In our local market(in Bangladesh) both the Global and Chinese variants of Nokia 7 plus are available(both of which are Android one), the chinese variant being cheaper.
What are the differences between these 2 variants(if any)? Specially in terms of OTA updates, google services and general usage. Will both of them be supported(get regular updates) for the same duration? Does the Chinese version have compatibility issues with foreign bands? etc.
It would also be helpful if the users of these models share their experiences.
I have searched the forum for this topic, but couldn't find a specific thread that answered all these questions.
Chinese have 6GB RAM, global have 4gb ram
Chinese version dont have Google play service
Ota distribute separately
Chinese version no Android p beta
lhkakex said:
Chinese have 6GB RAM, global have 4gb ram
Chinese version dont have Google play service
Ota distribute separately
Chinese version no Android p beta
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The chinese variant available here is Android One certified and has Google services enabled. I was wondering if it will get the same software updates as the global version and at the same time.
is it possible to flash firmware from global version to the chinese one? and then have 6GB RAM model with the global version goodies
Doubt about Chinese Models
Hello, I am Brazilian and I intend to import a n7 + into the DX site ... I am in doubt about the Chinese models available ... my version would be TA-1062 4GB / 64GB..would it be the "00WW" or "00CN" variant? I simply loved the device but there are many problems described and the biggest of them is the Chinese models do not participate in the program Android ONE ... I would like at least to be able to install the global ROM TA-1046 in it to be able to enjoy all the support but apparently more problems like bootloader appear..can anyone give me a hint? The store says it's the Taiwa model. Thanks
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Hello All,
A friend of mine will be traveling to china the next week, and i can ask him to get me a K20 Pro device.
So i need your advice if i can later install the Global ROM easily without harming the device ?
A friend if mine wants one too, but he uses the phone in Arabic, So does the Global Rom contain Arabic language ?!
Where to buy the phone from Shenzhen - China, and how much it will cost for the 128/8 and 256/8 versions
Thanks all
There's nothing like Global rom as of now. There's either China rom or India rom. Global rom would only be released once K20 is released in Global markets. Your best bet is to either use India or miui.eu rom which both suppport multi-lang. The prices of K20 pro in China have recently received a price cut and your friend can easily get the devices from the Official MI stores. Check mi.com for the latest price, conversion and store info.
To flash EU or India rom or Global(Post Release) rom, you'll have to keep bootloader unlocked forever. Locking it back while being on any other Rom from the Original rom (China) will brick the device.
Not sure if you plan to use any apps that highly depend on a locked bootloader.
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Sukhi said:
There's nothing like Global rom as of now. There's either China rom or India rom. Global rom would only be released once K20 is released in Global markets. Your best bet is to either use India or miui.eu rom which both suppport multi-lang. The prices of K20 pro in China have recently received a price cut and your friend can easily get the devices from the Official MI stores. Check mi.com for the latest price, conversion and store info.
To flash EU or India rom or Global(Post Release) rom, you'll have to keep bootloader unlocked forever. Locking it back while being on any other Rom from the Original rom (China) will brick the device.
Not sure if you plan to use any apps that highly depend on a locked bootloader.
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Great and easy to understand reply
If i don't care for other languages, do the Chinese version has English ?! or only Chinese ?!
i can wait till there is an official Global ROM not in rush to install a modified ROM, if then will i be able to update the phone OTA ?!
is there any problem with the phone or everything is working just fine ?!
Appreciate if you can post photos for the box to send it to my friend to get the exact same model
Thanks :good:
Chinesse version also has english language, just ask him to look for sealed box that has not been opened before (wrapped in nylon)
This color is amazing, and yes there is a nice price cut which makes it even better
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Here are the pics of box 8gb 128gb
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Here are the pics of box 8gb 128gb
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Many Thanks, Much appreciated
No mention for device color on the box ?!
And do you recommend getting it and getting the Chinese version ?!
is there any problems with the 4G or Network Signal in general ?!
Easy to check, search for yours and your friend's carrier frequencies for every band, then compare with this site:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...[device_brand_id_eq]=&q[frequency_bands_id_eq
This is a list that shows you which of the frequencies does K20 Pro support.
If you want to know about carriers and their frequency compatibility, go there:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/countries
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is there any problems with the 4G or Network Signal in general ?!
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on the other side of the box there is color name, china ver doesnt support band 20 (800Mhz) 4g frequency. for me its not big deal because my carrier doesnt use it, but in Germany i had trouble sometimes getting 4g in smaller cities.
forgot to mention that indian ver doesnt have nfc
MohamedYousri said:
Great and easy to understand reply
If i don't care for other languages, do the Chinese version has English ?! or only Chinese ?!
i can wait till there is an official Global ROM not in rush to install a modified ROM, if then will i be able to update the phone OTA ?!
is there any problem with the phone or everything is working just fine ?!
Appreciate if you can post photos for the box to send it to my friend to get the exact same model
Thanks :good:
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Yep. China version has two other languages apart from Chinese and English. You'll get OTA's aswell. Just that you'll to have to debloat and Install Google Play and Services manually initially. Too much of Junk comes pre-installed which can be uninstalled easily.
