Note 9 N9600 or N960FD etc for UK use - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

Hi everyone,
I'm due to upgrade my phone and really keen on the note 9 but to buy in the UK it is costly. I'm looking at buying from the EU but there's a variety of model types with subtle differences in bands.
Please would someone be able to advise me whether for example N9600 or N960FD would be fully compatible with the UK networks?
The N9600 appears to be fully compatible with UK bands but I'm new to buying non UK phones.
Plus if they're both compatible, would one be better than the other?
Thanks in advance

Androiduk2018 said:
Hi everyone,
I'm due to upgrade my phone and really keen on the note 9 but to buy in the UK it is costly. I'm looking at buying from the EU but there's a variety of model types with subtle differences in bands.
Please would someone be able to advise me whether for example N9600 or N960FD would be fully compatible with the UK networks?
The N9600 appears to be fully compatible with UK bands but I'm new to buying non UK phones.
Plus if they're both compatible, would one be better than the other?
Thanks in advance
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Hey, I got the N960F/DS off Ebay for £719, think it is even cheaper now, got it from Switzerland, ordered last Wednesday night about 22:00 and it arrived Monday morning. I will get the link for you now
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Sams...var=601774672008&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
I highly recommend them, unless you find a cheaper option.
Oh, and yeah it works fine haha, I'm on o2, but obviously if it works on there it will work on all. It is also worth mentioning that if you are accepted for paypal credit, you can get it from the link I gave with 4 months %0 interest too

Great to hear. The price is great. Did it come with a UK quick charger?

Androiduk2018 said:
Great to hear. The price is great. Did it come with a UK quick charger?
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Just found this from the same people lol, even cheaper And no it has a foreign charger but they include an adaptor which does work fine and fast charge too, also, if you like, I can give you the voucher code they sent me for a further $10 off, so that's like another £7 ish.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Sams...m=601774672002&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

beta546 said:
Just found this from the same people lol, even cheaper And no it has a foreign charger but they include an adaptor which does work fine and fast charge too, also, if you like, I can give you the voucher code they sent me for a further $10 off, so that's like another £7 ish.
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Yes please, thanks

oh and although the ebay seller I believe is based in china, the phone does come from Switzerland as I said, it got from there to Manchester in about 16 hours...…..Manchester to blackpool…...4 days But still good from abroad, and it came a day earlier than the estimated delivery too.
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Androiduk2018 said:
Yes please, thanks
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I will get it later as it is in the phones box at my girlfriend's, I will be back there about 8 tonight and will PM you the code. Can't believe it has gone down by £30 in less than a week. I wouldn't wait too long though as it looks like they don't have too many left.

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Hey mate, sorry I think I must have chucked the voucher away with the delivery box and other junk

Have a look on www1.techinthebasket.com - I picked up my previous Note 8 SM-N950F/DS for £633 back in October last year. It was a Taiwan model (BRI) but picked up XEU / BTU CSC when I put my O2 SIM in it and it worked flawlessly. They have Note 9's in now for good prices as well. They only accept PayPal so you're covered. I also picked up a Surface Pro 4 from them a couple of years ago and saved over £200. Well worth a try.

Nice suggestion, thanks

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Nice suggestion, thanks
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Ah, looks like they've only got the Snapdragon version in at the moment - £880 for the SD 512GB/8GB and £629 to £679 dependant on colour for the SD 128GB/6GB is still pretty damn good. Keep checking though, they did have the Exynos versions in for around the same price a few days ago...

Really good prices.
The only thing that's holding me back is to wait for the pixel 3xl. If some of the rumours are true about the Iarge screen, then I might go pixel, but other say it's only 6.1" and has a notch which renders it even smaller when watching film properly.
Thanks for the input so far. Note 9 is in number one spot, just need to compare to the pixel to firm up the choice

The N9600 probably won't work with some UK Cell Providers. You are better off getting the N960FD as that is a GSM device.

Don't think volte or WiFi calling works

iceepyon said:
The N9600 probably won't work with some UK Cell Providers. You are better off getting the N960FD as that is a GSM device.
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nathlynn22 said:
Don't think volte or WiFi calling works
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Correct. So far

beta546 said:
Hey, I got the N960F/DS off Ebay for £719, think it is even cheaper now, got it from Switzerland, ordered last Wednesday night about 22:00 and it arrived Monday morning. I will get the link for you now
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Sams...var=601774672008&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
I highly recommend them, unless you find a cheaper option.
Oh, and yeah it works fine haha, I'm on o2, but obviously if it works on there it will work on all. It is also worth mentioning that if you are accepted for paypal credit, you can get it from the link I gave with 4 months %0 interest too
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Nice find!
After reading the listing it doesn’t state anything about It having a year warranty with them instead they’ll only replace if the device is faulty within the first 30 days.... risky?!! ? .... Just checked again it doesn’t come with any warranty.... ?
Plus if you use the CODE: PERKS on eBay you get a further £50 off... Very tempting stuff

