I had been a month and around 10 days user/owner of the GALAXY A8+ phone, and though I loved the phone and everything in it, I would like to share my SORRY and APOLOGETIC feelings for all the Samsung Galaxy Series owners, that if you open up your phones, enable the DEV OPTIONS, and didn't get the OEM UNLOCK option, trust me, after 40 days of waiting and trying as a former but recent GALAXY A8+ owner, there is 100% guarantee that you will never get it visible, no matter what you do, how much days you keep the device turned ON without rebooting, if your phones are EXYNOS or SNAPDRAGON CPU based variants, what or any kind of ROM you flash. It will never be visible. Because the big ******* SAMMY doesn't want you to open up your device's BL and root it and do whatever you might want to as in case of an ANDROID DEVELOPER.
So I sold my GALAXY A8+ yesterday and I am going for XPERIA XA2 ULTRA, where SONY does respect the free choice of either UNLOCKING or keeping the BL LOCKED. They don't go around dictating what owners of their SMARTPHONES can and cannot do.
SONY IS THE BEST.:good:
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I had been a month and around 10 days user/owner of the GALAXY A8+ phone, and though I loved the phone and everything in it, I would like to share my SORRY and APOLOGETIC feelings for all the Samsung Galaxy Series owners, that if you open up your phones, enable the DEV OPTIONS, and didn't get the OEM UNLOCK option, trust me, after 40 days of waiting and trying as a former but recent GALAXY A8+ owner, there is 100% guarantee that you will never get it visible, no matter what you do, how much days you keep the device turned ON without rebooting, if your phones are EXYNOS or SNAPDRAGON CPU based variants, what or any kind of ROM you flash. It will never be visible. Because the big ******* SAMMY doesn't want you to open up your device's BL and root it and do whatever you might want to as in case of an ANDROID DEVELOPER.
So I sold my GALAXY A8+ yesterday and I am going for XPERIA XA2 ULTRA, where SONY does respect the free choice of either UNLOCKING or keeping the BL LOCKED. They don't go around dictating what owners of their SMARTPHONES can and cannot do.
SONY IS THE BEST.:good:
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Root the Sony is difficult too I pass on that one and got this one I have been rooted since day one.
You should have gotten a one plus the development for is a lot.
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Root the Sony is difficult too I pass on that one and got this one I have been rooted since day one.
You should have gotten a one plus the development for is a lot.
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I have had 3 different Xperia phones since 2014 until 2016 and I never had any problem rooting them. It took sometime for my first Xperia phone but then it became so easy for me that I would root my next 2 Xperia Phones in just a matter of a single day. Infact SONY officially promotes and welcomes unlocking the BL on their smartphones for the sake of Development community. Unlike this b****y SAMSUNG and LG policy of blocking the BL UNLOCKING and not allowing OEM UNLOCKING by built-in hardware securty functions.
I will never go back to SAMSUNG and LG again.
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this is not really important but i'm just curious to know..
Are there more OB users here that came to the point where they want to buy something new to replace our OB?
I am..
I have had a really great time here on xda and with my OB (unlike many others i was very satisfied with this phone, probably because of the great roms here).
To bad some dev's aren't here anymore..
anyway, i don't have a new phone yet but am looking for one and so far it seems that the Sony Xperia T is going to be my next one.
Why? It looks great, has great hardware en the price is right.. Also something i find very important is that it's easy to root/customise.. (offcourse i want to stay here to get some great custom roms for my next phone).
And Sony seems to be a great phone for custom development.
HTC also has some great models but are harder to customise..
So, are there more people who are looking for a new phone? What are you going to buy and why?
Or maybe you already bought another phone..
Definitely the nexus 4. Easy to customize, easy to root/flash, excellent dev support, amazing hardware, small price. Everything you want. Sony phones are generally difficult to unlock/root cuz of locked bootloader, etc.
And I am also planning to buy the nexus 4, it released officially in India just now.
