Notification light? - LG V40 Questions & Answers

I could've swore I seen info about the v40 having a notification led. Does it have one or no?
I'm asking because a recent video I saw, stated it didn't have one.

Hehh, it doesn't. And I just noticed this after having the phone for 2 weeks.
It does have edge lighting when its locked/off tho. And that is really neat.

chelseytx said:
Hehh, it doesn't. And I just noticed this after having the phone for 2 weeks.
It does have edge lighting when its locked/off tho. And that is really neat.
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That sucks. I hated that about the v30.
I'll have to look up the edge lighting.
Edit: Just seen edge lighting and it's nowhere near as good as an led. Man, I may have to reconsider this phone now.

Its really neat to watch. It moves around the screen and glows alternatingly. I want to say it changes color too.

chelseytx said:
Its really neat to watch. It moves around the screen and glows alternatingly. I want to say it changes color too.
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But it doesn't go on continually.

True, but who now-a-days doesn't automatically check their phone when they pick it up. Light or no light? Its instinct - at least for me - to pick up the phone and hit the screen to open it and look at my notifications.

chelseytx said:
True, but who now-a-days doesn't automatically check their phone when they pick it up. Light or no light? Its instinct - at least for me - to pick up the phone and hit the screen to open it and look at my notifications.
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At work I don't just pick up my phone. If I come back to my desk and see a certain color led, I know I need to pick it up.

20degrees said:
At work I don't just pick up my phone. If I come back to my desk and see a certain color led, I know I need to pick it up.
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ah. Okay. True.

Yeah funny how I thought we have it but nope. Not a big deal especially wit always on display.

AoD is far better. Notification lights doesn't mean anything. Just a color flashing

twoxa said:
Yeah funny how I thought we have it but nope. Not a big deal especially wit always on display.
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guytano86 said:
AoD is far better. Notification lights doesn't mean anything. Just a color flashing
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Yep! And you can turn off AoD between certain times with 8.1!!

Sounds about right..

All a matter of opinion. It has literally turned me off from buying this phone.
LG is confused on their direction. Led, no led, led is back, nope no led.

20degrees said:
All a matter of opinion. It has literally turned me off from buying this phone.
LG is confused on their direction. Led, no led, led is back, nope no led.
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led light doesn't reveal any info and that's in the past. AOD is far more useful.

guytano86 said:
led light doesn't reveal any info and that's in the past. AOD is far more useful.
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Again, matter of opinion. I don't want the screen on showing the time. I'd prefer a small led that flashes a select color for certain things.
It's fine if you don't care for one, but I do. A small colored light flashing a certain color reveals exactly the info I need.

20degrees said:
Again, matter of opinion. I don't want the screen on showing the time. I'd prefer a small led that flashes a select color for certain things.
It's fine if you don't care for one, but I do. A small colored light flashing a certain color reveals exactly the info I need.
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Ok bro whatever that works for you. Lg 40 is not for you. Good luck

I've got a 1 year old now, and try to keep my phone usage to a minimum with her around, not to mention protecting my new LG from her grip.
My phone sits on the counter, and unless I see the notification light, I keep it out of the way. I've missed tons of messages, some concerning time related issues, since I'm not one of those "pick up the phone every 3 seconds millennial" types.
I never thought they'd take the LED away, so I didn't even check before I bought it.
Too late for me.

From my understanding none of the v-series had led notification light.. My last lg phone with notification light was the lg g2

Except with apps like Light Flow, the light means very particular things. Certain contacts, certain apps, etc. can all be seen from across the room or in the dark, where the AoD requires focusing and being nearby.