If the pixel 3xl is a bit underwhelming, I'd rather buy a note 9 with a warranty even if it costs more. Having had LG phone issues, I don't want the risk

GaryLe85 said:
Nice find!
After reading the listing it doesn’t state anything about It having a year warranty with them instead they’ll only replace if the device is faulty within the first 30 days.... risky?!! ? .... Just checked again it doesn’t come with any warranty....
Plus if you use the CODE: PERKS on eBay you get a further £50 off... Very tempting stuff
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Why would they offer you a warranty? It's a brand new phone, it's under warranty with Samsung.

beta546 said:
Why would they offer you a warranty? It's a brand new phone, it's under warranty with Samsung.
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As stated on Samsung's website.
European
Consumers who are using a product in a country in the European Economic Area and Switzerland (“Europe”) which was first purchased in another country in Europe can obtain warranty services. The period of the warranty and the warranty service provided will be those of the country in Europe where the warranty claim is made.
Please note that this is a voluntary manufacturer’s warranty and provides rights in addition to, and does not affect statutory rights of end users. When you buy a non-European device, it is not covered under our European Warranty Policy. In that regard, when making a purchase please do check that the device is a European model.
Promotions extending or enhancing the terms of the limited manufacturer’s warranty are country specific and cannot be claimed in countries other than the promoting country.

GaryLe85 said:
As stated on Samsung's website.
European
Consumers who are using a product in a country in the European Economic Area and Switzerland (“Europe”) which was first purchased in another country in Europe can obtain warranty services. The period of the warranty and the warranty service provided will be those of the country in Europe where the warranty claim is made.
Please note that this is a voluntary manufacturer’s warranty and provides rights in addition to, and does not affect statutory rights of end users. When you buy a non-European device, it is not covered under our European Warranty Policy. In that regard, when making a purchase please do check that the device is a European model.
Promotions extending or enhancing the terms of the limited manufacturer’s warranty are country specific and cannot be claimed in countries other than the promoting country.
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Oh well haha, has anyone in the world ever actually needed a warranty? I certainly haven't ? It's like insurance, even if you try to claim on it, the odds of them paying out to you are so slim it's hardly worth bothering. It's also another price you pay for getting something significantly cheaper than in your own country, right now they're selling that phone over £200 cheaper than anywhere in this country, if you're so worried, take that 200 and buy insurance, or open a premium bank account for like £11 a month that offers you full mobile phone insurance like my girlfriend has, she can essentially just launch her phone at the wall and they'll pay out for a replacement ?

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Oh well haha, has anyone in the world ever actually needed a warranty? I certainly haven't It's like insurance, even if you try to claim on it, the odds of them paying out to you are so slim it's hardly worth bothering. It's also another price you pay for getting something significantly cheaper than in your own country, right now they're selling that phone over £200 cheaper than anywhere in this country, if you're so worried, take that 200 and buy insurance, or open a premium bank account for like £11 a month that offers you full mobile phone insurance like my girlfriend has, she can essentially just launch her phone at the wall and they'll pay out for a replacement
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Believe it or not i had an issue with my S8 plus (Snapdragon 835 variant) a year ago (screen issue) used it for about 8 months, it took about a month to resolve but ended up getting a refund instead lol
I know what your saying, looks like I'll just go with WondaMobile instead of eBay, that way my mind will be at ease
Btw hows your battery life on your model? I'm still undecided whether to go with the SD 845 or Exynos 9810.. I had the S9 plus with the 9810 and the battery life wasn't great (3.5hr SOT) with 15-16hrs usage consistently, ended up selling it to my bro ?

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Where to buy?!?!