If you're getting the device from MI home or mi.com then nothing to worry as you'll get a sealed device. If your friend orders it online (Ali, gearbest etc) then look for sealed devices in the listing or ask the seller in PM. Most of the sellers online, unlock the devices and flash a fake global rom to be able to sell them globally. There's also an MI official store on Ali, which will give you a sealed device. But, if a MI store is closeby, then nothing like getting in person from there.
I have used this device extensively for the last 2 weeks and i don't see any major challenges. Fantastic VFM device with up to date features. Just minor software bugs that'll iron out with time.
China version has NFC as an added advantage which the India unit misses on. Not sure if the Global units will get it. Another advantage of China model is that it gets you beta access. Beta builds (more stable while still being beta) are still available for China only models while Xiaomi few months back phased out global beta builds to focus on stable channel. Android Q beta is only available for China models as of now.
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Thanks bro, much appreciated
If i got the Chinese version, and Xiaomi released the device in Europe as Mi 9T Pro
Will i be able to convert the phone to the official EU ROM without any problems or need to unlock the bootloader and lose the OTA updates ?!
MohamedYousri said:
If i got the Chinese version, and Xiaomi released the device in Europe as Mi 9T Pro
Will i be able to convert the phone to the official EU ROM without any problems or need to unlock the bootloader and lose the OTA updates ?!
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You'll need an unlocked bootloader to flash the Global Rom (Official or MIUI.Eu) Till the time you're on an Official rom, irrespective of whether it is Chinese or Global, you'll always get OTA's. Just that you can't lock the bootloader of a Chinese device with Global rom on it. Moreover, unlocking the bootloader doesn't effect the OTA updates.
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You'll need an unlocked bootloader to flash the Global Rom (Official or MIUI.Eu) Till the time you're on an Official rom, irrespective of whether it is Chinese or Global, you'll always get OTA's. Just that you can't lock the bootloader of a Chinese device with Global rom on it. Moreover, unlocking the bootloader doesn't effect the OTA updates.
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So i will unlock the bootloader, Flashing the official Global, then use the device as normal without any problems
And the ROM will be intact not a modified one ?
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So i will unlock the bootloader, Flashing the official Global, then use the device as normal without any problems
And the ROM will be intact not a modified one ?
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Your use of the device is subjective. Unlocking the bootloader would show the device as uncertified in the playstore. You can't play FHD Videos in Netflix because your L1 certification would be downgraded. Any pay apps that you might wanna use, GPay etc you won't be able to use that.
All.of the above could have been fixed if Xiaomi didn't probhit people from locking Bootloaders of Chinese variants with global roms. This was possible a year back but it's getting harder day by day.
Band 20 is missing on the China Device. Usually the Global variants would have that. Some countries use that band for VoLTE service, check that with your service provider.
Honestly, I can live w/o all the above because my usage doesn't require them. Not sure about yours.
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Your use of the device is subjective. Unlocking the bootloader would show the device as uncertified in the playstore. You can't play FHD Videos in Netflix because your L1 certification would be downgraded. Any pay apps that you might wanna use, GPay etc you won't be able to use that.
All.of the above could have been fixed if Xiaomi didn't probhit people from locking Bootloaders of Chinese variants with global roms. This was possible a year back but it's getting harder day by day.
Band 20 is missing on the China Device. Usually the Global variants would have that. Some countries use that band for VoLTE service, check that with your service provider.
Honestly, I can live w/o all the above because my usage doesn't require them. Not sure about yours.
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well i don't mind using the Chinese version ROM, i guess it's even better with quick access to updates
but they said that it has a lot of bloatware , is this true ?!
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well i don't mind using the Chinese version ROM, i guess it's even better with quick access to updates
but they said that it has a lot of bloatware , is this true ?!
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Yes it comes with lot of chinese apps that probably rest of the world defines as bloat. Most of them can be directly uninstalled and the rest can be either disabled or uninstalled through adb. You can clean the OS as much as you wish.
Can i flash the Indian Stock Official ROM to Chinese K20 Pro ?!
Which one do you think is better between the two? If my ROM before was QJOEUXM and I flashed the QJOMIXM ROM in my RN9, would it make that much difference?
The clue is in the question
One is for devices sold into European markets, the other for Global (non EU, non Chinese) markets
Mine came with the EU version of MIUI 11 - I couldn't install the Global (non EU) version of MIUI 12, but the EU version installed fine. Phones bought in different regions usually have different regional update channels and do it is here
I don't imagine there would be any meaningful difference at all between the versions, but with only one MIUI device I can't compare. Unless you've rooted your phone I'd expect you will only be able to install the one intended for your region
Correct me if I'm wrong, people!
EU devices can NFC
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EU devices can NFC
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Check your model number
Mine is M2003J15SG
It's a 4/128gb version, was bought within the EU, runs EU ROMs and has NFC
Pretty sure, as I said above, that the global and Chinese phones have different model numbers and different specs (some versions having no NFC chip) running different stock firmware
Seems it's currently limited to CN only.
