Well my Mate 20 Pro started showing the green tint issue, which was tolerable at first, but because I imported it to the US I didn't want to take the risk of getting another green screen, or the one I had getting worse and then being outside of the return period.
My Oneplus 6T 8gb got here yesterday and is making me realize just how bad EMUI really is. Touchwiz to EMUI wasn't that bad of a shock, but stock android to EMUI is. Just the difference in getting notifications again is relieving. The Oneplus feels just as snappy as the Mate 20 Pro did also, no signs of lag or hesitation. Another benefit for me, because I am using T-Mobile US, is the optimization the Oneplus has for my network. I am getting much greater LTE speeds, WiFi Calling, and VoLTE again. Not deal breakers, but very nice to have them back.
I am going to miss the battery life; 6t doesn't seem bad, but the Mate was insane. Honestly the battery life was so good, the 40w charging ended up being a non-feature for me. I never need to top the phone off quickly as I never saw below 30% battery, even with 8 hours screen on time at one point. The camera on the Oneplus isn't horrible, but I will miss all of the options the Mate came with.
In the end the most important thing about a phone is that is does the core things well. Connectivity, calls, messaging and user experience trump all of the other features to me, and the Oneplus does do all of those things better. The UI is so much cleaner than EMUI, and Huawei could really benefit from offering a version of the phone with pure android.
When the price on the Mate 20 Pro drops and the issues have been worked out, I really do think I will revisit the phone and consider purchasing it again.
I forgot to mention...The fingerprint scanner on the Oneplus 6t is worlds better than the Mate 20 Pro. It hasn't missed a scan yet, is just as fast, and positioned much better. All of this with the factory applied screen protector.
I’m essentially in the same boat as you I just haven’t pulled the trigger on the 6t. However that thunder purple is tempting.. My Mate is gone as I couldn’t handle the green, however I miss the phone so much. Are you happy with the 6t or is it just a stop gap for you? And how is the camera is noticeably worse or would you say it’s marginal. That was a key reason for getting the mate I take a lot of photos for work and having a good camera really makes things easier for me.
I've ordered the mate 20 pro but I think I'm going to cancel. Today was the first time I got to test out a demo, while the build quality, and features of the phone are amazing, I really didn't like emui in that 10 min I spent with it. It reminded of the old TouchWiz.
Phone was very snappy but I can tell that the animations were much shorter than other phones and werent as fluid. A mate 20 pro one edition would have been perfect.
Be aware guys... RAM management on the OnePlus is terrible. I am returning it and getting a Mat 20 Pro.
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Just sold my Note 9 to buy the mate 20 pro (will be here tomorrow), although I do have the 6t with gcam installed and is a killer combo plus I paid 280 for it through Tmo
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I’m essentially in the same boat as you I just haven’t pulled the trigger on the 6t. However that thunder purple is tempting.. My Mate is gone as I couldn’t handle the green, however I miss the phone so much. Are you happy with the 6t or is it just a stop gap for you? And how is the camera is noticeably worse or would you say it’s marginal. That was a key reason for getting the mate I take a lot of photos for work and having a good camera really makes things easier for me.
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Haven't had a chance to take a lot of pictures with it, but I would say it's better than marginal. The ultra-wide and 3x/5x zoom on the mate 20 were killer though. I will definitely miss them. I will be ok giving them up though with everything else you get with Oneplus. I am already rooted with all the root apps I missed installed.
As far as ram management, it looks to be a Pie problem. The 3 phones with Pie, people are complaining about ram management. I just set the apps I don't want killed manually.
I would say the trade-offs from the Mate 20 Pro to the Oneplus side in favor of the Oneplus by just a little. The things you do everyday on your phone are just better on the Oneplus.
I have also replaced my Mate 20 Pro with the 6T due to screen bleeding. Obviously the camera is not as good but the 6T fingerprint scanner is far superior. This will do nicely before the big hitters of early 2019 are released. Hopefully lessons have been learned for the upcoming P30 Pro.
The OnePlus has many advantages over the M20P, with it being on Close to stock Android, better overall user experience, without annoying little things that comes with EMUI 9. The design on both are great and the new "Thunder Purple" on the 6T is stunning.
I just sold my OnePlus 6, will probably now test out the 6T or just wait until next year to see what that brings.
There are obvious issues for some with the M20P, it's most definitely not the best in terms of software and Huawei aren't the best with rolling out updates. (another plus point for OnePlus). However the camera for me is better on the M20P and battery life is just superb. I also appreciate the design and feel of the M20P. Fortunately I have not been affected with the green tint issue & hope it doesn't arise.
I'll hang in there and hope improvements to the UI are made and niggles sorted. As I am very much enjoying the M20P although as previously stated it's not as good as the 6T from a software perspective .
Enjoy your 6T it's a great all round device :good:
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Just sold my Note 9 to buy the mate 20 pro (will be here tomorrow), although I do have the 6t with gcam installed and is a killer combo plus I paid 280 for it through Tmo
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Can u pls confirm where did u order your mate 20pro from. My note 9 is coming today but I will return it even before opening the box.Thanks
6t finger print scanner is slower than mate 20 pro, the sensor is also much larger, they are using the highest speced sensor compared to oneplus mid tier sensor (check teardown)
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6t finger print scanner is slower than mate 20 pro, the sensor is also much larger, they are using the highest speced sensor compared to oneplus mid tier sensor (check teardown)
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You are incorrect. Side by side the Oneplus is faster and 10x more accurate. I have been trying them both all night.