Okay...I've been drooling over this phone for the past few weeks. I'm almost ready to pull the trigger...but I'm looking for the least expensive but most reputable online dealer to make my purchase. I'm in the USA so it would have to be imported.
Suggestions? Experiences? Warranty issues? I'm all ears. Let me know what your experience has been with the different online retailers.
Cheers!
Trey
eBay you can find them as low as 590 used but new ones run about 650
stefan.buddle said:
eBay you can find them as low as 590 used but new ones run about 650
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Good Point! eBay is probably the one place I haven't looked! Thanks man!
Amazon has a few sellers offering them for around 650. they're also fulfillment so you get free 2 day shipping.
I'm also getting ready to pull the trigger.
If you're just looking for a cheap price, eBay has Australian Notes on sale, which I think is the cheapest of them all due to currency fluctuations.
Anybody know of a seller that does international shipping that has a REALLY lenient return policy? I tend to have horrible luck with displays and don't want to get stuck with one with defects (I once had to return five LCD monitors in a row because each one had more than two dead/stuck pixels! Also, my current Cellphone, a Streak, has an always-on stuck red pixel).
Given the fact that AMOLED screens slowly develop defects, I would really like to find a seller that offers 14+ day return policy with little or no expense on my part, in case I end up making multiple returns.
I found this in another thread but Integrontech has them for $650 also. Here's the link: http://www.integrontech.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-N7000-16GB-Unlocked-Black-p/sam-n7000.htm
I've never used them...so I'm not sure how reputable they are.
I did buy my i9100 from expansys USA and it was perfect! Fast shipping. Never had any trouble with the hardware...so I never dealt with the warranty part. But my experience with them was very good.
Might pay to be a little more patient, I'm thinkin' there will be at least another 50 drop post Christmas.
Just a thought and I could be wrong so...
Be nice to use that extra savings towards accessories though IMHO
When I first started lookin' I couldn't find one below 730.00 so if I can get one for six I can that custom leather case I want and break even there.
treylemkn said:
I found this in another thread but Integrontech has them for $650 also. Here's the link: http://www.integrontech.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-N7000-16GB-Unlocked-Black-p/sam-n7000.htm
I've never used them...so I'm not sure how reputable they are.
I did buy my i9100 from expansys USA and it was perfect! Fast shipping. Never had any trouble with the hardware...so I never dealt with the warranty part. But my experience with them was very good.
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I ordered from them. Fast and no problems
From my kick-ass note
seriously dude i'm in the same boat but it's just the smart bet to wait until it is around 550-600
the price is dropping everyday pretty freaking fast.
take a look if you don't beleive me >>
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Unlocked-Android-Smartphone/product/B0061YRDX6
Paid $699 yesterday from Newegg.
I sure hope my ATT plan doesn't have issues like everyone else is reporting (forcing a tablet plan, forcing tiered data, etc).
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Amazon is selling them for $639 shipped.
inurb said:
Amazon is selling them for $639 shipped.
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Hello! Link please
I've got friends who would buy this for me in either India or Australia.
Where would I have either one of them shop in their respective countries to get me one? Is it worth it, plus shipping, or should I just drop $650 on Ebay? I mean, from what I saw the exchange rate, 35,000 Indian Rupees (MSRP) is $660.
Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Unlocked Cellphone--US Warranty (Blue)
(made in korea by samsung )
(this phone got no problem with screen!)
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-GT-N7...QL30/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1324089027&sr=8-4
what the hell is blue version ?
I see amazon is listed as an official vendor which makes me curious.
+ there is no warranty on international phones imported to U.S. because the official U.S. versions are the ones sold by the damn carriers via at&t , verizon etc.
There once was a note...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x430XNZhnWs
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Amazon is selling them for $639 shipped.
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Yeah, I saw that, but the arrival date was in 2012.
Newegg had free 2-day shipping (shoprunner free year trial) and I had a $20 coupon from google.
So, $679 and I'll have it Monday. Plus there is a free charger thingy thrown in, so that's a plus.
I just really hope my unlimited data isn't f-d around with after putting my sim in...
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avetny said:
Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Unlocked Cellphone--US Warranty (Blue)
(made in korea by samsung )
(this phone got no problem with screen!)
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-GT-N7...QL30/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1324089027&sr=8-4
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Doesn't the GT prefix indicate the IMEI will be considered a tablet? Some listings omit the GT prefix...I think these are the Polish/Netherland version that doesn't flag ATT as a tablet...
Hmmm...it appears the white one is going for $800 still, while the black(ish) one is $650ish. I'm debating on importing 5 or 6 of these to see if I can pay for mine.
Thoughts?
treylemkn said:
Hello! Link please
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Here you go:
www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Unloc..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1324094209&sr=1-1
I got mine from the same seller on Amazon and the phone is great.
I got mine from ATGSM and was happy with the delivery expediency
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US AT&T use; Where did U Buy? Any Warranty? Difference in UPDATES from diff regions?

