adoptable Storage under PIE. - Moto X4 Questions & Answers

Have anyone tried formatting the SD card as internal using the SM Partition command over adb?
We (me and my group on WhatsApp) have and it always corrupt the card, I am here now, because I would like to learn how to look for clues to troubleshoot this.
Because it makes no sense at all, pie is compatible with using adoptable storage and FBE, in custom rooms we are able to use this feature, feels odd that in the official rom we can't.

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LionLorena said:
Have anyone tried formatting the SD card as internal using the SM Partition command over adb?
We (me and my group on WhatsApp) have and it always corrupt the card, I am here now, because I would like to learn how to look for clues to troubleshoot this.
Because it makes no sense at all, pie is compatible with using adAptable storage and FBE, in custom rooms we are able to use this feature, feels odd that in the official rom we can't.
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I am also interested in this. Has anyone had success in setting up adaptable storage on Pie?

Tried with a 8gb sandisk... corrupted sd card after the process
i've tried with this tutorial: https://stackoverflow.com/questions...sd-card-into-internal-storage-via-adb-command

The problem is that modern consumer grade SD cards are not reliable for using as SSD. The number of write cycles is limited, the garbage management may corrupt card on certain conditions, etc. It is good enough that we can use SD card for camera and videos.

bookworth said:
The problem is that modern consumer grade SD cards are not reliable for using as SSD. The number of write cycles is limited, the garbage management may corrupt card on certain conditions, etc. It is good enough that we can use SD card for camera and videos.
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That's not really a problem.
You see, the SD card lasting around the same time as your device is all there's needed, because it's almost certain that when you replace your device you're probably gonna get a newer, better and larger card along with it.
Or on the off chance you're not, you can "afford" to lose a SD card faster because they are usually cheaper than a SSD, not to mention that apps usually have way less writing to the card can computer programs so it may even outlast SSDs.
I take my SanDisk exterme pro for example.
I have it it's been 3 years now and it's still performing exceptionally.
I've formated it countless times, as internal, as external, multi parted it for Link2SD, made and used SWAP partitions for expansion in performance on low ram phones, hell I used this card a lot and the old faithful is still kicking.

Formatting doesn't do anything to the card, writing gigabytes of data does and disconnecting power at the wrong moment does.
Not everyone buys extreme pro cards - most of the guys who can not afford bigger SSD will also buy cheaper SD cards - because, you know, they are cheaper. And no manufacturer is willing to explain why you lost your important pictures of your baby's 7 day anniversary.
If you want cheap solutions then go for cheaper products - I believe Moto G5 has the feature you are interested in. Maybe this is because with slower CPU's the user has less actual options for wrecking the SD card.

After the Pie update, In the Moto Help app under LEARN, I found this:
"Change storage type" "Go to Settings>Storage>Touch SD Card name>3 dots>Storage Settings>Format as Internal or Format as Portable". (I tried to upload a pic, but it won't load)
I haven't tried this as I am waiting on a new UHS-1 SD card hopefully delivered today! Also under the Moto Help app: "Using SD card as extended Internal Storage" you need to have a high speed SD card such as a UHS-1, "you can move DL apps, app files, media files to the card. This card is NOT readable in other devices and cannot be decrypted on other devices". Hope this helps...

PowurPlayr said:
After the Pie update, In the Moto Help app under LEARN, I found this:
"Change storage type" "Go to Settings>Storage>Touch SD Card name>3 dots>Storage Settings>Format as Internal or Format as Portable". (I tried to upload a pic, but it won't load)
I haven't tried this as I am waiting on a new UHS-1 SD card hopefully delivered today! Also under the Moto Help app: "Using SD card as extended Internal Storage" you need to have a high speed SD card such as a UHS-1, "you can move DL apps, app files, media files to the card. This card is NOT readable in other devices and cannot be decrypted on other devices". Hope this helps...
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Yeah it is supposed to be this way, but when you format the card it gives no such option.
I think the rom is bugged because the restrictions imposed was on fbe, now that pie fixed this, there's no such restrictions.
On custom ROMs this works as intended.

