said:
I think that people cried for many years asking for more RAM in the Pixels.
Now we have extra 2GB of RAM, extra 30Hz display and a 7nm SoC for 90€-100€ less than the Pixel 3. (Pixel 3 was 860€ last week, Pixel 4 is 760€ this week, in Spain Google store).
(I'm not talking about the other features because I just consider they are optional or just even with what we had).
Considering that. the phone is amazing and a decent upgrade for my Pixel 2.
What I can't be happy about is the battery life. I think battery life in Android has been always a ****. I have great battery life (still much worse than 23 months ago) on my Pixel 2 at home. But in another country/city (and specially in an hotel I'm staying) where I work, battery life is much worse. I still can't figure out what's the reason. Signal doesn't seem different. And my phone is telling me this useless info with a system app with no-name which is probably the guilty:
So personally I'm not excited about the Pixel 4, because the Google the Pixel 2 is not delivering a full day of battery where I'm living Monday to Thursday (Zürich), and at home I get more than a day (sometimes I can get 36 hours with at least 3 SoT at home city), but at "work" city I get half of a day no matter if I use the phone or not. It gets crazy.
And I know the Pixel 4 will be fine for 12 months, but will become a problem after that, just like happened with my Pixel 2.
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You know there will be those that now say.. only 6GB? We need 8! lol As for battery in various locations I have found the same and I'm not sure why either. I can be on my wifi or even on LTE in my home town but when I spend some time in NYC the battery drops like crazy. One of these days I'll do a dump and send it off to Better BS to analyze. But for now I just plug it in for a few minutes somewhere when I can get to my USB C connector. It's rare that over a 15 or 16 hour period I'd lose full battery.
But you say that your new P4 will last a year with acceptable battery. Why is that a problem if you're getting a P5 in October of 2020? You are right?

bobby janow said:
You know there will be those that now say.. only 6GB? We need 8! lol As for battery in various locations I have found the same and I'm not sure why either. I can be on my wifi or even on LTE in my home town but when I spend some time in NYC the battery drops like crazy. One of these days I'll do a dump and send it off to Better BS to analyze. But for now I just plug it in for a few minutes somewhere when I can get to my USB C connector. It's rare that over a 15 or 16 hour period I'd lose full battery.
But you say that your new P4 will last a year with acceptable battery. Why is that a problem if you're getting a P5 in October of 2020? You are right?
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Well, the only problem with that. Is that I like to buy things that last. Example: My Pixel 2 will go for my lady... She's a proud user of a Nexus 5X, so this will be a hell of an upgrade. The Nexus 5X will go to my mother, which barely uses a phone.
So this is why I care about Pixels lasting as much as possible.
(I'll probably replace Pixel 2 battery life with a new one next year, giving up the water resistance).
Also I'm not sure I'll get the 5.. with the new pricing, maybe yes. If it goes back to the old pricing. I'll stick with the Pixel 4, at least 2 years.
I'm sure we put a Custom ROM in any Pixel, without many "AI" stuff etc, and we will probably get great battery life.
Last time I tried this....was a month ago (to install a Kernel with wireguard support, because I wanted to try VPN when travelling) but then google pay stopped working....And I don't have time for Magisk, root and all that (or maybe I don't like putting to many hacks on it). So that was the only day I did 2 factory resets in a day LOL spent the entire afternoon / evening.
As for battery, the main issue is that I'm staying in a hotel where I don't know wtf is going on but my battery drains like crazy...Today I'm trying Airplane mode + WiFi. (Yesterday I had to disable/clear/forcestop Chrome because something was leeching battery, even if it was disabled, probably SystemWebView).
Next week I'll try completely airplane mode.

barondebxl said:
Oneplus 7T at $599, iPhone 11 at $699 and google gives us a $799 phone with a tiny battery and stingy specs. What were they thinking?
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Soooo get one of those devices? Why complain about one you haven't even tried because of what you perceive based on specs?