US AT&T use; Where did U Buy? Any Warranty? Difference in UPDATES from diff regions?
I notices there are two different re-sellers on Amazon.com. One advertises "US Warranty" but I found out it is only 90 days. I assume these come from two different regions.
Simplyelectronics has the best price. They ship from Hong Kong (I think). So I assume this device is for China region? They also say one year warranty, shipped back to Hong Kong.
My questions are:
Best place to purchase with warranty? Where did U purchase; does it have and warranty at all?
Any difference when getting firmware updates depending on where it was made for?
Better to buy one for Germany, Poland, China, etc?
Will AT&T device, when it ships, have remarkably more features?
lightfire said:
I notices there are two different re-sellers on Amazon.com. One advertises "US Warranty" but I found out it is only 90 days. I assume these come from two different regions.
Simplyelectronics has the best price. They ship from Hong Kong (I think). So I assume this device is for China region? They also say one year warranty, shipped back to Hong Kong.
My questions are:
Best place to purchase with warranty? Where did U purchase; does it have and warranty at all?
Any difference when getting firmware updates depending on where it was made for?
Better to buy one for Germany, Poland, China, etc?
Will AT&T device, when it ships, have remarkably more features?
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I bought mine at Handtec in UK. I got the Note the next day. They do honor Samsung's 24 month warranty (you need to send the unit to them and they deal with the warranty). You can ask them directly. Very good customer service.
Not too sure about warranty for mine, but I bought mine off of one of the Amazon re-sellers. Mine came from Germany and had the most current (KK9/KK5/2.3.6) build. No issues with it whatsoever. Flawless screen. No threatening letters, texts, or emails from AT&T thinking it's a tablet and such. Just a great device!
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Not too sure about warranty for mine, but I bought mine off of one of the Amazon re-sellers. Mine came from Germany and had the most current (KK9/KK5/2.3.6) build. No issues with it whatsoever. Flawless screen. No threatening letters, texts, or emails from AT&T thinking it's a tablet and such. Just a great device!
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Ordered mine via Amazon....probably the same reseller...Germany it appears.
"suppose" to be here Friday, but with the Christmas being so close, I don't expect it until Tuesday the 27th.
got it from amazon. i don't know how to read european languages but the non-english manual says 'Dutch' at the back (mind my stupidity). prly warranty doesn't exist but oh well...should keep it safe. ordered smoe cases n attached screen protector. just make sure to get it from a seller with good ratings and avoid places like ebay.
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Will AT&T device, when it ships, have remarkably more features?
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http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-note-detailed-for-att-4g-lte
at least from my understanding, it's similar to Korean version, replacing exynos with snapdragon for 4G LTE capability...but functionality-wise I doubt it just as how SII didn't have feature differences other than a modified hardware design.
Best option is to buy from ebay or amazon (depending on the price) and buy a 2-year warranty from squaretrade for about $70.
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someone posted the square trade doesn't cover amazon bought cell phones. can anyone confirm this?
deymayor said:
Best option is to buy from ebay or amazon (depending on the price) and buy a 2-year warranty from squaretrade for about $70.
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I bought one off of eBay and the SquareTrade warranty was $120 for 2 years $80 for 1.
http://www.safeware.com/
This is what they told me:
Thank you for contacting Safeware. To insure your smartphone for one year the annual premium is $98.00 , in States there is a policy fee of 10% or $10.00 which ever is the least amount. Our policy covers against accidental damages, liquid spills and theft. If you decide you would like to purchase a policy I will need the date of purchase, the serial number, the amount you paid for the phone and your credit card information. You do not need to send a receipt of purchase at this time but if you have a claim you will need to fax the receipt at that time. If you want to purchase the policy over the phone below is my contact information.
