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[Q] Always Listening Google Now or S Voice a la Moto X?

Does the S5 do the Always Listening with the screen off like the Moto X?
As in, while the screen is off you can say 'OK Google Now' or 'Hi, Galaxy' and get S Voice or Google Now to open?
Thanks!

brazilian812 said:
Does the S5 do the Always Listening with the screen off like the Moto X?
As in, while the screen is off you can say 'OK Google Now' or 'Hi, Galaxy' and get S Voice or Google Now to open?
Thanks!
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Don't think so, unless there's another setting. Just tried on my S5 and Google only works if you in the homescreen, not sure about S Voice.

surf1 said:
Don't think so, unless there's another setting. Just tried on my S5 and Google only works if you in the homescreen, not sure about S Voice.
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Dang. There might be a setting for S Voice to turn on Hotword Detection maybe?
Even if only S Voice works, there are apps to replace it with Google Now which would be fine by me!

From what I can tell from messing around with the S5, the "OK Google" hotword only works when you have the Google search bar on your homescreen. You take that bar off and it stops working. Other than that, I haven't been able to find any setting to enable it while the screen is off or without the google bar, unfortunately.

According to this article you can use S Voice with the screen off, it's not working for me though. Anyone else get it to work?
"Use S Voice Without Touching the Galaxy S5
Samsung includes S Voice on the Galaxy S5 as a Siri competitor that can perform many actions. Normally you double tap the home button to access this S Voice, but you can set it up to respond to a command even when the display is off.
Open S Voice – Tap on the Settings icon in the upper right -> Choose Settings -> Voice Wakeup On -> tap on Voice Wakeup to set the wake up command."
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/11/galaxy-s5-tips-tricks-hidden-features/

miketunes said:
According to this article you can use S Voice with the screen off, it's not working for me though. Anyone else get it to work?
"Use S Voice Without Touching the Galaxy S5
Samsung includes S Voice on the Galaxy S5 as a Siri competitor that can perform many actions. Normally you double tap the home button to access this S Voice, but you can set it up to respond to a command even when the display is off.
Open S Voice – Tap on the Settings icon in the upper right -> Choose Settings -> Voice Wakeup On -> tap on Voice Wakeup to set the wake up command."
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/04/11/galaxy-s5-tips-tricks-hidden-features/
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Dang, that sucks. Are you saying 'Hi Galaxy"?

brazilian812 said:
Dang, that sucks. Are you saying 'Hi Galaxy"?
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Yeah, it let me customize the phrase - so it seems like it should work. I couldn't even get it to work with the screen on though, so I'm wondering if I'm not doing something quite right.

miketunes said:
Yeah, it let me customize the phrase - so it seems like it should work. I couldn't even get it to work with the screen on though, so I'm wondering if I'm not doing something quite right.
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Dont think so. Seems to be several people so far. Which model do you have? Mine is the SMG900I (Asia)

gjlamb said:
Dont think so. Seems to be several people so far. Which model do you have? Mine is the SMG900I (Asia)
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I have the AT&T varianT and no luck unless I'm inside the s voice app (having double clicked the get in)

S Voice > Google on Note 4

I've used S Voice and Google for 4 days each and in my opinion S Voice is the clear winner. Here's my top 5:
1) S Voice has very reliable always-on service whereas Google occasionally will glitch and stop responding to the wake up command until I reboot the Note 4.
2) S Voice accepts way more commands.
3) S Voice can perform functions and execute them instead of just bringing you to them. For example if you say "wake me up at 6:30AM" it will set the alarm for you, whereas Google brings up the page and you have to click "set alarm."
4) S Voice has a funny AI. You can say "Will you marry me?" and it will reply with "I would make a terrible spouse" or say "yeah baby" and it will respond with "I'm not your baby." Funny stuff.
5) S Voice has more secure always-on service because it allows you to pick the wake command so you can make your command,"I like pie" and it will work, whereas Google currently only supports "OK Google" which everyone knows from the commercials, and if you want to set it to work even if your phone is locked, you want a wake command that people are less likely to know.
What have your experiences been thus far?

To be honest I haven't given S Voice a try yet. I was surprises than Google Now works because in Poland it had very little support, but now it let me set an alarm and everything, nice. But I can't set Google Now to wake the phone - for some reason the option for it is turned off, maybe S Voice will work like that.