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Definitely the nexus 4. Easy to customize, easy to root/flash, excellent dev support, amazing hardware, small price. Everything you want. Sony phones are generally difficult to unlock/root cuz of locked bootloader, etc.
And I am also planning to buy the nexus 4, it released officially in India just now.
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it's indeed a great phone and here in the netherlands it's already for sale since half april but for me it's way over budget.
Then maybe you should go for a Samsung. They also have unlocked bootloaders, good dev support, and see easy to root/flash/restore. Also, unlike the OB, Their hardware works very decently with custom roms.Afaik most htc and Sony phones have locked bootloaders.
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Then maybe you should go for a Samsung. They also have unlocked bootloaders, good dev support, and see easy to root/flash/restore. Also, unlike the OB, Their hardware works very decently with custom roms.Afaik most htc and Sony phones have locked bootloaders.
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i thought about that too..
also i've done alot of reading on xda to find a phone wich has some good devs.
sony xperia is easy to root/revert/customise, HTC is much more risky..
Xperia T already has some great custom roms and kernels so that's a good thing, you only need to buy a carrier free version so you can unlock the bootloader.
If i want to buy a Samsung within my budget, it will be the Galaxy SII. Also a really great phone but it's old. although it's hardware is quiet good it somehow makes it less interesting. the positive side? it has great support on xda.
one thing that i've read about the SII is that the screen is really good, resolution is lower then the Xperia T but it still seems to be better..
tough choice..
All the best! I don't know much abut Sony, but I've had experience with the Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo V, was a pain in the a** to root....you have to flash an earlier kernel before you root, and then you have to unlock the bootloader....for that you need to use fastboot, flashtool, and whatnot. Y have to flash a custom kernel if you want cwm... so my general opinion about Sony is that it's too much hassle, but that's the only Sony phone I've messed with. And definitely no LG either!
I suggest the Samsung Galaxy SII X. My sister in law just got one. It's hardware is faster/more powerful than the standard SII. I've only played around with it a few times, but it's fast and has a very nice display.
It's probably just as easy to root/install custom ROM's as it is for the standard SII.
Good luck in your search.
I too am thinking about replacing my OB, but not anytime soon. Just seeing what else is out there for now.
we don't have the sgsIIx here, we have sgsII and sgsIIplus (hardware the same) and i didn't choose it. the price is just to high for such old phone.
it's great, yes but it's outdated.. after reading many reviews i've come to the conclusion that the xperia t is much better for almost the same price.
also the xperia t section on xda looks really great and have seen some great roms and kernels.
so, to make a long story short.. i just ordered the sony xperia t and tomorrow it will be delivered.
I see 3 contenders, each has strengths and weaknesses [in no particular order]:
HTC One (M8)
Samsung Galaxy S5
Sony Xperia Z2
I'm not thrilled with the camera on the HTC One (M8), but overall I'm ok with HTC
and have been very happy and thankful for the support I've received on this forum,
I love my Vivid and it's still a great phone.
The S5 has a great camera, and all the other features that matter for me [SD card slot,
active community support, replaceable battery, strong environment resistance] ... BUT
I don't like KNOX and based on what I'm reading [and experiencing with my Samsung
Galaxy Note 10.1 - 2014 Edition tablet], that lockdown & strategy isn't going to go away
any time soon ... and may, for all intents and purposes, be 'insurmountable' without
giving up warranty support - which isn't OK with me, cuz I'm not made of money ...
On to the Sony ... seems like the specs are pretty good, perhaps lacking in onboard
memory [16Gb at the moment, I'd prefer 32Gb or 64Gb], good processors, decent design
and build quality ... but the community support seems thin [perhaps because Sony isn't
a huge player in the US? Perhaps because they're release cycle & adoption by big US
carriers is a lilttle thin & doesn't get as much press as HTC and Sammy? I don't know]
and I don't know how good the accessory market is for them ...