They also have a two year for 78 but it doesn't include theft
Bought mine from Amazon from reseller TRD-Trading GmbH (Global Mobiles) No idea if they will honor the warranty or not. I hope so. Any one else buy from them and know? The Note was packaged perfectly, the screen is great. No issues at all. Came with instruction on how to change the Notes language from German to English.
Namuh said:
Bought mine from Amazon from reseller TRD-Trading GmbH (Global Mobiles) No idea if they will honor the warranty or not. I hope so. Any one else buy from them and know? The Note was packaged perfectly, the screen is great. No issues at all. Came with instruction on how to change the Notes language from German to English.
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I ought from them too, should be arriving today too
k1ng617 said:
I bought one off of eBay and the SquareTrade warranty was $120 for 2 years $80 for 1.
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You shouldv'e purchased the warranty directy from Squaretrade. you will provide the item number and apply INTRODUCTION promo code for a 20% discount. $71 for 2 years.
p51d007 said:
Ordered mine via Amazon....probably the same reseller...Germany it appears.
"suppose" to be here Friday, but with the Christmas being so close, I don't expect it until Tuesday the 27th.
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You should probably make that the 28th, I ordered it on the 21st and was supposed to get it today (in the UK) but the courier says Amazon.de hasn't even sent it to them.
Bought mine from Expansys USA and got my insurance from Ensquared. Called them up before I did anything and they said they covered it no problem as long as I kept the receipt.
Not sure about updates because the second I got my note, i rooted and put custom roms on it.
Namuh said:
Bought mine from Amazon from reseller TRD-Trading GmbH (Global Mobiles) No idea if they will honor the warranty or not. I hope so. Any one else buy from them and know? The Note was packaged perfectly, the screen is great. No issues at all. Came with instruction on how to change the Notes language from German to English.
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Got mine from them as well. $3.99 overnight Prime shipping. Sealed box and a perfect unit.
Make no mistake, there is no warranty in the US with these phones. Any other listing suggesting so is not correct.
k1ng617 said:
I bought one off of eBay and the SquareTrade warranty was $120 for 2 years $80 for 1.
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You shouldv'e purchased the warranty directy from Squaretrade. you will provide the item number and apply INTRODUCTION promo code for a 20% discount. $71 for 2 years.
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Thanks, I actually didn't purchase the warranty, but that promo code makes it a little more palatable; the warranty for two years came out to be $99.20. This does not include accidental damage, just manufacturer defects and normal "wear and tear" whatever that means.
Still not totally sure if that is worth it; I'd prefer something with accidental damage/water dmg/theft etc.
jojorios said:
Bought mine from Expansys USA and got my insurance from Ensquared. Called them up before I did anything and they said they covered it no problem as long as I kept the receipt.
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Any idea if they will cover a "Like New" eBay purchase?
Sorry, to replay to my own post, but I had a chat with an Ensquared advisor and here's the conversation:
ensquared: Hi, how may I help you today?
you: Hi I just made a purchase on eBay for a "Like New" android smartphone
you: I was wondering if ensquared covered such items?
ensquared: Unfortunately, we can only cover brand new phones that are within 90 days from the time they were purchased.
I ordered mine from Amazon from TechkingUSA LLC, it was on my prime account and was fulfilled by Amazon, so I'm not sure who I really got it from of the two, be for I ordered I email and received a response that the warranty length was the original manufactures warranty. hope I never have to use it but as far as I know Amazon is backing it so it should be good.6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20576752#post20576752

