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How likely is it that MI A2 will get the 'GCAM' mod

Hi i'm new here and have a question,
I have been using the MI A1 for nearly a year now and my partner who is not really very technically minded (but more so than me) came to xda and downloaded some kind of 'mod' that put GCAM on my phone apparently without any risk or hacking knowledge and in short I absolutely loved it and went from disliking my A1 to loving the nicely balanced photos it could produce.
Fast forward to today I recieved a MI A2 for my birthday and even though I'm enjoying the bigger screen I am really struggling with the camera app that came on it, I really want to be happy with my new phone and give my MI A1 to my son but atm I don't want to let it go just because of GCAM feature.
So my question is , is it likely that a similar technophobe friendly/risk free method of putting GCAM on my MI A2 will appear in the near future so that my partner can easily put it on for me or am I going to be forever stuck with the MIUI camera.
Does anyone else feel the same about the MIUI camera app, that it just seems a little unbalanced when compared to MI A1 with the GCAM feature added or is it just me being ungrateful?
Thank you for your time

GCam is already available for the Mi A2. Further more, the full MIUI camera app is also available so just let your partner dig the forum up a bit and install it As far as I've seen, the results are great

https://photos.app.goo.gl/nFcRvjmpH2e7tahP7
Taken with gcam in Sopron(Hungary) yesterday.

balazs312 said:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nFcRvjmpH2e7tahP7
Taken with gcam in Sopron(Hungary) yesterday.
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Very Nice photos, lights and sharpness, however, focus dots present in some of them. Once you seen them, you never can unseen them.

Best stable rom currently?

Hey guys i want to know if anyone can guide or suggest best working rom other then ofcourse mi rom . I have tried evolution rom and pixel experience rom. Evolution was working great, only issue is screen dead randomly. While pixel experience is strange , screen lag, front camera pop issues .
So if you guys happy with one rom, ticks all bars. Would be great.

I've planned to buy this phone, but I kinda disappointed about custom roms development. there is no stable PIE yet when ppl expecting android 10 already. This is not a "Top Seller" phone deserves ...

It's still only a mere few months since it launched. It'll take some time for more development to pop-up. AFAIK most of the devs are holding back until sources for android 10 are released completely.
Compared to devices like Poco F1 this one didn't get extra promotion especially on xda (like how the F1 got distributed to top devs just like the RN8Pro now for seeding development), also probably has lesser sales in comparison .. so it'll just take a bit more time and should soon speed up in light of the stable android 10 based updates.

nakulp said:
It's still only a mere few months since it launched. It'll take some time for more development to pop-up. AFAIK most of the devs are holding back until sources for android 10 are released completely.
Compared to devices like Poco F1 this one didn't get extra promotion especially on xda (like how the F1 got distributed to top devs just like the RN8Pro now for seeding development), also probably has lesser sales in comparison .. so it'll just take a bit more time and should soon speed up in light of the stable android 10 based updates.
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My k20 pro is on way to me, and i think people should be more patient, its new device, to make a good stable rom you have to work for months on it. This device will definitely got support for many years.

nakulp said:
It's still only a mere few months since it launched. It'll take some time for more development to pop-up. AFAIK most of the devs are holding back until sources for android 10 are released completely.
Compared to devices like Poco F1 this one didn't get extra promotion especially on xda (like how the F1 got distributed to top devs just like the RN8Pro now for seeding development), also probably has lesser sales in comparison .. so it'll just take a bit more time and should soon speed up in light of the stable android 10 based updates.
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Agree, but OP7 Pro and K20 Pro released at the same time, almost same devices and challenges like FOD, Pop-up camera and etc. Also OP7 Pro got official custom roms too rather than unofficial ones. kinda jealous ...

