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I wasn't going to root my phone but this "its on" app is killing half my battery now, so I guess its time. Can someone point in in the right direction for a tutorial that can root after the 4.4.4 update? also, does anyone know if there's a way to root without erasing the phone? I don't want to reinstall everything, I really just want to get rid of the its on app. Its unbelievable that sprint hasn't fixed this in over a month.
The method to root is the same as it is with previous Android versions on this device. Unlocking your bootloader factory resets the device, but you can connect your phone to your PC and backup whatever you need to beforehand. HTC backup also works great for backing up apps, ringtones, etc. I've used it in the past and it works quite well. As far as the ItsOn garbage, you'll need to flash a ROM that removes it from the device, as it's not simply an app that you can delete.
I have an ATT S5 (SM-G900A), completely stock, unrooted, updated to the latest 5.0 OTA update. My requirements for my phone are that it be able to pass Airwatch checks and that it be able to be encrypted (Personal device used at work). Some background first:
Last time I tried to play around with rooting, other mods, and whatnot was on my ATT S3 (I think I747?) and I discovered that an unspecified combination of rooting, installing a custom loader (CWM in my case) and installing a custom mod (Cyanogenmod at the time) made my phone unable to encrypt. At the time I was not required to use Airwatch, but encryption was required for my phone to connect to work, so I gave up on the whole lot.
I have now discovered that ATT, in their infinite wisdom, has replaced the S Voice drive mode with their own "ATT Drive Mode", and it's been verified they went so far as to remove the related APKs from the phone entirely. For those unaware, S Voice Drive mode is an feature of S Voice that (when turned on) reads out all callers and text messages, and then verbally prompts you for actions; reply, answer, ignore, etc. It allows fully hands free functionality. ATT Drive Mode, on the other hand, automatically kicks in whenever speeds of 20 MPH are detected (even if you're a passenger), rejects all calls and texts excluding a user-defined 5 person list, and essentially makes your phone useless anytime you're in a car. The goal is to "reduce texting and distracted driving", but as I'm on-call as part of my job and need to at least be aware of texts that come in within 10 minutes of receipt, it actually makes my drive much more dangerous. ATT Drive mode is a good idea for teens, perhaps, but i'm not a teen.
This brings me to my question: What are my options?
--Does rooting break my ability to encrypt? I know airwatch will flag, but I'm thinking there's a possibility of being able to root, put a custom loader on my phone, and then restore stock with that custom loader, whereupon I can try to install the drive mode APK...which leads me to my next question:
--Does having a custom loader (like safestrap or CWM or whatever is in use nowadays) break my ability to encrypt?
--Does anyone know of a way to install the S Voice drive mode in the G900A? I tried searching, but the only references involved being rooted, or ended with something vague like "download a stock rom and find the apk using root explorer" as the solution (which is vague to me because I don't know which stock rom to use, what apk to look for, and last time I used root explorer on my s3, it needed root...)
Honestly, the ideal solution would be something like the stock rom from the international version that would run on my ATT version...but I don't know if such a thing exists or is possible. I don't mind Samsung's cruft, but I do dislike ATT's lobotomizing of my phone to push their own little product that treats me like a kid. I know that I am less safe as a driver without the S Voice drive mode than I was with it.
I take it I have no options? And that no one knows how rooting affects encryption?
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sheaiden said:
I take it I have no options? And that no one knows how rooting affects encryption?
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I will make it easy for you. Since you took the 5.0 OTA update rooting is not possible anymore. Also there is no way to downgrade to KitKat which was rootable. Sorry. Not much you can do until someone finds a way to root 5.0. If you find the S Voice Drive app, you can side load it and see if it works.
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I will make it easy for you. Since you took the 5.0 OTA update rooting is not possible anymore. Also there is no way to downgrade to KitKat which was rootable. Sorry. Not much you can do until someone finds a way to root 5.0. If you find the S Voice Drive app, you can side load it and see if it works.