Better to buy "new" international version or refurbished from Best Buy?

So I got one on amazon that was supposed to be new and a us warrantied model.
Turns out it's not a us model. Also the box wasn't sealed and Sony says that the warranty info says it would expire over a month prior to a year past my purchase date... indicating to them that it has been previously activated.
I noticed best buy occasionally has them refurbished with a 90 day geek squad warranty.
Any thoughts on which is the better option?
Thanks in adavance
I wouldn't buy a refurbished phone, but that's just me. Too bad you can't get the US version sold by Amazon anymore, and too bad that seller shafted you - looks like they are the only NEW seller on Amazon currently.
Do you have any international sellers in mind? Perhaps depending on the vendor, you could at least have some kind of return option for the worst case scenario of a DOA phone.
I hope you can get this all resolved. And partly because I'm hoping you'll share the exact steps you take to get root/fingerprint/t-mo all working on the phone so I can replicate it. Good luck.
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I wouldn't buy a refurbished phone, but that's just me. Too bad you can't get the US version sold by Amazon anymore, and too bad that seller shafted you - looks like they are the only NEW seller on Amazon currently.
Do you have any international sellers in mind? Perhaps depending on the vendor, you could at least have some kind of return option for the worst case scenario of a DOA phone.
I hope you can get this all resolved. And partly because I'm hoping you'll share the exact steps you take to get root/fingerprint/t-mo all working on the phone so I can replicate it. Good luck.
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I'm sort of leaning towards the international one, but i have my doubts that this one they sent me is new. I should have no problem flashing the modified firmware to keep the fingerprint sensor and enable wifi calling/vo-lte. I just worry about the battery lifespan mostly.
Regardless by the time I'm finished unlocking and rooting I won't be sending it in to sony for any repairs.
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I'm sort of leaning towards the international one, but i have my doubts that this one they sent me is new...... I just worry about the battery lifespan mostly.
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I would feel exactly the same. The battery unknown is a big reason why I would avoid refurbed phones. Even though you bought from a 3rd party on Amazon, you should have some protections from amazon, especially in the case where the item is not as described. Sounds like you have proof of that, so I would pursue trying to return that.
As far as where to get a replacement though, I'm not sure, unless you want to buy from a European supplier such as Clove.
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I would feel exactly the same. The battery unknown is a big reason why I would avoid refurbed phones. Even though you bought from a 3rd party on Amazon, you should have some protections from amazon, especially in the case where the item is not as described. Sounds like you have proof of that, so I would pursue trying to return that.
As far as where to get a replacement though, I'm not sure, unless you want to buy from a European supplier such as Clove.
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Never heard of Clove. Pretty reputable? As long as exchange is good it should still come in under $400 us.
I've actually asked the amazon company if they would exchange for a sealed in box model or give me a discount since it wasn't as described. They have pretty good feedback, I just worry about the battery.
I recently got a brand new international model from Ebay.
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Never heard of Clove. Pretty reputable? As long as exchange is good it should still come in under $400 us.
I've actually asked the amazon company if they would exchange for a sealed in box model or give me a discount since it wasn't as described. They have pretty good feedback, I just worry about the battery.
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I haven't personally used Clove, but they've been mentioned by XDA users over the years as a good source of unlocked phones. Or, like Dean says, there is always Ebay if you end up having to return your Amazon phone.
POMF2K said:
So I got one on amazon that was supposed to be new and a us warrantied model.
Turns out it's not a us model. Also the box wasn't sealed and Sony says that the warranty info says it would expire over a month prior to a year past my purchase date... indicating to them that it has been previously activated.
Thanks in adavance
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At least here in Germany the phones did not come sealed (we bought 3 phones so far) and the Warranty started at a date that was much earlier than our purchase date. Dropping an email to Sony fixed the problem
I'd get a new one, and it's not like region matters if you're planning to flash an international firmware to get the fingerprint sensor working anyway
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Any thoughts on which is the better option?
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You could buy a new one from Amazon Germany AND save some money. Then the fingerprint scanner will work out of the box.
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You could buy a new one from Amazon Germany AND save some money. Then the fingerprint scanner will work out of the box.
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This is a good find, but why you guys do not recommend buying used phones from Amazon? For example this one: Amazon.de blue xz1c.
I mean, the only concern would be the battery, right? Because there is no info about how much and for how long it has been used.
I am also looking for auctions on eBay.
Didgesteve said:
You could buy a new one from Amazon Germany AND save some money. Then the fingerprint scanner will work out of the box.
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Assuming I got a fair exchange rate it would still be right around $400 us for a new one. Even if shipping it here wasn't crazy expensive I'd still have to wait for it.

