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Are you guys experiencing light bleed from the edges of your Note 8 screen. I just got my Tmobile Note 8 yesterday.

Wow...
I was hoping to god this wasn't gonna happen again.. I hated this so much with the Note 7 -_-
It isn't bad at all when the brightness is lowered, but looks absolutely disgusting when using the phone for GPS at night.
Last thing I want is for a $1500 phone to look cheap.
Apparently this is "natural" because of the glass and how it reflects light, BUT... all they had to do was wrap the black around it to block that reflective exit alone the edges.. But they didnt.
I may just take my note 8 back over this. I couldn't stand this on my note 7
OP, you should max the brightness, show a white image, and put a credit card on top of the screen and then take a picture.

Wow! I probably would have never noticed, but I do now. Thanks! I have a VZW but it doesn't seem near as bad as yours. Luckily my case covers it so I won't OCD over it, like the bubble I have in the bottom of my screen protector, going back to geek squad tomorrow. On my s7 edge I made them change it out 3 times. :angel:

HeRe4oNeReAsoN said:
Wow! I probably would have never noticed, but I do now. Thanks! I have a VZW but it doesn't seem near as bad as yours. Luckily my case covers it so I won't OCD over it, like the bubble I have in the bottom of my screen protector, going back to geek squad tomorrow. On my s7 edge I made them change it out 3 times. :angel:
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You probably aren't noticing it because it takes a relatively bright image closer to the edge for it to appear.
View a white image with maxed brightness while covering the majority of the screen, and you will literally see a white ring around the edge of the phone.
Super damn annoying -_-

imatts said:
You probably aren't noticing it because it takes a relatively bright image closer to the edge for it to appear.
View a white image with maxed brightness while covering the majority of the screen, and you will literally see a white ring around the edge of the phone.
Super damn annoying -_-
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After reading this post, I immediately took it out of the case, cranked the brightness up, turned the lights off, opened a web page, seen it! Aghhhh! On mine, it seems worst on the right side. Put it back in the case, took a shot, and now trying to forget it was ever there or my eyes will look for it every time, because it IS ANNOYING now that I KNOW it's there!

HeRe4oNeReAsoN said:
After reading this post, I immediately took it out of the case, cranked the brightness up, turned the lights off, opened a web page, seen it! Aghhhh! On mine, it seems worst on the right side. Put it back in the case, took a shot, and now trying to forget it was ever there or my eyes will look for it every time, because it IS ANNOYING now that I KNOW it's there!
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Sorry
If it makes you feel better, its only noticeable when the brightness is at a decent level. Plus using a case will get rid of it entirely.
I'll probably whip out the microscope and apply a fine line of black paint along the edge of the glass lol.

I wonder when they're going to get rid of light bleed. I've literally had it on every device with a screen that I've ever owned.
I thought that OLED devices weren't backlit. Blah blah blah individual pixels lit. Isn't that supposed to be a selling point of OLED screens? Where does the light bleed come from?

usmaak said:
I wonder when they're going to get rid of light bleed. I've literally had it on every device with a screen that I've ever owned.
I thought that OLED devices weren't backlit. Blah blah blah individual pixels lit. Isn't that supposed to be a selling point of OLED screens? Where does the light bleed come from?
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It happens because the glass is still thick enough to allow light to travel along the inside and exit throughout the edges.
This is such an easy fix too, which is why I don't understand why this hasn't been fixed. All they have to do is literally wrap the glass around the edges with the same material they're using the the top and sides anyway..

imatts said:
It happens because the glass is still thick enough to allow light to travel along the inside and exit throughout the edges.
This is such an easy fix too, which is why I don't understand why this hasn't been fixed. All they have to do is literally wrap the glass around the edges with the same material they're using the the top and sides anyway..
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Ahh, ok. Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. It's different than the standard LCD light bleed then.
Hopefully I won't notice it much while it's in a case.