There's no stable alternative to the miui 10 rom. Even miui 11 is quite buggy.
I've tried all of the roms on here. They each have their quirks and bugs. After trying aosp gestures, miui 11 is leagues ahead too. That's another thing to consider.

emperor280 said:
Agree, but OP7 Pro and K20 Pro released at the same time, almost same devices and challenges like FOD, Pop-up camera and etc. Also OP7 Pro got official custom roms too rather than unofficial ones. kinda jealous ...
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The fan following & 'professional reviewers' following of One Plus is much larger than that of Redmi.
It's almost like they consider themselves the Apple of Android thus sometimes the mad, blind hype to get the latest one == larger dev interest.
Jealousy is totally normal, even I felt the same when there was so much interest in poco f1 & kernel development by several elite devs & also the time when I'd a SD821 Mi Note 2 but Pixel had a more highly thriving community but nevertheless good things like roms & kernels started coming out in about 9-10 months & still decent today..
If the hardware is strong, the device sources made available asap after official releases then we'll have development for quite a long time! :highfive:

emperor280 said:
I've planned to buy this phone, but I kinda disappointed about custom roms development. there is no stable PIE yet when ppl expecting android 10 already. This is not a "Top Seller" phone deserves ...
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All I hear in this forum is "mimimimimi"... What's wrong with this community? Be patient please!

The Mi 9T pro / K20 pro is a great device considering the price of $ 370.
+ 4000mAh battery
+ No notch
+ Amoled screen
+ Quick charge 27 W
- But I dislike miui in every single way
On the other hand, I think about oneplus 7 considering the price of $ 400:
+ Dual speakers
+ Amoled screen
+ Main camera with OIS
++ Oxygen OS (like vanilla android)
- 3700 mAh
- only in black color for this price
- screen with notch
In my opinion, I decided to wait a little longer while I follow the development of custom roms.

Question how is xiaomi vs samsung in pushing new updates?how often?

how is xiaomi vs samsung in pushing new updates?how often?
thnx

Samsung wins hands down for me ! Regular (monthly) updates, always latest security patches....

s3axel said:
Samsung wins hands down for me ! Regular (monthly) updates, always latest security patches....
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im asking that for my Deliberation - which phone to buy - ultra 21 or mi 11 pro

Ultra 21 as Mi 11 has default hard coded Google dialer which is ugly and not very user friendly, a total deal breaker for me.
But if you have patience to go with 1) boot locker unblocking 2) Change recovery 3) Download and instal EU Rom 4) Restore your apps and data then you can choose Mi 11.

Shailendra Garg said:
Ultra 21 as Mi 11 has default hard coded Google dialer which is ugly and not very user friendly, a total deal breaker for me....
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Hmmm, isnt it Samsung Dialer on the S21U ?...well, anyhow, you can change the default dialer (I'm using True Phone for some time now)...

I am not sure about usefulness of samsung dialer or true dialer but missing Miui dialer a lot.

xiaomi is useless at updates, flagships get a bit better treatment but montly patches, no never.
they couldnt deliver security patches even on android one devices. they are/were always late, and they even skiped a few months.
the only way to get a decent rom is with unlock/customs.

so , maybe oneplus 9 pro will do better jobe in all aspects including updates?

Updates are way overrated. They can and do break phones.
The 21U has a big price tag and no SD card slot.
Running Android 11 and that OS is less than stellar. I'm not impressed.
There's also owners experiencing the display dying, just goes black. Their are a couple XDA members that had it happen.
A used Note 10+/Pie* or a Note 20U/Q* are better phones in my opinion. It will be the next major release that holds any hope and that maybe influenced by the chipset availability or lack of.
I'm seriously considering buying another 10+, well built, fast, stable and a lot less issues with hardware and the bloody OS. It's a solid performer with a drop dead gorgeous square corner display. Running at 60hz but no tint or brightness issues; colors and gamma are excellent.
*Snapdragon variant, if you want to root maybe not a good choice, otherwise the best chipset