Had anyone bought from eBay?

Just wondering if anyone has bought the S10 from eBay and who did you buy from?
Also which version did you buy?
I’ve never bought anything expensive as this from eBay and the discounted prices seem to scare me in regards legitimatcy.
Colmdave said:
Just wondering if anyone has bought the S10 from eBay and who did you buy from?
Also which version did you buy?
I’ve never bought anything expensive as this from eBay and the discounted prices seem to scare me in regards legitimatcy.
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It should concern you. I would suggest a lot of research of the seller, paying with a means that gives you some protection such as PayPal or credit card, the sellers return policy, and more than 1 persons good experience with the seller.
Just ask yourself this:
Is it worth buying the phone at a sketchy price that could possibly end up being a clone or scam one week before legitimate versions are available in stores?
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Just wondering if anyone has bought the S10 from eBay and who did you buy from?
Also which version did you buy?
I’ve never bought anything expensive as this from eBay and the discounted prices seem to scare me in regards legitimatcy.
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I've purchased a number of Galaxy devices from a Houston based seller, best pricing, fast delivery and great customer service.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item34037670f4:m:mcQC07Hu_2UUAAqIB9bYrAg
varcor said:
I've purchased a number of Galaxy devices from a Houston based seller, best pricing, fast delivery and great customer service.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item34037670f4:m:mcQC07Hu_2UUAAqIB9bYrAg
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Yep, well established Seller! I think they sold over 2,000 Note 9's....
That isn't a huge discounted price so I would feel better about that seller than one that's cutting a lot of dollars off the price. That's only 60 or 70 dollars off what Amazon sells it for with an included SD card.
Colmdave said:
Just wondering if anyone has bought the S10 from eBay and who did you buy from?
Also which version did you buy?
I’ve never bought anything expensive as this from eBay and the discounted prices seem to scare me in regards legitimatcy.
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I purchased and already received my Galaxy S10e, SM-G970F/DS from the same seller mentioned. Included an SD card was likely a Latin American model or something because it booted up in Spanish. Otherwise, it's been fantastic and I've been using it since yesterday. Located in the US and running smoothly on Mint Mobile. Bought for just shy of $700
My concern is that these devices haven't even been released in the US yet and this seller is selling them for $100 less than the MSRP. Also, the fact they are supposedly an international model, yet are coming with a US power adapter? Lastly, this appears to be the phones everythingapplepro used on YouTube for his drop test and it broke quite easily, faster than most expected with cornings gorilla glass 6. Not saying these phones are not legitimate, but I have a bit of reservation on them being consistent with Samsung's released product due to the above concerns. If they are legitimate, fantastic deal at that rate.
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My concern is that these devices haven't even been released in the US yet and this seller is selling them for $100 less than the MSRP. Also, the fact they are supposedly an international model, yet are coming with a US power adapter? Lastly, this appears to be the phones everythingapplepro used on YouTube for his drop test and it broke quite easily, faster than most expected with cornings gorilla glass 6. Not saying these phones are not legitimate, but I have a bit of reservation on them being consistent with Samsung's released product due to the above concerns. If they are legitimate, fantastic deal at that rate.
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I think this identical phone with a bundled SD card is only 60 or 70 bucks more on Amazon. Of course there won't be a warranty on the international version purchased in the US.
Tel864 said:
I think this identical phone with a bundled SD card is only 60 or 70 bucks more on Amazon. Of course there won't be a warranty on the international version purchased in the US.
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Yeah, I see that on Amazon. However, it is from a 3rd party seller which is consistent with these eBay phones being discussed, not officially sold by Amazon. I am keeping my official Samsung preorder to be sure. I'm a bit curious to see other drop/durability tests and other YouTube reviews once the official retail units ship out next week.
Also, something to note, the 128gb SD cards are also included with these eBay models we are discussing. Comes with an SD card in the box, clear case (which was rumored early on in the leaks) and a US wall charger.
succumbtothegreater said:
I purchased and already received my Galaxy S10e, SM-G970F/DS from the same seller mentioned. Included an SD card was likely a Latin American model or something because it booted up in Spanish. Otherwise, it's been fantastic and I've been using it since yesterday. Located in the US and running smoothly on Mint Mobile. Bought for just shy of $700
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Ahh. I’m in Europe so ordering from America would become very expensive with import charges. Unfortunately. The Snapdragon variant looks so promising!!
Colmdave said:
Ahh. I’m in Europe so ordering from America would become very expensive with import charges. Unfortunately. The Snapdragon variant looks so promising!!
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Don't fall for the superficial benchmarks around, we still don't know why people avoid posting battery tests involving the SnapD, also it's permanently bootloader-locked and some updates never get to it.
Anyway don't buy from eBay, Samsung doesn't manage those sales, you get no pre-order bonus, your warranty might be forged and it definitely doesn't look legitimate when some unknown third-party seller puts their hands on pre released devices, selling them for about 10% less than the release price, delivering faster than Samsung itself.
The bonus buds alone are worth more than any eBay deal could save you, and if anything happens with an official pre-order you have legal power, stick to Samsung, Amazon or other officially recognised shops that respect the pre-order plans.
It's legit twisted420 bought his from that seller
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It's legit twisted420 bought his from that seller
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LOL, unless farboypup is the seller.
If those phones end up being stolen units they'll just be nationally IMEI banned from every network, in any country they are reported as stolen.
Why all negativity... Buy the seller..
Like mentioned those bought from has like tousends of Positive Feedback...
Its like all youtubers who has the phone has a potentially stolen ones???
Comone. It sounds you all jellous of ones who got phones in hands few days before you do [emoji3][emoji3]
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I have dealt with 'Never-MSRP' for the majority of my recent purchases; Samsung or not. I highly recommend them.
See my 'Device History':
S7 Edge (G935FD)
Note 8 256GB (N950N)
Mi A1 (MDG2)
Note 8 (N950FD)
Mi A2 (1M1804D2SG)
Note 9 (N960FD)
ALL Never-MSRP.
They have willingly accepted any and all returns with full refunds OR exchanges (provided the returns met their guidelines; which all my returns did).
I've had nothing but positive experience with them as well... If I buy on eBay I will buy from them before considering another seller
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I have dealt with 'Never-MSRP' for the majority of my recent purchases; Samsung or not. I highly recommend them.
See my 'Device History':
S7 Edge (G935FD)
Note 8 256GB (N950N)
Mi A1 (MDG2)
Note 8 (N950FD)
Mi A2 (1M1804D2SG)
Note 9 (N960FD)
ALL Never-MSRP.
They have willingly accepted any and all returns with full refunds OR exchanges (provided the returns met their guidelines; which all my returns did).
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I bought the Galaxy s6 and my current Huawei mate 20 pro from them. They are legit and awesome sellers of phones!!! My mate 20 pro was perfect, factory sealed and all. Very happy with the seller and more importantly my lovely phone which replaced the note 9 lol