Zero light bleed on mine.
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cmart0125 said:
Are you guys experiencing light bleed from the edges of your Note 8 screen. I just got my Tmobile Note 8 yesterday.
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A blast from the past. Identical thread in the Note 7 and nearly all other forums concerning the 'edge screen design'.
It is not technically "Light bleed" That term is reserved for a phenomena (problem-fault) often common with IPS panels.
What you are seeing is......how can one write.......light escaping NOT into the screen as light bleed but light escaping from the screen.....There is a gap between the body and where the display ends, this tiny tiny tiny space, in certain situations, can indeed shine light OUT but not into the screen and there is a difference but both can be annoying IF we become OCD about it. I guess this situation is part of the edge experience? As suggested by peers, a case will stop such micro reflections or light escaping.
Ryland

Ryland Johnson said:
A blast from the past. Identical thread in the Note 7 and nearly all other forums concerning the 'edge screen design'.
It is not technically "Light bleed" That term is reserved for a phenomena (problem-fault) often common with IPS panels.
What you are seeing is......how can one write.......light escaping NOT into the screen as light bleed but light escaping from the screen.....There is a gap between the body and where the display ends, this tiny tiny tiny space, in certain situations, can indeed shine light OUT but not into the screen and there is a difference but both can be annoying IF we become OCD about it. I guess this situation is part of the edge experience? As suggested by peers, a case will stop such micro reflections or light escaping.
Ryland
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So this is a known issue with Galaxy phones?
I've never experienced it with the Note 7 or currently with the Galaxy S8 plus. Is this enough to get a replacement?

Wow, this thread is like dejavu, I had to really look for it with max brightness in a dark room to find it on both my note 7's. I didn't think it was a big deal but some did. If I get the note 8 I will look for it.
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It sounds like you might have to go through more than one replacement to get one that doesn't do it.
Just for fun, I always follow the release of the new iPhone on Macrumors each year, and there's always a huge light bleed thread. I know (now) that this is something completely different than what happens with these phones.. People over there go through numerous replacements to try and get a perfect screen. Many never get one.
I will have my phone in a case from day one, so I guess that I won't see this.

Mine's good... no light bleed at all.

I am getting no light bleed at all. Turned my screen all the way up on a white screen and no light bleed.
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None on my T-Mobile variant. I put a full white image up just to be sure.
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I'm not seeing any either even with the brightness turned all the way up and various bright pictures. There's a slight change in brightness but that's to be expected with the curve but nothing like the pictures.

cmart0125 said:
So this is a known issue with Galaxy phones?
I've never experienced it with the Note 7 or currently with the Galaxy S8 plus. Is this enough to get a replacement?
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at least one guy on another forum has reported his light bleed and is getting a replacement in exchange.

So maybe some were built with more of a "gap" there than others.
The way my luck with electronic devices works, I'll definitely have it. Glad that it won't be noticeable when it's in a case. I won't even look for it, because then I'll know it's there for sure and it will bug me.

Light bleeding from edge of phone?

Noticed something for the first time today. Looks like there's light bleeding from the left side edge of my screen where it meets the frame. It's not uniform either so it makes me think that there was some sealent that detached somehow. Anyone else have this issue? I'll try and take a pic once I have another camera to use.

Looks like the same is happening to mine. Left side bottom corner. Actually seems to just be the paint under the glass is peeling away or something? Doesn't seem like it's physically open, compromising the water resistance.

Look like this?
Sent mine in like 2 weeks ago. Still waiting for them to ship it back.
They managed to replace the LCD and motherboard for some reason... wth Samsung

another thread...its not light bleed -
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/light-bleed-t3670247

Dang. That's too bright for a dark room.

Huh just noticed that on mine too. Not that bad though but still noticable.
Composed on Galaxy Note8

I've had 2 replacements so far. First one was on the left side from top to bottom. Second phone was all round. Looked the screen had it's own halo!
Interestingly the store manager said that this is not the norm having compared them against the the display phones in store and his own Note 8 which were all flawless!
Whether it's the light reflecting from the screen etc etc, i personally believe this should not be like this, not when there is so much inconsistency between flawless handsets and handsets with the light bleed.
Samsung needs to address this and actually take ownership.

This is one of the first things i checked when i got my Note 8. Mine doesn't have this "bleed"

Note 8 and S8/S8+ Edge Light Leak/Bleed Problems

Do you guys have the issue?
Bothering the hell out of me
Second device still has this issue
Should I continue to exchange until I get a normal one?