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Actually, while I greatly appreciate the fact that you took the time to reply (seriously! at least you took the time!), this is neither easy nor related to the questions I asked. If you look at my post, I'm not asking "how can I root", I'm asking three rather different questions:
--Does rooting break my ability to encrypt? I know airwatch will flag, but I'm thinking there's a possibility of being able to root, put a custom loader on my phone, and then restore stock with that custom loader, whereupon I can try to install the drive mode APK...which leads me to my next question:
--Does having a custom loader (like safestrap or CWM or whatever is in use nowadays) break my ability to encrypt?
--Does anyone know of a way to install the S Voice drive mode in the G900A? I tried searching, but the only references involved being rooted, or ended with something vague like "download a stock rom and find the apk using root explorer" as the solution (which is vague to me because I don't know which stock rom to use, what apk to look for, and last time I used root explorer on my s3, it needed root...)
In fact, I am unable to remain rooted (Airwatch; it's part of the post title), and the whole point and thrust of my question lies in the fact that I am looking to find out what affects encryption and what options I have as far as getting S Voice Drive mode on my phone while staying Airwatch compliant (not rooted). In addition, "if you can find the s voice drive app" is part of the problem too, as evidenced by the third question I asked above; I don't know where to find said app.
Does anyone know anything regarding what I was actually asking?
Everything that you want to do requires ROOT! Safstrap needs root, CWM will brick you phone since the bootloader is locked. Again, there is no way as of now to root the S5 with 5.0 att OTA.
Here is the link to download the GS4 S Voice app. You can try and side load it,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oe7i2g81iuhjv38/S-Voice_Android_phone_J.apk?dl=0
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Everything that you want to do requires ROOT! Safstrap needs root, CWM will brick you phone since the bootloader is locked. Again, there is no way as of now to root the S5 with 5.0 att OTA.
Here is the link to download the GS4 S Voice app. You can try and side load it,
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Awesome, I'll start with that sideloading, and test it out. Thanks! As far as the rest, I suppose that does clarify some things (that I admittedly already knew), so I do appreciate it, but it still does leave the answers to the other questions. I can infer, of course, that the answer to whether having a custom bootloader on the Galaxy S5 breaks encryption will be dependent on whether root breaks the encryption, since as you pointed out custom bootloaders need root to install, but the fantasy I entertained for a little while was rooting when there's a method (hope springs eternal, so I'm hoping it will eventually be possible), installing a custom bootloader so I can do things like backups and sideload, getting the proper apk's installed for the drive app, and then unrooting it so I can connect it via airwatch to my work's network. Perhaps I should have marked this as a solidly theoretical question, since as you said, there currently exists no root. I just want to know, with the unique way that Samsung implemented Knox and the encryption on the S5, what will break encryption and what won't?
Of course, there is a side question brought up by all this...how possible is it to load another firmware on my phone? as in, use Odin to put the tmobile image on my phone. That is likely a bad example, since I'm fairly certain there are actual hardware differences between the ATT and the tmobile models, but the concept still stands. At what level are the hardware configurations different between phone companies?
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Awesome, I'll start with that sideloading, and test it out. Thanks! As far as the rest, I suppose that does clarify some things (that I admittedly already knew), so I do appreciate it, but it still does leave the answers to the other questions. I can infer, of course, that the answer to whether having a custom bootloader on the Galaxy S5 breaks encryption will be dependent on whether root breaks the encryption, since as you pointed out custom bootloaders need root to install, but the fantasy I entertained for a little while was rooting when there's a method (hope springs eternal, so I'm hoping it will eventually be possible), installing a custom bootloader so I can do things like backups and sideload, getting the proper apk's installed for the drive app, and then unrooting it so I can connect it via airwatch to my work's network. Perhaps I should have marked this as a solidly theoretical question, since as you said, there currently exists no root. I just want to know, with the unique way that Samsung implemented Knox and the encryption on the S5, what will break encryption and what won't?
Of course, there is a side question brought up by all this...how possible is it to load another firmware on my phone? as in, use Odin to put the tmobile image on my phone. That is likely a bad example, since I'm fairly certain there are actual hardware differences between the ATT and the tmobile models, but the concept still stands. At what level are the hardware configurations different between phone companies?