LionLorena said:
Yeah it is supposed to be this way, but when you format the card it gives no such option.
I think the rom is bugged because the restrictions imposed was on fbe, now that pie fixed this, there's no such restrictions.
On custom ROMs this works as intended.
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Which custom ROM this feature works?

abrfilho said:
Which custom ROM this feature works?
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As I have tested the Havoc was, and several folks on my WhatsApp group reported Lineage to be working too.

typically when I have a card go read only (bad) I clone it to a new card and it continues to work in the device. The whole encryption system in android is kind of a bummer because you can't read it on another devices. There is a lot of compromises for security that are made to satisfy the least common denominator. Like they could offer you a way to back up the key to another location, etc.

Not being able to use my 128gb card as internal on my X4 has me a little regretful for leaving Apple. If I had known they took that option away I would have sprung for another model. Hopefully they'll change that. I'm on stock Android Pie, so if any custom ROMs are out there I'm all ears?

biggdogg40509 said:
Not being able to use my 128gb card as internal on my X4 has me a little regretful for leaving Apple. If I had known they took that option away I would have sprung for another model. Hopefully they'll change that. I'm on stock Android Pie, so if any custom ROMs are out there I'm all ears?
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I recently purchased my new moto x⁴ after my beloved moto G6 (needs to be repaired [trying to get an estimate from Motorola] as both front and back are shattered).
I'm baffled about the storage limitations for SDcard integration as well. I'm struggling with this low storage space warnings with 32GB but far less for actual storage because of the incredibly huge system files. My 128GB available space on my SDcard is just 128GB when it makes no use via x⁴ .
Updated to PIE but making use of more storage capacity doesn't seem to be a priority. Can't wait until my moto G6 returns but I'll continue to research and see what options are available on x⁴.
Any and ALL advices are most welcomed with a huge thank you in advance.
SOMNER

somner said:
I recently purchased my new moto x⁴ after my beloved moto G6 (needs to be repaired [trying to get an estimate from Motorola] as both front and back are shattered).
I'm baffled about the storage limitations for SDcard integration as well. I'm struggling with this low storage space warnings with 32GB but far less for actual storage because of the incredibly huge system files. My 128GB available space on my SDcard is just 128GB when it makes no use via x⁴ .
Updated to PIE but making use of more storage capacity doesn't seem to be a priority. Can't wait until my moto G6 returns but I'll continue to research and see what options are available on x⁴.
Any and ALL advices are most welcomed with a huge thank you in advance.
SOMNER
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Same issue here. I bought the phone and even bought 128gb extra sd card to increase the space. But after I opened and inserted my card I realized it's not showing up extra space. I searched through many forums and found out that's it not possible to do so. I have tried ADB tool and formatted it as internal memory as per steps mentioned. But once I do that it says my SD card is corrupted.
Not sure what is the reason for giving SD card when you cant use it as internal storage. You don't have a gallery app and you already have all your photos going to your google photos, whats the use here.
As you said, will wait if anyone finds a solution. Please do post here in case you find a solution, I will do as well.
Thanks

kaka1981 said:
Same issue here. I bought the phone and even bought 128gb extra sd card to increase the space. But after I opened and inserted my card I realized it's not showing up extra space. I searched through many forums and found out that's it not possible to do so. I have tried ADB tool and formatted it as internal memory as per steps mentioned. But once I do that it says my SD card is corrupted.
Not sure what is the reason for giving SD card when you cant use it as internal storage. You don't have a gallery app and you already have all your photos going to your google photos, whats the use here.
As you said, will wait if anyone finds a solution. Please do post here in case you find a solution, I will do as well.
Thanks
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You can set the moto camera to write to scard is probably the biggest reason, outside of music storage. It does suck adaptable storage isnt working/supported.

SchmilK said:
You can set the moto camera to write to scard is probably the biggest reason, outside of music storage. It does suck adaptable storage isnt working/supported.
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Is the default storage of the camera photos to phone or its auto saving to google photos?

kaka1981 said:
Is the default storage of the camera photos to phone or its auto saving to google photos?
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Default is internal, but can be set too sdcard.
Then Google photos will detect a new folder and an if you want to synch

SchmilK said:
Default is internal, but can be set too sdcard.
Then Google photos will detect a new folder and an if you want to synch
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Last time I changed to SD card, the "Free up space" in Google Photos did not work for some reason.

jhedfors said:
Last time I changed to SD card, the "Free up space" in Google Photos did not work for some reason.
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Hm, I'm more paranoid than you, I transfer my pictures to my computer to free space.