bobby janow said:
I looked at the iPhone 11 a day or so ago and the only one that compared to the P4 is the iPhone 11 Pro which costs $999 not $699. The regular iPhone 11 is big and ugly whereas the Pro version looks great. But that's $200 more than the P4 with very similar specs camera wise, size and performance. I presume that since Apple doesn't allow much modification of the OS or features that 4GB ram will be enough since they tend to optimize pretty well. I say wait a bit before trashing either device or saying one is better than the other. It just came out yesterday by golly.
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Ugly to whom? The iPhone XR outsold the iPhone XS and XS max and both those phones look like the 11 pro/pro max from the front. The XR looks just like the 11 from the front and will outsold the others again so it’s seems like ppl don’t find it that ugly.
The 11 pro being $200 more than the pixel 4 is 1000% a better buy than the pixel 4. Battery life is fantastic, so are the cameras and they are more versatile. The pixel 4 is a terrible buy.
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Alcolawl said:
This is neither a question nor an answer. Also, can we wait a bit before trashing a new device that was just announced? There aren't even any in-depth reviews in the wild.
Also:
What.
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Do you need to wait for a device to be out to scrutinize it? Since when? Usually iPhone users are the gullible ones to spend lots of money on a device that doesn’t offer equal value. You’re ok spending $800 plus tax on a device that has a tiny battery and is clearly inferior to other offerings at the same price or cheaper?
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l7777 said:
Soooo get one of those devices? Why complain about one you haven't even tried because of what you perceive based on specs?
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Uhhh..... yeah. That is a dumb question I’m sorry to say that. Ok let me give you an example so you can realize how dumb that is. Let’s say google announces a pixel 4 with a 2200 mah battery, a snapdragon 845 and a single camera for $999. You mean to tell me I’d have to wait to have the device in hand in order to have an opinion about it? Do you realize how stupid that sounds? Since when cant we have an opinion based on specs?
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Ok this thread is a waste of valuable energy. The op is trolling us. Let's not give it oxygen. Outta here for good. Do the same.

barondebxl said:
Uhhh..... yeah. That is a dumb question I’m sorry to say that. Ok let me give you an example so you can realize how dumb that is. Let’s say google announces a pixel 4 with a 2200 mah battery, a snapdragon 845 and a single camera for $999. You mean to tell me I’d have to wait to have the device in hand in order to have an opinion about it? Do you realize how stupid that sounds? Since when cant we have an opinion based on specs?
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I think you missed the point. Why are you complaining about the device instead of simply choosing one of the other options?

l7777 said:
I think you missed the point. Why are you complaining about the device instead of simply choosing one of the other options?
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I didn’t miss the point. HAs it occurred to you that maybe I was anticipating the pixel 4 and was very disappointed after the announcement? Which is why I’m sharing my thoughts here. Even if I wasn’t, last I check I’m entitled to express my opinion.
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barondebxl said:
Oneplus 7T at $599, iPhone 11 at $699 and google gives us a $799 phone with a tiny battery and stingy specs. What were they thinking?
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Great news for you then, so I hope you enjoy your Oneplus or iPhone and it brings you joy. Bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out

That's the same thread as many others, with the same complaint as many others.
If you don't like don't buy it.
And please, close the thread

barondebxl said:
Thank you but I’m still going strong. I love how sensitive you guys are, worst than iPhone fanboys [emoji16]
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Sensitive fanboy? Says the iPhone user on an Android site slagging an Android phone off like a very sensitive fanboy.
Sorry but you posted your negative view of the pixel phone in the Help section. How was that a request for help or an answer to someones need for help. In what way was your post productive to the help section? Honestly, I think they should charge you storage fees for keeping this thread on here. What was the point of your post?

lywyn said:
Sensitive fanboy? Says the iPhone user on an Android site slagging an Android phone off like a very sensitive fanboy.
Sorry but you posted your negative view of the pixel phone in the Help section. How was that a request for help or an answer to someones need for help. In what way was your post productive to the help section? Honestly, I think they should charge you storage fees for keeping this thread on here. What was the point of your post?
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You should request the mods to charge me a storage fee. Lmao
How is it not productive? This is putting things in perspective. The thread goes left when you sensitive clowns feel some type of way because the phone isn’t praised to your liking. Had I opened this thread and said the pixel 4 will be amazing you wouldn’t have any issues with it of course. But because I criticize it because it is absolutely warranted, you guys getinyour feelings because you take it as a personal attack. It isn’t, it’s me criticizing the phone for the asking price because it’s absolutely ridiculous. It’s not trolling but you guys translate it as trolling because again, I’m not praising what you wanna buy. Well tough sh*t, I don’t praise products that I feel are a total robbery. If you wanna be objective and give your opinion on why you think $800 for that 2800 mah battery and all the sensors is worth it then by all means let’s discuss it. If you gonna get in your feelings then too bad for you.
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This thread has been moved to the Pixel 4 General subforum, as it's a discussion. The Help/Q&A subforum isn't the right place for this, since you're not looking for help.
Also, some light thread cleaning; a few posts have been deleted. I'm allowing the thread for now, because as said, everyone can have an opinion. However, XDA Forum Rules exist for a reason. Knock off the flaming/disrespect and language. Keep it civil and clean; you can all express opinions without the need for degrading others. That goes for everyone.