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You will not be able to change your bootloader period... At this point the locked bootloader is unbreakable. That leads to your next question about tmobile and that's a no as well due to the locked down bootloader.
Even with root you won't be able to do anything you've suggested due to the locked bootloader.
OPOfreak said:
You will not be able to change your bootloader period... At this point the locked bootloader is unbreakable. That leads to your next question about tmobile and that's a no as well due to the locked down bootloader.
Even with root you won't be able to do anything you've suggested due to the locked bootloader.
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Interesting. I had been under the impression that I had seen people referring to installing clockworkmod or some similar thing on an S5, but I think I may be getting caught up in terminology; those are recoveries, aren't they? not bootloaders? Or perhaps people were posting about the other S5s with unlocked bootloaders. 15 different versions of S5, and I get stuck with the most apple-like of all the carriers....(in the sense of "you take what we give you and don't play with it!")
So, assuming I don't manage to get it installed via the link Waiting4MyAndroid was kind enough to post, I think that rules out anything other than the method of:
--wait for a root method to be established for the new OTA
--root, install the drive apk
--unroot, so I can encrypt and pass airwatch
Does anyone know if the old method of rooting broke encryption? and whether encryption was able to be performed after unrooting again?
Edit: Attempted to Sideload. Sadly, it is telling me "App not installed" (other sideloads do work; it's not the unknown sources setting). I'm thinking either the apk is marked for s4, and it's not compatible, or it's trying to overwrite files from the established svoice system, and that's not allowed. I suppose if someone has the drive apks from a tmobile S5 image or some such thing (same model, different carrier), then I could try again, but unfortunately this apk doesn't work. Thanks for the attempt, Waiting4MyAndroid!
Hi,
While going through the threads, I was not able to exactly understand what is the difference between ROOTing a phone and installing a Custom ROM in it. (I'm new to this ROOTing world - only had a chance to watch a friend root Samsung Galaxy S3 long long time back ... Apart from that I do not have much knowledge). I'm planning to root my Sony Xperia Z2 and was wondering if ROOTing is enough or should I proceed further to install a custom ROM.
Rooting your device just gives you privileged access that permits you to modify the operating system.
A custom ROM is an entire Android operating system that has been customized or otherwise modified. Depending on the ROM, it could be stripped down or have all sorts of additional system apps and features. Custom ROMs generally include root access, though not always.
If you're going to start somewhere, you should probably just root your existing stock ROM. Though unless you have a specific need (e.g. per-app firewall, ad blocking, backup/restore) or just like to tinker with ****, I wouldn't bother.
DRM Keys are important.
srcm.ch said:
Hi,
While going through the threads, I was not able to exactly understand what is the difference between ROOTing a phone and installing a Custom ROM in it. (I'm new to this ROOTing world - only had a chance to watch a friend root Samsung Galaxy S3 long long time back ... Apart from that I do not have much knowledge). I'm planning to root my Sony Xperia Z2 and was wondering if ROOTing is enough or should I proceed further to install a custom ROM.
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Before rooting or start tinkering your stock rom, make sure to backup your DRM Keys. They are very important for Xperia devices and are essential for proper functionality of Camera and Music applications (Stock ones).
srcm.ch said:
Hi,
While going through the threads, I was not able to exactly understand what is the difference between ROOTing a phone and installing a Custom ROM in it. (I'm new to this ROOTing world - only had a chance to watch a friend root Samsung Galaxy S3 long long time back ... Apart from that I do not have much knowledge). I'm planning to root my Sony Xperia Z2 and was wondering if ROOTing is enough or should I proceed further to install a custom ROM.
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I would recommend before rooting your phone you determine for yourself the purpose for which you are rooting, some people do for customisation via xposed and gravitybox, some do it for control e.g. removing stock apps, whatever the purpose, because rooting can cause your phone to stop working, it's a venture that's best taken with a purpose, my personal preference is to root a stock android environment rather than running ROMs
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So im trying to make a "custom" rom but i want it to have root by default lke Cyaogen. Do i change something in build.prop or something else?