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Running out of space

I am relatively new to Android and can't figure out how to install apps to my external sd card. My internal 11 GB is almost full so I want to move some larger games to the external card. Please help.
Look for apps2sd in Google play store..
Sent from my flying GT-N7000 with DarkyRom with Franco kernel on XDA Premium App!!
Thanks, I tried that app just now and it doesn't do anything different than what the built in system tools does. It just keys me move apps on the phone to the sd card. My question is how can I move apps from my sd card (internal) to my external card to save space and have the same functionality a if the were installed in the phone. It would be cool if you could just install apps like you can on a 32 GB iPhone.
gman901 said:
Thanks, I tried that app just now and it doesn't do anything different than what the built in system tools does. It just keys me move apps on the phone to the sd card. My question is how can I move apps from my sd card (internal) to my external card to save space and have the same functionality a if the were installed in the phone. It would be cool if you could just install apps like you can on a 32 GB iPhone.
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Thursday, March 29, 2012
GMan901 & XDA Members:
If you're willing to shell out the cash for a Micro-SDXC card, I can show you how to swap your internal and external storage (SD cards). In my case, I started out with a 16GB GT-N7000 (International Note) and an 8GB Micro-SD card. I had apps installed on my internal SD card and would put all of my media (music, photos, videos) on my external storage (8GB Micro-SD card); but in the end, it wasn't enough. I ended up running out of space on my internal storage anyway; and considering that there's no way to replace the internal storage, I had to find another solution.
Now, on paper the Galaxy Note officially supports a maximum of 32GB of external storage. However, several sources have confirmed that the Galaxy Note (at least the GT-N7000 anyway) is capable of supporting Micro-SDXC cards of up to 64GB in size, and possibly even larger. However, no matter how large your external storage is, it's still your external storage. Now, if you were able to swap your internal and external storage, you'd have a fixed, 11.5GB external SD card that you would never be able to change, but you would also now have an internal SD card that you could increase or decrease in size whenever you like. In my case, I currently have a 32GB Samsung class 10 Micro-SD card that I bought on Amazon and configured to be my internal storage. Also, If I ever need more internal storage, all I have to do is purchase a larger card, copy all of the files from the old card to it, and insert it into my phone. It really is a great setup. If you're interested in trying this, just let me know and I'll post the necessary file(s) and instructions.
Also, it sounds to me like you are a former iPhone user. If you are, you should know that I am as well. As a matter of fact, it was the new iPhone 4S that I switched to Android from. At first, I found the transition to be..... less than smooth. However, with a little help from the good people here at XDA, I was able to not only make the transition, but also discover just how much more powerful Android is in comparison to iOS. In all fairness though, iOS is, for lack of a better term, the perfect "everyman" mobile OS. But if power, control, and versatility are your bag, Android is the way to go. So if you are in fact a recent iOS-to-Android convert, please let me know. I'd be happy to help show you the ropes.
Let me know if you'd like to swap your phone's internal and external storage; and also let me know if you've recently ditched iOS. In addition to the internal/external storage swap trick, there are a plethora of other tricks, hacks, mods, and techniques that can be used on Android to yield an almost infinite number of effects, changes, and improvements. Android is very tinker-friendly. So just let mw know how new you are to it, and I can show you all kinds of stuff.
Thank you,
Ed (Mister_Mxyzptlk)
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Heck yeah, I would like to know! Yes, I was an iPhone user since 2007. A long as I don't need to root my phone out install a custom firmware, I would really like to know how to use my 32 micro sd card versus the ridiculous 11 GB the Note gives you to install apps and games. I barely had enough room to install Real racing 2.
gman901 said:
Heck yeah, I would like to know! Yes, I was an iPhone user since 2007. A long as I don't need to root my phone out install a custom firmware, I would really like to know how to use my 32 micro sd card versus the ridiculous 11 GB the Note gives you to install apps and games. I barely had enough room to install Real racing 2.
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Well, you will need to root your phone, but it's a completely reversible process. And if you do it correctly, you won't even trip the flash counter.
Anyway, we need to start with what build you're currently running. Could you check "Settings > About Phone" and let me know what build you're currently running. With any luck, it'll be a build that lets you use the ZergRush exploit. That way you won't have to downgrade your phone first.
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Hi Mister_Mxyzptlk,
I have the same doubt/need... I would love to learn more from your experience.
I am rooted and my build # is GINGERBREAD.XXKL7.
I don't mean to hijack this thread!
thanks in advance!
do you also repartition in the process of switching?
Same Problem
Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
Well, you will need to root your phone, but it's a completely reversible process. And if you do it correctly, you won't even trip the flash counter.
Anyway, we need to start with what build you're currently running. Could you check "Settings > About Phone" and let me know what build you're currently running. With any luck, it'll be a build that lets you use the ZergRush exploit. That way you won't have to downgrade your phone first.
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Are you still able to provide info. REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
Thanks.
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Root your phone, put the sd card in a card reader for your pc, make a second partition on your sd card (Fat32 oder Ext4), get the app Link2SD and your good to go.
Sent from my revived Galaxy Note
altae said:
Root your phone, put the sd card in a card reader for your pc, make a second partition on your sd card (Fat32 oder Ext4), get the app Link2SD and your good to go.
Sent from my revived Galaxy Note
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Thanks, but I don't have card reader, can I use phone to partition sd card.
You can have a look at my signature
I used two apks I found on here. They literally swap memory. My SD shows as 64gig USB and acts like USB.
sent by reversed alien technology....
storage space running out
altae said:
Root your phone, put the sd card in a card reader for your pc, make a second partition on your sd card (Fat32 oder Ext4), get the app Link2SD and your good to go.
Sent from my revived Galaxy Note
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Thanks....but still get above error.
RenegadeI said:
Thanks, but I don't have card reader, can I use phone to partition sd card.
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You can by connecting your device to a pc in mass storage mode and using a partitioning software. But it's kind of tricky. I tried several times to no avail so in the end I got myself a card reader. I recommend you to do the same, they are cheap nowadays. It's far more reliable than trying to do it with your phone.
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[Q] 64GB HD Card on Lollipop ROM - What format should I use?