barondebxl said:
You should request the mods to charge me a storage fee. Lmao
How is it not productive? This is putting things in perspective. The thread goes left when you sensitive clowns feel some type of way because the phone isn’t praised to your liking. Had I opened this thread and said the pixel 4 will be amazing you wouldn’t have any issues with it of course. But because I criticize it because it is absolutely warranted, you guys getinyour feelings because you take it as a personal attack. It isn’t, it’s me criticizing the phone for the asking price because it’s absolutely ridiculous. It’s not trolling but you guys translate it as trolling because again, I’m not praising what you wanna buy. Well tough sh*t, I don’t praise products that I feel are a total robbery. If you wanna be objective and give your opinion on why you think $800 for that 2800 mah battery and all the sensors is worth it then by all means let’s discuss it. If you gonna get in your feelings then too bad for you.
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Productive, like going to Apple store to complain they don't sell Android phones productive? In that case way productive!
As for sensitive clowns, sorry but you seem very sensitive to the fact we will not validate your delicate ego and agree that Google should immediately listen to your evaluation and action on it immediately. I'm going to get the phone but I have not created a thread on here telling everyone I love the phone and everyone must buy it. And I have not posted a thread on Apple/iPhone site saying why I hate the iPhone and that's why I'm not getting it. You just created a thread to complain about a product because it didn't suit your needs. Funny first reply was to paraphrase, "your choice, goodbye" and here we are. You seem to be taking it very personal that we don't agree with you and respond as if being attacked, as shown by the rebuff "Well tough sh*t, I don’t praise products that I feel are a total robbery".
Let's wind this up. I don't take it personally that you don't like the phone. I've ordered it, and your views had no influence on that decision. I have not defended the phone, I have merely raised the point that your post has no value to the help section for the rest of the members. As for the attempt to validate the reason for starting the thread, I think there is more to the phone than battery and sensors for $800. I didn't buy it for the battery, and my Pixel 2 lasts all day for me so it won't be a problem. I do sometimes have to use the phone screen when driving so the motion sense tech will be a great benefit there like the new cars have the touchless systems. Is it productive to go to a website and review a product you've never used?
Anyway so that I can convey to you how much I am not offended or upset or feel under attack, I sign off here and will leave the thread to the people who are upset. I hope you find the phone you want, and if you still need to vent about how much you hate this phone you can continue your diatribe here in hopes someone gives a f__k and is happy to stroke your ego.
I hope you find the right phone for you. Goodbye, I won't let the door hit me on the way out.