20degrees said:
Again, matter of opinion. I don't want the screen on showing the time. I'd prefer a small led that flashes a select color for certain things.
It's fine if you don't care for one, but I do. A small colored light flashing a certain color reveals exactly the info I need.
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I was a bit put off with the V40 not having a notification light also. I've tried several alternative apps ...
(Always On Edge Display, LED Blinker and NoLED).
The only one that works, for me is the NoLED app. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730692

Related

LED in Earpice

I almost trade in my cruise, but I noticed that the LED on the earpice does not blink..we tried to plug the charger, does not turn orange or green..so I back out..the store dont want me to open a second one.
I saw a guy buying in Fortress (in HK, it's been here since last Friday), and it does not blink as well... well but it really looks like a LED on it..
looking for the brochures.....to check
Sure it's not just the light sensor?
It probably is, the scroll weel thing seems to do all the blinking.
its definitely a light sensor
Cheers
LB
Yes it’s a light sensor. I mentioned this in an earlier thread. It allows the backlight to adjust automatically to its surroundings.
Sorry evryone..just got mine...
It is the light sensor...too much on my Cruise...
ok, so there is no led on the diamond? that s not common for an htc, and that s not very convenient to know if you missed some calls or if your device if fully charged etc
bobcntsa said:
ok, so there is no led on the diamond? that s not common for an htc, and that s not very convenient to know if you missed some calls or if your device if fully charged etc
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Lol there is an array of lights around the directional control. It lights up veyr nicely, and much more noticeably than the tiny LEDs on previous HTC devices. It glows with a slow pulsating when charging, and flashes when there is a missed call or SMS (according to your preference settings).
"It glows with a slow pulsating when charging" and when charging is over it stops pulsating or is a solid light ?
webvan said:
"It glows with a slow pulsating when charging" and when charging is over it stops pulsating or is a solid light ?
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yes, solid light when fully charged
thanks, seems smarter than the good old green/orange led !
webvan said:
thanks, seems smarter than the good old green/orange led !
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It's smarter and it blends in very nicely with the look of the phone.
Very nice at night when the phone is being charged in the dark
mkhattab said:
...Very nice at night when the phone is being charged in the dark
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oh boy, i love this one, it looks like it inhales the energy. It's alive!!!
Let's be careful, it could be HAL !
And how u know if the phone is still on ?Is there no option to make the joistick blink while in standby?????
Pull out the stylus. If it's on, the screen will turn on.
webvan said:
thanks, seems smarter than the good old green/orange led !
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especially for the color blind folks like me. i could never determine whether my device is fully charged without turning on.
thanks to htc, i can do that now...

[FIX] CM led notifications [MERGED]