mmns said:
how is xiaomi vs samsung in pushing new updates?how often?
thnx
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I have had Xiaomi Mi 11 ultra for more than 3 weeks now. It is my first Xiaomi device ever, so I can't comment on it's update frequency or quality. However, I have had quite a long experience with Samsung flagship smartphones since 2010. Of late Samsung has really improved their software update frequency and quality.
I have S21 ultra 16/512 GB sitting iny drawer for past 3 weeks as I wanted to give Mi 11 ultra a try for its camera.
My observations:
1. Camera - Still and Videos - Mi 11 ultra is better overall. S21 ultra is not bad at all though, with very consistent output in all conditions.
2. Display - S21 ultra has slight edge as it seems a notch brighter under sunlight. Quality wise I would say both are neck to neck.
3. Battery - Mi 11 ultra seems to have better battery backup (with similar settings), especially the standby drain with 4G data on all the time. Also, the charging is much faster on Mi 11 ultra.
4. Design & Build quality - Personal preference. Tie IMO. Xiaomi has really made a premium flagship this time. I mean the Mi 11 ultra doesn't even have any percievable panel gaps like S21 ultra!
5. Audio - Mi 11 ultra has better sounding stereo speakers IMO (better lows). Sound via galaxy buds live is similar on both.
6. Performance - Snapdragon 888 powered Mi 11 ultra is better than Exynos S21 ultra for gaming and media editing apps.
7. UI - Samsung's one UI is better IMO with lesser hard-coded junk (at least you don't need a third party app to disable Google apps on Samsung)! I might have a bias here, as I'm used to Samsung UI for years.
8. Extra features - S21 ultra has S pen support. Mi 11 ultra has IR blaster, Heart rate sensor and a 55W charger included. Also, the option for higher storage (512 GB) is there in S21 ultra, if you want.
Conclusion - I'm honestly blown away with the quality Xiaomi is offering for the price of 70k INR! I honestly bought it to break Samsung monotony in my smartphone upgrades, and I think I will keep it untill Samsung lures me back with something better in future.
P.S - OnePlus 9 pro is not in the same league as the the other two IMO!

well yes, xiaomi does make good hardware. software not so much.
if you check out their own c.mi.com forums, there are countless users complaining, they just dont care. there's 0 trnsparency about which devices are maintained and which they've abandoned, you dont know when you buy one how long they'll "support" it. it's like they have no interest in support. a lot of the guides and fixes end up being found and shared by end users. the few bug they do achnowlwdge are just being trown around between google's fault, qualcomm's fault, and we need more data, we released a fix maybe it will work... it woukd be funny if it wouldnt be about actual problems. they have a habbit of breaking ota updates on stock phones, simply by missmatching release targets. yes, im not kidding. they invented the concept of stable beta releases. where they beta test updates on random users. honestly where with oems you want them to release a patch, with xiaomi you wonder if you should risk installing it in case they found some new and improved way to break your phone.
funny thing is a lot of devices get a lot more fixed on their custom roms. countless devices that they reported nonono we cannot upgrade it to android 10, the hardware is not compatible. guess what the custom roms did it the next day.
at least for now they let users unlock their bootloaders (even if the process is broken af) and lately they provide kernel source codes, even if they always forget to keep them up to date.
it is what it is, ive learnt my lessons the hard way, only getting their phones after i see custom roms and treat them as hardware vendors.

laviniu_c said:
well yes, xiaomi does make good hardware. software not so much.
if you check out their own c.mi.com forums, there are countless users complaining, they just dont care. there's 0 trnsparency about which devices are maintained and which they've abandoned, you dont know when you buy one how long they'll "support" it. it's like they have no interest in support. a lot of the guides and fixes end up being found and shared by end users. the few bug they do achnowlwdge are just being trown around between google's fault, qualcomm's fault, and we need more data, we released a fix maybe it will work... it woukd be funny if it wouldnt be about actual problems. they have a habbit of breaking ota updates on stock phones, simply by missmatching release targets. yes, im not kidding. they invented the concept of stable beta releases. where they beta test updates on random users. honestly where with oems you want them to release a patch, with xiaomi you wonder if you should risk installing it in case they found some new and improved way to break your phone.
funny thing is a lot of devices get a lot more fixed on their custom roms. countless devices that they reported nonono we cannot upgrade it to android 10, the hardware is not compatible. guess what the custom roms did it the next day.
at least for now they let users unlock their bootloaders (even if the process is broken af) and lately they provide kernel source codes, even if they always forget to keep them up to date.
it is what it is, ive learnt my lessons the hard way, only getting their phones after i see custom roms and treat them as hardware vendors.
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I have zero confidence in Chinese products especially in sophisticated electronics. The CCP is omnipresent in Chinese manufacturing and culture. Expect hardware, firmware and software backdoors and/or spyware.
Actions have consequences...

