MediaPad M3 Lite NOT HW Decoding H.265 10 bit files - Huawei Mediapad M3 Guides, News, & Discussion

Hi guys,
Just wanted to share with you the fact that MediaPad M3 Lite / Snapdragon 435 does not HW handle H.265 / HEVC 10 bits files. Just got one for this purpose, watch movies / series and it always goes to SW decoder in MX Player (and others) for 10 bits files.
I am able to HW watch a HEVC [email protected]@Main 8 bits file, but when I use a Main [email protected]@Main 10 bits file, it switched to SW decoder. A file around 2000 kb/s bitrate seems to be processed fine, but a 3627 bitrate stutters a lot and the sound is no longer in sync with the video... Might look to get another one now.
Hope that this message will help someone.

Same thing happens on the regular M3 with the Kirin 950 processor. Noticed it some time ago but eventually gave up on trying to watch these videos on this device.
In my case they all play fine on sw decoders (mx player for example) but after a while the device heats up and throttling happens, and the video desyncs or starts to stutter badly.

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Slow video playback

Is anyone having problems with video playback?
WMV files they are played very slow (loosing a lot of frames). With MP4 I got best results but not the best. Any suggestions??
Thanks
WMV
I can't even get the above files to play
are you using Media Player? as video playback has always been awful on Medial Player on every pocket pc or smartphone ive everhad.
install TCPMP and video playback will be perfect, and will play any file you throw at it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387&highlight=tcpmp+diamond
Thanks for the tip keyz86. I'll try it.
no problem, glad to help a fellow Dimondarian
won't play
loaded the TCPMP but everytime I try and start it i get the attached error, using diamond help
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no problem, glad to help a fellow Dimondarian
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Dimondarian Cool hehehe
Has anyone been able to play a full resolution file without skipping?
I am using CorePlayer now but if another player works better, please say so.
With Coreplayer I benchmark about 85%, which is not good enough.
I believe the Diamond should be able to get 100%.
I found that an encoded mp4 file would play about the same as the original avi xvid file...
What do you use to encode videos specifically for the Diamond?
Come on!! Post your results!
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What do you use to encode videos specifically for the Diamond?
Come on!! Post your results!
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What video settings do you use with coreplayer ?
DirectDraw, GDI or what ?
This is what i get:
With these configs.:
But with some other videos i have i get only 88% speed and some frame drops and tearing.
Doesnt the Diamond has a good video hardware.
Imo, it shouldnt lag at all.
Ive read somewhere that it doesnt use the hardware correctly since the drivers were not fully implemented. Not sure if its true.
Still looking for a good solution... any more help?
Coreplayer is still choppy ...
Yeah, I wasn't able to get WMVs to play using this, either.
I think what we need to have a look at is which encoding, resolution, bitrate, fps, etc are optimal for the diamond using core player.
I'm experimenting a bit. Will report back in a bit...
I've just got my Ignito (diamond) a couple of days ago, but I've got a long history of video playback on hand helds. Since this is my first time post, and I happen to have a bit of time on my hands.... I'm going to convert a file into a series of different resolutions and settings to see which one will perform the best. I know the objective is to get a full res one to play, but I'll see what I can come up with.
Also, I'm using the default ROM at this time.
With Coreplayer you should use the 'QTv' display option - this is hardware accelerated and beats 100% benchmark on every AVI I have tried. If you get a blank display using this mode, you are using an old version and need to update.
Alright. After trying a bunch of different codecs, encoders, video and audio formats at various resolutions I came the conclusion that for now, full resolution video is just not possible without jerky movements during continuous motion or fast action scenes.
My eyes are very sensitive and I get really irritated if playback is not perfectly smooth.
So far what works the best in achieving this kind of natural playback is AVI as the output container with XviD video codec at 480 x 360 resolution, and mp3 audio. I set the video and audio bitrates to match whatever the source video was (min 864 kbps and max 1008 kbps for video and 192 kbps for audio).