lywyn said:
Productive, like going to Apple store to complain they don't sell Android phones productive? In that case way productive!
As for sensitive clowns, sorry but you seem very sensitive to the fact we will not validate your delicate ego and agree that Google should immediately listen to your evaluation and action on it immediately. I'm going to get the phone but I have not created a thread on here telling everyone I love the phone and everyone must buy it. And I have not posted a thread on Apple/iPhone site saying why I hate the iPhone and that's why I'm not getting it. You just created a thread to complain about a product because it didn't suit your needs. Funny first reply was to paraphrase, "your choice, goodbye" and here we are. You seem to be taking it very personal that we don't agree with you and respond as if being attacked, as shown by the rebuff "Well tough sh*t, I don’t praise products that I feel are a total robbery".
Let's wind this up. I don't take it personally that you don't like the phone. I've ordered it, and your views had no influence on that decision. I have not defended the phone, I have merely raised the point that your post has no value to the help section for the rest of the members. As for the attempt to validate the reason for starting the thread, I think there is more to the phone than battery and sensors for $800. I didn't buy it for the battery, and my Pixel 2 lasts all day for me so it won't be a problem. I do sometimes have to use the phone screen when driving so the motion sense tech will be a great benefit there like the new cars have the touchless systems. Is it productive to go to a website and review a product you've never used?
Anyway so that I can convey to you how much I am not offended or upset or feel under attack, I sign off here and will leave the thread to the people who are upset. I hope you find the phone you want, and if you still need to vent about how much you hate this phone you can continue your diatribe here in hopes someone gives a f__k and is happy to stroke your ego.
I hope you find the right phone for you. Goodbye, I won't let the door hit me on the way out.
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That’s a dumb example “complain to the Apple store that they don’t sell android phones”... how does that relate to this thread exactly? You must have missed the part where I said I was interested in this phone but it fell short. Red herring
No the sensitive ones are you guys that can’t stomach a smartphone scrutiny. That is crazy, it’s just a phone it’s not like I’m attacking your family or something.
Honestly I’m offended by google. I’m offended because I was highly anticipating this phone and it is such a let down. And I do feel insulted by google thinking they can pull a fast one on me by offering such stingy specs at that price. I find it offensive seriously.
Historically speaking, android users have always been smart with their purchase, definitely smarter than iPhone users imo. We like to have all the bells and whistles at a reasonable price. This year, the pixel 4 is the total opposite of that. It has some bells here and there but again, that battery size with that price tag is just crazy. It’s just not acceptable for me. If it is to you then more power to you, obviously I have no say or power in your or anyone else’s decision. But I always thought I’d android users were smarter with our purchase, seems like it’s a thing of the past.
I’m ordering a oneplus 7T tomorrow soon as the orders go live and I’m very excited about. I think it offers the best bang for the buck. Enjoy your pixel 4, it’s your money and your decision.
Is it productive for me to go to a website and review a product I’ve never use? That’s the wrong question to ask. Here’s a more fitting one, If a company unveils a product, do I get to express my opinion on it before having the device in hand? Or I must absolutely have the device in hand before being able to give an opinion on it?
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so... what next?

So alot of people (especially in the UK) will be coming to the end of contract and life cycle on the p20. The question is....what next.
Do we go p40 without Google services or look at something different?
Iv loved the p20, it's been reliable and solid, but I'm a Google loyalist. I use the services and apps and the idea of losing apps iv paid for already on Google play just seems a step to far.
Iv found updates painfully slow to arrive through O2, months and months behind. So definitely an unlocked from carrier handset next.
But what one?
Samsung
One Plus
Or something completely different?

I love my phone, but unfortunately i came to get too annoyed with the software.
I will be switching to either Xiaomi, oneplus (doubt about oneplus but i'll see).
Until Huawei releases harmony os, i will not buy their stuff anymore. Great hardware, **** software.

The Restless Soul said:
I love my phone, but unfortunately i came to get too annoyed with the software.
I will be switching to either Xiaomi, oneplus (doubt about oneplus but i'll see).
Until Huawei releases harmony os, i will not buy their stuff anymore. Great hardware, **** software.
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Yes. This mi 10 pro seems like a decent upgrade.

If you want updates to your phone, you have 2 choices. Iphone or pixel.
OnePlus is super easy to unlock the bootloader and will not void the warranty. Then just use lineageOS.

I had enough of of the Huawei software. I was expecting Android 10 by now, but nothings been said about that release for a while now.
Add locked bootloaders and no development, made a rather boring phone. It was the only Android phone I've ever had which didn't even get a working TWRP after 2 years!
I went for the Pixel 4XL yesterday, and I'm very happy with it. Bootloader unlocked, rooted and GPay working fine

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Yes. This mi 10 pro seems like a decent upgrade.
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Exactly. Sadly that it is kinda expensive and doesn't bring water resistance, but still it's pretty great!

The Restless Soul said:
Exactly. Sadly that it is kinda expensive and doesn't bring water resistance, but still it's pretty great!
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According to current information it's 4999 yuan which is more expensive than previous releases but it's still cheaper than OnePlus 7T Pro, not to mention Samsung or Pixel and iPhone. I am afraid it'll be more pricey in Europe though. Lack of IP rating is bad but I think I can live without it if the price is competitive.

forever_lol said:
According to current information it's 4999 yuan which is more expensive than previous releases but it's still cheaper than OnePlus 7T Pro, not to mention Samsung or Pixel and iPhone. I am afraid it'll be more pricey in Europe though. Lack of IP rating is bad but I think I can live without it if the price is competitive.
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If it is at least splash proof, then i am happy either way. Better that than nothing. Besides, MIUI is really good in terms of looks and customization. I don't know about the system apps and country-features restrictions. Let's see how the phone will perform.
Personally, the non-pro version is better than the pro, but let's wait first.
Oneplus is good too but still skeptical about them, after they got called out many times due to their software backdoors and insecurity.