It's OLED screen, how could that be? You could put a photo on here.

edwinpang said:
Do you guys have the issue?
Bothering the hell out of me
Second device still has this issue
Should I continue to exchange until I get a normal one?
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It's not light bleed
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thread already here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/light-bleed-t3670247

It's common. Just like every issue, not everyone has it, but quite a few people do. I think that we all agreed on a few things:
1. It isn't actually light bleed by the standard definition. It is light leakage around the bottom of the screen, reflecting off of the metal of the bezel.
2. It has been around since curved screens have been around.
3. It does not affect water resistance.
4. It isn't being caused by the screen lifting. It appears to be happening because the black around the base of the screen isn't flush with the bottom. Samsung is aware of it and they don't consider it a defect. It's more of a tolerance issue.
5. Getting the screen replaced isn't a guarantee of a fix. We had at least one person on the above listed thread that had the screen replaced and ended up with the exact same issue.
6. Getting a replacement device is not a guarantee of this being fixed and instead, you might get a device with this issue and some other issue.
7. Most cases will hide the issue.
My wife and I both have Note 8s and both of them have it. I just put the phones in cases and forgot about it. Given the number of things that can go wrong with one of these things, there's just no way that I was going to try swapping it when it is likely that I would end up with another device with the same issue and/or something worse.

Because of the nature of what may appear to be a light bleed, logic dictate to me that an exchange, or screen replacement will not keep light from reflecting off the edges!

princeasi said:
Because of the nature of what may appear to be a light bleed, logic dictate to me that an exchange, or screen replacement will not keep light from reflecting off the edges!
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If the black around the inside edges of the screen goes to the very bottom of the screen all the way around, then you will not have the light leakage. The reflection happens when the black doesn't go all the way to the bottom and light reflects off of the metal. This is why some people don't have it. In those cases, there is no light leaking out the bottom of the screen that can reflect.

usmaak said:
If the black around the inside edges of the screen .
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What is this "black around the inside edges" you speak of?

Honestly, unless you getting "leakage" like this, there's no good reason to try and play the lottery. I sent it in to Samsung to get repaired. There's very little "leakage" with the new LCD panel and glass, but there's still a tiny bit, not super noticeable like before.
This is what I saw when looking directly at the screen. Yeah, it was pretty bad. You could see it during the day/lit room.

princeasi said:
What is this "black around the inside edges" you speak of?
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Look along the bottom edges of the screen. The actual image area does not go all the way to the edge of the bezel. All around, that portion of the screen is blacked out. If the black does not go right to the very edge of the screen, there's a very small area where light can escape and reflect on the bezel.

usmaak said:
Look along the bottom edges of the screen. The actual image area does not go all the way to the edge of the bezel. All around, that portion of the screen is blacked out. If the black does not go right to the very edge of the screen, there's a very small area where light can escape and reflect on the bezel.
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I'm asking what exactly is the "black" that you're speaking of? Are you speaking of the material that makes up part of the actual display? Is it the black paint on the side frame? What exactly is the "black"? Or is the "black" referring to the area where light is not reflecting?

None issue. I'd be more concerned about screen uniformity if I were a fusspot.[emoji9]
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princeasi said:
I'm asking what exactly is the "black" that you're speaking of? Are you speaking of the material that makes up part of the actual display? Is it the black paint on the side frame? What exactly is the "black"? Or is the "black" referring to the area where light is not reflecting?
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The black that I'm referring to is along the edge of the screen. It is the material that makes up the display, along the bottom edges. I don't know if it's paint or some other material.

usmaak said:
The black that I'm referring to is along the edge of the screen. It is the material that makes up the display, along the bottom edges. I don't know if it's paint or some other material.
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If what you say is true, this should be adressed by samsung. Can you point me to any credible sources substantiating what you're saying?

princeasi said:
If what you say is true, this should be adressed by samsung. Can you point me to any credible sources substantiating what you're saying?
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I remember seeing it here somewhere as well. Someone even pasted in a conversation that they had with Samsung. In the conversation, Samsung basically said that it was normal, which to them means it is within tolerance. There is a much bigger thread somewhere in here about "light bleed".
I also saw it somewhere else on the internet, but can't remember where. I stopped thinking about this issue about three days after I got my phone.

