I'd like to share this.
My friend uses a Qtek S200, like me.
He drives the mobilhome of Chris Vermeulen(MotoGP) to the GP's in Europe.
Of course he has lots of contacts etc on his Qtek.
After some jogging he threw his shorts on the bathroom floor.
After a while he came back in and asked his wife where his shorts were.
"Euh... in the washing machine?! It's almost finished now after 50 minutes at 60 ºC".
"You removed my phone, didn't you?""
"Euh, no, was it in your shorts?"
"Oh my God!"
He opened the washing machine and grabbed his phone, all the painting was gone, and also the pad around the phone buttons had melted.
He opened the case, removed the battery and dried it with a blower.
After a while he tried to start it. Very slowly the screen came alive. He then immediately looked at his contacts. The contact screen began scrolling like a I-phone on speed,
About half a hour later everything was back to normal exept:
-the camera does nothing
-the first time someone called him he heard a bubbling sound, :-D
-he can't read the SD-card, seems to be dead
At he GP the IT-man opened it up again and sprayed it with contact spray and silicone spray.
All in all he's a lucky guy, he has all his contacts back, of course synched it on his notebook and now he's waiting for his new phone just to be sure in case.
Excellent story. BTW if I might suggest something to everyone else: zipplock bags make cheap waterproof case. Use the freezer bags with "zippers" for extra protection.
LoL indeed an awesome story and very good advice there with the Ziplock bags however for the more extreme (i.e. Someone kayaking or for leaving phone in pants while wife does your washing) person who really likes to have things wet you cant go past a water proof bag from Aquapac.
Here is a link to one of there bags for example
http://store.pressdigital.com.au/aquapac-small-phone-case-aqua110-p-3887.html
Keep it Wet !
Tim
http://www.pressdigital.com.au
Press Digital Support Team
NTS: Advise gf/mother/grandmother to carry out thorough search of all pockets in all articles of clothing prior to carrying out hygienic recycling activities, automated or otherwise.
So some inconsiderate person at work just picks up my phone without asking, and runs her broke-ass fingernails across the screen, BAM! instantly two fine hairline scratches right through the middle, all the way across. ARGG! Is there anyway I can buff these out, or get a new plastic screen?
Scratches...
Always use a screen protector... and don't let women touch your device - women and technology don't mix! (Only joking ladies ).
I found this on eBay - it's really good stuff.
Displex
Hope this helps.
It's probably a little too late, but a screen protector is always a good idea! Once you find out how to get it fixed, I highly recommend using one.
Well, it worked for mine but i still say test, do this:
- Toothpaste, it can be used to sand things with, like shiny plastics
- now, before you put half a tube on it, it would be safer to test first, take a little bit of toothpaste on your finger, little bit of water, mix between 2 fingers, then in circles rub a small corner of your screen, for a few minutes
- if it doesnt get less shiny, you can go rub circles over the scratch, once again a little toothpaste and a little drop of water to mix toothpaste with (makes it easyer to rub bscly)
The above got a nasty (unfortunatlly deep) scratch to be almost invisible when using device (cuz its deep u can still see it when the device is off) on my htc touch diamond, wich i caused the second day i got the device, by having the diamond and its headphones in the same pocket
The mentioned displex is a paste somewhere in between toothpaste and silver-cleaner-stuff, it would most likelly work better then my trick, but hey, maybe you can save yourself a few quids by getting the scratches off for 'free' (assuming you have toothpaste already) i do still advice you to even when you get displex test on a tiny part of a corner first, theres a whole lot of different plastics on phones. you can pick displex up at those phone stores that work with several contracters (orange tmobile etc)
This topic reminded me i didnt try with displex yet btw
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Another thing, screen protectors kinda suck on touch devices, since it reduces the capability to detect touch, always.
Didn't HTC state somewhere that it was amazing scratch proof glass and screen protector was only included out of habit?
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The mentioned displex is a paste somewhere in between toothpaste and silver-cleaner-stuff, it would most likelly work better then my trick, but hey, maybe you can save yourself a few quids by getting the scratches off for 'free' (assuming you have toothpaste already) i do still advice you to even when you get displex test on a tiny part of a corner first, theres a whole lot of different plastics on phones. you can pick displex up at those phone stores that work with several contracters (orange tmobile etc)
This topic reminded me i didnt try with displex yet btw
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Another thing, screen protectors kinda suck on touch devices, since it reduces the capability to detect touch, always.