I have been trying to find the best method for getting a 64gb SD card to work with my phone, and it has not been all that successful. I have formatted in NTFS, exFat and FAT32, all with varying degrees of success. Either copying files over leads to data corruption, or I cannot write from and to the SD card when it is being accessed by my device. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I am currently running CMPrime ROM v1.1Beta with the included kernel. I have also tried using it with Unnamed Kernel.
I just received my Samsung 64gb EVO MicroSDXC UHS-I card this morning. I popped it into my phone and it asked me to format before I could use it. So I clicked yes and then after that it just worked.
I am not sure what would be different for a custom rom as IU use the offical Lollipop 5.0.2. It shouldn't be much different though.
FAT32 is your best bet. I have a 64GB Lexar card formatted in FAT32 working fine with Titan Prime.
It's possible that something is wrong with the card. Does the card work fine in other devices? What brand is it?
Could also be a hardware issue with your phone, have you tried other cards?
Use fat32 no other file system
thisisjason said:
FAT32 is your best bet. I have a 64GB Lexar card formatted in FAT32 working fine with Titan Prime.
It's possible that something is wrong with the card. Does the card work fine in other devices? What brand is it?
Could also be a hardware issue with your phone, have you tried other cards?
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I bought a no-name SD card from a Chinese manufacturer, because I figured "why not." I know quality of SD cards vary across manufacturers, but since it's an established technology and relatively easy to make, I thought it'd be worth a chance. Some quick Google-Fu showed that it is not a completely isolated issue related to SD failure.
I have a 32gb card that I'm using without any issues. I'm asking specifically about 64gb, because 32gb seems to be the max size for external storage.
mauley said:
I just received my Samsung 64gb EVO MicroSDXC UHS-I card this morning. I popped it into my phone and it asked me to format before I could use it. So I clicked yes and then after that it just worked.
I am not sure what would be different for a custom rom as IU use the offical Lollipop 5.0.2. It shouldn't be much different though.
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I usually give ROM info, because it is common courtesy for dev communities. I have read that formatting through the device only accomplishes a rather crude job, and that file structures can be unsound. I know FAT32 is the standard, but it is an old format that has size limitations.
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Use fat32 no other file system
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But what about the limitations regarding max. file size and data transfer speeds?
I believe you should be able to use NTFS or exFAT with the kernal you're running, though I don't know if there might be any bugs or compatibility issues with some cards. If even FAT32 isn't working correctly, my suspicion if that you have a bad MicroSD card. As a rule of thumb I always buy brand name from reputable sources when it comes to microsd cards. I know those cheap ones look tempting, but the quality issues with them are legit, so it's a real crapshoot.
And yes, you'll run into the same old limitations with FAT32 in terms of file size, etc., but I use it anyway since it has the widest support across devices and I sometimes swap my cards.
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I believe you should be able to use NTFS or exFAT with the kernal you're running, though I don't know if there might be any bugs or compatibility issues with some cards. If even FAT32 isn't working correctly, my suspicion if that you have a bad MicroSD card. As a rule of thumb I always buy brand name from reputable sources when it comes to microsd cards. I know those cheap ones look tempting, but the quality issues with them are legit, so it's a real crapshoot.
And yes, you'll run into the same old limitations with FAT32 in terms of file size, etc., but I use it anyway since it has the widest support across devices and I sometimes swap my cards.
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I am inclined to call this a bad SD card, but I want to rule out all other possible reasons. Null Hypothesis and all that.
In terms of performance of FAT32, it is registered by the ROM, and it is visible in recovery. But my music files are not readable in Google Music or any other music app. I've tried moving them to /sdcard1/media/music and it is still balls. This kind of behavior leads me to think that it is an actual formatting issue.
mrbubs3 said:
I am inclined to call this a bad SD card, but I want to rule out all other possible reasons. Null Hypothesis and all that.
In terms of performance of FAT32, it is registered by the ROM, and it is visible in recovery. But my music files are not readable in Google Music or any other music app. I've tried moving them to /sdcard1/media/music and it is still balls. This kind of behavior leads me to think that it is an actual formatting issue.
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Google Music would actually register and access the music files in NTFS.
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But what about the limitations regarding max. file size and data transfer speeds?
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Max file size for fat32 is 4GB-1byte. Should be not a problem unless you plan on putting e.g. large hd-movies on the card. Speed isn't affected by the partition type (actually it is, but it's negligible in this case). No-name sdcards are often manufactured with low quality check standards. They sell cards that would normaly get tossed into trash. I use a 64gb card with no problem whatsoever. On windows use http://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/ because windows will only allow up to 32gb. On linux use gparted.
