High QAM capabilities but poor Wi-Fi performance? - Huawei Mate 20 Guides, News, & Discussion

I'm using Huawei Mate 20.
First, the device claims to have Wave 2, 4x4 MIMO with MU-MIMO support.
Normally, smartphone only has 2x2 MIMO, including the closest rival, One plus 6T.
Sounds pretty good so far, but after I perform speed test, result shows otherwise. The QAM capabilities are good and I'll explain more in the conclusion. Below is my test result.
Do share your speed tests too! And let's discuss!
My Test Result:
2.4GHz:
PHY/link speed of 72Mbps (tested at same distance from router)
- Mate 20: 35Mbps down, 40Mbps up
- Samsung A7: 42Mbps down, 48Mbps up
- Oppo F9: 42Mbps down, 48Mbps up
With several other distances tested, the speed is always lacking on the Mate 20. Even lower end device like Oppo F9 is consistently faster than the Mate 20. What's happening actually?
5GHz :
Will test after I get my new router.
Conclusion
But the claimed QAM capabilities can be noticed when you go to WiFi setting and check the link speed.
With 5GHz 2x2 MIMO router, the link speed can achieve full 866Mbps (meaning 256QAM). But actual speed is yet to be tested, which I suspect will be having same issue just like on the 2.4GHz (below par speeds).
Wifi explanation on PHY, QAM, etc:
https://www.duckware.com/tech/wifi-in-the-us.html

I believe the 4x4 mimo is related to cellular LTE not to wifi

saw man said:
I believe the 4x4 mimo is related to cellular LTE not to wifi
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It's not true. The official specification of Mate 20 & Mate 20 pro, has WiFi spec below:
802.11 a/b/g/n/ac (wave2), 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/phones/mate20/specs/
So, why the actual transmission speed is slower than cheaper phones?

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HTC Kaiser. It is possible to work in HSUPA mode?

Hi All
Ukrainian operator U'tel upgrade his equipment. Now i can and possible to use HSUPA internet.
I know that in the chipset MSM HTC Kaiser's is present a possibility work in HSUPA. But, it is possible to work my HTC KAiser in HSUPA mode (up to 7.2 Mbit sec)?
Maybe need to change some values in the registry, or do something else??
ParaFoil said:
Hi All
Ukrainian operator U'tel upgrade his equipment. Now i can and possible to use HSUPA internet.
I know that in the chipset MSM HTC Kaiser's is present a possibility work in HSUPA. But, it is possible to work my HTC KAiser in HSUPA mode (up to 7.2 Mbit sec)?
Maybe need to change some values in the registry, or do something else??
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I think tytn ii support this (not really sure), but thinking since it support HSDPA (HSUPA for up, HSDPA for down).
My take on the speed question
ParaFoil said:
But, it is possible to work my HTC KAiser in HSUPA mode (up to 7.2 Mbit sec)?
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An interesting question and the answer, not beyond 3.6 Mbps. From the side of the box, the device specs specifically list:
HSDPA/UMTS: Tri-band 850, 1900, 2100 MHz
HSDPA: Up to 384kbps for upload and 3.6 Mbps for download.
As both HSDPA and HSUPA come in different speeds (even going beyond 7.2 Mbps with the latest and greatest revisions), it looks like 3.6 Mbps is a set limitation of the max upload speed imposed by HTC. Whether that limitation is set in physical hardware eg silicon, or firmware such as ROM or Radio code, I don't know but I suspect (just as with 'analog' modem chips) it's the former (forced obsolecence has got to be a good way of selling more chips down the line afterall ).
The relevant part of the Qualcomm Datasheet for the MSM 7200 chip reads:
Air interfaces supported:
- WCDMA (UMTS) R6
- High-Speed Downlink Packet Access
(HSDPA), up to 7.2 Mbps (Category 8)
- High-Speed Uplink Packet Access
(HSUPA), up to 5.76 Mbps (Category 6)
I'd imagine at least one of HTC or Qualcomm would have capitalised on any future upgradeability of the speed by mentioning it on advertising, spec sheets or packaging but nothing I've found (including in the xda-wiki) mentions anything about it being able to go any faster - just as well for me because my current network provider says their HSDPA network top speed limit is currently 3.6 Mbps.
Maybe someone with a deeper understanding of how these things actually work, can provide a more authoritive answer.