The Restless Soul said:
If it is at least splash proof, then i am happy either way. Better that than nothing. Besides, MIUI is really good in terms of looks and customization. I don't know about the system apps and country-features restrictions. Let's see how the phone will perform.
Personally, the non-pro version is better than the pro, but let's wait first.
Oneplus is good too but still skeptical about them, after they got called out many times due to their software backdoors and insecurity.
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It's supposed to be splash proof. Regular mi 10 has bigger battery but pro version has better camera.

If you care about software on any level - don't go with Xiaomi. They are even worse than Huawei with updates and their camera software is probably the worst on the market.
I think the "what's next" really depends on the personal preference and needs.
I personally would never go with anything without Google services. Software wise - Pixels lead, OnePlus are probably the second choice right now. Camera wise it's probably Pixel/Samsung. If you want to keep the price low, Xiaomi is probably the way to go but you will sacrifice things. I would say OnePlus is the most balanced, but if I wouldn't care for the price I would go with Pixel.

I've never owned Xiaomi and frankly speaking I am bit curious, especially that this year they claim they won't compete with other flagships with price factor only. I guess I'll order it online, use it and return it within 14 days if I don't like it. Samsung is not an option to me as I want a handset with SD 865 and my region is "blessed" with their Exynos. Pixel is overpriced on the other hand and designwise...just horrible. I'd rather go for OP if their quality check is improved this year.

arty_a said:
If you case about software on any level - don't go with Xiaomi. They are even worse than Huawei with updates and their camera software is probably the worst on the market.
I think the "what's next" really depends on the personal preference and needs.
I personally would never go with anything without Google services. Software wise - Pixels lead, OnePlus are probably the second choice right now. Camera wise it's probably Pixel/Samsung. If you want to keep the price low, Xiaomi is probably the way to go but you will sacrifice things. I would say OnePlus is the most balanced, but if I wouldn't care for the price I would go with Pixel.
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I mean, since many xda nerds advertise xiaomi (second place, top being oneplus) as the best company that supports custom roms, i suppose a custom rom with gcam can fix all the issues Xiaomi phones have. I guess?

The Restless Soul said:
I mean, since many xda nerds advertise xiaomi (second place, top being oneplus) as the best company that supports custom roms, i suppose a custom rom with gcam can fix all the issues Xiaomi phones have. I guess?
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True if you are willing to do all that. Last time I checked xiaomi.eu stopped supporting GCam ports on their official forum because they worked pretty terrible. I guess you can find some ROM like LineageOS that works with GCam, I didn't really look into it since I don't own a Xiaomi phone anymore.
If you just want to buy something that works out of the box they are not the best choice.

arty_a said:
True if you are willing to do all that. Last time I checked xiaomi.eu stopped supporting GCam ports on their official forum because they worked pretty terrible. I guess you can find some ROM like LineageOS that works with GCam, I didn't really look into it since I don't own a Xiaomi phone anymore.
If you just want to buy something that works out of the box they are not the best choice.
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I'm sure you're right about previous releases. Thank you for your feedback. It's good to hear some critical voice before the final decision is made. However there are already camera comparisons between mi 10 pro and s20 ultra and these pics/videos looks pretty good. Mi 10 pro camera is supposed to be revolutionary and able to compete with other flagships. Well we'll see.

Oneplus 8 pro. Nothing comes close unless you want to spend £1200 on a pixel 5. If money isn't a problem then the latter would be comparable and the only phone that is.

Why do you need to upgrade? I'm holding off here in the UK until 5G becomes a reality and decent phones are available. New phones for 2020 so far (and into the Q2) don't really offer anything above what I currently have hardware wise. The phone works fine for me, battery lasts > 1 day even after 2 years.

dladz said:
Oneplus 8 pro. Nothing comes close unless you want to spend £1200 on a pixel 5. If money isn't a problem then the latter would be comparable and the only phone that is.
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I'm thinking the one plus but it looks like it's network exclusive to ee

dlevick said:
I'm thinking the one plus but it looks like it's network exclusive to ee
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I am with EE, by far the best in London, Liverpool and Manchester for all the places I visit, getting expensive now but that fits perfectly for me...
What gives you the idea that EE will have the OnePlus , as in the new one?
That is the one I want.