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Max file size for fat32 is 4GB-1byte. Should be not a problem unless you plan on putting e.g. large hd-movies on the card. Speed isn't affected by the partition type (actually it is, but it's negligible in this case). No-name sdcards are often manufactured with low quality check standards. They sell cards that would normaly get tossed into trash. I use a 64gb card with no problem whatsoever. On windows use http://www.easeus.com/partition-manager/ because windows will only allow up to 32gb. On linux use gparted.
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I occasionally save audio recording/mixing sessions as OMF files, which can end up being really large, particularly if I export at 64-bit sampling and 96khz frequency. So the 4gb limit can be a bit annoying to deal with, in that regard.
I wasn't aware about the cheaper SDcards potentially being of b or failed stock. I'll probably buy a new card under a trusted brand, and report back.
mrbubs3 said:
I occasionally save audio recording/mixing sessions as OMF files, which can end up being really large, particularly if I export at 64-bit sampling and 96khz frequency. So the 4gb limit can be a bit annoying to deal with, in that regard.
I wasn't aware about the cheaper SDcards potentially being of b or failed stock. I'll probably buy a new card under a trusted brand, and report back.
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Acquired a Sandisk MicroSDXC Ultra UHS-1 64gb card. Tried using it in my android phone. I am able to load files onto the SD card as before, but I still experienced the same issues with Media Scanner failing to account for my music files on External SD. Worse yet, my Titanium Backup files became corrupted when trying to access them via the device. I did a Nandroid Backup and tried a clean install to rule out any potential conflicts with my ROM, only to find that the issues remained, and the Nandroid disappeared from the TWRP backup folder.
At this point, I'm starting to think that it's an issue with the phone itself. WHY CAN I NOT HAVE 64GB OF SPACE, MOTO G!!!?
I bought a sandisk 64gb card off amazon on black Friday, immediately put it in my phone and let the device format it.
Later, I put the SD card in my computer so I could create a 2nd partition for ext4 storage.
The phone had formatted the card Fat32...has been working just fine since then.
agentaaron said:
I bought a sandisk 64gb card off amazon on black Friday, immediately put it in my phone and let the device format it.
Later, I put the SD card in my computer so I could create a 2nd partition for ext4 storage.
The phone had formatted the card Fat32...has been working just fine since then.
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When I try to mount the SD card in the phone, it does not register. It only works after I format to FAT32 using TWRP. So I will probably try that.
So 32gb in FAT32, then 32GB in Ext4, and leave back-ups/other files there?
64 card files wont all play
Hi I have a new moto g, I also put in a 64 sd card, while the music files seemed to play fine, video and other files the phone reads some of them not others, I put the same file internally and on the sd card and it reads the internal version of the file. I gather from this forum (though I may be wrong) I need format the sd card, I have no idea how to do that, any help would be appreciated.
mrbubs3 said:
When I try to mount the SD card in the phone, it does not register. It only works after I format to FAT32 using TWRP. So I will probably try that.
So 32gb in FAT32, then 32GB in Ext4, and leave back-ups/other files there?
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My understanding is that, if you have a FAT32 SD Card, then larger files (4gb+) cannot be read. ExFAT and NFTS should solve this problem, but I am still dealing with issues of reliability with my card accessing my music files post-formatting.
Finally discovered the problem. I downloaded SD Insight from the Play Store, and I found that the SD cards I got off ebay were invalid (including the Sandisk SD Card). I picked up a PNY High Performance 64GB Micro Secure Digital Extended Capacity (microSDXC) Flash Media Card from a local computer store, and after formatting to FAT32, everything works.
Moral of the story: buy your **** from a store.
I'm currently using CM 14.1 20161225 with a 32 GB SD NTFS formatted and experiencing some weird problems with Camera/Gallery, Music, etc. when on the SD.
So before I go back to FAT32 on a 64 GB SD I now have I would like to ask if anyone can comfirm exFAT would be working fine on titan CM14.1 or LineageOS?
ChriMo said:
I'm currently using CM 14.1 20161225 with a 32 GB SD NTFS formatted and experiencing some weird problems with Camera/Gallery, Music, etc. when on the SD.
So before I go back to FAT32 on a 64 GB SD I now have I would like to ask if anyone can comfirm exFAT would be working fine on titan CM14.1 or LineageOS?
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Format your card to EXT4, works fine with any rom and has no file size limitations.
..::X-FILES::.. said:
Format your card to EXT4, works fine with any rom and has no file size limitations.
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Sorry no good option when pushing files over and back from Win10 so I would prefer to know exFAT experiences since Win10 should be working fine with it.
ChriMo said:
Sorry no good option when pushing files over and back from Win10 so I would prefer to know exFAT experiences since Win10 should be working fine with it.
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That's strange, i have no problems with mtp in win7, looks like win10 doesn't worth updating. Btw, i tried exFAT before and it strangely limited file size to 4 GB like in FAT32.