Didn't HTC state somewhere that it was amazing scratch proof glass and screen protector was only included out of habit?
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Displex is really awesome! Some ime ago i bought it for fixing my Laptop-Screen and even there (on an ASUS Crystal Display) it worked perfectly!
The only negative thing about Displex in my opinion is, that if you are using it too often, the screen will become kinda "unshiny" just like after polishing a car too much.... i noticed that after i used it several times to fix my Samsung D900 Screen
And regarding the screen protector delivered with the devide... I think it is a really good thing! I attached it to my Diamond after one week and didn't notice any differences... it even worked better when using the fingers to tap the screen.
Good advice here....tooth paste is good for removing most of a deep scratch BUT test first....
Displex to get the fine stuff....I would still test this as well, VERY CAREFULLY of course!!
Try this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415933
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Do not use toothpaste unless you test it first. Different toothpastes use different size grit. You may end up causing more problems.
To polish plastics, I use jeweller's rouge. Just rub some on a clean cloth and work away. It's slow but there's les chance of screwing things up.
If it's only a couple of fine scratches that are difficult to see, then leave it. Polishing will change the surface texture so you will need to polish the entire surface, not only the area of the scratches. It's doubtful that you'll find anything to match the original surface.
Hi all,
My new silicon case just arrived.
If you're wondering, or looking, it's this one.
I thought I give a small review
Ordered the case via U-Bop's Amazone shop on dec 10, arrived today dec. 17. Not bad for normal airmail shipping I guess. total price 11,23£ shipping included.
Now, about the case:
Grip feels good, not slippery but the nice feel of rubber but a little smoother.
All cut-outs seem ok, there's enough room in the front for all sensors located around the speaker on the top. I was a bit scared that the bottom "rounding" would interfere when you try to use the hardware keys but that is ok*.
On the left side, where your volume buttons are, the case has a special bevelled surface so you still feel where the buttons are. Very nice touch I think making it easy to find the volume buttons without have to make a cutout for the buttons which would result in another dust-gathering trap
The down side of things then: although the case is advertised as being "skin-tight" and "form-fitting" the truth is: it sits to loosely to my liking. I would think that if you make something that is supposed to be form-fitting and skin-tight etc then it would need at least some effort to slip my HD2 in there and it would be as tight as .... well think "men in tights" (was the first thing that slipped in my mind) ...
Honestly. I think if I drop my phone it would be well protected for the first bounce.... but I'm scared it might just be thrown out of the case on impact!
It just feels a bit to 'light' and not much of the tight etc is noticeable.
Another small think I immediately notices was that the moment I had slipped it on and carried it around for a few hours in my pocket, dust appeared out of nowhere, clinging on to my screen where I had never seen it before?!? Strange as I always carry it in my pocket and I can't really remember ever having dust there that clearly... I'll see if that clears after a few days use.
I took some pictures and a small movie to give a general idea of what I mean.
So overal:
the PRO's
- good feel
- anti slip
- drop protection (100% for the first impact... guess % goes down with each consecutive bounce )
- all sensors, camera, flash leds, 3.5mm jack and micro USB are reachable
- volume keys can still be located through touch feeling
- cheap
the CONS
- not at all skin tight as advertised
- dust-magnet?
hope you liked the review. I'm interested en opinions of people using other types of silicon cases that do feel skin tight and secure so let me know what you have!
link to youtube for the movie : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ3fMmOg-zs
Thanks for the review. It looks cool for the most part other than it's not skin tight...
To be honest, I'm getting more and more dissatisfied by the day
Taking the phone out of the pocket is a sure way to get at least 1 corner of the silicone case dislodged from the phone. Sometimes even the two top corners come off so you end up fetching the phone without case
And I can also confirm that the case is a dust magnet in the meantime... so no good there either...
I think I will be filing for the 14 day money back guarantee on this one and trying another one...
DicE
galaxys said:
Thanks for the review. It looks cool for the most part other than it's not skin tight...
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Yep I'd have to agree 100% with your review, bought one of these cases on ebay and initially thought it was good, but as you say it's not skin tight it's more "underpants tight"...so the case does come off sometimes when you take the phone out of your pocket as it sticks to your pocket...and if you are looking for a static dust magnet this wouldn't go amiss...
Just an idea guys, but does silicone shrink when exposed to heat? If so, you could try bathing it in hot water to shrink it a little... ?
