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Respect this

If you in.ex brick your device, I undestand that you wanna fix it as fast as possible, and that you in panic post 100's of threads asking same question:
"I did this or that, blahblah, and my phone is dead/bricked/stuck in bootloader and so on,please help me im desperate...."
Not only do many post many threads in diffrent sections, they send several pm, and make contact on msn and mail.
DO NOT BEHAVE LIKE THAT, its damn annoying. I hate beeing contacted this way. I GET THE FRICKEN MESSAGE, and if I dont answer within a day or two then im not gonna answer. Its that easy.
So, please dont pm, msn, email or w/e to me if you have issues with bricking, flashing, soft reset, hard reset, where to find a fix to all the worlds problems and why you cant get it up......
I know I might sound like I need to calm down. But actually I am not "pissed off" I just dont have the time to help all with these issues, and when I say that word "all" I mean all, YOU included.
Im not answering anymore posts, pm, msn or email on theese issues, so dontwast your time.
thx
cheers
(please note that this was about those who contacts me in all these ways and then some, within few hours)
ps. When I say no, its NO. (you know who you are)

People should learn to use the search function a lot
Regards,
Carty..

This is funny, but then again it's not. This thread is definitely collecting views indeed. So Itje, your thoughts are indeed "felt" and "respected", by me and many others here. But those few anxious ones, I'm unsure as to why they post the same question(s) in different threads and forums. Laziness I suppose. I once was a junior noob, now I'm a senior noob helping others (as best as I can).
PS. Itje, you are a celebrity here, and those that constantly ask you for advice and complain, they are the paparazzi chasing you around. I'll be a bodyguard if you like, lol. I work in the justice system (in the states) so I know what it's like to have many people coming up to you asking for hookups, advice, and complain, and you are just trying to do what you enjoy with what you know. It's a headache and a half for sure.
Much Respect ..

lol, Im sure I can manage without a bodyguard.
I can speak for myself mostly, but a bit support from time to time is greatly appreciated not fake support, dont agree with me without agreeing with what I say
And yeah, search both using google and searchtab in xda forums are not frecuently used by newcommers, and maybe not seniors either, but what do I know?

No, but what Itje said is true. It does get annoying to be read messages or posts that deal with topics about their phones being bricked. Yes they're panicked, and yes they want to resolve the problem as soon as possible, but that's why we usualy posts warnings about flashing stuff to their phones. Realisticly, if you don't have the patience to do a search and look for answers, then you probabaly won't have the patience to follow the proper steps to flash a device, and that will result in a brick.
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This is funny, but then again it's not. This thread is definitely collecting views indeed. So Itje, your thoughts are indeed "felt" and "respected", by me and many others here. But those few anxious ones, I'm unsure as to why they post the same question(s) in different threads and forums. Laziness I suppose. I once was a junior noob, now I'm a senior noob helping others (as best as I can).
PS. Itje, you are a celebrity here, and those that constantly ask you for advice and complain, they are the paparazzi chasing you around. I'll be a bodyguard if you like, lol. I work in the justice system (in the states) so I know what it's like to have many people coming up to you asking for hookups, advice, and complain, and you are just trying to do what you enjoy with what you know. It's a headache and a half for sure.
Much Respect ..
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I am a Wizard owner. My sister has a Wing behaving badly. I came here to search a fix for her and stumbled upon your thread. PROPS TO YOU!!! I know the Wizard section is constantly mucked up with multiple threads, please help me....blah blah blah. I have taken to answering those threads with my new mantra:
DO NOT ATTEMPT ANYTHING ON YOUR DEVICE WITHOUT FIRST READING EVERY WIKI AND STICKY IN THIS SECTION (at least 3 times each!)...USE THE SEARCH BUTTON, READ PEOPLE'S SIGGY'S AS LINKS ARE OFTEN POSTED THERE TO HELP. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CUSTOMIZE AND/OR FIX YOUR DEVICE WITHOUT FIRST UNDERSTANDING YOUR DEVICE.
I am sure this often comes off as rude, but I feel your "pain" and found that sometimes a panicking noob needs this tough love, and will calm down, breathe, and discover the solution is right in front of them.
Again props to you for speaking your mind about this. And yes, this needs to be respected.