SD problem with 6.0

See the picture.
How come SD becomes xxxx-xxxx, and the number changes after changing SD card?
This can be a hassle to save files onto memory card.
mingkee said:
See the picture.
How come SD becomes xxxx-xxxx, and the number changes after changing SD card?
This can be a hassle to save files onto memory card.
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that's normal with MM when you choose the SD Card as "Portable Storage",
MM Handles SD Card differently in this version of Android, there is 2 options when you insert your sd card which are :
1- Adoptable Storage
-Android 6.0 introduces the ability to adopt external storage media to act like internal storage. (YOU CAN'T REMOVE FROM DEVICE, SD Card becomes part of your device when this is selected) You can Read more about it here "Adopt. Storage"
2- Portable Storage
- This Options doesn't act like internal storage but as normal storage you can take your sdcard out without a problem and connected to you PC using a SD Card adapter.
as you can see in my attachment, i have the sd card as Portable Storage,
mingkee said:
See the picture.
How come SD becomes xxxx-xxxx, and the number changes after changing SD card?
This can be a hassle to save files onto memory card.
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As mentioned by DrakenFX, this is the default behavior in Android 6.0+. If you don't want to deal with it, then the best option would be to use a larger capacity SD card to avoid having to switch it out. Personally, I can't use the Adoptable Storage option, since I change ROMs pretty often, and this would destroy my data when doing so. However, using a large capacity card, such as a 64GB, 128GB, or 200GB card, I can use only that one card to store my movies, music, and other large files.
cajunflavoredbob said:
As mentioned by DrakenFX, this is the default behavior in Android 6.0+. If you don't want to deal with it, then the best option would be to use a larger capacity SD card to avoid having to switch it out. Personally, I can't use the Adoptable Storage option, since I change ROMs pretty often, and this would destroy my data when doing so. However, using a large capacity card, such as a 64GB, 128GB, or 200GB card, I can use only that one card to store my movies, music, and other large files.
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i just thinking out of the box here, but if we create 2 Partitions of the same format in the sdcard will MM see this partitions as 2 different partitions as use 1 as portable storage and the other one as adoptable? or MM just deal with as just single one and convert/format the whole thing?....
i have to give it a try and see the results but right now to late for me and need to move 40gb from my card to do some testing
DrakenFX said:
i just thinking out of the box here, but if we create 2 Partitions of the same format in the sdcard will MM see this partitions as 2 different partitions as use 1 as portable storage and the other one as adoptable? or MM just deal with as just single one and convert/format the whole thing?....
i have to give it a try and see the results but right now to late for me and need to move 40gb from my card to do some testing
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When you select Adoptable Storage, it will format the whole physical card to use for storage. Two partitions will only work for making it see two portable storage devices.
cajunflavoredbob said:
When you select Adoptable Storage, it will format the whole physical card to use for storage. Two partitions will only work for making it see two portable storage devices.
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other words , Won't work then LoL :crying:
either way i guess i have a 8gb laying around will do the 4gb each partition and give it a shot
P.S. Sorry for been little off topic
Well, you could try setting your SDcards to the same volume # with VolumeID.
That's good, but not great idea... I have references to docs/sync jobs etc in apps that are path specific, which would all break simply by changing the sdcard.
I've had the htc m7/m8 before and the sd card is usually reference-able via /storage/ext_sd
Samsung uses external_sd
this is both in MM, so I doubt its an android issue. Is there some way to detect the removable / external sdcard and either:
(a) mount it as ext_sd (instead of XXXX-XXXX)
or
(b) dynamically create a symlink to whatever XXXX-XXXX happens to be so all the app references are not messed up?
not that its a life or death situation, but its just... um - "yuck"