Grtz
Lukas
shrink? you sure about that? Haven't tried that.
case could do with a wash though since it has been sucking in dust like a black whole for the past couple of days so... let me give that a try
If we're sure of one thing then it's that it wont break the case
DicE
Lukasss said:
Just an idea guys, but does silicone shrink when exposed to heat? If so, you could try bathing it in hot water to shrink it a little... ?
Grtz
Lukas
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DicEvsTytnII said:
shrink? you sure about that? Haven't tried that.
case could do with a wash though since it has been sucking in dust like a black whole for the past couple of days so... let me give that a try
If we're sure of one thing then it's that it wont break the case
DicE
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Did you try it? Coz now I'm curious myself...
Lukasss said:
Just an idea guys, but does silicone shrink when exposed to heat? If so, you could try bathing it in hot water to shrink it a little... ?
Grtz
Lukas
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I very much doubt it will shrink. They use silicone like this as baking trays!!
I'm on holiday at the seaside, with my (at times utterly annoying) girlfriend, and when I get to escape for a couple hours of snorkeling around the coast I miss the opportunity to record videos, and maybe a GPS track of my swimming path, other than obviously having the possibility to make and receive calls, which can be a very useful thing while being alone in the aquatic wilderness.
Anyway, I tried the banal search for "waterproof hd2" on google, and the best I came up with is a "Dry Case" container, no more than a PVC bag with a waterproof sealing, and complimentary waterproof stereo jack and a nice vacuum pump plug to make the device stay put inside the case. Cost, 40USD for two sheets of plastic and some more components of plastic yet. Since there are apparently no waterproof tight "hard cases" (and otrageously expensive at that) like the ones they make for some portable compact cameras, I thought I might as well search for supercheap chinese alternatives on ebay, and there are several alternatives of which this one looks best (or least bad) to me. None of them have a waterproof stereo jack plug (but who's going to listen to music underwater anyway, let alone talk at the phone in the same condition), nor the vacuum pump plug, which instead is a very useful addition in my opinion (yet on the other side, the PVC sheet has more strain by being repeatedly sucked against the device surface and adapting to its borders).
I know the usual reasonable arguments like "why entrusting your multihundred euros device to a couple dollars case", but after all it was HTC itself the first to sell a phone which shipped at 630euro here in italy on the release date (sums up to ~800USD), WITHOUT any lanyard hook, and I am efficiently entrusting the freefall safety of this phone to a virtually zero cost hack with a normal lanyard and some adhesive tape under the metal cover (it saved me from at least 2 falls, both at elbow -thus deadly- height).
I am going to buy such a case anyway, since a couple of euros are not going to kill my finances, and will obviously test it with a nokia 3310 first to make sure, and then with a cheap digital camera, yet I'd like to have your opinions or experiences on this matter, before I can produce them myself, as it will take at least a month before I get my case shipped from China, and maybe a year before I can actually test it in a proper seaside vacation, since this one will be over in a week, and I won't be going elsewhere sea-ish before 2011.
Up.
The waterproof case came in today, more than 3 weeks later, but I got lucky as the standard shipping time from china to italy is 1 month.
Bottom line: TOO TIGHT!
I cannot even fit in the HD2, I pushed it as I could through the first sealing closure, but when it got to the second sealing closure it stopped, and I fear to either tear the plastic, or excercise too much strngth and have the HD2 be bulleted far away blowing to pieces.
Curious, as the description says it's 15x9cm, while even including the sealed borders, the width of the thing is 8cm.
I thought that the phone in there would have been to instable, on the contrary! Bah. Let's see in the seller will give me a refund or something, I couldn't even fit my Coolpix S52 in there.
EDIT: won by the curiosity, I pushed away, and the HD2 finally fitted inside. If it wasn't a 2 minutes long procedure each way, the tight fit would be a pro. Anyway, the transparent window thought for the camera lens is too low and partially covers the objective, so only half of the viewport is actually visible, being the other half dark. Overall, still useless, and I somewhat scratched the screen protector while forcing the way out.
Wait... How will you use your phone underwater?
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Wait... How will you use your phone underwater?
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the touch screen works perfectly even with the plastic on it.
The phone underwater? Isn't it cool to track your swimming path with GPS, record videos and take pictures, and be able to make emergency calls should it be needed? And tons of other stuff, too.