blackhawk said:
I have zero confidence in Chinese products especially in sophisticated electronics. The CCP is omnipresent in Chinese manufacturing and culture. Expect hardware, firmware and software backdoors and/or spyware.
Actions have consequences...
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well... tough... almost everything's made over there.

laviniu_c said:
well... tough... almost everything's made over there.
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No, not true... and it's a lick on you. Samsung ie SK is a US ally.
One of the reasons I'll never buy a iPhone... they CCP sweatshops.

mmns said:
im asking that for my Deliberation - which phone to buy - ultra 21 or mi 11 pro
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I personally prefer the Mi 11 Ultra to s21 Ultra, but the S21 is better than the 11 Pro, although the 11 Pro is no slouch and considerably cheaper.

blackhawk said:
No, not true... and it's a lick on you. Samsung ie SK is a US ally.
One of the reasons I'll never buy a iPhone... they CCP sweatshops.
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Not entirely accurate my friend. https://techthelead.com/where-are-samsung-phones-made/
Here's from SamMobile https://www.sammobile.com/where-are-samsung-phones-made

jim262 said:
Not entirely accurate my friend. https://techthelead.com/where-are-samsung-phones-made/
Here's from SamMobile https://www.sammobile.com/where-are-samsung-phones-made
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Yeah I was thinking about that.
Hard to get around that for now. That may soon change. Being too dependent on global suppliers is a huge weakness.
The irony is this isn't a raw material but a manufacturing process that can be done anywhere.

mmns said:
so , maybe oneplus 9 pro will do better jobe in all aspects including updates?
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Don't count on that. You'll get one year of monthly security patches, one or two somewhat big updates and the next Android 12. Android 13 is questionable. I had the similar experience with my Oneplus 7T Pro - got only mothly security updates. It was supposed to get Adroid 12, but last i heard that it may never happen. And it got updated to Android 11 try to guess when - the day before the launch of Oneplus 9 end of march 2021 - three months after everyone else updated their flagships and half of midrangers to Android 11. Forget the promise about 3 years of software updates - 18 months is the top nowadays with Oneplus. And seeing how they are focused on their Nord devices that might be their last flagship. There's more money in midrangers.

General Great Performance

Hi Everyone,
It seems the device is performing great for everyone after the last batch of updates. Especially global enhanced rom.
This seems to be the only device with least problems threads on XDA (excluding .eu rom). I was a oneplus user before, and a pixel user earlier. Honestly, this device is best of all, even though stock rom is best, but features and enhancement in MIUI are really good, Oxygen OS is closest to stock, fastest (just for sometime, then now everything nearly the same), but with loads of bugs, most of them are just ignored and they just stay with you to the rest of the device life (my OP6T still got bugs since Launch date and now A11 still have them).
I bought this device just to test Xiaomi, I was about to buy OP9Pro and changed my mind on last minute (seriously last minute, had OP9Pro in cart already and was proceeding payment). And, surprisingly, I am really happy with my choice.
This is my experience with this device. I tried many devices, i stopped using Samsung since S9 (was my last device after starting with S3, S4, S6, Note 2, Note 3, Note 4, S8, S9) and i'll never go back to it, LG, Nexus, Pixel, Oneplus, Iphone 12 pro max.
And I really wanted to try Huawei if it had google service, and would love to see Harmony OS imported to Xiaomi if google services would work. But, it is what it is.
I am not biased to any device or brand, and I like to try new experience, luckily, this is one of best experiences with a new device I had.

I'm very happy with my Mi 11 Ultra now too. I've even flashed the latest Android 12 based 21.10.20 Xiaomi.EU weekly ROM and the battery life and stability has been rock solid.
I wasn't very impressed and blown away at the start - the camera wasn't performing that well and there were a lot of bugs and snagging issues there and there with it. It's now so much better and I'm really enjoying my phone too.

kyero985 said:
I'm very happy with my Mi 11 Ultra now too. I've even flashed the latest Android 12 based 21.10.20 Xiaomi.EU weekly ROM and the battery life and stability has been rock solid.
I wasn't very impressed and blown away at the start - the camera wasn't performing that well and there were a lot of bugs and snagging issues there and there with it. It's now so much better and I'm really enjoying my phone too.
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Yes android 12 beta camera much better quality than 11
Night mode is faster
Auto mode great too
But camera app lag and makes phone heat

rowihel2012 said:
Yes android 12 beta camera much better quality than 11
Night mode is faster
Auto mode great too
But camera app lag and makes phone heat
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Does Spotify still stutter even when you send a WhatsApp message?