For me oneplus would have to show incredible improvement in keeping their promises regarding coming improvements and their cameras. I can't trust reviews 9n them anymore and would want to see it first hand. Shame as otherwise their hardware is blinding fast and updates/rootproof warranty are great
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blufreak said:
For me oneplus would have to show incredible improvement in keeping their promises regarding coming improvements and their cameras. I can't trust reviews 9n them anymore and would want to see it first hand. Shame as otherwise their hardware is blinding fast and updates/rootproof warranty are great
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Honestly for me so long as ois is on the camera and it's got "some" development, the screen is 90hz or over..I'm in.
The rest is a bonus.
Oh and I miss that DND hardware switch
Apparently waterproofing, wireless charging is all on its way.
My only problem will be the price if they're all added, personally I couldn't care less about wireless charging, not when it idles so well and charges as fast as it does..maybe if I started using it I'd become a fan but I can't see it at the moment.
Time will tell.
Plus if they don't have the 8 pro on my carrier I ain't getting it lol.

Question McLaren 7t Pro to 10 Pro: Worth it?

I got my Mclaren 7t Pro almost 3 years ago. Battery life isn't what it used to be, but otherwise it's been a really good workhorse for me.
Been eyeing the new round of phones and nothing seems to really jump out at me. I looked at the Galaxy S22 Ultra, but that thing is huge. All of the demo Pixel 6 Pro's I tried had various problems and the 10t just... doesn't seem much of an upgrade on paper to my 7t Pro.
with the 10t, I'd be losing 4gb of RAM and getting a better camera and better screen. Processing seems roughly the same, although a new Snapdragon might be quicker than my older.
Any thoughts? is it worth upgrading or wait and push off for the 12gb RAM model?

I came from the oneplus 8 pro (which also had 12gb ram). The oneplus 10 pro isnt an upgrade, its the same phone.
Feels like it anyways.. I'd have stayed with the oneplus 8 pro except my screen was completely destroyed and so was the camera from a far drop.

It depends what you want from a phone I guess.
Coming from the 8 pro, there's a lot of comparable parts, for example the screen, the audio, even the cameras to some degree.
But there are some huge improvements.
The cameras: for example in videos, the stabilisation is phenomenal, and zooming it's more akin to a TV camera, the fluidity and smoothness is definitely something new, it's a joy to use. Tbh as are the cameras, no macro though which sucks but that's life.
Charging: this is something to behold, you can literally see the percentage increase, half an hour and you're at 100%, it's insanely fast.
SOC: performance is a massive bump over the 8 pro so will be even bigger over the 7 series, PlayStation 2 games run at a full 60fps which is staggering really.
Battery: 5000Mah my first couple of charges 11 hours and 10 hours SOT, amazing tbh.
Software: very mixed bag android 12, there are things to like but for me I need a custom ROM which are being worked on as we speak.
Looks:. Great looking, non fingerprint shiny surface, looks brilliant, nice and heavy too. Feels high quality.
Overall comparing to my last phone. The 8 pro, you need to understand that the 8 pro was a stellar phone. It stood out amongst the other 8 series devices. Was the best of the bunch but honestly besides the lack of a macro camera, I can safely say every department has improved.
With that in mind would it be an upgrade over the McLaren 7? Yes I think it would be. Performance, battery, looks and features.
Is it going to reinvent the wheel? No but Moore's law is dead on phones, you aren't getting twice as much any more, but to say it's not a worthy upgrade if you're due for one and have any other OnePlus phone would be untrue, even people with the 9 or 9 pro would be missing features that are only present on the 10 pro.
That's my opinion anyway.