Does 'adaptable' storage on the Note 8?

Has anyone tried the 'adaptable' storage hack on the Note 8 yet?
Worked on my S7.
I have the same question
I was thinking about doing this but from what I hear it's more trouble than it's worth but if anyone whose done it would like to chime in I'm sure we'd all greatly appreciate it.
GallardosEggrollShop said:
I was thinking about doing this but from what I hear it's more trouble than it's worth but if anyone whose done it would like to chime in I'm sure we'd all greatly appreciate it.
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I feel the same way. More trouble than its worth. The 64GB is plenty for all your apps and for everything else you have your fat Micro SD card.
I can't find half a reason to bother with it. 1. Many apps, especially larger one will use SD card for storage, if not you can set it to do so in settings. 2. SD card is slower than internal memory, so frequently used programs shouldn't be there 3. It creates whole lot of problems if SD card goes bad and yes, had this happen to me multiple times on Sandisk included. 4. it can get complicated when you swap the cards between phones, computers etc and you use the phone without dedicated SD card inside 5. If you really think 64GB internal storage doesn't do it, hunt for elusive 128 and 256 GB versions. They should show up somewhere.
The only a reason to do it I can think off: "because I can?"
I wouldn't do it unless the UFS ever comes out. Supposed to be a lot faster external storage.
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If anybody does want to enable adoptable storage on the Note8 despite the potential issues, try ashyx's patch here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/patch-adoptable-storage-enabler-t3460478
Note:
- You will need TWRP installed.
- It might not work for you. I've only tested it with Renovate.
- You will need to use adb to set up your sd card.
You won't do it on an unrooted phone. Samsung never implemented it.
The phone's built in memory is far faster than any SD card at this point. You'd be slowing your phone down... and not by just a little bit.
I beg to differ
Agree the phones internal memory is tops right now.
Disagree the phone will be slow if you offload storage.
Source: i have virtually every app i use daily (Save a couple) moved to SD card and ive noticed NO.. I repeat NO.. noticeable difference in speed or issue by moving these apps. And im talking about WhatsApp, textra, several video playing apps, Instagram, Snapchat, outlook mobile, and some other apps.
There is SOME residual data from these apps that LIVE on the internal storage—perhaps this left over data keeps the app from bottlenecking from the SD card. This is speculation though.
If interested, in mexico, the largest carrier, telcel offers the 128 Gb model