Agree. This phone rocks, it is rock solid and performs great. Really happy of my choice

hassanaliyeh said:
Hi Everyone,
It seems the device is performing great for everyone after the last batch of updates. Especially global enhanced rom.
This seems to be the only device with least problems threads on XDA (excluding .eu rom). I was a oneplus user before, and a pixel user earlier. Honestly, this device is best of all, even though stock rom is best, but features and enhancement in MIUI are really good, Oxygen OS is closest to stock, fastest (just for sometime, then now everything nearly the same), but with loads of bugs, most of them are just ignored and they just stay with you to the rest of the device life (my OP6T still got bugs since Launch date and now A11 still have them).
I bought this device just to test Xiaomi, I was about to buy OP9Pro and changed my mind on last minute (seriously last minute, had OP9Pro in cart already and was proceeding payment). And, surprisingly, I am really happy with my choice.
This is my experience with this device. I tried many devices, i stopped using Samsung since S9 (was my last device after starting with S3, S4, S6, Note 2, Note 3, Note 4, S8, S9) and i'll never go back to it, LG, Nexus, Pixel, Oneplus, Iphone 12 pro max.
And I really wanted to try Huawei if it had google service, and would love to see Harmony OS imported to Xiaomi if google services would work. But, it is what it is.
I am not biased to any device or brand, and I like to try new experience, luckily, this is one of best experiences with a new device I had.
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THanks for that info. I have had the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra in my giztop cart for about 6 days now. I've been ready to purchase for a while, having seen many good positives about the device and its fantastic performance and camera.
I'm also moving from a very buggy Oneplus 6T. When I upgraded to Android 11.. they have the APN settins for my carrier completely incorrect. So no mobile data. I'm just done with this phone, however loved it previously.

EvilDeadFan said:
THanks for that info. I have had the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra in my giztop cart for about 6 days now. I've been ready to purchase for a while, having seen many good positives about the device and its fantastic performance and camera.
I'm also moving from a very buggy Oneplus 6T. When I upgraded to Android 11.. they have the APN settins for my carrier completely incorrect. So no mobile data. I'm just done with this phone, however loved it previously.
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Just FYI, any APN issues on OP6T will move to this one, I had same carrier issue with OP6T before I move here. But that is not a biggie for me.
But regarding bugs,. Hell yeah, OP6T had more bugs by at least 10 to 15 times more than this one. Especially after latest miui update, nearly clean.

EvilDeadFan said:
THanks for that info. I have had the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra in my giztop cart for about 6 days now. I've been ready to purchase for a while, having seen many good positives about the device and its fantastic performance and camera.
I'm also moving from a very buggy Oneplus 6T. When I upgraded to Android 11.. they have the APN settins for my carrier completely incorrect. So no mobile data. I'm just done with this phone, however loved it previously.
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I would wait until the new one launches, the old stock will get cheaper or you can get the new 12 for the same price

speedtripler said:
I would wait until the new one launches, the old stock will get cheaper or you can get the new 12 for the same price
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While the Xiaomi 12 will be launched this month, the 12 Ultra and the enhanced edition will come next summer or later.

rowihel2012 said:
Yes android 12 beta camera much better quality than 11
Night mode is faster
Auto mode great too
But camera app lag and makes phone heat
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Can you post some picture and the new interface?