Even then, CorePlayer is a must with the following settigns: QTv On, TytnII driver mode On and Smooth Zoom On.
Every now and again CorePlayer will show only a purple screen during playback when QTv mode on. At that point I usually do a soft reset and it starts working again.
This issue may be resolved with an upcoming release of CorePlayer (1.3) but until then, the solution above works exceptionally well.
I'd be very interested in anyone else is having success in other ways...
320 by 240 versus 640 by 480
I have done some playing with conversion and have found that the Diamond (currently) does not support the 640 by 480 settings with a good bitrate. The BEST conversion I have found (using Coreplayer to play back the files) is using the BETA Version of the Pocket Divx Encoder (http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/EN_index.htm) and using the HTC Diamond Template (NON VGA!!!!, there is a VGA and non VGA) that team has developed. They have done an excellent job!
The output settings -
Dimensions 320 by 240
Video Quaility - "36" ... 584 kb bitrate
Hopefully an update by HTC or coreplayer will be released to fully utilize the resolution that the Diamond SHOULD be able to support, but for a clear, non jerky playback, this is my 2 cents
im able to play those axxo dvdripson using coreplayer without any sort of convertion....
I want to share my experience. I am using core player and trying to recode unprotected high-definition TV shows (original resolution of 1920x1080) that I've recorded on Windows Media Center (.dvr-ms files) to watch on my Sprint Diamond. Unfortunately .dvr-ms are poorly supported, and the only program I've found to recode is TMPGEnc 4.0 Xpress.
I am using Core Player version 1.2.5 build 4506, and my video output is QTv Display with the Tytn II driver mode enabled.
Like everyone else here, I have had horrible results when converting the shows to DivX at 640x360 at any usuable bitrate (above 500 kbps). Benchmarking in Core Player yielded a playback speed of 66% or so (completely unacceptable, obviously). So I played around with the resolution and bitrate, and finally settled on the following:
Format: DivX
resolution: 512x288 (maintains the 16:9 aspect ratio of the original)
Video bitrate: 850 kbps
Frame rate: 29.97 fps (progressive)
Audio: MP3
Audio bitrate: 80 kbps, 48kHz sample rate
With those settings, I have a 104% playback benchmark with around 25 dropped frames compared to several thousand played, and about 29.5 fps. Basically, it is completely smooth audio and video.
I was still PO'd that I had to sacrifice so much resolution and bitrate on a supposed media device, so I played around with other formats. WMV was awful. MPEG-2 was awful, and avi was passable, but no better than DivX. I also decided to try h.264 (MPEG-4 AVC). Here are the settings I used:
Video Format: MPEG-4 AVC (saves as .mp4)
Resolution: 640x360 (still maintaining the original 16:9 AR)
Video bitrate: 1000 kbps
frame rate: 29.97 fps (progressive)
Audio format: AAC
Audio bitrate: 96 kbps, 48kHz sample rate
Core Player absolutely choked on this. It was unwatchable, and the benchmark revealed a playback speed of 50%. Dropped frames were higher than played frames (!) and framerate was 13 fps. Obviously not successful.
But, before I deleted the file, on a whim I decided to try Windows Media Player and...it was completely FLAWLESS playback. Absolutely beautiful, smooth motion, no audio stuttering, slow and fast pans were the best I've ever seen on a WM device.
Why??? Is there something I'm missing about this that someone can elaborate on? Is this the fabled "hardware acceleration" that I've read so much about? I should note that WMP had a hard time on a 320x240 .wmv file, so I can't really understand how it is able to play a 640x360 .mp4 file so smoothly. In any event, I have found my perfect file format, and, surprisingly, it doesn't involve Core Player in any way.
-R
The thing is that HTC didn't release any kind of SDK for Diamond or Touch Pro and companies like CoreCodec have hard time trying to figure out how to use the HW acceleration but they are trying very hard to improve the situation so maybe with time they will be able to use the HW for now the only way we wan't to watch videos with HW acceleration is only WMP which means recoding or atleast remuxing files.
Cheers
P.S. Could you post exact specs of the .mp4 file? What kind of AVC it was and things like that.
in regards to the WMP hardware acceleration.
is it better on battery life than having coreplayer trying its hard out to render a video. even if its a small 320x vid that plays at 120%. Does that mean that the cpu is running near max?