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You are incorrect. Side by side the Oneplus is faster and 10x more accurate. I have been trying them both all night.
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okay well in my opinion its faster, the animation is just quicker on the oneplus. having removed the animations on the m20p its faster. But nether the less, i am also having doubts about the M20 pro but i dont want to go back to oneplus, its too boring but i know purist like pure android
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You are incorrect. Side by side the Oneplus is faster and 10x more accurate. I have been trying them both all night.
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No sorry I am afraid this is nonsense. The Oneplus 6T scanner is a "TINY" but faster, but I get 100% accurate scan every single time on the Mate 20 Pro. If you don't then you have a screen issue on the Mate or you haven't registered your print properly. And yes, I have also used them side by side.
Thing is, the secure face unlock on the Mate 20 pro is 10x faster than the 6t fingerprint and works with google pay and banking apps so blows it away.
Add to the fact the Mate is a LOT faster and smoother than the 6t with cameras and batter life that destroy it, I could never go for a oneplus.
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Thanks for the photo comparison. To me it looks like the Mate 20 pro did a nicer job with the truck. Looking at the letters RAM you can see that they have less glare around them (unless that is a reflection that is actually there)
I thought the default camera did a nicer job with the backyard shot. Leaves look a bit sharper than other cameras but I wonder if it is over saturated. Maybe you can comment on that. Over all I might still go for Mate 20 pro but all are quite good.
I also got rid of the mate 20 pro and purchased the OnePlus 6t 8gb 256.
Yes ultimately the mate 20 pro is better but OnePlus 6t is a nice device.
I hope also to purchased a mate 20 pro in the future as it's such a great device minus the screen obviously lol.
For now I'm happy I guess but could of been happier if I had a fully working Mate 20 pro but after replacements it was time to make a decision
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Can u pls confirm where did u order your mate 20pro from. My note 9 is coming today but I will return it even before opening the box.Thanks
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From ebay nevermsrp
mscion said:
Thanks for the photo comparison. To me it looks like the Mate 20 pro did a nicer job with the truck. Looking at the letters RAM you can see that they have less glare around them (unless that is a reflection that is actually there)
I thought the default camera did a nicer job with the backyard shot. Leaves look a bit sharper than other cameras but I wonder if it is over saturated. Maybe you can comment on that. Over all I might still go for Mate 20 pro but all are quite good.
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I think the Oneplus app is taking better pictures overall so far. Seems to have better range than the Gcam app. There are like 3 versions I have tried so far and none of them have been mind blowingly better so far.
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It's worse on the mate 20 pro... I have a OnePlus 6 as well and the ram management is much more predictable on that.
Although this is just software and may change
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No sorry I am afraid this is nonsense. The Oneplus 6T scanner is a "TINY" but faster, but I get 100% accurate scan every single time on the Mate 20 Pro. If you don't then you have a screen issue on the Mate or you haven't registered your print properly. And yes, I have also used them side by side.
Thing is, the secure face unlock on the Mate 20 pro is 10x faster than the 6t fingerprint and works with google pay and banking apps so blows it away.
Add to the fact the Mate is a LOT faster and smoother than the 6t with cameras and batter life that destroy it, I could never go for a oneplus.
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If you could be really never go for a OnePlus what is your basis for comparison? YouTube reviews?
I had an entire night side by side with both phones and the OnePlus is just as smooth, unlocks very quickly and still hasn't missed once on the finger print scanner (I registered my fingerprint at least a dozen different times on the Mate 20), and best of all it has root and no crap bloatware installed.
Without question the mate 20 camera is better just because of how many options you have with it.
Battery life I can't really comment on yet as I haven't had it long enough, but 85% left with 1.5 sot seems pretty decent so far.
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Hello everyone, I am a huge Samsung fan (not a fanboy though) I use whatever feels right and I always have 2 phones. Currently note 9 and an iPhone ... iPhone was a mistake so looking to trade it with a new Android and I thought it will be the s10 but .....
does anyone else thinks mate 20 pro was and still better buy than s10 series?
I mean triple cameras, but with a main 40mp sensor 3x optical zoom and dedicated night mode and super macro mode in mate 20 pro? Given that videos are much worse than a budget phone from Samsung but it also offer that crazy cinematic video effects.
Mate 20 has the wireless projection to a TV Which is a big step over DEX.
Day to day use, the SOCs will perform similar, even snapdragon 845 still a beast.
Battery with no doubt will be better on Huawei phone, it always was and will always be
Reverse wireless charging is there already, Dolby Atmos also, dark UI mode on Huawei phones since mate 10 for over a year now
EMUI sucks big time and one UI is actually my favorite Android skin now , even better than vanilla Android but is it an enough reason to go for it ??
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Hello everyone, I am a huge Samsung fan (not a fanboy though) I use whatever feels right and I always have 2 phones. Currently note 9 and an iPhone ... iPhone was a mistake so looking to trade it with a new Android and I thought it will be the s10 but .....
does anyone else thinks mate 20 pro was and still better buy than s10 series?
I mean triple cameras, but with a main 40mp sensor 3x optical zoom and dedicated night mode and super macro mode in mate 20 pro? Given that videos are much worse than a budget phone from Samsung but it also offer that crazy cinematic video effects.
Mate 20 has the wireless projection to a TV Which is a big step over DEX.
Day to day use, the SOCs will perform similar, even snapdragon 845 still a beast.