akashastrega said:
I am a Wizard owner. My sister has a Wing behaving badly. I came here to search a fix for her and stumbled upon your thread. PROPS TO YOU!!! I know the Wizard section is constantly mucked up with multiple threads, please help me....blah blah blah. I have taken to answering those threads with my new mantra:
DO NOT ATTEMPT ANYTHING ON YOUR DEVICE WITHOUT FIRST READING EVERY WIKI AND STICKY IN THIS SECTION (at least 3 times each!)...USE THE SEARCH BUTTON, READ PEOPLE'S SIGGY'S AS LINKS ARE OFTEN POSTED THERE TO HELP. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CUSTOMIZE AND/OR FIX YOUR DEVICE WITHOUT FIRST UNDERSTANDING YOUR DEVICE.
I am sure this often comes off as rude, but I feel your "pain" and found that sometimes a panicking noob needs this tough love, and will calm down, breathe, and discover the solution is right in front of them.
Again props to you for speaking your mind about this. And yes, this needs to be respected.
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thx mate, for the support.
and thx to others who has expressed support on this issue, both in pm and in posts.
ps
its not that ppl cant contact me and ask for help or w/e, im just not answering what i call incomplete descriptions of w/e, or provide "walk throughs" on rom building, flashing and what not
have a nice day/night/evening/morning...depending on your timezone
cheers

Yeah its pretty bad that people are just diving in without taking the time to understand what they are actually doing when they change the os on their phones. Ive bricked mine at least twice today, but I know how to fix it. Its really simple to fix half the problems that we have when we screw with our gear.
If it doesnt boot, or boot right. Hard reset.
That doesnt fix it. Boot loader. Set back to factory.
This stuff is really simple. Building Roms. Different story.

I think the mods should include a "search first" rule. If anyone posts something thats been discussed they should get a warning, and if it happens again, ban them. I've seen this on tons of forums that have this same problem and it works out quit well .

Have we all had an "oh ****" moment when we realized we were doing it wrong, or incompletely?
Yes.
But if you READ READ READ you won't brick your device. There's always a risk, there's always the possibility, but I can't remember the last time I actually bricked ANY device! I'm not a huge fan of the current flashing method for these custom Wing ROMs - largely because the official RUU flasher is just... more reliable. But regardless, I've STILL not bricked my phone, because I FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS.
I think that people get so excited and think it's EASY and ANYONE can do it. And they kill their systems. It's a similar situation with people who MOD their PS2 or Wii or DS or PSP, they routinely muck it up because they can't be arsed to go read the stickies and do some research before jumping in.
Keep up the good work, itje!

Gurm said:
Have we all had an "oh ****" moment when we realized we were doing it wrong, or incompletely?
Yes.
But if you READ READ READ you won't brick your device. There's always a risk, there's always the possibility, but I can't remember the last time I actually bricked ANY device! I'm not a huge fan of the current flashing method for these custom Wing ROMs - largely because the official RUU flasher is just... more reliable. But regardless, I've STILL not bricked my phone, because I FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS.
I think that people get so excited and think it's EASY and ANYONE can do it. And they kill their systems. It's a similar situation with people who MOD their PS2 or Wii or DS or PSP, they routinely muck it up because they can't be arsed to go read the stickies and do some research before jumping in.
Keep up the good work, itje!
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Well said.
READ READ READ...and when your eyes burn and you see in triple...READ the one in the middle!!!
Modding your phone is much like sex. At first you are excited to get down and dirty so you dive right in and it often is disappointing (because you didn't know what you were doing-damn virgins), but as you do it more, you get better at it, and eventually you have moments when you go "damn I'm good"!!
The first time you mod your phone, you are excited and really likely to muck it up. But as you get to know your device, and experiment, you have those moments when you finish cooking a rom or something, and go..."damn I rock". But until you get to know the how's and why's, you will often be met with disappointments.

akashastrega said:
Well said.
READ READ READ...and when your eyes burn and you see in triple...READ the one in the middle!!!
Modding your phone is much like sex. At first you are excited to get down and dirty so you dive right in and it often is disappointing (because you didn't know what you were doing-damn virgins), but as you do it more, you get better at it, and eventually you have moments when you go "damn I'm good"!!
The first time you mod your phone, you are excited and really likely to muck it up. But as you get to know your device, and experiment, you have those moments when you finish cooking a rom or something, and go..."damn I rock". But until you get to know the how's and why's, you will often be met with disappointments.
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Speak for yourself...I think most can say the first time might be the best ever...a feeling that can't be replicated!

rquinn19 said:
Speak for yourself...I think most can say the first time might be the best ever...a feeling that can't be replicated!
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lmao

"Hey itje can you help me unbrick my wing.....Please oh come on man hey help me" lmao jk man I just wanted to say that I agrea with all of you guys and the whole "read and study before you do anything" Movement....lol I don't even got my wing yet but I have been surely studying so when It finally get's here, Hopefully tommorow anyways thanks all you guys for all the info and work you put into helping us all

diamond unlock free

I posted links to a free Diamond unlocker on here last week and subsequently recieved a 7 day ban.
The ban stated the reason was "posting other peoples work".
I didnt know if the software was working,fake,safe or easy to use as my device is already unlocked but in the nature of xdadev forums i posted it in case it was of use to anybody.
I most definately didnt claim the software as my own nor did i try to profit from the work of others.
I guess it upset somebody as like i said i recieved a weeks ban for my efforts which i think was kinda harsh considering.
Wouldve have been a bit more civil to have just removed the post,links and PMed asking/demanding that i dont post the software here or anywhere else and i would have happily complied.
**** i still dont know who banned me and for what reason exactly but i aint complaining about a poxy 7 day ban that was easily bypassed by logging in as a guest to browse the forums, just wouldve been nice to been asked a question before being shot.
Just for the record

If your post was legitimate (which I don't know if it was), surely somebody was jealous and wanted his own work promoted.
Wouldn't surprise me if he even wants money for it.