dladz said:
It depends what you want from a phone I guess.
Coming from the 8 pro, there's a lot of comparable parts, for example the screen, the audio, even the cameras to some degree.
But there are some huge improvements.
The cameras: for example in videos, the stabilisation is phenomenal, and zooming it's more akin to a TV camera, the fluidity and smoothness is definitely something new, it's a joy to use. Tbh as are the cameras, no macro though which sucks but that's life.
Charging: this is something to behold, you can literally see the percentage increase, half an hour and you're at 100%, it's insanely fast.
SOC: performance is a massive bump over the 8 pro so will be even bigger over the 7 series, PlayStation 2 games run at a full 60fps which is staggering really.
Battery: 5000Mah my first couple of charges 11 hours and 10 hours SOT, amazing tbh.
Software: very mixed bag android 12, there are things to like but for me I need a custom ROM which are being worked on as we speak.
Looks:. Great looking, non fingerprint shiny surface, looks brilliant, nice and heavy too. Feels high quality.
Overall comparing to my last phone. The 8 pro, you need to understand that the 8 pro was a stellar phone. It stood out amongst the other 8 series devices. Was the best of the bunch but honestly besides the lack of a macro camera, I can safely say every department has improved.
With that in mind would it be an upgrade over the McLaren 7? Yes I think it would be. Performance, battery, looks and features.
Is it going to reinvent the wheel? No but Moore's law is dead on phones, you aren't getting twice as much any more, but to say it's not a worthy upgrade if you're due for one and have any other OnePlus phone would be untrue, even people with the 9 or 9 pro would be missing features that are only present on the 10 pro.
That's my opinion anyway.
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I wish I could agree, but I'm just speaking from an average consumer. You are definitely a Power user
This phone seems just as smooth. The camera is currently worse (Just because I was running a gcam port. But that will definitely be fixed once I have time to find a good gcam port!
I guess I should rephrase what I had said. If you aren't looking to game and you're just an average user, you'll notice no difference. They lowered the ram for US model(for whatever reason, I was kind kind of upset about that too)
One DOWNFALL is definitely the lack of MEMC. That 120hz upscaling was HUGE for me. Especially when it was the only reason I would have considered staying on OOS.

Morrob95 said:
I wish I could agree, but I'm just speaking from an average consumer. You are definitely a Power user
This phone seems just as smooth. The camera is currently worse (Just because I was running a gcam port. But that will definitely be fixed once I have time to find a good gcam port!
I guess I should rephrase what I had said. If you aren't looking to game and you're just an average user, you'll notice no difference. They lowered the ram for US model(for whatever reason, I was kind kind of upset about that too)
One DOWNFALL is definitely the lack of MEMC. That 120hz upscaling was HUGE for me. Especially when it was the only reason I would have considered staying on OOS.
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Give that a whirl
Definitely clearer stills.. no slow Mo but for stills it's got better software, I think OOS android 12 is actually still in beta, sounds like a joke but I think it is.
Hopefully it'll improve, until then it's pro mode for me.
77.91 MB file on MEGA
mega.nz
A chap on telegram shared it with us.
Evo X for OnePlus 10 pro group.
Telegram: Contact @EvolutionXOnePlus10
t.me

I came from the 8 Pro and 9 Pro, and this 10 Pro feels & performs as good or better so far...

Try This Review

OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren Review
The OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren is a wickedly powerful Android phone which falls just short of the Galaxy S20 series on performance, for considerably less coin.
www.pcmag.com

why?

dladz said:
Give that a whirl
Definitely clearer stills.. no slow Mo but for stills it's got better software, I think OOS android 12 is actually still in beta, sounds like a joke but I think it is.
Hopefully it'll improve, until then it's pro mode for me.
77.91 MB file on MEGA
mega.nz
A chap on telegram shared it with us.
Evo X for OnePlus 10 pro group.
Telegram: Contact @EvolutionXOnePlus10
t.me
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Bro, THANK YOU.
Took a couple little bs pictures and its SO much better. Even without using one of those config files that will inevitably come out. You are just a wealth of knowledge!
I don't have telegram, but I'll make one when I get home just because of that group. Is the rom posted yet or is it in development?

Morrob95 said:
Bro, THANK YOU.
Took a couple little bs pictures and its SO much better. Even without using one of those config files that will inevitably come out. You are just a wealth of knowledge!
I don't have telegram, but I'll make one when I get home just because of that group. Is the rom posted yet or is it in development?
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Hahah no worries man, click the like button
I'm sure there will be more versions soon, bit of a slow burner compared to the 8 series, but it'll come good I reckon.
No ROM as yet. OnePlus hasn't released correct driver's or something so they're working in the device tree.
I don't pretend to understand it all but it's in the post I reckon... For me Evo X was the best ROM on the 8 and probably for all the devices I've had so if it's anything like that I'm sure we'll be happy

thanks for the conversation everyone. I decided to take the plunge, ordered it through Best buy for the $100 giftcard.
I was tempted to pick up a "global" 12gb version on amazon for a little more cash. but, decided to stick with what's "actually" available to me in the US.
Any recommended cases or accessories?