Battery with no doubt will be better on Huawei phone, it always was and will always be
Reverse wireless charging is there already, Dolby Atmos also, dark UI mode on Huawei phones since mate 10 for over a year now
EMUI sucks big time and one UI is actually my favorite Android skin now , even better than vanilla Android but is it an enough reason to go for it ??
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You are in wrong place mate. This is S10 forum and you are posting about Huawei. Do you think anyone would care?
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You are in wrong place mate. This is S10 forum and you are posting about Huawei. Do you think anyone would care?
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No "mate" I am posting actually about Samsung s10 versus another phone and which is better buy.
it's a general discussion not a childish my company makes better phone thread. Got it ?
Now, do u have an actual useful thoughts on this?
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No "mate" I am posting actually about Samsung s10 versus another phone and which is better buy.
it's a general discussion not a childish my company makes better phone thread. Got it ?
Now, do u have an actual useful thoughts on this?
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I never been with Huawei before. But I do know Megapixel is a gimmick. If the camera software is not good, all these megapixels are nothing but more storage space.
You could have a 58mgp camera sensor and if it's not implemented correctly (software controlled) then it's just a higher number. For example 12gb ram well there is absolutely no need for it, Android and apps will never need that, so it's a high number without any practicality.
It's marketing to some degree also, higher numbers are better right, 12gb ram, 58mgp camera ect.
So if you wish to be fooled look to the Pixel with a 12mgp single lens that shows clearly my point.
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No "mate" I am posting actually about Samsung s10 versus another phone and which is better buy.
it's a general discussion not a childish my company makes better phone thread. Got it ?
Now, do u have an actual useful thoughts on this?
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EMUI will trigger a slow descent into madness. It's quite a frustrating experience. The aggressive app management is great for the battery life but a terrible user experience. AOD is frustratingly useless and don't get me started on notifications. A nightmare... The wireless desktop thingy is a cool party trick and the camera can be great. It's not as consistent as the pixel's. I would streer clear if I were you.
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You could have a 58mgp camera sensor and if it's not implemented correctly (software controlled) then it's just a higher number. For example 12gb ram well there is absolutely no need for it, Android and apps will never need that, so it's a high number without any practicality.
It's marketing to some degree also, higher numbers are better right, 12gb ram, 58mgp camera ect.
So if you wish to be fooled look to the Pixel with a 12mgp single lens that shows clearly my point.
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I have had a couple of Huawei phones and wouldn't touch one again ever. While EMUI was one factor, the main reason is lack of support in the US. They are a pretty popular phone overseas though.
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Hello everyone, I am a huge Samsung fan (not a fanboy though) I use whatever feels right and I always have 2 phones. Currently note 9 and an iPhone ... iPhone was a mistake so looking to trade it with a new Android and I thought it will be the s10 but .....
does anyone else thinks mate 20 pro was and still better buy than s10 series?
I mean triple cameras, but with a main 40mp sensor 3x optical zoom and dedicated night mode and super macro mode in mate 20 pro? Given that videos are much worse than a budget phone from Samsung but it also offer that crazy cinematic video effects.
Mate 20 has the wireless projection to a TV Which is a big step over DEX.
Day to day use, the SOCs will perform similar, even snapdragon 845 still a beast.
Battery with no doubt will be better on Huawei phone, it always was and will always be
Reverse wireless charging is there already, Dolby Atmos also, dark UI mode on Huawei phones since mate 10 for over a year now
EMUI sucks big time and one UI is actually my favorite Android skin now , even better than vanilla Android but is it an enough reason to go for it ??
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Watch Mr Whostheboss video on the battery comparison, between s10+ and p20pro.
The s10+ lasts longer than the p20 pro by quite some time.
How about we all embrace the fact that smaller companies have been rising to compete with current flagships. Competition is a good thing, without it nobody would create anything new. Take a look at the iPhone vs Android. Granted, the iPhone does compete with Android but nowhere near the same level Android competes with other Android phones.
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Watch Mr Whostheboss video on the battery comparison, between s10+ and p20pro.
The s10+ lasts longer than the p20 pro by quite some time.
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Thanks I did, in the same video note 9 outperformed the iPhone max, witch is not the case with my usage and it makes sense since normal day to day use phone ain't always in our hands and standby time is much better on an iphone. These looping battery tests doesn't always make sense
By the way the lense size itself is huge on the mate 20 compared to s10 not only megapixel count
Got the mate 20 pro Thanks, got it for almost 550$ ... Couldn't resist the deal.
software wise it sucks big time. UI and navigation feels like an unfinished iOS clone ! Samsung one UI is much much better
Hardware is freaking awesome so far. Over 3 hours SOT with 68% left, app management is very flexible not that bad and it's blazing fast and smooth, camera is great and much better results than note and iPhone
After a 30 days im still thinking which phone to get.
I have now Mate 20 Pro and I can give my phone and 200EUR for S10 Plus or P30 Pro.
Yes I know difference between them on paper. But how is in really life? I read here on XDA they are so many people who used P30 Pro and S10 Plus.
So please what are you think of this two phones? What at end is better to choose for you?
P. S. Im heavy usere, and I love camera. I know that they said P30 Pro is better in photos and S10plus in video, but they are post by people who wrote that P30 Pro video is not far behind S10 Plus and etc...
I am grateful to everyone who helps. And please tell your honest answers if you used both phones. Without Huavei or Samsung fans.