Hi10?

Any idea if this SoC can handle it i.e krait with h/w(+)? I don't care about other issues like color banding or blocks I just wanna know if can decode hi10 videoes with hardware or not.
Yami-chan said:
Any idea if this SoC can handle it i.e krait with h/w(+)? I don't care about other issues like color banding or blocks I just wanna know if can decode hi10 videoes with hardware or not.
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h/w decoding.. not sure.
MX Player on my T will play 10bit video files in s/w fine.
Just as any device made in 2011 or later with a dualcore cpu @ 1ghz or better it'll play 10bit "fine" in s/w mode. However, that is neither my question nor my point. If it's that hard to just try out a file in h/w+ then I might as well try else wear.
Point me to a file and I'll gladly run a test for you. Np.
I watch quite a bit of anime, and a lot of releases nowadays are 10-bit only and in 1280 x 720 resolution. I use MX Player now, but I've used Moboplayer previously with the same results.
My findings were as follows:
- All 10-bit video goes through the software decoder. MX and Mobo player both will refuse to use hardware mode, complaining that the video is not supported.
- The software decoder can handle 10-bit 720p video reasonably well, so long as there is not a lot of fast motion. When that kind of scene occurs, audio and video will start to desync, and it usually needs a pause and/or manual fast forward/rewind to get the audio and video back in sync.
- If you use soft subtitles (such as in an MKV file), the above desync will be far more likely to happen and far more pronounced. It also makes it very clear that the problem is with the video software decoder, as the soft subs and the audio will always remain more or less in sync.
In comparison:
- 8-bit videos of up to 1080p play via the hardware decoder and hence are silky smooth.
- Soft subtitles are not a problem for such videos.
All these findings are *not* group/encoder specific. 10-bit 720p videos from *any* fansubbing group will always go through s/w, and will always lag at fast action points.
Notes:
- I have not tried watching a lower res 10-bit video on the phone, primarily because nobody in the fansubbing scene releases a 10-bit video at less than 720p. There is a possibility that the software decoder will be able to play lower res 10-bit video with no problems.
- There is the possibility that the encoding settings that most fansubbers use are ridiculously and unnecessarily high in bitrate, or have some other settings that basically cause the software decoder on our phones to choke on the videos. I cannot confirm this nor do I have connections to current fansubbers who could share their settings.
- There is the possibility that it's Sony's implementation of the software decoder that is at fault. Turning the Bravia engine on and off doesn't seem to have an effect, but other parts of the software decoder that are beyond user control may simply be inefficient.
Lastly, according to my reading, so far the only chipsets that *can* run soft-subbed 720p 10-bit videos more or less flawlessly are the 4-cores. The 4-core Tegra 3 certainly can, with tweaking. I think the Exynos and 4-core Qualcomms can too, but I can't confirm it. I'm not sure if any of these have hardware decoder support for 10-bit.
Try Dice player or VLC from the market. I'm not absolutely sure but I believe those use their own decoding framework and you might get better results.
Yami-chan said:
Just as any device made in 2011 or later with a dualcore cpu @ 1ghz or better it'll play 10bit "fine" in s/w mode. However, that is neither my question nor my point. If it's that hard to just try out a file in h/w+ then I might as well try else wear.
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Well with that kind of attitude I shall not help you in the future.
Sent from my Xperia T using XDA Premium
I've already had friends test up multiple SoC's, and it seems only Tegra 3 has the instructions set for Hi10, thanks though. Again, any device with a 1Ghz dual-core SoC will handle 8bit videos flawlessly up to 1080p with h/w. And once again I keep getting answers that they CAN play 10bit files with s/w which again was never part of the question. Most players for android are based on ffmpeg which kinda defeats the purpose of trying others apart from the renderer itself.
And for those wondering, the limitation comes from your SoC not the player in the long run.