So the question is ... what phone is next for you, and how/why did you come to that
decision?
If it's one of these three, great ... if it's not, great ... because that may help me to see
options I have missed.
Thanks in advance for taking time to slog through my drivel.
-dmm
Trying to keep the expenses down, so to actually upgrade I am considering the Galaxy S4. The S5 is too expensive, HTC One does not have a replaceable battery, don't particularly like Sony these days.
Mind, I am still 3 months from upgrade time, and my mind is not set.
I replaced the Vivid with a Nexus 4. Comparing the early effort for custom roms Vivid vs Nexus, it was literally night and day. Waiting weeks/months to find a way to unlock the bootloader vs 2 minutes with the nexus.
I will never buy another carrier branded phone, nor a phone that is locked down. If I were to upgrade again, I would have to go with the Nexus 5. I might not get the bells, whistles and prestige of the lofty flagships, but for an Android buff like me, the open nature of the nexus line is priceless.
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Trying to keep the expenses down, so to actually upgrade I am considering the Galaxy S4. The S5 is too expensive, HTC One does not have a replaceable battery, don't particularly like Sony these days.
Mind, I am still 3 months from upgrade time, and my mind is not set.
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I was using Vivid in 2011, 2012.
In 2013, I was thinking between google edition i9505 and AT&T SHG-I337 for the upgrade Google edition came unlock but it was cost around $600 at that time. AT&T phone was network locked but it cost around $65 for upgrade with 2 years plan.
I went with AT&T SGH-I-337. I rooted the phone before I activated. After activation I installed the custom rom. The phone came with Android 4.2.2.
This month I installed the 4.4.2 custom rom (Golden eye 29, 30 then 31). I am very happy with S4 this way.
I am thinking of going for S5 after the developer find a way to tame the knox thingy.
Might be on the market to update my S2, despite everything since being internally crippled, and seeing how S5's hacks aren't looking too good right now, my next thought is the S4 Active. I DO want waterproofing since I've never owned a phone like that yet (and I hate HTC, so M8 is outta the question), Moto doesn't interest me w/ their androids, and though S4 Active is no longer a flagship it's still a spunky phone compared to the S2.
Thoughts? Wait and see what happens to S5 or just get Active and move on with life.
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Might be on the market to update my S2, despite everything since being internally crippled, and seeing how S5's hacks aren't looking too good right now, my next thought is the S4 Active. I DO want waterproofing since I've never owned a phone like that yet (and I hate HTC, so M8 is outta the question), Moto doesn't interest me w/ their androids, and though S4 Active is no longer a flagship it's still a spunky phone compared to the S2.
Thoughts? Wait and see what happens to S5 or just get Active and move on with life.
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A couple important things to consider:
1. The Active is not waterproof, it is water resistant. Make sure you understand the difference so you know what you're getting in to.
2. The bootloader on this phone (i537) is locked and the only thing you can do is root it, you cannot flash custom kernels.
Other than that this is a great phone. Do yourself a favor and get the international version with an unlocked bootloader if you want to flash ROMs (i9295).
As long as it's rooted, that's really all I care about to be honest. That and ability to sim unlock. Used mostly ShoStock on the S2 and though I've tried ported and other roms, I liked the stock base the best.
I had a Samsung S4, rooted it, loved it. I upgrade to the S7e without checking, and no root. I upgraded to LG G7, thinking they couldn't possibly be this bad - no root.
So, any hope of the T-Mobile version having root? It's not a dealbreaker (the G7 has terrible cameras anyway) but knowing what the options are is nice.
I'm hoping that I can still get the $390 off when trading in my G7 despite getting two with the B1G1 a year ago... lol
Thanks!