gravitywell said:
thanks for the conversation everyone. I decided to take the plunge, ordered it through Best buy for the $100 giftcard.
I was tempted to pick up a "global" 12gb version on amazon for a little more cash. but, decided to stick with what's "actually" available to me in the US.
Any recommended cases or accessories?
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You're a little late to get the buds for free, the promotion ended on the 12th April... But having used them now for a little while I can wholeheartedly recommend them, I honestly can't fault them, the noise cancellation is actually quite spooky, I'm not an audiophile so I may be just witnessing this for the first time myself but it's quite amazing IMHO.
The 8GB version I have myself, your battery will thank you for this and if you do end up rooting and get a custom ROM on there you can use a pixel type ROM which will enable unlimited back up of photos so the 128GB storage won't be an issue.
Cases I've not tried but you've got one in the box that I'm using myself, nice and slim and the phone comes with a screen protector already fitted which works as expected. Plus you've got victus gorilla glass on there.
I'd I wanted strength for drops then a ringke would do the job and still look cool or a UAG if they release one. For aesthetics I'd say the sandstone would look good.

dladz said:
if you do end up rooting and get a custom ROM on there you can use a pixel type ROM which will enable unlimited back up of photos so the 128GB storage won't be an issue.
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Can you elaborate on this? or, point me to a thread? I'd love to have this and drop the $10 2tb I'm paying for every month

gravitywell said:
Can you elaborate on this? or, point me to a thread? I'd love to have this and drop the $10 2tb I'm paying for every month
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Evo X mate, or any pixel ROM really, pixels get unlimited back up.

gravitywell said:
Can you elaborate on this? or, point me to a thread? I'd love to have this and drop the $10 2tb I'm paying for every month
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Here's some info:
(Q) is there a way to make photos think your phones a pixel whilst remaining on OOS?
Title says it all really. Some AOSP ROMs make photos think that the phones actually a pixel and so back up is unlimited. I think that should be standard anyway. Google makes a tonne of money as it is. I do have a pixel but wondered what's...
forum.xda-developers.com

dladz said:
You're a little late to get the buds for free, the promotion ended on the 12th April... But having used them now for a little while I can wholeheartedly recommend them, I honestly can't fault them, the noise cancellation is actually quite spooky, I'm not an audiophile so I may be just witnessing this for the first time myself but it's quite amazing IMHO.
The 8GB version I have myself, your battery will thank you for this and if you do end up rooting and get a custom ROM on there you can use a pixel type ROM which will enable unlimited back up of photos so the 128GB storage won't be an issue.
Cases I've not tried but you've got one in the box that I'm using myself, nice and slim and the phone comes with a screen protector already fitted which works as expected. Plus you've got victus gorilla glass on there.
I'd I wanted strength for drops then a ringke would do the job and still look cool or a UAG if they release one. For aesthetics I'd say the sandstone would look good.
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Bro wait, you got a case in the box for your oneplus 10 pro US varient?? I was WHOLY expecting one, but mine didn't come with it! I ordered brand new on amazon and received it release day. I ended up buying one anyway, but still lol

Morrob95 said:
Bro wait, you got a case in the box for your oneplus 10 pro US varient?? I was WHOLY expecting one, but mine didn't come with it! I ordered brand new on amazon and received it release day. I ended up buying one anyway, but still lol
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I'm in the UK mate...
Oh wow you didn't get one??
Here's mine.
Bit crap you didn't get one mate..I hear the charger over there is slower too. Is that to do with that voltage output of your grid? Think yours is 110v and ours is 240v or vice versa, no idea...just trying to put reason to it.
Or is this a Chinese company being mean to the yanks?
Either way. So long as the phone is the same you're golden.
Did you at least claim your free buds??

They are superb mate and for free.
Offer expired 12th April

dladz said:
I'm in the UK mate...
Oh wow you didn't get one??
Here's mine.
Bit crap you didn't get one mate..I hear the charger over there is slower too. Is that to do with that voltage output of your grid? Think yours is 110v and ours is 240v or vice versa, no idea...just trying to put reason to it.
Or is this a Chinese company being mean to the yanks?
Either way. So long as the phone is the same you're golden.
Did you at least claim your free buds??
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No i had no idea that was a thing either! However, I dont think I would have qualified anyway. I purchased on the 12th and took delivery on the release date (14 apr).
That case actually looks better than the one I had to buy. All other oneplus's I've bought had cases, I think they're just mad at us Americans LOL The slower charging is whatever. It would be cool to have it but the tests I've seen only show a couple minute difference for both phones to be fully charged.