Hello guys and Gals, this will be my first time posting so please bear with me. I have been trying to find the best option to root my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Sm-n900a for a while now, seems to be one of the harder phones to root... this will be my first time attempting to root a device, so I want to make sure I do everything correctly. I have watched multiple videos and read a lot of threads on the subject but it is hard to find anything that is current and has the proper links to be files needed. if anybody has a good step-by-step walkthrough or video and the time to help me I would greatly appreciate it, if you do respond to the thread please dumb it down I am still learning terminology. I am determined to get this done come hell or high water. so if anybody has a good step-by-step walkthrough or video and the time to help me I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you for helping me put a nail in this coffin i I have been trying to do this far too long.
I just did this over the course of hours. I can't say I'm pleased with any of the explanations on xda-developers or found by Google. Unfortunately, writing up a good, full explanation is beyond me right now.
I did this from the Android 5.0.1? Lollipop "OC3" version (seen as the last 3 characters of the "Baseband version" under Settings -> General -> About device). Apparently this version cannot be rooted, however, you can downgrade your version of Android to one that you can root: Android 4.4.2 KitKat ("N900AUCUCNC2"). Apparently you can do something to stay rooted while manually updating to Android 5.0 Lollipop "OC1," but updating to the current AT&T version "OC3" revokes your root access.
I followed the process listed at https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/root-att-note-3-android-5-0-t3318130/post65467618, but if you are satisfied with having rooted Kitkat 4.4.2, you don't need to do steps 11 and 12. If you want the more recent Android 5.0 OC1, then do steps 11 & 12.
One thing I can do is help you understand some of the things I never saw explained. In the list of instructions you will see some programs you will need. A brief summary of each:
Odin - A program that runs on Windows that will manage some low-level aspects of your phone over a connected USB cable. It is used to install an OS (Kitkat 4.4.2 in this example) after your phone has been Wiped from the boot loader menu (gotten to by turning your phone on holding down VolumeUp + Home buttons). It is nice to have a MicroSD card onto which you can move various things before wiping the phone. (You never need to wipe your MicroSD card. Make sure you don't wipe it when using the Wipe feature in SafeStrap).
Towelroot - This is actual program that roots your phone using a known problem in the phone. After running the program, tap the only button there is to do it. I think this is a safe operation—as in, I think it will tell you if it can't rather than scrozzle your OS.
SuperSU - A program that manages which apps on your phone have root access. After it is installed, when you run a newly installed program that requires root access, SuperSU will pop up a dialog asking you if you want to grant it root access. I saw no indication you can get by without it, even if you don't need to "manage" app root access.
SafeStrap - This is a program that does various things, most importantly installing other operating systems that you previously loaded onto your phone as a file and then letting you choose which one you want to boot to whenever your phone boots up. It installs like a normal program, however from within the program you can "Install Recovery" or "Uninstall Recovery." "Recovery" is a bit of software it inserts into the phone boot process. While booting, if you want to use that software, you tap "Recovery" in the lower left. Tap "Continue" if you just want to boot with the currently active OS (chosen from within the Recovery software under the "Boot" options). With Recovery, you create a new slot for an OS, MAKE IT THE ACTIVE OS, Wipe it (Advanced, NOT format), then can back up a menu and install an OS from your MicroSD card. The purpose of all these shenanigans is so you don't have to lose your working Android install while installing something else.
Titanium Backup - A software backup program that requires root access to work. It also has a ton of other features loosely related to backing up. It is the simplest way to prevent AT&T from updating your version of Android to the unrooted current version. Having said that, it is anything but simple because of the user interface. You might investigate alternative methods for preventing auto-updating.
Be aware that whatever software (e.g., file manager) you use to hunt down files and folders on your phone is probably not going to be showing you everything. There are hundreds of programs that your phone uses, some of which are hidden. Titanium Backup does appear to be capable of showing a true full list of apps (including system apps). This is pertinent, because the AT&T Software Update program is hidden very well.