The new pop-up window is nice too, any app will stay open and S-Voice just pops up and closes down. Makes more sense than opening up a whole new page. Quite accurate understanding English as well.

Oh, nice. Does it affect battery?

Nice to know they improved s voice. It used to be inferior to google voice on the note 3. I might give it a try again.

Rippley05 said:
Oh, nice. Does it affect battery?
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Nope. I had S Voice a and Google Now always listening and had no noticable effect on battery life. I didn't really use'em but it did come handy at one or two occasions. I think it's efficient operation comes down to that extra chip both the SD805 and I think the Exynos variant has.

I love the S-voice and wanna use it all the time but I wish I can pull up the S-voice anytime with voice. I know it's easy double tapping the home button but Google can be pulled up anywhere with voice.

FuzzRaven said:
I love the S-voice and wanna use it all the time but I wish I can pull up the S-voice anytime with voice. I know it's easy double tapping the home button but Google can be pulled up anywhere with voice.
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So can s-voice. It's in the settings. You can also turn on voice wake while locked.

For voice to wake. In my experience, it only halfway works to. Maybe it's because I use a custom command...but voice rarely wake it up.

Rippley05 said:
So can s-voice. It's in the settings. You can also turn on voice wake while locked.
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Maybe I'm missing it but the only option I can find is waking it up with voice while locked (voice wake-up option) nothing for when the screen is on, even on the home screen. The only way to pull it up is by double tapping home button.

FuzzRaven said:
Maybe I'm missing it but the only option I can find is waking it up with voice while locked (voice wake-up option) nothing for when the screen is on, even on the home screen. The only way to pull it up is by double tapping home button.
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Huh? Look at that picture I posted. Check that option, then say "hi galaxy" or whatever you set your command to be and it'll wake up. It doesn't work all that well when you use a custom command.

Here

Rippley05 said:
Here
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Thanks for posting those photos and instructions! But I already have both enabled even before I came to this post and it still would NOT take voice commands when you have the screen on, as in not on the lockscreen (or as I found out, also when you're using any app) but when you're in the home screen. Both those options are only for use when you're on the lockscreen or when the phone is sleeping. Now that I think about it, maybe it's because of my use of Nova Prime that's hindering the S-Voice to be invoked on the main home screen though...

The thing that i don't like is even though svoice turns on when i say hi galaxy, i still have to push the mic button to say my command. Google voice doesnt so that

Patch7 said:
The thing that i don't like is even though svoice turns on when i say hi galaxy, i still have to push the mic button to say my command. Google voice doesnt so that
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You don't need to push the mic button to issue your command. If you ran out of time to say your command, all you have to do is to say your wake up phrase again and it should accept your voice command then.

FuzzRaven said:
You don't need to push the mic button to issue your command. If you ran out of time to say your command, all you have to do is to say your wake up phrase again and it should accept your voice command then.
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Thanks! That works great. Love it!!

I use svoice for making calls through by bluetooth headset. It works much much much better than google voice. Google voice is no more than a joke when you have non-english names, whereas svoice still does a great job. Another thing I love with SVoice is that it also utilizes the nicknames in your adress book. So you can use either the full name or the nickname.

This is very interesting. I must admit I completely ignored S-Voice when I bought the Note 4, as it wasn't brilliant on the Note 3. I also had got so used to Google's voice functions which did impress.
I just caught this thread and whoa! Samsung really have made some great changes to S-Voice on the Note 4 and I think I might actually start using it a bit more. So thanks for posting your observations

Samsung S-Voice command examples
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I took the trouble to type out all the available S-Voice examples, along with a few added examples for UK or International users. I hope you find it useful.
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I took the trouble to type out all the available S-Voice examples, along with a few added examples for UK or International users. I hope you find it useful.
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Awesome stuff! Thanks man. This confirms my suspicions that you cannot use s-voice to switch on mobile hotspot

Bixby button not working as remapable button anymore

Hey folks, I had reddit on my remapable button for Bixby for single press and double press is Bixby, but something happened yesterday out of the blue and it is not working anymore and it launches Bixby on single press and its frozen. Tried to re do the whole process nothing got fixed, restarted the phone, nothing, I do not have any new software, I sont use games I dont use almost anything except Google stuff like calendar and keep, some things like viber, Skype, WhatsApp, a bibble, or scanner and reddit... so the idea is I should not have anything to break my phone in my eyes, but I just also remembered there were Samsung updates yesterday in the Samsung store, for the apps and Bixby was one of them, has any one had similar issues, and do you know a fix?