These changes have been merged into the latest nightly. Expect to see it in the new dinc build on 11/30/2010.
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Hey fellow dinc users. We've been complaining for too long and now we can complain no more (or some more)
I've made a patch that fixes the led notifications so that green and amber blinks now. You can flash this over any version of cm 6.
The led blinks like stock, but the blink rate is not configurable.
-Flash in succession works for different notification colors.
Flash like any zip. Be sure to back up.
Bug: There seems to be an issue with the led light colors not being properly set by CM settings.. Here is a possible solution:
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Next: Bingo:
Set a custom color (somewhere in the pink-red range). Got a red LED immediately.
Now flash color, blink rate work as advertised.
Hopefully that helps narrow down the issue me and CUViper are seeing.
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Devs: I've started a Gerritt issue for the fix. I'm not sure if I broke things for other phones.. so hopefully there'll be more contribution from other devs to get this into cm6.1..... update- they didn't like my generic liblights fix, so I've made a device specific one for our inc. It works right now, but I will clean up the file when I get a chance.
http://review.cyanogenmod.com/527
NEW: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,681
Do you think this will work with RUBY?
shoman24v said:
Do you think this will work with RUBY?
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I think it should. But please let us know if it doesn't!
Let me do a backup and I'll try it out.
nice.. much appreciated! what's left in terms of issues? just the cam force close or are there others? once the cam's fixed.. i'd like to use cm as my daily
The camera really only fcs for 720p recording with autofocus. I might look into it over Thanksgiving.
The led issue was just really bugging me and I was getting impatient lol..
No, go. When I get a text it doesn't blink, or even stay on like it did.
shoman24v said:
No, go. When I get a text it doesn't blink, or even stay on like it did.
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Sorry man, there must be other changes in Ruby that I don't know about. Have you tried changing the colors of your notifications? The driver only responds if it's green or red.
seanzer said:
Sorry man, there must be other changes in Ruby that I don't know about. Have you tried changing the colors of your notifications? The driver only responds if it's green or red.
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I don't believe Ruby allows you to change the color of your LED. We only have two anyway
shoman24v said:
I don't believe Ruby allows you to change the color of your LED. We only have two anyway
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You should try an led tester or handcent. An app that lets you change test the color of the led. I could recode the patch to default to green for all other colors, I believe that would make it work for MIUI. Pm me if you're willing to try it..
I think many users may want it blink for Ruby. Though, it does work just fine as it is being only solid. Reason I sorta perfer that is I'm not being tricked into thinking I have a notification. When it blinks I have to always take a second look at it
I tried LED Tester, only colors we have are green and red.
For the apps that have built in LED configuration, like handcent and kik. THey wouldn't even have the orange LED blinking right, which leads me to have it set to no blind in CMsettings and the app settings.
Will this fix work with those aswell?
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For the apps that have built in LED configuration, like handcent and kik. THey wouldn't even have the orange LED blinking right, which leads me to have it set to no blind in CMsettings and the app settings.
Will this fix work with those aswell?
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I'm not sure what you mean, but I can use handcent's settings to set the led color. Only green and red work though. For the apps that don't have a way to set the color, I can control it using cyanogen's settings under the led notifications menu.
I added some review comments in Gerrit for you. When I tried it myself, I wasn't able to get it working until I uncommented your BLINK_FILE writes.
This b0rks the green LED when charging above 90% Now both orange and green are lit.
Also rather then plain green flashing I get nothing :/
CUViper said:
I added some review comments in Gerrit for you. When I tried it myself, I wasn't able to get it working until I uncommented your BLINK_FILE writes.
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When remove the comments, don't the blinks go sporadically?
I intended for the leds to be able to have both red and green, but it looks rediculous so I'm going to fix it.
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When remove the comments, don't the blinks go sporadically?
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I'm not sure what you mean by sporadic. It's a quick blink about every two seconds, longer off than on. But with your comments in place, I don't get anything blinking lights at all. The solid charge light works, but blinking notification doesn't.
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I'm not sure what you mean by sporadic. It's a quick blink about every two seconds, longer off than on. But with your comments in place, I don't get anything blinking lights at all. The solid charge light works, but blinking notification doesn't.
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Interesting, try setting different blink rates, it definitely works!
I'm posting a new version fixing the issue with both lights showing up.
Ok, this is weird. I built your second patch from Gerrit, pushed it out, rebooted, and then suddenly I was getting the opposite of before, now a long blink on with a short off. So I went into Advanced and chose "Reset all colors and apps", and now I can't get anything to blink at all. I'm about to give up and let you and others figure it out...
Can you tell what all the settings are for you? I have only the default "Miscellaneous" category, and I've tried "Always pulse" on and off. The other Advanced settings don't look like they should matter, but I have the rest all off. Then I go into the applications list and choose Gmail, set it to green or red, choose any blink rate, and then "Flash test" does nothing.
You should get a long blink with short off..
I just repeated what you did..
Reset all notifications,
Goto led settings for gmail,
Test flash does nothing,
pick green..even though it was already selected...
Test flash and it worked..
Not exactly sure why it doesn't work for you. lets see what the others say.

Led Notification or Moto Screen ?