Samdaja said:
While the Xiaomi 12 will be launched this month, the 12 Ultra and the enhanced edition will come next summer or later.
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Not that late, they're going to want something to compete with Samsung

Question "New" OnePlus 10 Pro Worth it

Hi,everyone been on iPhone on and off since the 3GS, I'm looking to upgrade my 11 Pro Max and thinking of getting the "New" OnePlus 10 Pro. I had the OnePlus 1 and the OnePlus 7T so I'm not new to OnePlus or OxagenIOs but the reviews have been mixed. I figured I would ask the community if it was worth the switch and if not the OnePlus 10 Pro https://nox.tips/ https://xender.vip/ any recommendations for a new phone, right now I'm also looking at the Pixel 6 Pro or thinking of waiting till the Pixel 7.

ohnalsega said:
Hi,everyone been on iPhone on and off since the 3GS, I'm looking to upgrade my 11 Pro Max and thinking of getting the "New" OnePlus 10 Pro. I had the OnePlus 1 and the OnePlus 7T so I'm not new to OnePlus or OxagenIOs but the reviews have been mixed. I figured I would ask the community if it was worth the switch and if not the OnePlus 10 Pro any recommendations for a new phone, right now I'm also looking at the Pixel 6 Pro or thinking of waiting till the Pixel 7.
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I would wait and see on the Pixel 7, I am sure it will be better than OP10 Pro.

Don't by this sh*t !!
Stupid, Disgusting, Buggy ColorOS (new OxygenOS) !!
No MSM Tool, No official ROM, No TWRP, No custom ROMs !!
First mistake and bootloop = Last one = No way to fix it !!
Also you must call it "OPPO 10 Pro"
"OnePlus" doesn't exists anymore !!
Just wait for pixel 7 ...
R.I.P. OnePlus and OxygenOS

What he said

S /\ E E D said:
Don't by this sh*t !!
Stupid, Disgusting, Buggy ColorOS (new OxygenOS) !!
No MSM Tool, No official ROM, No TWRP, No custom ROMs !!
First mistake and bootloop = Last one = No way to fix it !!
Also you must call it "OPPO 10 Pro"
"OnePlus" doesn't exists anymore !!
Just wait for pixel 7 ...
R.I.P. OnePlus and OxygenOS
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To provide an alternative perspective for the OP, I disagree with Saeed that the phone is garbage. ColorOS is not buggy for me, and I personally like the features. So personal preference here, you might like it or maybe not.
I can agree that it is a bummer there is no MSM tool, but IMO the only time I have needed that tool was when I was into custom ROMs and get a bad build, or I did something stupid by not reading instructions. Never had an issue with just OOS rooting and flashing.
Also, I have just have no time for tinkering/experimenting with my phone anymore and I am happy with just OOS. So I have no interest in custom ROMs, I don't have time to constantly be fixing my phone from buggy or custom stuff. I need it to be stable, have root and I am happy.
Same with TWRP, I haven't used that in probably 4 years now. All I do is unlock bootloader, boot a patched Magisk boot, patch the phone boot, and I am done. I have zero need for TWRP.
To the point about full flashable ROMs, one would only need them if they're constantly ROM hopping, which of course does not affect me.
So if you're like me and don't need custom ROMs or recovery, the phone will be great. I am very happy with it. If you're like Saeed, then you'll be posting multiple exclamation points after every sentence. All about perspective/preferences.
Sidenote, I personally was very disappointed when I tried the Pixel 6. Software had none of the features that OOS has, like screen off gestures (music control, flashlight ect), hide icons on status bar, ect. Just a bunch of small things that I didn't know I'd miss. Also, the charging speed was crazy slow compared to OnePlus, and finally the modem had the worse cell reception I have ever experienced in a smartphone. YMMV

I ditched mine, but it's a nice device with stock setup....

abdulhamid1978 said:
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Tensor 2 is rumored to still use weak A55 cores. If you want a flagship, the 7 is going to be quite far from being one. That's without even taking the garbage Samsung modem into account.

EtherealRemnant said:
Tensor 2 is rumored to still use weak A55 cores. If you want a flagship, the 7 is going to be quite far from being one. That's without even taking the garbage Samsung modem into account.
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Yes, the Pixel 6 modem was really bad. I returned it. If Pixel 7 has the same/similar, then Google done messed up

EtherealRemnant said:
Tensor 2 is rumored to still use weak A55 cores. If you want a flagship, the 7 is going to be quite far from being one. That's without even taking the garbage Samsung modem into account.
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I have no idea why Google persist to develop tensor cpu !!
Google: Just use the latest and greatest of Qualcomm snapdragon ...