I'd be surprised if you get a gps fix with even a thin layer of salt water above your telephone.
you cant get GPS signal inside water, I watched a YouTube video on a waterproof Garmin device when it was put in the water, it lost all GPS satellites
hello ,
i have a otterbox 1900 , it s full waterproof and Shockproof .
i sell it with VTT support : http://htc-touch-hd.forumactif.biz/...tt-moto-otterbox-etanche-resistant-t27426.htm
the normal price for it is 120 euros , i sell it for 60 without shipping .
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I'd be surprised if you get a gps fix with even a thin layer of salt water above your telephone.
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you cant get GPS signal inside water, I watched a YouTube video on a waterproof Garmin device when it was put in the water, it lost all GPS satellites
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this changes things, as GPS was one of the main reasons to bring the phone with me while at sea. I mean, not the only one, as recording underwater videos still rocks, and GSM signal should be available underwater too (I don't do scuba, just your ordinary 4-5m occasional dives while holding my breath). Anyway, I'd be snorkeling on top on the water most of the time.
Anyway, I'll look into it more.
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hello ,
i have a otterbox 1900 , it s full waterproof and Shockproof .
i sell it with VTT support : http://htc-touch-hd.forumactif.biz/...tt-moto-otterbox-etanche-resistant-t27426.htm
the normal price for it is 120 euros , i sell it for 60 without shipping .
mail : [email protected]
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that's an interesting price indeed, even if I wouldn't be able to quite use the phone at its best with that. I am not the extreme bike-hike kind of guy, so the phone wouldn't be really in the risk of being dropped, I just would like to be able to use GSM, GPS (ok maybe not that one in light of what it's bene said here) and especially camera while underwater. Portability is not a big issue and the bulky size of the otterbox is not the matter, but I am not too sure otterbox can work up to 10mt underwater, rather than being just "splashes or 10cm waterproof", and what's more important, the back is not transparent so I woudln't be able to record videos
Would it have been otherwise, you would have found a potential buyer
With a huge delay of about 42 days, the last one of the waterproof cases I ordered arrived, it's the last one linked from the first post, and it finally keep its promises regarding the sizes, it's indeed very large, and the transparent rear window is perfect to have the HD2 record the video; you can use the phone with a protective film and the waterproof case on it, just make sure the case plastic is well adhered on the proximity sensor or it will trigger it (I have S2U2 set to turn off display on proximity active).
I will be testing the case at home leaving it underwater for some time, and after that I will probably publish a review on my website
Interested
I, too, am pursuing a similar case primarily for canoeing. I own the Otterbox Defender case which serves its purpose very well but is not waterproof. Currently, I have to move it in and out of my larger dry bag when I want to use it. I found the otterbox 1900 for $25, but it will not allow me to shoot video without removing the case. You are not the only one out there looking for a solution. I look forward to reading your results.
Thanks for stirring up this surprisingly lazy thread, I would imagine shooting videos underwater or carelessly at the seaside would be of more interest to a lot of people
Anyway I tested the second case, and DAM, water came inside
This is my test setup:
put a piece of toilet paper inside the pouch
close the pouch seals
fill a bucket with water
station the case at the bottom of the bucket with a weight on it to keep it down
wait at least 24hrs, the more the better
take out the case and check the toilet paper for moisture
The very first case stayed succesfully underwater for 3 days and no water whatsoeger came in (but it was too small for the hd2 anyway, so doesn't matter), while I decided to test the second one in harder conditions: closed the seals without folding them in and close the velcro... water almost filled the case. I was disappointed, this shouldn't have happened as the velcro is there just for conveniency and has no sealing capabilities; so I tested again, more careful to close the seals (which are somewhat harder to fit than in the first case) and then closed the velcro... stayed under for alittle more than a day, but a few drops of water came in... contacted the seller, got a refund. I bought another identical case with the promise that they will check it before shipping, chinese sellers are the best
Solution
I look forward to hearing the solution if a suitable one is found. Good luck.
I'd love a good case for canoeing as well. let us know if you find anything, and thanks for sharing so far!
I have the second case STILL on the way, anyway I checked better the first one, and it actually works :-|
I apparently asked for a refund on a working item... anyway it IS hard to make working, as the sealing lines must be thoroughly pressed and you've got to make sure there is nothing left open especially on the extremities. A simple way to check if you closed it well is to leave it slightly bulgind with air inside, and try to squeeze it, if you cannot hear air flowing out it's fine to go. In fact, after checking no air cameout, I sent it under the bucket for another test run for 2-3 days, and no water came in.
