Despite phone being rooted I can't uninstall certain pre-installed apps - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have an Xperia Z1 with Android 5.1.1 which I have rooted. Using Solid Explorer I was able to uninstall certain pre-installed system apps like Google+, News and Weather, Google Notes and other ones. However, I cannot uninstall other pre-installed system apps like Sony Notes, PS Video and What's New.
Does anybody know why this would not work? I thought once I've got root I can do anything with the phone... Could I simply browse to /system on the phone, remove some folders and reboot to get rid of the remaining useless pre-installed system apps? So far I used Solid Explorer because I think clicking an app is safer than removing random folders.

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Backing up APKs and Apps: What's the best?

Okay, so we all know that when we launch Samsung's Gear Manager, it instantly wants to restore the Gear and clear out all our apps and setting. What to do?
I have read up on the different backup services and apps and I want to know what everyone is using?
It seems like Titanium Backup is popular but the paid app. for the unrooted phones is expensive, when so many free apps are available. What makes it better? Any apps that batch restore all your apps possible?
I am using Google Drive to backup my APKs that I cant just download from the Google Play Store, but are the services and specifc apps any better? Hell, they seem to be backing up the data on Google Drives (GD) anyways. Seems like me just putting them on GD in the first place just saves me the space and time of downloading yet another app.
Have also read a little about some people hiding the APKs in subfiles and then just opening them up and installing them again. That seems like a useful idea but would love to know exactly where to hide the files.

[Q] How can we discover what each of the apks actually are from the package files?

Hi All,
I haven't had much luck with the questions I've asked, it's a shame these forums aren't more active but I'll try my luck again (and thanks in advance to all those who read).
A lot of us newbies who want to debloat our phones are unsure what apks to delete and what needs to stay. I've found various lists of apks that others have deleted, but with no indication of what they are exactly are. Some are obvious but others are not.
I, for instance, can't figure out which apk produces Video Unlimited, Smart Connect or Xperia Care Support from looking in system/app with the root browser. Is this even the only place I'd need to delete each apk from to remove it? But I digress.
So there surely must be a way to read each package and view or extract the user-friendly name that appears to the user in the Apps list or in the home screen. Can anyone tell me what it is? I would be very happy to go through each apk and list it out for people to then use as a reference, and we'd have one more resource for newbies to draw on, instead of us just deleting them blindly and/or at random.
Cheers as always,
schnidex
Use ES File Explorer and check the "App" menu. You will be able to see the apps by its user-friendly name, and clicking on each one you will see its package name.
- Install ES File Explorer from the Play Store (it's free)
- Press the hamburger menu (located up-left -> Library -> App)
- You will see user apps, then you can click on the menu and check system apps or all apps installed.
If you are rooted, you may uninstall system apps from there (long press, uninstall located down-left).
BarajaVLC said:
Use ES File Explorer and check the "App" menu. You will be able to see the apps by its user-friendly name, and clicking on each one you will see its package name.
- Install ES File Explorer from the Play Store (it's free)
- Press the hamburger menu (located up-left -> Library -> App)
- You will see user apps, then you can click on the menu and check system apps or all apps installed.
If you are rooted, you may uninstall system apps from there (long press, uninstall located down-left).
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The problem is not in knowing which APK belongs to which app (and sometimes one APK is several apps at once - like Google+, and you need to know it, and sometimes you don't see an app at all for the APK, like for most system APKs). The problem is knowing what the app actually does, which parts of the system rely on it being present, and how well will these parts behave if the app is removed (vs disabled, which is a normal way to deal with unwanted apps). And this is where "debloating" can do more harm than good.
Jack_R1 said:
The problem is not in knowing which APK belongs to which app (and sometimes one APK is several apps at once - like Google+, and you need to know it, and sometimes you don't see an app at all for the APK, like for most system APKs). The problem is knowing what the app actually does, which parts of the system rely on it being present, and how well will these parts behave if the app is removed (vs disabled, which is a normal way to deal with unwanted apps). And this is where "debloating" can do more harm than good.
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True in many ways, but my primary concern was removing the apps that appear in the app drawer. This seems to handle that perfectly.

Which /system apps can be safely uninstalled?