Based upon past history, the T-Mobile SD855 version (or any American variant) is unlikely to get root, due to locked bootloader. I had a TMo S7 which got root via a leaked engineering kernel, but it was not satisfactory to me, nor many people. I got an international Exynos S7 which has full root, ROMs, etc. and is WAY better. The Exynos S10 is expected to get the full root treatment, but it hasn't yet. I'm holding off on buying a G970F S10e until root is established. Typically takes roughly a month, if I remember correctly, although this model appears it will be a bit trickier.
If you're counting on being able to root this phone, the best advice is probably get another phone. My Note4 took almost two years to see root and by the time it did, most developers had moved on. The Note7 had an engineering kernel "leaked" but that phone didn't last long. The Note8 was rooted for a short time but without an unlocked bootloader and an available recovery, flashing ROMs wasn't possible.
The enthusiast community is so small these days it doesn't pay to unlock the bootloaders. Samsung and others make far more money selling to corporations and government entities which value security.
Zero to None for the North American Snapdragon...
Unless you get the China version. That I believe has unlockable Snapdragon.
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Unless you get the China version. That I believe has unlockable Snapdragon.
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Where did you read that?
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Where did you read that?
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Non-North American Snapdragon (China, Central/South America) models are traditionally bootloader unlockable.
The unrooted T-Mobile S10 is okay at best. It's only real saving feature is the sound quality
Finance the Razer Phone 2. It's only $500
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The unrooted T-Mobile S10 is okay at best. It's only real saving feature is the sound quality
Finance the Razer Phone 2. It's only $500
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Seems like a nice phone, and a great value, though I am not a huge fan of no headphone jack. Also it's a side grade for me from my G7 (both are S845s). But looking at the forum, rooting sure looks easy. I'll keep it in mind, thanks.
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Seems like a nice phone, and a great value, though I am not a huge fan of no headphone jack. Also it's a side grade for me from my G7 (both are S845s). But looking at the forum, rooting sure looks easy. I'll keep it in mind, thanks.
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Processing speed difference is infinitesimal in my opinion, and rooting will just get easier very soon. Razer just released full audio source and the devs are >< that close to cracking the encryption issue for fully working TWRP
Samsung doesn't care about the development community and their last good phone in my opinion was the S5
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Exactly what the dude below you said and the should work well with Verizon and Sprint according to Chinese Note 9 (same bands as Chinese s10) users claiming they got everything working at least on Verizon.
I recently purchased an S6 Active off of Ebay. The model number is SM-G890A and learned that the bootloader is locked per AT&T. This was quite frustrating to learn as I have just spent $90 on a phone that I was hoping to use LineageOS on. I have spent hours bashing my head on my desk as I am new to the Android community and have never flashed a new OS on an Android before. Does anyone have any KIND suggestions for me as a new member of this community? Is it even possible to root or even remove these horrible apps AT&T has installed on this phone? Please help my desperate soul.
I have a suggestion...sell it and buy an Exynos model (SM-G920F). No way to get around this sadly. These new Snapdragon bootloaders are prisons made of thick steel and cannot be hacked at the present state unless we pool a lot of money together and it has strong community interest, but it isn't 2015 anymore so the hardcore hackers already went past the S6, S7, S8 and S9.
I can understand this is frustrating but believe me, the quality of life on a rooted Snapdragon device isn't worth the monumental effort just to use it, you'll be fighting against Qualcomm's security constantly, you won't have the ability to use Magisk Hide because that requires tampering the kernel and settling for subpar solutions that not always work. I endured one of those locked devices for a year once and it wasn't pleasant. The Exynos model doesn't give any resistance once you unlock it by flicking a toggle in developer options and it has plenty of ROMs and support. Sorry you had to learn the sad truth about the Snapdragon-powered Galaxy S devices since the Galaxy S6 like this, the hard way.
I know it saddens you and that you're wasting time, and I do hate all the "just buy a new one" kind of answers too but this time you're at a dead end. Now you have to investigate before buying a phone, the Galaxy S2 and 4.2.2 Jelly Bean days are over. Also stay away from Huawei, none of them can be unlocked anymore.