P30 Pro much better I have sell my S10 plus
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P30 Pro much better I have sell my S10 plus
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I bought p30 pro 3 days ago. Amazing phone but I don't like video so much and Samsung's oneui seems way better as I see on videos.
U wqs thinking to switch to s10 plus.
Tell us cons and pros for both phone and why u sold s10 plus.
Thank you.
P30 Pro 256gb Aurora Power
Battery
Performance
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Zoom
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Video with AI amazing
Is better on P30 Pro
Samsung have 4K 60fps better
Not have video with AI
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I currently have both the S10+ and P30 Pro. For my use, the P30 Pro battery life makes all the difference. Being able to use the phone all day and stilll have 30-40% battery available when I go to bed is is amazing. With the S10+ I would have battery anxiety starting around 8 pm. I'm not that concerned about the P30+ lackluster video performnace and still hope a software update will make it better.
So how much is bad P30 Pro video? (i see some videos comparisons but thats all was when P30 Pro have pre-release software).
What about photos?
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So how much is bad P30 Pro video? (i see some videos comparisons but thats all was when P30 Pro have pre-release software).
What about photos?
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Its not all bad... just doesn't have 4K 60FPS & a true slow motion mode at high resolution... I don't video a lot and 1080p usually meets my needs...
As someone put it, it's about the whole package... Battery, photo camera, design, etc.
Does the phone do some things exceptional and other stuff not so much, yes...
Overall, at least IMO and my use case, best phone on market currently...
Its subjective and if you have never had a Huawei device, going from Samsung or other, it maybe a bit jarring especially EMUI because you have to do a lot of settings changes to get it to do everything at times the way you want it to... I however enjoy the ability to change some much.... Most of the changes relate to the phone keeping the best in class battery performance, so if I want to make a change at the cost of battery life, I like being the one making that decision and not the other way around.
Other minor annoyances have a purpose behind them... but they are only annoyances if it bothers you for your use case and not understanding the reasoning (which most times is actually well thought out)
I haven't enjoyed an Android phone so much that it has me looking for the next thing.... I really could care less about the OnePlus release already knowing it won't top the P30 pro's camera... Same possibly with the Note 10... that means until the new Pixel phone come into more focus or the new iPhone, I won't be changing... for myself to keep a phone for that long is unheard of in this disposal android market...
I had S10+ nice phone but battery was terrible. Very happy with p30 pro
Considering you already have the mate 20 pro, I would wait for the mate 30 pro as the change from mate 20 pro to p30 pro is a minor upgrade.
P30 Pro is very nice Phone and fast look this vs SD855
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Considering you already have the mate 20 pro, I would wait for the mate 30 pro as the change from mate 20 pro to p30 pro is a minor upgrade.
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Not worth the upgrade coming from a Mate 20 pro. I'd definitely recommend waiting for the Mate 30 pro
isko01 said:
After a 30 days im still thinking which phone to get.
I have now Mate 20 Pro and I can give my phone and 200EUR for S10 Plus or P30 Pro.
Yes I know difference between them on paper. But how is in really life? I read here on XDA they are so many people who used P30 Pro and S10 Plus.
So please what are you think of this two phones? What at end is better to choose for you?
P. S. Im heavy usere, and I love camera. I know that they said P30 Pro is better in photos and S10plus in video, but they are post by people who wrote that P30 Pro video is not far behind S10 Plus and etc...
I am grateful to everyone who helps. And please tell your honest answers if you used both phones. Without Huavei or Samsung fans.
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I prefer my S10+ over my P30 Pro.
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I prefer my S10+ over my P30 Pro.
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Why? What is difference in really life using?
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Why? What is difference in really life using?
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Better build quality, better screen, better video recording (4K 60fps/HDR), stereo speakers, Samsung Pay, MicroSD expansion, better UI, better front cameras, headphone jack, etc.
Three things I like more about the p30 pro...
Battery life, low light performance and the zoom capabilities.
Did someone have both phones, so he can take same several photos in day light and x5 and x10 zoom.
So we can compare it.
Thx a lot
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Did someone have both phones, so he can take same several photos in day light and x5 and x10 zoom.
So we can compare it.
Thx a lot
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And while they're at it, can they compare the stereo speakers, the QHD displays, the headphone jacks and the micro SD slots?
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And while they're at it, can they compare the stereo speakers, the QHD displays, the headphone jacks and the micro SD slots?
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All that is not big deal to me. And if you need more memory you can buy it online.
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All that is not big deal to me. And if you need more memory you can buy it online.
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What was your point, out of interest?
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What was your point, out of interest?
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Don't get me wrong, all that is good to have it. And to bad that phone in 2019 don't have all of that.
I know the P30 Pro have good battery, better then S10Plus. Im interested in camera now.
When you watch on YT there's so much paid youtubers. I need to know from people who have bout phones.
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Don't get me wrong, all that is good to have it. An hid to bad that phone in 2019 don't have all of that.
I know the P30 Pro have good battery, better then S10Plus. Im interested in camera now.
When you watch on YT there's so much paid youtubers. I need to know from people who have bout phones.
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I do actually have both - an Aurora Blue single SIM P30 Pro and a Prism White dual SIM S10+.