Sd card query

Hello fellow Note 9'ers! I've got a 32gb card just sitting in a drawer doing nothing whatsoever and was wondering about installing it into my N9. A few Q's come to mind.
1. How does the card fit into the slot? It looked too big for a micro sd card.
2. Does having an sd card typically make the device work harder as it periodically scans the drive when being accessed and having files moved to and from it.
3. What do you tend to store upon the sd card? Pictures? Films? Music? Camera stores locally in the camera folder so it would be manual moves if using sd card as a backup.. I'm looking to understand people's usage to see if it's some method I'd follow.
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1. SD card vs. microSD card? The Note9 only takes microSD cards, and if you have one, it should go in just nice. It needs a bit of a push to "click" the card in the holder, and it goes in more easily in certain ways (which edge is inserted first, which way the card is pushed sideways a bit, etc.)
2. Typically just having the microSD card in does not affect the phone's performance in general, unless one has some anti-malware software that has been designed in a very stupid way. However, any access to that microSD card (when such access is needed) are somewhat slower than to the internal storage, but one typically does not even notice the difference. There are some use cases where it can be very noticeable, though.
Files are only moved in/out of it if/when one tells the phone to do so, it does not happen all the time or even "periodically". (Note, this phone apparently does not support installing the card as an extension of the internal storage; in that method there could be less control on what and when gets stored/moved on the card.)
3. The phone automatically switches at least some things to be stored on microSD card as soon as it is installed. E.g. the Samsung camera app automatically switches the target storage to the card instead of internal memory, so new photos/videos will go to the card. One can still adjust that setting manually. (Photos already on the internal storage are not automatically moved.) However, this behavior would be app-specific, i.e. whether one needs to manually change such setting or not, and if such is even possible in an app.
These phones have a built-in "file browser"-style app so moving almost any normal files between internal storage and card is possible, though one might need to know what he is doing, not just blindly move everything
The most typical things to be stored on the card are indeed the "media" files: photos, videos, music. One can move also some apps from internal storage to card, but this needs more consideration (i.e. card random access speed vs. how the app needs storage access). Also, Note 9 having so much internal storage space, moving the apps to the card is not as needed as with some other phones.
6thtry said:
1. SD card vs. microSD card? The Note9 only takes microSD cards, and if you have one, it should go in just nice. It needs a bit of a push to "click" the card in the holder, and it goes in more easily in certain ways (which edge is inserted first, which way the card is pushed sideways a bit, etc.)
2. Typically just having the microSD card in does not affect the phone's performance in general, unless one has some anti-malware software that has been designed in a very stupid way. However, any access to that microSD card (when such access is needed) are somewhat slower than to the internal storage, but one typically does not even notice the difference. There are some use cases where it can be very noticeable, though.
Files are only moved in/out of it if/when one tells the phone to do so, it does not happen all the time or even "periodically". (Note, this phone apparently does not support installing the card as an extension of the internal storage; in that method there could be less control on what and when gets stored/moved on the card.)
3. The phone automatically switches at least some things to be stored on microSD card as soon as it is installed. E.g. the Samsung camera app automatically switches the target storage to the card instead of internal memory, so new photos/videos will go to the card. One can still adjust that setting manually. (Photos already on the internal storage are not automatically moved.) However, this behavior would be app-specific, i.e. whether one needs to manually change such setting or not, and if such is even possible in an app.
These phones have a built-in "file browser"-style app so moving almost any normal files between internal storage and card is possible, though one might need to know what he is doing, not just blindly move everything [emoji14]
The most typical things to be stored on the card are indeed the "media" files: photos, videos, music. One can move also some apps from internal storage to card, but this needs more consideration (i.e. card random access speed vs. how the app needs storage access). Also, Note 9 having so much internal storage space, moving the apps to the card is not as needed as with some other phones.
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Thank you ever so much for your thorough and detailed response! XDA to the rescue!
I need to decide if it's actually needed. Whilst it could be a good backup area for pictures it is also more likely to corrupt.. decisions decisions!
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Better stick with internal storage or go cloud with Google drive.
What?! No smart alek responses and no idiots screaming about searching first??? Really... I was chastised about a hardcore question and this total ridiculous question is answered without ridicule? What a joke.
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What?! No smart alek responses and no idiots screaming about searching first??? Really... I was chastised about a hardcore question and this total ridiculous question is answered without ridicule? What a joke.
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screw u OJ.
OJsakila said:
What?! No smart alek responses and no idiots screaming about searching first??? Really... I was chastised about a hardcore question and this total ridiculous question is answered without ridicule? What a joke.
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Merely getting peoples own user experience regarding the use of an sd card on their own devices. [emoji851]
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