It's cuz the devs are charging money for unlocking the devices. They say it will be free later, so I guess until then nobody else can start giving out codes for free.
There's a couple of posts about it in the ROM Dev thread

adwinp said:
If your post was legitimate (which I don't know if it was), surely somebody was jealous and wanted his own work promoted.
Wouldn't surprise me if he even wants money for it.
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Yea thats what happened as far as I can see.
The software I aquired is being sold by the dev/devs which is fair enough if they feel its worth the asking price and theres a market then **** it
let them eat cake.
My reason for this post was just that I didnt care for the way the matter was dealt with by banning me with out so much as a valid reason or reply to my attempts to contact them over the last week.
I also posted to state the fact that i didnt claim the software to be mine or attempt to gain financial or kudos rewards for the post.
If like I stated I had been approached with the facts rather than just getting banned I would have happily removed the link and file from my hosting and even blagged that the software I had was a fake if that would have appeased the powers that be and kept the coin rolling in for the dev/devs.
The fact is the unlock solution is now in the wild and its probably pissed on theyre chips.
Also im now getting unsolicited PMs asking for the software and I aint the ignorant type.
I can understand people being pissed off as i was unintentionaly offering for free what they was selling but i just think the matter could have been dealt with differently.
Fex

I think that the software author in general has the right to ask for a remuneration for his hard work, if he feels like it.
I know exactly the feeling.
But what bothers me, is exactly what you've described: the WAY it's been delt with.

adwinp said:
I think that the software author in general has the right to ask for a remuneration for his hard work, if he feels like it.
I know exactly the feeling.
But what bothers me, is exactly what you've described: the WAY it's been delt with.
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I wholeheartedly agree with you mate which is why like I mentioned If I had been informed I would have if able to, happily taken measures to repair and repent my minor discretion

I understand where you’re coming from innocent until proven guilty and all that. But, sh*t happens then you die... so don’t worry about it.
fex said:
The fact is the unlock solution is now in the wild and its probably pissed on theyre chips.
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I also agree with you regarding the unlocker is out in the wild. It’s available on bit torrent and various online forums mostly in foreign languages...
I do like the idea that they have come up with which is to give it out for free to people who support this site and charge the ones that don’t as its most likely these people who will go on to profit out of the software by selling it on as a service.

hint hint:
well, one of the names it goes by is libera_diamond.

im sure someone in this forum selling that...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414835 see the link and any question of who banned you will be solved my friend...

adwinp said:
hint hint:
well, one of the names it goes by is libera_diamond.
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I already found it.... used it... and... IT WORKS!...
Just unlocked 16 Diamonds from Portuguese TMN!...

adwinp said:
hint hint:
well, one of the names it goes by is libera_diamond.
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Well, found it as well, cheers!

instructions within
can anyone assist with a bit more user friendly instructions for the above topic, and do i need to use an xp system rather than my vista device?
all help would be appreciated.
cheers

help....
can someone supply better instructions, for this unlocker....

Works on Vista Ultimate Perfectly!
The unlocker works on vista. I should know. It worked perfectly on my phone.
The last step's hit and miss. For some reason (i'm guessing the dev had a twisted sense of humor), the app'll close instantly unless you try and freeze it open. The best way to do this is launch diamunlock.exe and press the UP button on your phone REPEATEDLY. After about 5-10 tries, the program will stay open and you can take your time.
I do admire what the dev was doing by selling this but TBH from what i've seen about XDA-Dev, software is given away and donations are asked for later. This new approach of charge first and that's it, while expected, doesn't seem to fit with the ethos of xda-dev and as such, i don't feel like i should promote it by paying for the software.
Now if it had been donationware? Hell yeah you best believe i'd have sent 10-20 bucks the dev's way.