No point comparing the zoom though, as the S10 only has 2X and anything else is just basic digital cropping. The 5X zoom in the P30 Pro is fairly poor quality in my personal opinion - you can get decent enough shots in bright light but the dynamic range is a lot poorer than the main lens, there's a lot more fringing and it just isn't as sharp. The 10-50X zoom is fun, but ultimately the pictures are unusable but for anything other than the gimmick factor. The wide angle lens is better on the S10 than the P30 Pro, and in my opinion you get a much more reliable 'snapshot' front he S10+ when you don't want to think too much. Things like focus speed and overall ability to grab an action shot are just (IMO) better on the S10+
Battery life is almost identical for me but I switch off Huawei's power management for most apps via Settings, Battery, App Launch. If I don't do this then apps like Google Photos and my security camera software simply don't work properly - even apps that use audio playback (for videos) when the screen is off get switched off by default after a few minutes in EMUI. This brutal battery management is why Huaweis have such good stamina out of the box, but once you disable it and ensure all your apps work properly then the difference becomes negligible. Remember that there's only 100mAh more capacity in the P30 Pro.
The software is in my opinion much nicer on the Samsung - yes you can hide some things with Nova Launcher, but the little touches like the slicker notification popups, the more user-friendly lockscreen, the more slickly designed notification area, Edge Lighting etc make for a nicer day-to-day experience to my mind. I even like the fact that you can turn off the fingerprint unlock indicator on the S10+; on the P30 Pro the indicator lights up every time you move the phone, as well as every time you unlock (and it's *very* bright at night). I've run a display test and I find that a small patch where the fingerprint scanner resides is slightly shifting in tone compared to the rest of the display, and I'm concerned that this is screen burn caused by regular unlocking.
My S10+ has also had April security for a couple of weeks. My P30 Pro is still on March, despite being released in April (!). I'm not all that happy with Huawei's update reliability, and even to get this March update I had to use a PC.
I will say that Night Mode on the P30 Pro is really good, I like the overall feel-in-hand and it is nice and smooth to use. I still like the P30 Pro but between the two I think the S10+ has the edge - not just for the things I listed earlier.
Hi guys,
I am looking to get a phone and upgrade from P20, I am thinking of either OnePlus 7T and P30 Pro.
Any recommendations or opinions from users?
Personally:
I wanna go for OnePlus because of the OS, it is much cleaner and I enjoyed my three OP I had in a past.
I was thinking of P30 Pro due to camera.
Based in UK if that matters.
Regards
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Hi guys,
I am looking to get a phone and upgrade from P20, I am thinking of either OnePlus 7T and P30 Pro.
Any recommendations or opinions from users?
Personally:
I wanna go for OnePlus because of the OS, it is much cleaner and I enjoyed my three OP I had in a past.
I was thinking of P30 Pro due to camera.
Based in UK if that matters.
Regards
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mate 30 pro
In my Opinion I would choose the P30Pro. The OP7TPro doesn't have IP-Certification and no wireless Charging.
Given the current status of the world order- Oppo
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In my Opinion I would choose the P30Pro. The OP7TPro doesn't have IP-Certification and no wireless Charging.
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Absolutely agree. I would add that if you care about battery life, you should totally choose P30 Pro. As a con, the user interface is ugly and not fluent. Buuut, the Android 10 update is on its way, it should land on it very soon.
Larlen said:
Hi guys,
I am looking to get a phone and upgrade from P20, I am thinking of either OnePlus 7T and P30 Pro.
Any recommendations or opinions from users?
Personally:
I wanna go for OnePlus because of the OS, it is much cleaner and I enjoyed my three OP I had in a past.
I was thinking of P30 Pro due to camera.
Based in UK if that matters.
Regards
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Definitely 7T, it has worse battery life (still amazing if you charge device every night), camera (depends, p30 has better camera hardware but postprocessing is ****-oversharpening, oversaturated etc... On the other hand 7t's camera is still awesome, not as much detail, zoom or night capabilities but still amazing, honestly majority of flagship phones these days take amazing looking photos with very little difference) and it has no IP rating which doesn't mean anything because it's still waterproof just not certified, even phones with IP rating get water damaged and warranty won't cover it so I don't think it's deal-breaker. Also, OnePlus UI (Oxygen OS) is miles better than buggy EMUI, and support for it is also awesome unlike on Huawei devices.I have got P20 pro(last year flagship) and they almost totally abandoned it, no update for like 3 months. So I would definitely take OnePlus 7T. You can also unlock bootloader on it and have support from XDA developers for another +-4 years.Maybe much more
EDIT: Almost forgot about 90Hz display, that's another awesome feature of 7T
Camera, battery, ip rating(op failed on real ip68 test), features, ir blaster, wireless charging VS 90hz display, sd855+, oxygen os(close to stock, if less is better), longer future support and updates.
Unfortunately p30 pro tends to yellow the photos at night and with certain artificial lights, I myself took p30 pro and I'm thinking of making the return to take op7t
Funny that I was on same boat, and yesterday went for the P30 Pro to replace my Note 8.
I was really about to go for the 7T Pro, since everything is better on that phone out of the camera. CPU is better, screen is much better (90Hz), sound is real stereo and just great, Oxygen OS is far better, everything including video...
Unfortunately, camera sensor is crap. Photos are ok but not an improvement to my Note. I already turned back a S10 for that same reason, and my main use for a phone is photo! And after a full day and about a thousand pics already, I am convinced that I have made the right choice.
The P30 photos are not better than the Note at x1, but everything above is much better. It has weaknesses, sometimes colors are getting washed out, you can see it on the screen, looks perfect and all of a sudden loose their 'pop'... Huawei interface is real crap, but I can leave with it.