Price in EU (<€1200 now).

It's now sub 1200 Euros in Germany, if you look around a bit. Nearing 1100 in a few places.
Price has cratered harder and faster than any phone in living memory.
Samsung must be pumping these out of the factory pretty quickly, and not intending for new models to take as long as Fold 1 to Fold 2.
I can see this going below 1000 around Black Friday, and definitely by the New Year. If it's not already replaced by the end of Q1 '21, I'd imagine the phone might see significant development and community involvement, below 1k.
You're insane.
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Really, care to explain why? Lowest retail price has dropped over 700 Euros in less than 2 months.
Samsung are well known for front-loading pricing, and quickly tapering it to distributors and wholesalers, but it's never been quite like this. The device is clearly intended to sell in volume, and not be the flagship for anything like as long as the Fold 1.
Re: development, plenty of 800-1200 Euro devices see lots of development.
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It's now sub 1200 Euros in Germany, if you look around a bit. Nearing 1100 in a few places.
Price has cratered harder and faster than any phone in living memory.
Samsung must be pumping these out of the factory pretty quickly, and not intending for new models to take as long as Fold 1 to Fold 2.
I can see this going below 1000 around Black Friday, and definitely by the New Year. If it's not already replaced by the end of Q1 '21, I'd imagine the phone might see significant development and community involvement, below 1k.
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Some links as evidence of brand new / unused prices as per your post?
The €1200 price you mention is a scam. No one is getting the phone for that price.
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In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
Flavio said:
In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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No phones at that link.
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Wow, never used a search box?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...+handy_telekom.device_equipment_s:only_device
StormCell said:
The €1200 price you mention is a scam. No one is getting the phone for that price.
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I know it's probably a foreign concept, but supply chains and retail channels are relatively competitive in Europe .. particularly Germany.
Probably seems unreal to you when informal price fixing in a hugely non-competitive market rules in the US ... and you just got a Verizon Fold 2 for $$$$$$$$$$, with no hope of waiting for discounts.
Why do you think anyone with a clue in the US buys from European retailers? Price including tax in Europe (which you don't pay) is usually much cheaper than price excluding tax at US retailers, save for Apple. That's what no competition does.
And now you're mad and refuse to believe anything.
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Wow, never used a search box?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...+handy_telekom.device_equipment_s:only_device
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Those are pretty much all either used or branded / locked to a network.
Show me a link to a commercial seller who sells sim free new sealed box Fold2 including full 2 year official Samsung warranty ... if you can't then just delete this thread
Not true, as I have explained most of them are new in wrapped box with full Samsung European warranty.
And as far as I know no German provider sells these branded and/or SIMlocked.
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Those are pretty much all either used or branded / locked to a network.
Show me a link to a commercial seller who sells sim free new sealed box Fold2 including full 2 year official Samsung warranty ... if you can't then just delete this thread
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Lol.
Are you really not able to use price comparison sites or enter search terms and use filters on Ebay?
Rhetorical question. Evidently not.
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Not true, as I have explained most of them are new in wrapped box with full Samsung European warranty.
And as far as I know no German provider sells these branded and/or SIMlocked.
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I don't think any contract phones have been branded / locked for 5-6 years in DE ... and he appears to be implying these are secondhand contract phones. I'm not even sure heavily subsidised pay as you go phones are branded anymore.
Lowest retail price for sealed NIB Fold 2 in DE is 1149.99 today. It has been lower. Trend is still downwards quickly though.
I bought one of these z fold 2 of Germany.
1215€ and came sealed... I activated Samsung care+
I dont know the reason of the low prize of those phones, but are real and legal.
ricksmad said:
I bought one of these z fold 2 of Germany.
1215€ and came sealed... I activated Samsung care+
I dont know the reason of the low prize of those phones, but are real and legal.
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Another one that bought the phone on ebay on the german market.
At the beginning I thought it was not real, but it cames everything brand new and the price with the discount of 50€ you can get it for 1.215€.
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santjust said:
Another one that bought the phone on ebay on the german market.
At the beginning I thought it was not real, but it cames everything brand new and the price with the discount of 50€ you can get it for 1.215€.
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I bought this Fold 2 for one month ago too in Germany ebay kleinanzeigen 1350 Euro) . some people buy buissness phone cards with a fold 2 and they sell the fold 2 and use the phone card.
Now it is sometimes a little bit cheaper but ok .... I use it for over a month now and I love this phone ! So great stuff Samsung did here ...
You can buy these used for around $1400 US off of Ebay (which is around 1250 Euro, which is what I see it for on the German eBay site). Hoping for a slight bit more of a price drop from Black Friday, but I noticed that Samsung is still selling it for its original price, and they've dropped the price of trade ins by around $200.
I don't know why anyone would have paid full price in the US as it was on sale the opening day at every possible outlet and you would have had to literally give them more money than they were asking for the device in order to pay MSRP; I paid 1600 directly from Samsung's site on pre-order for the unlocked variant and others did better. Day one the latest greatest is always going to be more expensive than it will be just a short time later; you all know that, I'm not telling you something you didn't know. You do need to put it on a level playing field though, you can't compare the MSRP here to the actual price somewhere else at a different time, you have to compare actual price at the same specific time in order to get a valid comparison.
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I don't know why anyone would have paid full price in the US as it was on sale the opening day at every possible outlet and you would have had to literally give them more money than they were asking for the device in order to pay MSRP; I paid 1600 directly from Samsung's site on pre-order for the unlocked variant and others did better. Day one the latest greatest is always going to be more expensive than it will be just a short time later; you all know that, I'm not telling you something you didn't know. You do need to put it on a level playing field though, you can't compare the MSRP here to the actual price somewhere else at a different time, you have to compare actual price at the same specific time in order to get a valid comparison.
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I'm looking to buy it again, and I'm not seeing all these great deals. Samsung's site is $1999, unless you trade in a device. The deals on eBay are ok for a used device, but not great. Amazon has some refurbs for $300 off, which is ok, but again, it's a refurb, to which they only promise that you won't notice a problem "holding it at arm's length". I haven't seen any sign of a new unit coming down in price from $2k.
Flavio said:
In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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Be very wary of purchasing a phone tied to a network contract.
These phones may get blacklisted a few months down the line if the original owner doesn't pay the bill, or if they have insurance and claim a month or two later that it has been lost or stolen.
... I know this from experience ... you could end up with a 1000 euro "tablet" that cannot use a sim card anywhere in EU
dezborders said:
Be very wary of purchasing a phone tied to a network contract.
These phones may get blacklisted a few months down the line if the original owner doesn't pay the bill, or if they have insurance and claim a month or two later that it has been lost or stolen.
... I know this from experience ... you could end up with a 1000 euro "tablet" that cannot use a sim card anywhere in EU
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It's good advice, and I am worried about it. I see a number of devices for sale that say they're on a contract. Kind of terrifying that someone decides to switch providers and suddenly my phone is blacklisted.
Starting to hope for a Black Friday sale!

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