Nobody?

I got the update for Bixby & related applications. At first, the single click of bixby button did launch the bixby assistant. Then I went to settings & disabled>enabled it & it worked good again.
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abhichak93 said:
I got the update for Bixby & related applications. At first, the single click of bixby button did launch the bixby assistant. Then I went to settings & disabled>enabled it & it worked good again.
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Thank you mate, it did not work from the first time but I did it few times on and off and it eventually got fixed. Cheers!

tixooo said:
Thank you mate, it did not work from the first time but I did it few times on and off and it eventually got fixed. Cheers!
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Great [emoji106]
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Remove the whole thing completely if you are rooted
I never used bixby

go to that post and remove it completely^^
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/how-to/galaxy-s10-s10-debloat-bloatware-t3912073
Edit: And you dont need root for that^^

TheUndertaker21 said:
Remove the whole thing completely if you are rooted
I never used bixby
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bilrage said:
go to that post and remove it completely^^
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/how-to/galaxy-s10-s10-debloat-bloatware-t3912073
Edit: And you dont need root for that^^
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If you totally remove bixby can you still remap the button?
For example I disabled bixby using package disabler pro and seem to be having issues remapping...

Yes, I use bxActions for that.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-bxactions-remap-bixby-button-single-t3832301
For me it works great. Action Shortpress is Display off and lang press Google Assistant.

After updating, I had to go through the Bixby setup the first time I hit the button but after that I'm back to normal on a single press.

disable OK google listening

Ok I was able disable the OK google and it only listen when I press the mic icon. Now no matter what I do in the google app settings it's always listening. My only current option is to disable microphone permissions which isn't what I want since I can't press the mic icon and speak.
I had it setup on the note8 with android 9 to only listen when the mic icon is pressed. Got the note 9 did the same settings and it still responds when I say OK or hey google.
Currently have the microphone permissions disabled since my phone does NOT need to listen all the time. Is there a setting I am missing?

I had to remove the Google search widget to stop it from always listening. It is stupid that they removed the option to simply turn it off.

ChodaBoyUSA said:
I had to remove the Google search widget to stop it from always listening. It is stupid that they removed the option to simply turn it off.
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Exactly. Disable the "Google" app improve the memory and battery usage, imo

Interesting, I disabled the Google app for about 30 minutes and could not use voice with chrome so turned it back on. The mic permissions are enabled but OK google is now disabled yet I can push the mic icon and use voice for searching again.
So its exactly how I want it but a very strange way to get there. I have no clue how this worked but it did.

Well after a restart and about 20 minutes it went back to listening.

That's odd - it's definitely off on mine, but I can't find where I deactivated it! I use Nova Launcher, and there is an option in the Settings under 'Gestures and Inputs' to disable 'OK Google hotword' - maybe that's how I did it? But 'OK Google' doesn't work anywhere on my Note 9 (did this to save battery and because I have a Google Home & Mini).
EDIT: And I do have the Google App installed.

Not sure what's going on. Google runs me around when I tired to ask them. I know exactly where the setting is and its disabled but still listens for the "OK google "
Personally I would love someone with influence to get attention to this but it seems a little hit or miss on setups so not sure. I have the mic disabled.
I did do a really stupid test if my device was listening and used let's say red flag words to see if anyone was listening. Ironically the words I used are related to an event happening in my city which was horrible timing on my part but semi proved to me no one heard it.

macgyver40 said:
Not sure what's going on. Google runs me around when I tired to ask them. I know exactly where the setting is and its disabled but still listens for the "OK google "
Personally I would love someone with influence to get attention to this but it seems a little hit or miss on setups so not sure. I have the mic disabled.
I did do a really stupid test if my device was listening and used let's say red flag words to see if anyone was listening. Ironically the words I used are related to an event happening in my city which was horrible timing on my part but semi proved to me no one heard it.
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Early days.... maybe someone listened and now the search is on! Lol...
Also isnt it the same if I just turn off microphone assess under Settings >Apps> permissions? I just did and hey Google, or voice search etc all now dont respond....