I suppose the most delicate moment is when you take the phone OUT of the case, as the water drops still hanging around the rims may wet it.
If me and my gf last long enough for me to go at hers at the beautiful seaside of southern Italy, I should be testing it snorkeling this next summer
i use some general transparent plastic bag. it does its job very well, put the hd2 in, tie the plastic up, and ready to go!!
one thing
-the touch screen don't work underwater
-there is no signal underwater
-water is very good cooler, the batt cover get cool as soon as you use the hd2 underwater
a13x4nd3r said:
i use some general transparent plastic bag. it does its job very well, put the hd2 in, tie the plastic up, and ready to go!!
one thing
-the touch screen don't work underwater
-there is no signal underwater
-water is very good cooler, the batt cover get cool as soon as you use the hd2 underwater
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heh's that's surely bold of you
I mean, that works as long as the plastic bag has no holes, I just would be scared of it being teared apart on the rocks or random garbage floating around when you're snorkeling.
Regarding the touch screen, I never tried it myself, yet the screen does work when inside the thik waterproof case I bought, and in several occasions I got to using the touchscreen with very wet fingers, effectively activating it with a thin layer of water under my skin, so well, if actually the touchscreen doesn't work underwater, that's going to be a huge problem as I need that mostly to shoot videos
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heh's that's surely bold of you
I mean, that works as long as the plastic bag has no holes, I just would be scared of it being teared apart on the rocks or random garbage floating around when you're snorkeling.
Regarding the touch screen, I never tried it myself, yet the screen does work when inside the thik waterproof case I bought, and in several occasions I got to using the touchscreen with very wet fingers, effectively activating it with a thin layer of water under my skin, so well, if actually the touchscreen doesn't work underwater, that's going to be a huge problem as I need that mostly to shoot videos
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just be brave and optimistic, if you are to scared you can just double or triple the plastic bag, as the plastic bag is transparent.
i havent been to beach since i have my hd2, i just try it at bathub in my home, the touch screen don't work at all, so if you want to stop recording you have to pull the phone up and press the stop button
thanks alexander, your input has been dramatically useful, really.
It's so obvious that I never actually thought of it, it's the cheapest of the solutions ever, and especially for me since my mother keeps stacking tons of transparent food plastic bags wherver she finds available space
Obviously with a simple plastic bag you don't get a re-useable case, as untightening the knot everytime makes it prone to get teared, and you don't get a lanyard because I don't see how you could attach one on a plastic bag in a satisfasctory safe manner, yet it's free VS paid, and you can't beat that
A word of warning with taking stuff in "sealed" containers into water. Those little free dives you do down 5-6 feet are one of the larger changes in pressure your container will experience so testing it in 6" water in a bath is nothing like the pressure it will experience at 6'.
Secondly, most "sealed" containers are fine at static pressures but fail when they encounter dynamic pressures such as when you jump from the back of a boat or off a jetty so be careful to make entry to the water as gently as possible unless the container is rated for depths greater than 3 atmospheres, (100')...
Yes, I'm a diver...
If you go to most large discount stores (Wal-Mart in my case)...look for a vacuum food sealer.
The kit comes with different sized bags (which can also be cut down to various sizes) and a countertop vacuum sealer unit.
Place your phone in one of the bags and cut it to size leaving a good 2" of room around each side, then just vacuum seal it. The phone works perfect and the bags are meant for freezer storage...so they are pretty thick and the unit makes an air tight seal
If you want, you can even punch a hole in one (or two) of the outside corners (outside the seal of course) and attach a string (or lanyard..shoelace..whatever) so you can wear your phone around your neck.
We have a swimming pool in our back yard and I have used my phone in the pool using these. I usually always do this to my HD2 and my wifes Vibrant when we are in the back yard with a lot of people (never know when a kid is going to go under, or a drunk friend is going to try and push you in)
I got the idea when we went to SeaWorld and saw a kiosk where they were charging people $15.00 to do this to their phones.
As the poster above me says to be a diver...im not going to argue with him at all, our pool only goes to 4-1/2 feet deep. so I would probably listen to him about the depth preasure information...but if you are just hanging out on the beach or in very shallow water, its a great way to keep your phone dry and still be able to use it.
Cheers