You can buy 12GB CN version and install any rom on in
CN version does not support 5g with US carriers
CN version hardware does not support 5g in the US
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-11
forum.xda-developers.com
Some stock ROMs have been posted by oppo as part of their rollback guide from android 12 beta.
You can find both the andriod 12 beta OTA updates and full colorOS 11 ROM at https://developers.oppomobile.com/wiki/doc/index#id=91
ROMs are available for these versions:
Find X3 Pro (CPH2173) Taiwan
Find X3 Pro (CPH2173) Australia
Find X3 Pro (CPH2173) Singapore
Find X3 Pro (CPH2173) New Zealand
Find X3 Pro (CPH2173) Switzerland
Does this mean that someone owning a Chinese version can now replace that by a Swiss version?
Bit strange that they are not 'meant' for members of the EU.... Something to do with the more stringent privacy laws there?
What is the difference between these roms? Does it mean we have different hardwares in so called global versions cph2173?
I noticed that my OTA to A17 had 300 MB (phone from Thailand) but for others from France and Spain it was only around 160 MB.
In addition i have dialer/contacts/messaging app from Oppo + AppMarket (ofc Google Play and google services as well) + Theme store...They have google dialer and messaging app, no AppMarket and no Theme Store.
How to install an Ota from Switzerland on a Italian version? It says verification failed
It is anyway a Global version?
For some stupid reason i need to test this because OPPO did not activated 5G in Finland (completely common bands). Madness! In the A.12 firmware 5G was working and then stopped working! I tried the 3 major operators.
mikelsantanen said:
How to install an Ota from Switzerland on a Italian version? It says verification failed
It is anyway a Global version?
For some stupid reason i need to test this because OPPO did not activated 5G in Finland (completely common bands) madness! It the A.12 firmware 5G was working and then stopped working! I tried the 3 major operators.
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You can't unless you unlock bootloader
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What is the difference between these roms? Does it mean we have different hardwares in so called global versions cph2173?
I noticed that my OTA to A17 had 300 MB (phone from Thailand) but for others from France and Spain it was only around 160 MB.
In addition i have dialer/contacts/messaging app from Oppo + AppMarket (ofc Google Play and google services as well) + Theme store...They have google dialer and messaging app, no AppMarket and no Theme Store.
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It is significant difference. E.g. Aussie model is single SIM physically. If you want to use eSIM you have to be certified by Telstra, Optus, Vodafone etc.
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It is significant difference. E.g. Aussie model is single SIM physically. If you want to use eSIM you have to be certified by Telstra, Optus, Vodafone etc.
Regards
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Wtf why? What was the reason to put single sim version on the market there? I dont get it....
The china version of X3 pro got a very different ROM than my Singapore x3 pro.
It will soft brick my CN set and get unknown device issue..
maxellxl said:
What is the difference between these roms? Does it mean we have different hardwares in so called global versions cph2173?
I noticed that my OTA to A17 had 300 MB (phone from Thailand) but for others from France and Spain it was only around 160 MB.
In addition i have dialer/contacts/messaging app from Oppo + AppMarket (ofc Google Play and google services as well) + Theme store...They have google dialer and messaging app, no AppMarket and no Theme Store.
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and including the Italian language?
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and including the Italian language?
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Yes
guys i wanted to try the beta but it tells me verification failed
Find X3 Pro (CPH2173) Singapore
is this the best rom for this device, or i have to install global one
just asking
thank you
is this ROM can be installed on the CN version of device?
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is this ROM can be installed on the CN version of device?
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People say that the Chinese version does not accept any Rom because the partition Oppo made for the Chinese Rom is smaller than the other Roms.
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People say that the Chinese version does not accept any Rom because the partition Oppo made for the Chinese Rom is smaller than the other Roms.
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And there is not a single person who could fix this and normally flash Chinese to the global?
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And there is not a single person who could fix this and normally flash Chinese to the global?
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it's not possible because the problem is hardware
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it's not possible because the problem is hardware
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That is, you want to say that the phone has a separate physical drive for the operating system?
Why then does the phone memory reserve space for the system?
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That is, you want to say that the phone has a separate physical drive for the operating system?
Why then does the phone memory reserve space for the system?
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yeah, its a physical problem
brunolongo said:
yeah, its a physical problem
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Can you find out who and how came to this conclusion? Can I have a source?
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Can you find out who and how came to this conclusion? Can I have a source?
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there is no website talking about it, but people who understand it.
I'm from China, because I need to use google services, our mobile phones issued in China have removed this service, when I installed the GOOGLE service, it seems very unstable, so I need to flash the Chinese version system to the international version 10r system, in addition I ask my good friend to provide me with the download link of the system ROM image under 10r, thank you
The two phones are so similar that you could try it.
But you also can try to flash your realme to the European version or the Indian version. It is obviously more safe.
I may also try to flash my oneplus ace/10r to the realme UI to test compatibility.
Why not buy the Global version in the first place?