MX Player Pro - optimal settings for no lag with 1080p videos

Just updated my MX Player Pro (to the current latest version 1.7.19) which is arguably the finest Android media player - it plays everything you throw at it. I figured since the HTC One has the best full HD smartphone display with the industry highest PPI in the world right now, i should at least enjoy the maximum it offers. So, i played a full 1080p MKV video but it was lagging a little on my HTC One M7. I disabled power saving mode to unleash the full power of the Snapdragon 600 SoC, but the slight lag persists. By the way, i'm on stock Sense 5.0 with Android 4.2.2, never rooted and my AnTuTu score is 26511 so i doubt if my M7 is being slowed-down because of bloatware, defects, etc. I also closed all other running games and apps, but still the issue remains.
The specifications of the 1080p MKV video that i've tested:
File Size: 9.83 GB
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x800 23.976fps
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 640kbps
Subtitle: VobSub [Subtitle]
My current settings on MX Player Pro: i'm using S/W decoding for both video and audio. I disabled H/W+ for video, audio, drawing subtitles and aspect ratio correction. Basically, i turned off H/W+ everywhere in the settings. But then, i also tried enabling H/W+ for video only, and then for both video and audio. But still, the slight lagging didn't go away. I also downloaded a custom codec ARMv7 Neon from XDA forums directly from the Settings of MX Player Pro itself. Still, no luck.
So, i want to know what are the best MX Player Pro settings that you personally use to achieve a smooth viewing experience (without lag) when playing the most demanding videos, like 1080p? FYI, i have zero issues with 720p videos.
electronical said:
Just updated my MX Player Pro (to the current latest version 1.7.19) which is arguably the finest Android media player - it plays everything you throw at it. I figured since the HTC One has the best full HD smartphone display with the industry highest PPI in the world right now, i should at least enjoy the maximum it offers. So, i played a full 1080p MKV video but it was lagging a little on my HTC One M7. I disabled power saving mode to unleash the full power of the Snapdragon 600 SoC, but the slight lag persists. By the way, i'm on stock Sense 5.0 with Android 4.2.2, never rooted and my AnTuTu score is 26511 so i doubt if my M7 is being slowed-down because of bloatware, defects, etc. I also closed all other running games and apps, but still the issue remains.
The specifications of the 1080p MKV video that i've tested:
File Size: 9.83 GB
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x800 23.976fps
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 640kbps
Subtitle: VobSub [Subtitle]
My current settings on MX Player Pro: i'm using S/W decoding for both video and audio. I disabled H/W+ for video, audio, drawing subtitles and aspect ratio correction. Basically, i turned off H/W+ everywhere in the settings. But then, i also tried enabling H/W+ for video only, and then for both video and audio. But still, the slight lagging didn't go away. I also downloaded a custom codec ARMv7 Neon from XDA forums directly from the Settings of MX Player Pro itself. Still, no luck.
So, i want to know what are the best MX Player Pro settings that you personally use to achieve a smooth viewing experience (without lag) when playing the most demanding videos, like 1080p? FYI, i have zero issues with 720p videos.
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Try playing MP4 1080p files..they just play fine
and may be its because for both video and audio (5.1) you need S/W decoding and this may be the reason for your lag too
Even with S/W decoding too it should work but causes a lot of battery drain
I reset the settings and using S/W decoding everywhere. I restarted my phone and now it's working fine. I guess a good ole reboot did the trick.
I'm also using RGB 16-bit. I tried RGB 32-bit mode and haven't noticed any slowdowns or noticeable differences.
The original video file was actually in MP4 format but i wanted to mux the subtitle into it to end up with only one MKV file (instead of an MP4 file and its corresponding .sub subtitle file), so i used MKVtoolnix to merge the .sub file into it. Maybe it's the .sub file giving MX Player some extra work. Usually, .srt subtitle files are much lighter in terms of file size and for decoding as well.
electronical said:
Just updated my MX Player Pro (to the current latest version 1.7.19) which is arguably the finest Android media player - it plays everything you throw at it. I figured since the HTC One has the best full HD smartphone display with the industry highest PPI in the world right now, i should at least enjoy the maximum it offers. So, i played a full 1080p MKV video but it was lagging a little on my HTC One M7. I disabled power saving mode to unleash the full power of the Snapdragon 600 SoC, but the slight lag persists. By the way, i'm on stock Sense 5.0 with Android 4.2.2, never rooted and my AnTuTu score is 26511 so i doubt if my M7 is being slowed-down because of bloatware, defects, etc. I also closed all other running games and apps, but still the issue remains.
The specifications of the 1080p MKV video that i've tested:
File Size: 9.83 GB
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x800 23.976fps
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 640kbps
Subtitle: VobSub [Subtitle]
My current settings on MX Player Pro: i'm using S/W decoding for both video and audio. I disabled H/W+ for video, audio, drawing subtitles and aspect ratio correction. Basically, i turned off H/W+ everywhere in the settings. But then, i also tried enabling H/W+ for video only, and then for both video and audio. But still, the slight lagging didn't go away. I also downloaded a custom codec ARMv7 Neon from XDA forums directly from the Settings of MX Player Pro itself. Still, no luck.
So, i want to know what are the best MX Player Pro settings that you personally use to achieve a smooth viewing experience (without lag) when playing the most demanding videos, like 1080p? FYI, i have zero issues with 720p videos.
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the solution to your problem is simple,... you should try to play with s/w decoder in your mxplayer and it will go fine, it also offers much more loudness adjustments compare to h/w decoder,. you will see the option in front of you! xD
Personally i use hw+ decoder for every supported format. It plays 1080p videos very smooth here. For all the other formats you should try sw with yuv instead of 16bit or 32bit rgb.
mcrenz said:
the solution to your problem is simple,... you should try to play with s/w decoder in your mxplayer and it will go fine, it also offers much more loudness adjustments compare to h/w decoder,. you will see the option in front of you! xD
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very nice, you don't read but give advice..., dude he said already use S/W
 @topic i recommand use h/w instead and test with other video files also.
hw vs sw decoder?
I thought hardware is the only way to go and software is for last resort. My AC3s are playing back in stereo and now I'm trying to figure out why...
Thanks in advance...