S /\ E E D said:
I have no idea why Google persist to develop tensor cpu !!
Google: Just use the latest and greatest of Qualcomm snapdragon ...
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Only reason I got the OnePlus 9 and not the Pixel 6 was Tensor and the Samsung modem...

I wouldn't even take a free one. Boycott them

Pixel 7 will be the right choice, or maybe even Samsung. Oneplus has offically been added to my NEVER buy list. Tensor may be meh, but at least google releases factory images right away. I repeat NEVER BUY THIS GARBAGE PHONE

n0lan said:
Pixel 7 will be the right choice, or maybe even Samsung. Oneplus has offically been added to my NEVER buy list. Tensor may be meh, but at least google releases factory images right away. I repeat NEVER BUY THIS GARBAGE PHONE
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+1 Yeah!
With pixel we have full factory images FOR EVERY UPDATE

Bare in mind that the information gathered about the the pixel 7 is pre release and wont be a fair rep of the chip.
It's meant to be the same but improved chip so battery life will be improved.
Also GPU improvements which should make gaming a little better, top games and emulators could already run on the 6 and 6 pro respectively, so the 7 could hit a sweet spot with current software available, the one thing that was bad with the 6 was the battery and increasing heat when gaming.
Overall I think it's too early to tell, with Chinese devices being ever more spyware ridden and locked down I personally wouldn't be 100% happy getting any of them, certainly not any of the big ones like OnePlus / oppo / Xiaomi.
The pixel 7 I think will be the device that people will be flock to, developers and users alike.
I don't think it'll be perfect, nor was I overehelmed by the news of the SOC, but if I had to choose between that and the turds floating out of the south china sea then I'd go with the 7..
That's my thinking at this point.
Certainly send like the battleground of mobile devices is starting to look more political, I doubt that'll go away any time soon.

It's all a matter of personal preference.
I sent mine back today. Tried to like it, but it was frustrating the life out of me. Stuck my sim back in my S21 ultra and the difference between the two is like night and day.
I think my time with OnePlus is done after all the years being with them.
If Samsung had an alert slider then that would be just perfect for me.

hallo dare said:
It's all a matter of personal preference.
I sent mine back today. Tried to like it, but it was frustrating the life out of me. Stuck my sim back in my S21 ultra and the difference between the two is like night and day.
I think my time with OnePlus is done after all the years being with them.
If Samsung had an alert slider then that would be just perfect for me.
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If Samsung made a vanilla device with pure android they'd completely clean up..
Plus they need to drop that exynos crap and chill on the bootloader locking stuff.
Give people a choice.
Also I don't think you're alone in not getting another OnePlus.
They're dead

I really like the OnePlus 10 Pro 12/512GB, even the Oppofied software. My only issue with them is the nonsense with not being able to have custom rom.

I have the 12/256 variant and love it.
It's far more enjoyable than my pixel 6 pro was as well as my rog phone 5.
The last time I enjoyed a phone this much was the galaxy s10+ or my oneplus 7 pro

1BDB1 said:
I have the 12/256 variant and love it.
It's far more enjoyable than my pixel 6 pro was as well as my rog phone 5.
The last time I enjoyed a phone this much was the galaxy s10+ or my oneplus 7 pro
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The ROG has been on my shortlist as I do game on my devices, I'm considering one of them in the future.. a sort of get it as it is type of device rather than what it can be.
How does the ROG 5 compare to the 10 pro in regards to heavy apps/games

dladz said:
The ROG has been on my shortlist as I do game on my devices, I'm considering one of them in the future.. a sort of get it as it is type of device rather than what it can be.
How does the ROG 5 compare to the 10 pro in regards to heavy apps/games
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Oddly enough the oneplus can run pubg mobile on HDR and extreme fps and the rog can't. Overall I'd say it's the same for gaming. I'm running pubg mobile and genshin on the same settings on my 10 pro as I was on my rog.
The camera on the rog is absolutely **** as is the durability. It's not even water resistantet let alone waterproof. The game genie software is top notch though as are the air triggers and I'd say that it has bar none the best speakers in a phone.