I've found a pretty simply solution to this issue. Get yourself some of the glue that's included in the Dome Glass screen protectors. I know they sell similar stuff on amazon, it's UV glue or something, I'd make sure ppl talk about using it to glue on smartphone screens. Since the stuff has a really low surface tension, it sucks itself into any tiny crevices, which include the tiny concave space between the frame and the screen. This stuff blocks the light from leaking, and it's just more glue, which they used to glue the screen on in the first place.
You can use the UV light on it to cure it, or just leave it. since it's such a small amount exposed to the air it it will dry on it's own. The thing I used to hold the glue was super stuck to something the next day and I didn't use the UV light on that, so the stuff does air dry.
I noticed this when I put on my dome glass screen protector and the part where the glue spilled over had no light leaking anymore.

I've found a pretty simply solution to this issue. Get yourself some of the glue that's included in the Dome Glass screen protectors. I know they sell similar stuff on amazon, it's UV glue or something, I'd make sure ppl talk about using it to glue on smartphone screens. dab on tiny bits of the glue, and since the stuff has a really low surface tension, it sucks itself into any tiny crevices, which include the tiny concave space between the frame and the screen. This stuff blocks the light from leaking, and it's just more glue, which they used to glue the screen on in the first place.
You can use the UV light on it to cure it, or just leave it. since it's such a small amount exposed to the air it it will dry on it's own. the thing I used to hold the glue was super stuck to something the next day and I didn't use the UV light on that, so the stuff does air dry.
I noticed this when I put on my done glass screen protector and the part where the glue leaked had no light leak anymore.

How big a problem is LCD burn/shadow on Note 8?

I was looking at refurbished Galaxy Note 8's on eBay and all the sellers list this problem. They have multiple quantities available though so I'm wondering if they just list this to cover themselves in case it has it or do literally all of them have this issue? I have the S8 and I know it has the same type of screen, but I've never had an issue. Is LCD burn also a common problem for the S8 and S8+?

I have my note 8 since Nov 22 2017, and it does not show any burns, shadows or abnormal tint/color anywhere, FYI, it is a LED panel, not LCD

Mc Binsk said:
I was looking at refurbished Galaxy Note 8's on eBay and all the sellers list this problem. They have multiple quantities available though so I'm wondering if they just list this to cover themselves in case it has it or do literally all of them have this issue? I have the S8 and I know it has the same type of screen, but I've never had an issue. Is LCD burn also a common problem for the S8 and S8+?
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Brought my Note 8 on almost the same day as Winol, no screen burn in for me either.

Ok thank you guys

I bought this about a year ago, it's there if you are looking for it. if not don't worry about it. Just use gesture navigation you are good for few years

Mine has bad burn in but it doesn't bother me

Sorry

Sorry

Done

Are you trying to take a screenshot of your burn in?

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Are you trying to take a screenshot of your burn in?
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I was wondering the same thing.
Anyway, on topic: I've had mine since about April 2018, which isn't as long as some others, but I also have no discernible burn-in. An issue I do have, however, is that my screen scratches incredibly easily. I have a couple of really bad scratches and some deep ones and I don't do anything funny with my device. It's either laying face-up on the desk or it's in my pocket. Some of the scratches has weird shapes to them that I can't figure out where they even came from or how. Other than that, no other issues or problems. Screen is still clear and very pretty and no strange artefacts.

Screen Burn-In is not really an issue, unless you are gaming or textings for really long periods of time. Or have a picture displayed on your device for over 2 hours.