So it all depends by how photos are important to you. If just decent photos are ok, and you are mainly a video guy, go for the OnePlus, this is a great phone, but if your main usage is photo, P30 Pro is the only choice!
Yeah I was super set on the P30 pro but then discovered that the bootloader is locked beyond hope so I dunno. I really want the great battery life of the p30 pro and camera though
Now that I'm using dark mode on app such as Instagram and Google foto I earned 1h sot. Look at here!
I Forgot this
Am in the same boat (based in UK too). OP7T Pro McLaren version out next week which looks great in the promotional video but think I'm still tending towards P30 Pro... here's my logic:
P30 Pro pros:
better camera with all 3 back cameras supporting RAW
3D TOF sensor
IP68 Certified - good enough to shoot in a pool
P30 Pro cons:
Locked bootloader so no root possible (am mainly looking to block ads though and there are options via DNS)
OP7T pros:
Root possible
McLaren version looks cool
Higher spec in general
90Hz screen
no front camera notch
OP7t cons:
bit heavy
no IP rating although it sounds water resistant
Stock camera OK (only main lens will save RAW)
GCAM mod won't support all 3 lenses
I'm on the same boat as well. Both have it's pros and cons. I say get the one which has the best support in your area. In the last 7 years, I never had a phone that did not return for warranty - and I had plenty (Sony Xperia, Pixel, Pixel 2, P20 Pro, IphoneX, Samsung 9)
I'm now waiting for a decision on Nov 19th which could see ban lifted between US and some Huawei products. Maybe that could put Mate 30 Pro on the table if it receives Google Play Services.
Take oneplus you will not regret the choice, take p30 pro youll'find a lot of bad things -Yellowish tint in photos
-Update never get costant {updated from 8 August received on 11 november (September patched) with no other improvement/bugfix} even oneplus 3t (3yo phone is Better supported),
-Updates breaks camera: dgital zoom gives now black photos in lowlight... Before update the camera saw more than human eye, now It barely focus.
-Pulldown gesture on home to get notification and Quick tiles.
-2019 smartphone miss double tap to sleep on lockscreen.
-Lack of something to turn on Torch when screen off... (Partly solvable with external applications like Button remapper).
-In "monocromatic mode" even of you use supersensing camera (the principal one) yuo can't go further 6400 iso, so in dark conditions if you want to see something you need to switch in Pro mode and raise the exposure time increasing the blur.
-If you like to shot 16:9 Remember that you suo at 6MP
-Sometimes I don't receive SMS, and they all arrive together after restarting the phone
As an old owner of Oneplus One (still using It) and Oneplus 3t (for sale) I regret not having chosen oneplus again
Just to say one, I did some tests in night mode with the gcam on oneplus 3t and with the p30 pro ... In some situations the 3t won. More accurate color, more capabilities to zoom the photo after shot.
I hope, really really hope, that emui 10 Will solve most of thesw things... For now I'm very disappointed
Hi,
Coming from HTC10 then Sony XZ1 and XZ2 then finally this P30 Pro offered by my company and...
All I have to say is that this phone is the best I have ever owned and this in all conditions.
Battery life is tremendous 10h sot even while gaming.
Just went to NYC for personal trip and took more than 1000 pics and only 5 to 10 were missed due to my shaking hand because of the cold.
I also went to Madison Square Garden to a concert and video and sound recorded are absolutely fantastic.
The only thing I could regret is my phone is a branded phone (sfr) so they are late to push updates.
Apart from that everything is terrific
Make your choice and go to a sell shop to compare them by your own as every people is having a different usage and expectations.
But my personal opinion Huawei beats the OP7T... As I said it is only my personal opinion.
chrisftlse said:
Hi,
Coming from HTC10 then Sony XZ1 and XZ2 then finally this P30 Pro offered by my company and...
All I have to say is that this phone is the best I have ever owned and this in all conditions.
Battery life is tremendous 10h sot even while gaming.
Just went to NYC for personal trip and took more than 1000 pics and only 5 to 10 were missed due to my shaking hand because of the cold.
I also went to Madison Square Garden to a concert and video and sound recorded are absolutely fantastic.
The only thing I could regret is my phone is a branded phone (sfr) so they are late to push updates.
Apart from that everything is terrific
Make your choice and go to a sell shop to compare them by your own as every people is having a different usage and expectations.
But my personal opinion Huawei beats the OP7T... As I said it is only my personal opinion.
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I went to Prague, take almost 1060 (photo+video) after cleaning the album only 580 start. And in some conditions i takes random shoto with oneplus 3t gcam (better result than p30 pro)
I just returned 2 oneplus 7ts both had green tint in top half of display in dark mode poor battery life as well and camera OK but nothing compared to p30 pro and battery life
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Until OnePlus add an always on display I could not consider one tbh.
The P30 camera will be better too and with black Friday deals right now the price difference is not as big as has been before.
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Help me to make a decision what phone I should buy for my wife.
I like both phones and read and have seen a lot of reviews on the net and YouTube. Both phones looks great and have great performance even the camera looks stunning on both phones.
But I really don't know what phone to choose and what you can recommend me.
Which phone have the best performance, camera and battery.
Thanks in advance.
My wife love to take a lot of photos!
Camera may be better on the Mate 20 Pro but the X2 Pro has the better CPU.