know that the Nexus 6 will have a Amoled screen, but the notifications be equal Moto X (moto screen pulsating) or notification led like the Nexus 5?
I'm wondering about the notification LED myself. It has always been a staple of nexus devices, but it doesn't seem like this one is going to have it. Motorola is more prone to waking the screen when a notification is received rather than LEDs. I think, with great disappointment, that this iteration of the Nexus won't have an LED notification light.
Although I have no knowledge or proof and hoping someone can confirm or deny.
I was just going to post a thread asking the same question. Does anyone know if the N6 will have the active display like the Moto X? Where you can say commands and have it answer you back etc etc...
I heard that android L introduces "OK google" with the screen off on nexus 6, along with some level of screen notifications
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know that the Nexus 6 will have a Amoled screen, but the notifications be equal Moto X (moto screen pulsating) or notification led like the Nexus 5?
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I hope that it will have an notification LED. If not, it will be one more reasen that i (may be) don´t buy it.
What I remember reading about the guy on G+ who was a device tester for the N6 there is no notification LED. Instead we will have a variant of the "Active Notifications" screen.
While this may be disappointing to some out there I am not surprised they went this way not because of the AMOLED display, but because of Android Wear being pushed out to the market to the point where we have headware, watches, hell even jewelry capable of notification alarms making the notification LED almost obsolete these days. Hell the only time I ever see my LED work is when its charging/low batt/full battery. I will not miss it too much.
I think the LED is more anonymous, so i like this much more.
The other question is, which one takes more accumulator? The LED or the active display (AMOLED)
this is such a disappointment, i rely heavily on the LED, it's much less time consuming, just look at the light, no need to push the power button.
Koolieman20 said:
this is such a disappointment, i rely heavily on the LED, it's much less time consuming, just look at the light, no need to push the power button.
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If its some sort of active display notification there won't be a need to press a button either. It'll just flash a few pixels on your screen with better information as to what type of notification.
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biggiestuff said:
If its some sort of active display notification there won't be a need to press a button either. It'll just flash a few pixels on your screen with better information as to what type of notification.
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Constantly like LED or when you wave?
borchgrevink said:
Constantly like LED or when you wave?
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They call it "breathing". It's not as rapid as a led light but it's still low power consumption because it only uses a few pixels to light up the notification and it uses the lower power core on the processor so it's not waking the phone. Not sure if it's going to be the same like on the motos but if it is, I'd prefer it over led notification light.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...bient-display-personalized-take-moto-display/
I have a Moto 360 so neither really concerns me, but if I didn't I'd rather have use of the Moto Active screen than a notification LED.
Hmm, seems like a step back to me. LED keeps battery usage to a minimum, and is always visible. This only lights up when lifted or new notification. I like coming into the room and seeing the LED blink different colours for different notifications.
borchgrevink said:
Hmm, seems like a step back to me. LED keeps battery usage to a minimum, and is always visible. This only lights up when lifted or new notification. I like coming into the room and seeing the LED blink different colours for different notifications.
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This. Exactly! And from my understanding (at least on the Moto x) you can't change colors of the notifications. So you won't be able to tell from a distance.
Pretty sure that there's tons of AMOLED apps that let you choose custom notifications on the screen, at least from what I remember when I had a GNex. The other benefit of that method is you can display multiple notifications at once.
I still prefer the dedicated LED though, seems to be brighter and visible from further away. Also power use is lower, and the general consensus is AMOLED notifications should be 'bounced' around to various spots to avoid burn-in, which makes it a bit annoying.
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Pretty sure that there's tons of AMOLED apps that let you choose custom notifications on the screen, at least from what I remember when I had a GNex..
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Yeah, the LED on Nexus 5, with "Lightflow", saved my mental sanity a thousand time.
Someone knows a good app like that for Amoled screen?
I want to be prepared...
Gil. said:
Yeah, the LED on Nexus 5, with "Lightflow", saved my mental sanity a thousand time.
Someone knows a good app like that for Amoled screen?
I want to be prepared...
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Lightflow was a nightmare half the time with the LED, sometimes it works when it wants to work and other times it just does what it wants.
I had to eventually disable the notification LED's all except for low battery, charging and Full battery. Those were the only ones that were not problematic (most of the time).
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Lightflow was a nightmare half the time with the LED, sometimes it works when it wants to work and other times it just does what it wants.
I had to eventually disable the notification LED's all except for low battery, charging and Full battery. Those were the only ones that were not problematic (most of the time).
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Strange, never happened to me.
For me that app was a savior!
I hope I'll find a good competitor for AMOled.
I am sure given time developers will be able to find and mod the "Ambient Display" System to do anything you want it to. Hell if we are lucky and get an Xposed for ART support we will certainly see an xposed module to take full advantage of it.