william-johnson said:
Early days.... maybe someone listened and now the search is on! Lol...
Also isnt it the same if I just turn off microphone assess under Settings >Apps> permissions? I just did and hey Google, or voice search etc all now dont respond....
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Yes that works. The only thing I don't want is it to disable voice in chrome app which this does.
The settings to disable OK Google are there but don't function and google themselves either don't understand what I am saying or don't want to admit the setting doesn't function as it should.

Kinsman-UK said:
That's odd - it's definitely off on mine, but I can't find where I deactivated it! I use Nova Launcher, and there is an option in the Settings under 'Gestures and Inputs' to disable 'OK Google hotword' - maybe that's how I did it? But 'OK Google' doesn't work anywhere on my Note 9 (did this to save battery and because I have a Google Home & Mini).
EDIT: And I do have the Google App installed.
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macgyver40 said:
Ok I was able disable the OK google and it only listen when I press the mic icon. Now no matter what I do in the google app settings it's always listening. My only current option is to disable microphone permissions which isn't what I want since I can't press the mic icon and speak.
I had it setup on the note8 with android 9 to only listen when the mic icon is pressed. Got the note 9 did the same settings and it still responds when I say OK or hey google.
Currently have the microphone permissions disabled since my phone does NOT need to listen all the time. Is there a setting I am missing?
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william-johnson said:
Early days.... maybe someone listened and now the search is on! Lol...
Also isnt it the same if I just turn off microphone assess under Settings >Apps> permissions? I just did and hey Google, or voice search etc all now dont respond....
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Kinsman-UK said:
That's odd - it's definitely off on mine, but I can't find where I deactivated it! I use Nova Launcher, and there is an option in the Settings under 'Gestures and Inputs' to disable 'OK Google hotword' - maybe that's how I did it? But 'OK Google' doesn't work anywhere on my Note 9 (did this to save battery and because I have a Google Home & Mini).
EDIT: And I do have the Google App installed.
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macgyver40 said:
Ok I was able disable the OK google and it only listen when I press the mic icon. Now no matter what I do in the google app settings it's always listening. My only current option is to disable microphone permissions which isn't what I want since I can't press the mic icon and speak.
I had it setup on the note8 with android 9 to only listen when the mic icon is pressed. Got the note 9 did the same settings and it still responds when I say OK or hey google.
Currently have the microphone permissions disabled since my phone does NOT need to listen all the time. Is there a setting I am missing?
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william-johnson said:
Early days.... maybe someone listened and now the search is on! Lol...
Also isnt it the same if I just turn off microphone assess under Settings >Apps> permissions? I just did and hey Google, or voice search etc all now dont respond....
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It's not easy to find the option to turn off the Google assistant, but it's there.
Settings > apps > (three dots menu) default apps > device assistance app
You'll want to change "device assistance app" to "none" and then "voice input" to "Google". The you should be all set.
To go a step further, you can disable the Google assistant from running at all on your device.
Google app > "more" (lower right hand corner) > settings > Google assistant > assistant
Then, at the bottom you should see "assistant devices" with "phone" listed. Select phone and then toggle Google assistant off.
This should do the trick.

Bober_is_a_troll said:
It's not easy to find the option to turn off the Google assistant, but it's there.
Settings > apps > (three dots menu) default apps > device assistance app
You'll want to change "device assistance app" to "none" and then "voice input" to "Google". The you should be all set.
To go a step further, you can disable the Google assistant from running at all on your device.
Google app > "more" (lower right hand corner) > settings > Google assistant > assistant
Then, at the bottom you should see "assistant devices" with "phone" listed. Select phone and then toggle Google assistant off.
This should do the trick.
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I was able to do the first part of device assistant app to none. The voice input option doesn't allow me to pick just google option.
Either way this has solved my issue and is now working they I want it to. Going to try a restart and see if it persists unlike my previous attempt.
Thanks again for finding this.
I like having the search widget and be able to type or voice input my search if I don't know how to spell something. With all the news of companies admitting they listen and record voice stuff having my device always listening is very unsettling. I guess it's a little paranoid but I live in a bad part of my city and I really don't want to be red flag because I walked by a drug deal which happens all to often.