I would broaden my horizons a little and go for a OnePlus 7T pro or 7T,the other two are inferior in almost every other way,I don't know about the Huawei but have been looking at the Realme X2 pro and it's got absolutely every spec you would want but still it runs with ColorOS.
I would always choose software experience over a spec and brand and OnePlus has the best balance these days. Ive heard that the next version of ColorOS will be closer to stock Android but that's a year or so away
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I would broaden my horizons a little and go for a OnePlus 7T pro or 7T,the other two are inferior in almost every other way,I don't know about the Huawei but have been looking at the Realme X2 pro and it's got absolutely every spec you would want but still it runs with ColorOS.
I would always choose software experience over a spec and brand and OnePlus has the best balance these days. Ive heard that the next version of ColorOS will be closer to stock Android but that's a year or so away
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Thanks for your answer!
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Camera may be better on the Mate 20 Pro but the X2 Pro has the better CPU.
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Thanks!
I bought a Huawei Mate 20 pro after eatching all the Youtube videos and reviews. I was pretty impressed.
BUT...
After using the phone for about a month, I keep finding these very annoying software glitches. And there is a tonne of them. My Display has got Burn-in. I came from Samsung ecosystem and they really did pay attention to the smaller things. Example like. If you are on call with a bluetooth device and if you get a notification or any app makes any kind of sound the call audio resets to headset speaker. Very annoying while driving. And there is no way to root or install custom rom. However the hardware is good.
So,I'm due an upgrade this year and usually stick with Oneplus and currently have a 6T,
My usual upgrade would take me to a Oneplus 8 but I'm reading not so many great things about these phones such as hole punch cameras and the price is gonna be crazy for the Standard 8 and 8 pro
But here we have a phone that will probably be similar in specs and possibly better in places with the X2 pro.
I'm not crazy anymore about OxygenOS,sure it's great but it's boring after all these years. A little more features or some might say bloat can be useful and I hear ColorOS is pretty good in this regard.
Oneplus has slowed with updates for older devices so I think I could live with less updates.
Would you guys upgrade to a X2 pro considering you can get the 12/256 model for €449 now on Amazon or should I wait to see what Xaomi do though the k30 doesn't look that appealing if it turns out to be the mi 10.
Did anyone upgrade from a 6 or 6T to this phone ?
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So,I'm due an upgrade this year and usually stick with Oneplus and currently have a 6T,
My usual upgrade would take me to a Oneplus 8 but I'm reading not so many great things about these phones such as hole punch cameras and the price is gonna be crazy for the Standard 8 and 8 pro
But here we have a phone that will probably be similar in specs and possibly better in places with the X2 pro.
I'm not crazy anymore about OxygenOS,sure it's great but it's boring after all these years. A little more features or some might say bloat can be useful and I hear ColorOS is pretty good in this regard.
Oneplus has slowed with updates for older devices so I think I could live with less updates.
Would you guys upgrade to a X2 pro considering you can get the 12/256 model for €449 now on Amazon or should I wait to see what Xaomi do though the k30 doesn't look that appealing if it turns out to be the mi 10.
Did anyone upgrade from a 6 or 6T to this phone ?
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If you are not in a hurry (you have problems with your cuerrent phone), you should wait until the next generation of qualcomme soc (next half year).
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If you are not in a hurry (you have problems with your cuerrent phone), you should wait until the next generation of qualcomme soc (next half year).
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Yes, Ideally this would be true but I think the next gen of high end SD chips are gonna be more expensive and power hungry due to uneeded 5g. a lot of mid range well priced phones from Xaoimi will be having mid range chips like 765.
I actually think there is a good case to skip the next gen of chips because they are mainly for 5g which most users in the world dont need
I personally encourage you to get this phone. ColorOS has some interesting features and it's rock solid. The phone is very responsive and I have a good SOT. Talking about battery, the VOOC charging is unbelievably fast! I have so much to say about the Realme X2 Pro, but the conclusion is that I don't regret my decision.
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I personally encourage you to get this phone. ColorOS has some interesting features and it's rock solid. The phone is very responsive and I have a good SOT. Talking about battery, the VOOC charging is unbelievably fast! I have so much to say about the Realme X2 Pro, but the conclusion is that I don't regret my decision.
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What device did you upgrade from if you don't mind me asking ?
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What device did you upgrade from if you don't mind me asking ?
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I did upgrade from Huawei p20 pro
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What device did you upgrade from if you don't mind me asking ?
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I just was with Poco F1. And it was a very good experience with it and said that I will no longer get other than Xiaomi ?
Probably the best value for the money at this time :good:
Pros
90hz Display which is very good
UFS 3.0
12gb Ram (top variant)
256gb Storage
50w SuperVooc
Great design & build.
Decent Cameras.
Cons
ColorOS still needs work and that comes in 0S7, with realme perhaps doing their own thing?
Cameras are just average (made better with Gcam) although as yet still not a stable build for the X2 Pro.
Overall for what you are paying them yea it's a very very good purchase :good:
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Probably the best value for the money at this time :good:
Pros
90hz Display which is very good
UFS 3.0
12gb Ram (top variant)
256gb Storage
50w SuperVooc
Great design & build.
Decent Cameras.
Cons
ColorOS still needs work and that comes in 0S7, with realme perhaps doing their own thing?
Cameras are just average (made better with Gcam) although as yet still not a stable build for the X2 Pro.
Overall for what you are paying them yea it's a very very good purchase :good:
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Pros: decent cameras
Cons: cameras are average
Some expert fence sitting there,lol ?