[Q] Which is preferred for missed notifications- LED or Active Display?

Thinking about getting a Droid Turbo but not sure about the notifications....I currently have a Note 2 and I really like having a front LED for missed notifications. I am not sure if I would notice active display as quickly or not. I thought I would ask and get some opinions on which is preferred(if had the choice of both).
I do miss my led but I've had one since the Droid X. So far Its something to get used to for me. If you aren't sure you can just wave your hand over it. I wasn't sure about it but I'll give the blinkey light up for the performance I have now over my old S4
Honestly the active display is awesome but to disable it when driving because it tends to keep turning on without any notification when on my gps mount but for me it's no big deal. The active display won't affect battery much since this is a amoled display and only the needed pixels (white ones) light off and the rest are completely off.
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I watched a video of it for Moto X and the strobe rate does not seem to be often enough for me. Is it adjustable to where the notification can just stay on the screen instead of strobe? I check my current phone with only a brief glance for LED notifications, and I would surely mess the notification on active display if it's in between strobes.
dman777 said:
I watched a video of it for Moto X and the strobe rate does not seem to be often enough for me. Is it adjustable to where the notification can just stay on the screen instead of strobe? I check my current phone with only a brief glance for LED notifications, and I would surely mess the notification on active display if it's in between strobes.
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Is this why my screen seems to blink intermittently? It doesn't even seem to have a pattern... It's not like "regular"... omg, I want to disable this so bad!!! Definitely horrible when driving and mounting the phone in a mount. It's irritating and distracting.
I guess that I never noticed that there was no more LED to blink!
I missed having an LED at first, but the active display functionality has grown on my like a tumor! LOL!
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I missed having an LED at first, but the active display functionality has grown on my like a tumor! LOL!
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Same here! It's just so awesome! For me it's better because it's as if the led were on because of the amoled display.
wadamean said:
Same here! It's just so awesome! For me it's better because it's as if the led were on because of the amoled display.
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What do you do when you have it laying on a desk/table and you glance over and miss the notification because it was at the moment that it was faded out?
dman777 said:
What do you do when you have it laying on a desk/table and you glance over and miss the notification because it was at the moment that it was faded out?
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Jiggle,move it, flip it, etc. It senses movement as well.
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dman777 said:
What do you do when you have it laying on a desk/table and you glance over and miss the notification because it was at the moment that it was faded out?
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That's true and simple just wave you hand close to the screen or any movement really turns on active display. The notification doesn't go away until you have gone to the specified app to see what it was
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What do you do when you have it laying on a desk/table and you glance over and miss the notification because it was at the moment that it was faded out?
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just put your hand near it, you don't even have to touch it. The notifications will light up. Unless I am doing it wrong, it would be nice if I could touch that notification icon and swipe and it took me to it.
Here's how I usually operate...my phone is always on my desk or on my couch face up....without me touching it. How can I make it to where if I glance over at it without touching the phone or waving my hand over it where I can see the notification without staring at it? Is there a way to make the notifications on the screen stay on without fading in/out? With the speed it fades in/out, I know I will miss a notification while it's faded out.
just put your hand near it, you don't even have to touch it. The notifications will light up. Unless I am doing it wrong, it would be nice if I could touch that notification icon and swipe and it took me to it.
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You have to touch and hold the notification icon and slide up. That will open whatever application the notification is for.
I just went from note 2 to droid turbo 2. I miss the led light. I am a mom and sometimes I let my 3 years old play game on my phone while I shop. The led light let me know someone is trying to reach me. I can not tell anymore with droid turbo 2 because of no LED light. And, I still haven't found moto display useful. My husband noticed I don't response fast enough since the new phone. The note 2 and turbo 2 are are almost same size so I do not carry my phone in my pocket often because it is uncomfortable and sometimes even fall out of my pocket when I am cleaning, carrying dealing with my kids, so I like to lay it down and look across the room for the LED light. I am severe to profound hearing loss in both ears and wear cochlear implant so when i am not wearing it, i like to see the notifcation across the room.
I am giving my husband the turbo 2 (I could return it but he wants it). I going to get a phone with a led light.
we actually do have an led light near the front facing camera, but i have no idea how to activate it and it doesnt seem to be used by any app. ive seen it come on twice but idk why it came on. it happened while on the charger and it turned green.
Active Display all the way, hate LED lights.
I think you can get the led to work with some combo of light flow and xposed. It also is used by default with RR. I'm torn on which I like. I liked active display on stock, but it doesn't seem to work as well on non stock based ROMs. I've been using the LED, but it doesn't really blink, it just stays on solid when I have a notification.