3G vs Edge

Is your 3G much faster then Edge, I just ran 2 tests firstly deleted cache, cookies and history then went to http://www.nationalgeographic.com in Opera.
On Edge it took 58 seconds to load the page then on 3G after clearing cache, cookie and history it took 45 seconds. I then tried http://www.cnn.com on Edge it took 56 seconds and on 3G it took 46 seconds.
There doesn't seem to be much difference for me between the two and I could probably make do with using Edge which while slightly slower is still fast enough, is my 3G particularly slow or is my Edge particularly fast? Is there really that much between the two.
The answer will depend on your network. In theory, on an ideal network,located close to a cell base tower, 3G should be many times faster than Edge, which is just a small improvement (double the speed?) over GPRS.
In the real world, or at least my real world in the UK on T-mobile, 3G is rapidly becoming a bit of a joke. What they don't tell you, is as the service becomes ever more popular, everyones speed drops. Also, as you move further away from the cellular tower, your speed drops again. And, using a small phone with an inefficient antenna, your speed drops yet again.
What starts out on paper as an advertised 7.2 Mbps 3G service ends up as 100 - 200 Kbps under normal conditions as described above. You will never, ever, see anywhere near the advertised figure. Nobody will.
You might well find, depending on your location, and whether your mobile provider has completely geographically separate 2G and 3G masts (as most do in the UK), 2G (or 2.5G as I believe Edge is known as) might be almost as fast as 3G if the mast is much closer and it has fewer users, despite being far slower in theory.
I have not done any tests. But, one of the reasons why I didn't want to get the D2 was because of no 3G here in the U.S. But, after using it with Edge I am pretty satisfied with the speed and streaming Cingular video.
I notice a pritty big difference between HSDPA and Edge, I can stream live football video on HSDPA, and when I try edge, it only just about streams radio.
There's more to the apparent speed of loading web pages than the raw download speed. For a page that contains lots of small images you may well find that the connection with the smaller latency is faster rather than the one with the fastest data rate.
I did a speed test at http://test.dslreports.com/mspeed and got these results
1st Run 88 kbit/s EDGE
2nd Run 51 kbit/s EDGE
3rd Run 95 kbit/s EDGE
then switched to 3G and got
1st Run 181 kbit/s 3G
2nd Run 106 kbit/s 3G
3rd Run 109 kbit/s 3G
4th Run 66 kbit/s 3G
5th Run 93 kbit/s 3G
6th Run 82 kbit/s 3G
So while the first 3 runs were faster then the EDGE results and last 3 runs were in EDGE territory, and the max I got was 181 kbit/s far slower then even the 1.8 mbit/s quoted for 3G, it seems for me anyway 3G isn't *that* much faster then EDGE.

WiFi 5GHz

Hi,
Can somebody tell me if it's possible to use WiFi 5GHz as a client after installing custom rom?
Regards,
redmi 4x hardware not support 5Ghz wifi, only 2.4Ghz
What kind of hardware is missing? CPU is able to operate in 5GHz: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/435
test_user7 said:
What kind of hardware is missing? CPU is able to operate in 5GHz: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/435
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The processor supports it I guess, but the WiFi card in the device only supports 2.4Ghz as far as I know.
Some cost cutting to make the device as cheap as it is.
as with many other things which snapdragon 435 support but is not enabled in redmi 4x
- specific 4g carrier bands
- quickcharge 3.0 (can be enabled in custom kernel)
- galileo positioning system
- 5ghz wifi
- etc etc
on the 5ghz wifi, am not sure if its just disabled by xiaomi or the 5ghz antenna missing (or there is dual band antenna inside phone?). so far no one make 5ghz wifi work on redmi 4x.
Cryslin111 said:
as with many other things which snapdragon 435 support but is not enabled in redmi 4x
- specific 4g carrier bands
- quickcharge 3.0 (can be enabled in custom kernel)
- galileo positioning system
- 5ghz wifi
- etc etc
on the 5ghz wifi, am not sure if its just disabled by xiaomi or the 5ghz antenna missing (or there is dual band antenna inside phone?). so far no one make 5ghz wifi work on redmi 4x.
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its on rr nougat go check
I think, it is problem of software, because 5GHz hotspot runs...

4G vs 4G+ on Exynos/T-Mobile

When the status bar icon shows regular 4G, I consistently get download speeds of around 100 megabits/second. When it shows the little + sign next to it, speed drops to around 10 megabits. Seems backwards. Anyone know how to force the faster speed?
hella356 said:
When the status bar icon shows regular 4G, I consistently get download speeds of around 100 megabits/second. When it shows the little + sign next to it, speed drops to around 10 megabits. Seems backwards. Anyone know how to force the faster speed?
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Can't personally say for sure, but based on your experience I would guess that 4G+ is actually HSPA+ and 4G is LTE. Definitely backward from a user facing standpoint. HSPA+ should really be called 3G+ but many carriers marketed it as "4G" when LTE was still fairly new and not near as widespread.
I've had the same issue at a few locations and from what I was able to gather 4G+ is for carrier aggregation i.e. it uses multiple carriers to provide the service. So the slowdown is actually due to improper implementation of 4G+ between each carrier.
5G is coming,maybe it is already here.
Probably means there are too much there is too much congestion on the 4G+ network, whiles the regular 4G network doesn't have as much which would you get more of the bandwidth
For me 4G+ is way more faster than 4G. Here in UK on 4g+ download is 100-120mb/s. In France 200-250mb/s!!

Question Wifi speed

My mi 11t pro speed on my sikka wifi is just showing 3 mbps max as broadband is of 50mbps
Even low end device like redmi 6 or note 10 is showing 24mbps speed on okhla test
Can anyone state why this is happening to my device.pls
Depends on the WiFi aggregation
I suggest to not see the download speed from the WiFi Info, instead of testing it properly.
My Galaxy S23 Ultra shows 800Mbps but on a Speedtest I reached 1500Mbps easily, for example
zSyntex said:
Depends on the WiFi aggregation
I suggest to not see the download speed from the WiFi Info, instead of testing it properly.
My Galaxy S23 Ultra shows 800Mbps but on a Speedtest I reached 1500Mbps easily, for examp
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Can i change wifi aggression as i am suffering really low speed

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