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Pros: decent cameras
Cons: cameras are average
Some expert fence sitting there,lol ?
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They are both in both categories as they are made better with Gcam but without I'd put in the cons as they really aren't that great.
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They are both in both categories as they are made better with Gcam but without I'd put in the cons as they really aren't that great.
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Lol,makes sense,though from what I've seen on YouTube and other reviews the cameras are pretty competitive with other flagships,not the greatest but decent in most departments,
I personally don't like using gcam because its usually unstable and annoying.
Still not convinced by the phone though with ColorOS though it should be interesting to see what colorOs7 is like.
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Lol,makes sense,though from what I've seen on YouTube and other reviews the cameras are pretty competitive with other flagships,not the greatest but decent in most departments,
I personally don't like using gcam because its usually unstable and annoying.
Still not convinced by the phone though with ColorOS though it should be interesting to see what colorOs7 is like.
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ColorOS runs just fine in terms of performance, it's just a bit disorganized, Cameras they are perfectly fine in good light, but I'd say they do struggle and the Samsung made GW1 64mgp sensor isn't great, but the price you can let the cam be the way it is, it's not shockingly poor, it's just average and the price point for everything else made it a great purchase for me.
Here is a pic in low light, (Curtains closed, no natural light) Stock Camera (using nighscape)
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What device did you upgrade from if you don't mind me asking ?
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They are both in both categories as they are made better with Gcam but without I'd put in the cons as they really aren't that great.
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The camera is great people just don't know how to shoot proper pictures
Made with 64mp mode
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Made with 64mp mode
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I did hear that the 64mp mode is very good even better than the 108mp mode on the Mi note 10. I suppose it's just low light photos I would be worried about and lack of OIS
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I did hear that the 64mp mode is very good even better than the 108mp mode on the Mi note 10. I suppose it's just low light photos I would be worried about and lack of OIS
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OIS is not needed in any kind of way thanks to the Snapdragon 855+ and 12 GB Ram
i can tell you the difference , when i was using the P20 Pro i had always lags making any kind of video.
using the X2 Pro with 30 or 60 FPS its like Butter , also the way the camera reacts like speed focus etc you dont even need OIS so trust me you would have a lot of fun
The Only bad thing about the Camera is the Night Shot Mode ... you cant compare it with Huawei
but without that its simply perfect in my eyes and i did a lot of pictures using the stock camera app
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OIS is not needed in any kind of way thanks to the Snapdragon 855+ and 12 GB Ram
i can tell you the difference , when i was using the P20 Pro i had always lags making any kind of video.
using the X2 Pro with 30 or 60 FPS its like Butter , also the way the camera reacts like speed focus etc you dont even need OIS so trust me you would have a lot of fun
The Only bad thing about the Camera is the Night Shot Mode ... you cant compare it with Huawei
but without that its simply perfect in my eyes and i did a lot of pictures using the stock camera app
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Huawei are very good for low light so I would never expect the X2 pro to compare.What about updates ?
I believe the phone will receive support for Android 10 and 11. Updates every two months with security patch and a big update soon to colorOS 7,
Have you received timely updates as yet ?
Tbh it's a huge upgrade over the 6t... It's better in everyway except oxygen and as I've said before to others the euro version from Amazon Spain is one of the most bloat free and fluid operating systems around. Regarding the camera I've got to agree with @natedogg20050 it's a excellent camera and if you know how to use it correctly I've mostly got better shots then my son's mate 20 pro and wife's view 20.... Then when you consider the price to spec it's truly unbeatable in my opinion. I've had the OnePlus 6t and loved it but to me the X2 pro is far better.
Edit: Regarding updates I've received 1 update each month since getting the phone.
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Tbh it's a huge upgrade over the 6t... It's better in everyway except oxygen and as I've said before to others the euro version from Amazon Spain is one of the most bloat free and fluid operating systems around. Regarding the camera I've got to agree with @natedogg20050 it's a excellent camera and if you know how to use it correctly I've mostly got better shots then my son's mate 20 pro and wife's view 20.... Then when you consider the price to spec it's truly unbeatable in my opinion. I've had the OnePlus 6t and loved it but to me the X2 pro is far better.
Edit: Regarding updates I've received 1 update each month since getting the phone.
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Thanks for the input,I looked at many reviews and comparisons over the last while and have concluded that the X2 pro is the best and most interesting deal out there.I am now bored with my 6T and wanted a change so this morning on Christmas I have just ordered my X2 pro 12/256 model in blue from Amazon Spain to receive it next week.
In regards to camera,most if not all the reviews I have looked at are positive. Ive seen that they have improved camera quality in recent updates also , particularly with low light shots.
I think people who do criticise are only nitpicking generally that a particular color may not be exactly the same as it is real life or stupid little things like that. The camera from what I've seen is excellent for the price including everything else.
Excited to use a phone with 12gb ram also,as I've only ever had 6 at most,90hz should be fun too and the little features of ColorOs.
Merry Christmas everyone.
I still cannot decide between OnePlus 7T and Realme X2 Pro. Coming from a really clean Moto G4+ experience and being kind of a power user (not gaming wise but regarding usage time & used features), I'm a little afraid that Color OS maybe couldn't deliver my wished quality. And video OIS and night capabilities of the 7T camera seems to be much better considering many YouTube comparisons.
On the other hand Realme offers super fast charging, interesting software features (three finger screenshot crop and all this nice little things) for a much lower price tag.