Notification led

Good evening all.
Is there a notification led on the front of the Rog Phone 2?
And if it is, is it a monochrome led or a multicolor led? If it's a multicolor led, can I modify the color based of notification (WhatsApp message, Facebook Message, GMAIL, SMS, Lost Call, etc.) ?
Thanks in advice
Yeah. It is multicolor. I think you can set it based off of the apps but I haven't checked. Also the logo on the back serves as a notification light if you set it up. But I think it might be buggy as of now.
NajimKiSaad said:
Good evening all.
Is there a notification led on the front of the Rog Phone 2?
And if it is, is it a monochrome led or a multicolor led? If it's a multicolor led, can I modify the color based of notification (WhatsApp message, Facebook Message, GMAIL, SMS, Lost Call, etc.) ?
Thanks in advice
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Yes there is and it's multi color, you can change the color for apps if you use a 3rd party app like light flow. You can only set the color to 1 of 3 colors i believe (Red,Green,Yellow). The default system notification color is green.
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Yeah. It is multicolor. I think you can set it based off of the apps but I haven't checked. Also the logo on the back serves as a notification light if you set it up. But I think it might be buggy as of now.
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How bright is this front LED? Is there a photo of it from those who have this phone?
xpclient said:
How bright is this front LED? Is there a photo of it from those who have this phone?
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It's not very bright.. i had a blackberry before and there it was much brighter. It is noticeable only when you look to the phone imho.
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Yeah. It is multicolor. I think you can set it based off of the apps but I haven't checked. Also the logo on the back serves as a notification light if you set it up. But I think it might be buggy as of now.
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wow thanks! will give this a try
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It's not very bright.. i had a blackberry before and there it was much brighter. It is noticeable only when you look to the phone imho.
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If you keep it on a table or bed next to you, is the LED visible if you glance at it? My earlier LG G Pro 2 has a very prominent LED. But the newer phones seem to have a LED that is so tiny and faint that you can hardly see it blinking or glowing unless you hold it right in your hand close to your face. I think it must be the same as this ASUS ROG II phone too. All the Huaweis and Xiaomis that do claim to have LEDs have the useless invisible microscopic LEDs.
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If you keep it on a table or bed next to you, is the LED visible if you glance at it? My earlier LG G Pro 2 has a very prominent LED. But the newer phones seem to have a LED that is so tiny and faint that you can hardly see it blinking or glowing unless you hold it right in your hand close to your face. I think it must be the same as this ASUS ROG II phone too. All the Huaweis and Xiaomis that do claim to have LEDs have the useless invisible microscopic LEDs.
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Depends on height difference between your night stand and bed, but it's very visible for me when glancing over from bed. Forgot how much I missed having a notification LED!
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Depends on height difference between your night stand and bed, but it's very visible for me when glancing over from bed. Forgot how much I missed having a notification LED!
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You must've came from a 6T, lol. What a piece of trash
xxBrun0xx said:
Depends on height difference between your night stand and bed, but it's very visible for me when glancing over from bed. Forgot how much I missed having a notification LED!
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Oh you own this nice phone? Can you post a picture with the LED glowing taken from another phone?
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Oh you own this nice phone? Can you post a picture with the LED glowing taken from another phone?
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I can try, but I don't think it's going to come out very well
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ZeroKool76 said:
You must've came from a 6T, lol. What a piece of trash
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Had a a OnePlus 6, then switch over to a pixel 3a which was great, but not very exciting

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