Hevc 10 bit on T719N

Hi can anyone test video playback of h.265 10 bit video on this tab
wont work... even with mxplayer pro with custom codec play it slowly... the device is capable but the codec is not.
I played hevc 10 bits vids on a t815 tab s2 today.
Sweet as pie.

Huawei P10 4k / HEVC / h.265 playback problems on Laptop / Desktop PC

Hey folks,
I am using a P10 (VTR-L09) with EMUI-Version 8.0.0 and Android Version 8.0.0. Due to the camera problems of the android 9 update (see other posts here) I am still using Android 8.0.0. In Android 9 Huawei is switching to h.264 for 4k Videos but the files are much bigger and due to the not working OIS the results are terrible.
I am using video in UHD 4k 16:9 stereo and the quality is great. Huawei is using h.265 codec and the file size is quite ok. On the phone the video playback is good working.
But I am facing the problem, that I am not able to play the videos on other devices than the P10. On my i7 with Windows 10 and VLC player, VLC is stopping after a few frames. It looks like the video is corrupted. Converting the files via VLC results in a video with the audio stream and a black screen. On others players the videos stops every second. Other 4k videos are played without any problems on this machine. A lot of editing programs are not able to load the videos (I've tried to convert them to an other format). So it seems to me that Huawei is using a special version of h.265 codec or the are having an error in creating the video files.
Does any body know what "special" version of h.265 /HEVC codec Huawei is using or what the reason could be?
I know that h.265 need hardware support but the i7 should be powerful enough to handle that.
Looking for your answer
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