That's strange, because that exactly what it should do when you disable Voice Match, since it is said that's it's actually the "anywhere OK Google listening".
Try deleting your voice imprint on the same setting page too maybe.
I wonder why is working fine on my phone and not on others.

Nastrahl said:
That's strange, because that exactly what it should do when you disable Voice Match, since it is said that's it's actually the "anywhere OK Google listening".
Try deleting your voice imprint on the same setting page too maybe.
I wonder why is working fine on my phone and not on others.
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I have no saved voice imprint saved. At least someone was able to find a work around that was a to do what I wanted.

Google assistant

Anyone notice on their new pixel that the new assistant is not working? The assistant is Still the old one, which you'd need to keep squeezing or repeat the hey google phrase.

What language are you using? It didn't work for me when set to English (UK), but works when set to English(US). It seems it is limited to English(US) at the moment.

Also cannot be used with a GSuite account, has to be a personal Google account.

I've switch to english US and have always used a personal Gmail account. Not sure why it's not working. Might just wait for google to fix the damn thing.

hero4eva said:
I've switch to english US and have always used a personal Gmail account. Not sure why it's not working. Might just wait for google to fix the damn thing.
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Are you using Google beta app? Didn't work for me when I got the phone until I left the beta.

elreydenj said:
Are you using Google beta app? Didn't work for me when I got the phone until I left the beta.
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I'm not using any beta apps. Just reformatted the phone and still same thing, no new assistant. I give up

elreydenj said:
Are you using Google beta app? Didn't work for me when I got the phone until I left the beta.
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Thanks that worked for me
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Where are you from? It is U.S. exclusive. Not just the language setting English(US). Don't know if you knew that. I'm from germany and I won't get it until they open it for us...

I got my phone yesterday (in the UK) and once I set it the assistant to us US English it installed an update and just works using the new assistant style, so it's not U.S. exclusive in that sense. Thankfully they've also added UK English voices for the assistant to use when talking back (when set to U.S.)

sycx2 said:
Where are you from? It is U.S. exclusive. Not just the language setting English(US). Don't know if you knew that. I'm from germany and I won't get it until they open it for us...
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I'm from Australia, but has set the language not english US, still no luck

After giving up a few times, I notice that I was missing the google home app. After downloading the home app, in settings there were an option under continue conversation where you can enable or disable "shared devices". I disable that option and, What do you know, after squeezing the phone for the assistant, it automatically update itself to the new assistant. Hope this help others too.

set to english US and it updated and works
in settings > assistant > languages
not language and region.

Any way to get continuous conversation to work without the gestures?
I don't use it

I just got off chat with Google rep and they told me it's a known issue that they are trying to fix.

troymz1 said:
I just got off chat with Google rep and they told me it's a known issue that they are trying to fix.
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What's a known issue?
That the language has to be set to US?

virtyx said:
What's a known issue?
That the language has to be set to US?
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Mine is set to us and doesn't work.

TheUndertaker21 said:
Any way to get continuous conversation to work without the gestures?
I don't use it
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Go to settings, search "continued", and toggle the option. Works with squeeze, "Hey, Google", or tapping the assistant icon on the search widget.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Go to settings, search "continued", and toggle the option. Works with squeeze, "Hey, Google", or tapping the assistant icon on the search widget.
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Only works with gestures.
I have 3 nav enable. I don't do Google gestures or any gesture for that matter

TheUndertaker21 said:
Only works with gestures.
I have 3 nav enable. I don't do Google gestures or any gesture for that matter
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Oh! My bad. Didn't realize that was necessary. I read gestures and was thinking Motion Sense gestures. [emoji2359]
I know Android is all about options and all and sucks that it's not an option for the button based navigation but why not use gestures? It's very fluid and quick.
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Sorry to hijack the thread but is anyone else having issues with the squeeze for assistant feature? Mine seems very temperamental.
If I leave my phone locked for a bit, then lift it, it unlocks and the squeeze is not working. I then have to tap on the power button to lock it again, unlock and it starts working again.