I have massive amount of burn in of the whole keyboard,and the top of the screen. Irritates me to no end, I have reversed my colors of my keyboard but I doubt that will help

I see a really varying experiences about this issue, it reminds me about another issue with the sides peeling off, some posted very bad peeled sides, specially on black models, in the end I think these occurences might be batch-related, or pure and simple bad luck, my note, as many, many others
is more than a year old and happily does not have any problem whatsoever

Max_Terrible said:
I was wondering the same thing.
Anyway, on topic: I've had mine since about April 2018, which isn't as long as some others, but I also have no discernible burn-in. An issue I do have, however, is that my screen scratches incredibly easily. I have a couple of really bad scratches and some deep ones and I don't do anything funny with my device. It's either laying face-up on the desk or it's in my pocket. Some of the scratches has weird shapes to them that I can't figure out where they even came from or how. Other than that, no other issues or problems. Screen is still clear and very pretty and no strange artefacts.
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That does sound weird haha.

As far as the peeling, when I first got my Note 8, I could feel an unevenness on the sides. Turns out that there was a thin plastic film just like there was on the top and bottom when it came out of the box. I just peeled it off. Is that what you were talking about? I just assumed it was put on at the factory before it was boxed up as like the protective plastic on the screen and back. Was I wrong to peel it off? It didnt seem to affect the finish at all and shortly after that, I put the phone in a case anyway...

The units suffering the peeling problem showed a different color where the peelings occurred,
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/peeling-paint-t3689436
my note 8 did not have protective films at the sides, just front and back, and no peelings anywhere so far

winol said:
The units suffering the peeling problem showed a different color where the peelings occurred,
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/peeling-paint-t3689436
my note 8 did not have protective films at the sides, just front and back, and no peelings anywhere so far
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Interesting. Thanks for the link. The more I look in the XDA forums, the more I am second guessing my choice on getting this phone. Between the screen burn, the peeling paint, the charging port burning out, mysterious cracks in the screen, etc... I am wondering if I should have done a little more research. So far, knock on wood, this first month has been trouble free and hopefully it stays that way.
And as far as the protective plastic film on the sides, maybe it is a recent change that Samsung is doing? I honestly couldn't see it but could feel it and when I peeled it off, it was perfectly cut out to go around the buttons. One of the posts in the link you provided mentioned a protective film over the colored back glass to provide a better visual look. Maybe that's what I discovered on the side and was supposed to leave it on but I couldn't stand the uneven feel of it before I got the case.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Are you trying to take a screenshot of your burn in?
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Yes I am that slow. I can't believe I did that I wasn't thinking right.

jason504 said:
Yes I am that slow. I can't believe I did that I wasn't thinking right.
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Bahahaha!! That's great!:laugh:

Gap between screen and frame.

So I've just been using my phone in low light and ive noticed there is light showing through a gap between the screen and the phones frame.
It starts just above the power button and goes for about 30mm upwards.
Going to the service centre on Sunday. I really hope they replace it rather than try a screen replacement. I'm just worried it's the battery expanding.
I've circled it in blue. The light below it is the edge of my screen protector.
For the record my phone is unmarked never been dropped.

I noticed the same issue after I had my screen replaced. There was no gap out of the box, and now I'm worried about water resistance, on top of other things.

oddbehreif said:
I noticed the same issue after I had my screen replaced. There was no gap out of the box, and now I'm worried about water resistance, on top of other things.
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Mines never been replaced.
A chat with Samsung online told me to do a factory reset ?

clax6 said:
So I've just been using my phone in low light and ive noticed there is light showing through a gap between the screen and the phones frame.
It starts just above the power button and goes for about 30mm upwards.
Going to the service centre on Sunday. I really hope they replace it rather than try a screen replacement. I'm just worried it's the battery expanding.
I've circled it in blue. The light below it is the edge of my screen protector.
For the record my phone is unmarked never been dropped.
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Most of the note 9 got it, I also do and didn't have a single problem for 8-9 months. Returning the phone like that if not really soon after purchase will lead to refurbished phone given to you (99% about that) and I think it's safe to say that refurbished phone used from someone else and having God knowns what issue fixed (hopefully) is worse than having a slight light bleed reflection.
Still, while I am saying that I strongly think that 1000 euro priced phone should not have such a QA defects (even a 300 euro one should not). Beside that my note 9 is literally flawlessly perfect and my display is also 100% perfect uniformity (you can search for that problem, part of the screen are less bright vs others... and this is a deal break).