Potential costs:
$10-20 US approximately for a MicroSD card. There's fast ones that are in that price range. Google for reviews.
$5.99 for Titanium Backup from the Google Play store.
GregJ7 said:
I just did this over the course of hours. I can't say I'm pleased with any of the explanations on xda-developers or found by Google. Unfortunately, writing up a good, full explanation is beyond me right now.
I did this from the Android 5.0.1? Lollipop "OC3" version (seen as the last 3 characters of the "Baseband version" under Settings -> General -> About device). Apparently this version cannot be rooted, however, you can downgrade your version of Android to one that you can root: Android 4.4.2 KitKat ("N900AUCUCNC2"). Apparently you can do something to stay rooted while manually updating to Android 5.0 Lollipop "OC1," but updating to the current AT&T version "OC3" revokes your root access.
I followed the process listed at https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...att-note-3-android-5-0-t3318130/post65467618, but if you are satisfied with having rooted Kitkat 4.4.2, you don't need to do steps 11 and 12. If you want the more recent Android 5.0 OC1, then do steps 11 & 12.
One thing I can do is help you understand some of the things I never saw explained. In the list of instructions you will see some programs you will need. A brief summary of each:
Odin - A program that runs on Windows that will manage some low-level aspects of your phone over a connected USB cable. It is used to install an OS (Kitkat 4.4.2 in this example) after your phone has been Wiped from the boot loader menu (gotten to by turning your phone on holding down VolumeUp + Home buttons). It is nice to have a MicroSD card onto which you can move various things before wiping the phone. (You never need to wipe your MicroSD card. Make sure you don't wipe it when using the Wipe feature in SafeStrap).
Towelroot - This is actual program that roots your phone using a known problem in the phone. After running the program, tap the only button there is to do it. I think this is a safe operation—as in, I think it will tell you if it can't rather than scrozzle your OS.
SuperSU - A program that manages which apps on your phone have root access. After it is installed, when you run a newly installed program that requires root access, SuperSU will pop up a dialog asking you if you want to grant it root access. I saw no indication you can get by without it, even if you don't need to "manage" app root access.
SafeStrap - This is a program that does various things, most importantly installing other operating systems that you previously loaded onto your phone as a file and then letting you choose which one you want to boot to whenever your phone boots up. It installs like a normal program, however from within the program you can "Install Recovery" or "Uninstall Recovery." "Recovery" is a bit of software it inserts into the phone boot process. While booting, if you want to use that software, you tap "Recovery" in the lower left. Tap "Continue" if you just want to boot with the currently active OS (chosen from within the Recovery software under the "Boot" options). With Recovery, you create a new slot for an OS, MAKE IT THE ACTIVE OS, Wipe it (Advanced, NOT format), then can back up a menu and install an OS from your MicroSD card. The purpose of all these shenanigans is so you don't have to lose your working Android install while installing something else.
Titanium Backup - A software backup program that requires root access to work. It also has a ton of other features loosely related to backing up. It is the simplest way to prevent AT&T from updating your version of Android to the unrooted current version. Having said that, it is anything but simple because of the user interface. You might investigate alternative methods for preventing auto-updating.
Be aware that whatever software (e.g., file manager) you use to hunt down files and folders on your phone is probably not going to be showing you everything. There are hundreds of programs that your phone uses, some of which are hidden. Titanium Backup does appear to be capable of showing a true full list of apps (including system apps). This is pertinent, because the AT&T Software Update program is hidden very well.
Potential costs:
$10-20 US approximately for a MicroSD card. There's fast ones that are in that price range. Google for reviews.
$5.99 for Titanium Backup from the Google Play store.