I have recently upgraded my Xperia ZR to Lollipop 5.1.1 stock Sony ROM. I have rooted it. One big irritant I am facing is lack of internal storage space. Among the main culprits here are apps in /system (both /system/app as well as /system/priv-app) that are taking up precious space in internal memory (only 4.6 GB is user available out of total 8 GB) in the form of .DEX files.
My goal here is safety first. I know that I may not need them now, but I should be able to install them in future if necessary. Hence I am mainly looking at applications that are not required for normal functioning of the phone and could be installed from the Play Store if necessary later (considering that so many are already on the Play Store including many Sony applications)
Do all these applications necessarily need to run as system applications for their proper functioning? If I can install them as a regular user app, I can use Link2SD and send both the APK and DEX files to SD card with a link on internal memory thus greatly saving space.
Here are some I have shortlisted:
Google applications
1. Maps
2. YouTube
3. Google Search (the APK is called Velvet) - I do not use Google Search app, I do not want OK Google.
4. Drive - I do not use it now. May be in future.
5. Chrome - it is just a browser. Will it not work equally well as a user app?
Sony applications
1. File Commander (not exactly a Sony application but available on the Play Store and is already pushing ads, is there any unique functionality that only File Commander can provide and not other file browser? WiFi Direct?)
2. Album - is it not available on Play Store too? Can I install it from there?
3. Movies - same as Album.
4. Walkman or Music
5. What's New - not needed for me.
6. Movie Creator - I doubt I will be routinely stitching up videos on the phone. Still it would be nice to have in case needed in future.
7. Podcast - I do not listen to podcasts now but in future if the situation changes.
8. Movie Creator - there are 2!!!!!
9. Xperia with Facebook
10. Xperia Lounge Pass
11. Sony Music
12. Xperia with Twitter
13. Xperia Calender Sync - seems to deal with Facebook
14. Xperia Social Engine****
Please go through the list and suggest.
Greetings, you are on the same boat as I am, and yes I have uninstalled all the apps you have mentioned in the list. I have deleted even some other apps too. Also you may wanna keep "whats new" >> This app is like the update center so any new OS updates will be shown from here only and Xperia ZR will have a bug fixing update soon.
ariftwister said:
Greetings, you are on the same boat as I am, and yes I have uninstalled all the apps you have mentioned in the list. I have deleted even some other apps too. Also you may wanna keep "whats new" >> This app is like the update center so any new OS updates will be shown from here only and Xperia ZR will have a bug fixing update soon.
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Thanks. Could please tell me the other applications you got rid of?
I will keep What’s New then.
Are we probably the only 2 active ZR users? [emoji13]
Don't uninstall google Webviev.. Its same Bugs..
I have mail, exchange uninstalled..
mahferer said:
Don't uninstall google Webviev.. Its same Bugs..
I have mail, exchange uninstalled..
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Webview is needed by many applications to display webcontent right? What did you mean by 'its same bugs'?
Exchange probably is related to Microsoft Exchange which is a corporate email thingy(?) and hence I too may not need it.
What about Chrome? I actually am a Firefox person but some sites may need Chrome. Hence I want to keep it but does it really need to be a system app?
For example ; Application details in Google play store can't not show.. Iys says play store stopped.. And My sms Application Truemessenger is too.. Stopped..
I don't use Chrome.. Deleted.. I use lovely Dolphin browser with Flash.player
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Thanks. Could please tell me the other applications you got rid of?
I will keep What’s New then.
Are we probably the only 2 active ZR users? [emoji13]
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I don't remember them now, because using CM. Also why not try TB feature ? If space is your concern, sort apps by size and you will get which useless app is eating your internel memory. Also use "backup > verify > uninstall app" when un installing imp system apps. If they cause FC , you can restore them later.
Yeah its a pretty old device, soon you may be the only one (Hunting for the next Mobile )
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Also some apps may seem like redundant (2 movie creator apps ) but in reality they are very useful. One used for merging and editing Video clips and the other used for PlayMemories Slideshow for album. These apps are very small in size and doesn't clog your internals. Look for the big one.
You shouldn't uninstall system apps, as they won't free up any space; if you want to free space, uninstall the apps on the /data partition, i.e. the apps that you can uninstall normally. If you want to improve performance, just disable the app in question. Deleting it does absolutely nothing that disabling wouldn't do at much less risk. I'm a little surprised nobody else has pointed this out.
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Slight weirdnesses with my new Tab S2

So I just treated myself to a new tablet (SM-T819N), and went through the usually "after buying an android device" stuff...
I add a 128MB card, and mark the partition on it as private to use it as actually usable storage instead of just filling it with pictures, and thyat works just fine.
then, root+TWRP following the instructions here on the forum, supersu, titanium backup pro, sd maid pro, greenify pro, switching to google launcher insteand of touchwiz... and all is well.
until I notice two odd things:
1. plume pro does not offer me a widget anymore (it does on all my other devices)
2. I set a live background of screen and lockscreen, but after a reboot the device is back to the default background...
Any ideas? Could 2. be related to something like the live background app is physically located on the added storage and therefor not available early enough during boot? That being said I remember some other apps also loosing their widget parts when moved to SD....
Any another question: I have package disabler pro, and an uninstaller that can uninstall even system apps, couldn't I completely strip touchwiz and that samsung smartmanager off the tablet?
Or would that break things and I should better just disable them?
Cheers
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I prefer to freeze bloatware with Titanium. If there are no bad consequences, I can the go back and remove the apps if I really need the space. To be honest, I have yet to be that tight for space on any of my devices, so the stuff just stays frozen ("out of sight, out of mind").

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