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Life got pretty busy there for a minute... I was able to get Titanium Backup I have had a good SD card for a while now safestrap SuperSU towelroot everything that I need. But this being my first time and not really ever using the software, it's giving me a little bit of anxiety. Before trying process the root I had a couple of questions that I definitely would like to get a solid answer on they might sound stupid but I'd rather sound stupid then not have a phone and ask lol. Okay how about we know I have a Note 3 SM n910a AT&T original carrier swapped over to Metro PCS I'm on one of their $50 plans which I think is unlimited everything but no tether so I have been using PDA and foxfi tethering from my phone to my computer... my roommate has a hotspot but he is rarely home. I need to know if it is possible to complete the root in that situation also the person from the thread that you sent me to confused me as far as making sure you have the ROM pre-downloaded. It just confused me I'm to the point I want to have somebody jump on TeamViewer with me and just make sure I don't screw up too bad.. I did go look at them custom robs as well if anybody would like to share their favorites or what they think is a good easy ROM to be able to play around with it and not mess it up too bad I would love any suggestions from anybody
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Life got pretty busy there for a minute... I was able to get Titanium Backup I have had a good SD card for a while now safestrap SuperSU towelroot everything that I need. But this being my first time and not really ever using the software, it's giving me a little bit of anxiety. Before trying process the root I had a couple of questions that I definitely would like to get a solid answer on they might sound stupid but I'd rather sound stupid then not have a phone and ask lol. Okay how about we know I have a Note 3 SM n910a AT&T original carrier swapped over to Metro PCS I'm on one of their $50 plans which I think is unlimited everything but no tether so I have been using PDA and foxfi tethering from my phone to my computer... my roommate has a hotspot but he is rarely home. I need to know if it is possible to complete the root in that situation also the person from the thread that you sent me to confused me as far as making sure you have the ROM pre-downloaded. It just confused me I'm to the point I want to have somebody jump on TeamViewer with me and just make sure I don't screw up too bad.. I did go look at them custom robs as well if anybody would like to share their favorites or what they think is a good easy ROM to be able to play around with it and not mess it up too bad I would love any suggestions from anybody
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I just ended up stayin on kk rooted on mine. Everytime i goto lolipop i brick it. Its almost a hassle to try. I would odin the kk firmware and use towel root. Install xposed and some root apps. If ures is anything like mine dont debloat it. I debloat lightly. And next reboot get all kinds of spen and other force closes. The note 3 in general seem unstable. But i need to restore m8ne back stock now as its keeps force closing. I will be starting mine over for the 100th time it feels like. Dont let my ramblings discourage you. It is a awsome device and having a lgg5 iphone 5 and a few others my note 3s outer glass is destroyed. Got it like that. I would take the note 3 over the rest if i could get it to run rite more than 2 or 3 days at a time. Ive. Always set all my devices the same way. Debloated them the same but this one is really touchy.... Im on here a lot if u gots any ?s just hollar at me.
If you're still interested in an easy way to root, use Wondershare Dr Phone. It worked for me on stock OC1 and then the just used Flashfire to flash whatever I wanted.
is it possible to root my galaxy s21u? if possible how should it be done and is it safe to do so?
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is it possible to root my galaxy s21u? if possible how should it be done and is it safe to do so?
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I'm not sure if Exynos can be root as of now...If you are on the SD version, there are some posts here that show how to unlock the BL, install magisk and SU...but honestly, it's best to wait until some foolproof method is out...whatever be the case, you will lose Knox and other Knox related stuff
Exynos can be rooted I believe, but ask yourself why you want or need to root your phone.
I've had various Android phones since around 2009, and this is the first Android device I've owned that I haven't immediately rooted, and don't immediately see the need to. Previously, I mainly rooted because I wanted XprivacyLUA, Viper4Android and AFWall (amongst other things like Titanium Backup and Root Explorer but they're the main three). However, in the 3 weeks I've had this phone I've not really missed them. I use Netguard for a firewall, and the DAC appears to be good enough to not really need Viper. XPrivacy is a miss, but not one I can l can't deal with.
I'm not ruling out rooting it at some point in the future. I've just decided it's not required right now. Especially as I've started using Samsung Pay and that would immediately and permanently be lost once Knox is tripped.