Hy,
With this solution I've unlocked severall phones, and since I believe that knollege should be payed, I've given already 2 donations to this forum in general... of course I refuse to pay to anyone in specific if the solution is out for free!...
And I think everyone should recognise this forum's usefullness with some sort of donation, either knollege or money.
BR

Well, this thread surely doesnt serve any purpose other than simply gossiping (in a polite language) about someone else's work around here. So thread closed and I dont think its wrong. Will be moved to trash soon, just wanting the OP to take his time and read this post. PM a MOD if you feel otherwise

Ok Root but what about Apps I paid for

After some reading I came to find that you cannot dl paid apps if you root your phone. I would like to have the apps that I paid for. Is there anything like the iphone hacked phones where you can access the market?

With almost all of the recent ROMs you can download/access paid apps. That problem was fixed a loooooooonng time ago.

Wrong section, and if you would have done more reading you would have found that it is no longer a problem.

After some reading I came to find that you cannot dl paid apps if you root your phone. I would like to have the apps that I paid for. Is there anything like the iphone hacked phones where you can access the market?
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I find that basic reading and comprehension skills to be your main problem because it seems that your lack of these two key skills/superhuman abilities leads to you not being able to post this thread in the correct forum and not performing any type of search for an answer to your own question.
If we are able to solve these two of your presumed plethora of "issues" i believe that you'll live a better life etc. etc. etc...

stefan.buddle said:
I find that basic reading and comprehension skills to be your main problem because it seems that your lack of these two key skills/superhuman abilities leads to you not being able to post this thread in the correct forum and not performing any type of search for an answer to your own question.
If we are able to solve these two of your presumed plethora of "issues" i believe that you'll live a better life etc. etc. etc...
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I have a life, a very busy life, I'm not gonna sit here all day reading about my cell phone.

Elmi said:
I have a life, a very busy life, I'm not gonna sit here all day reading about my cell phone.
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Well, I hate to break it to you buddy, but this whole customization thing with the phones isnt a one stop shop. If you dont read, you're going to brick your phone. So since you have this all important life, and by implication, are too good to read up, perhaps you oughtta unroot until you have time to do things right, like maybe reading the sticky that says "dont post threads like this one in the freaking dev section".

Elmi said:
I have a life, a very busy life, I'm not gonna sit here all day reading about my cell phone.
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I'm sorry, I don't help stuck up idiots who can't even attempt to help themselves.
eabod....

If it really takes you all day of reading just to understand your cell phone, then you do have a problem.

As said the new roms dont suffer the same fate as the older ones. You should be just fine.
XDA is the wrong place to ask questions, even in the correct forum. People overall here seem to have a attitude that they know it all, and were born that way..its almost like they just jump on the bashing bandwagon simply because its the "happening" thing to do. Mind you only a very few are able to build and release roms, customizations and so on the rest are moochers only they like to pretend they are something special.
If you search, generally you will find what your looking for eventually, sometimes not at all and sometimes you find it but its so buried by other crap you dont know you found it. I guess your best bet is to make damn sure you posted your question in the correct forum, then hope that someone deems you important enough to answer..or just search the countless pages and deprive the bashers of the reason most are here and dont ask...my how the post counts would fall...you see a question asked and its jump on em fellas, he asked a question..1 smart remarks not enough, they line up to leave replies that most have thought of days earlier...just waiting to use it instead of simply linking to the answer, giving an idea where it may be found or something...nah, just bash em, that makes this place look all the more better, a much more friendly environment lol, whatever.
I enjoy xda, but honestly some of you make for a truly elementary experience, while a few others do a lot more...you come here for the roms, mods, hacks, for most of us not the ones we did, we can do or the ones we had a hand in creating..and you cant take a minute or two to answer a few questions? Think of the work the actual devs have done, the time involved, the testing over and over...wanna help some? Answer peoples simple questions without being an ass! If nothing else link em to where they should go!

I disagree, everytime these questions pop up, they are usually answered in the first reply, if not the second one.
But for the most part, I think being an ass is just a way to keep these wrong threads to the minimal.
I've never seen someone being an ass when a member ask a question (doesn't matter related to the topic of not) at the end of a ROMs' thread.

gn02256676 said:
I disagree, everytime these questions pop up, they are usually answered in the first reply, if not the second one.
But for the most part, I think being an ass is just a way to keep these wrong threads to the minimal.
I've never seen someone being an ass when a member ask a question (doesn't matter related to the topic of not) at the end of a ROMs' thread.
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I understand that, somewhat. But after his question was answered, do you see all the other people that posted, for no other reason then to try and belittle the guy that asked the question? Thats what I am referring to, those comments do nothing to help anyone, provide no use what so ever out side of making xda look like a buncha jerks.
Look at all the people that say its not helping by having questions in a release post, as it adds more to the dev having to sift over the comments, yet the " flashing now!" is just as off topic in reality as its not helping the dev know anything about any issues one may have..if people have to say "flashing now" then say I flashed, and heres what I found..see what I am saying?

Honestly people are going to be jerks on any forums, so it just comes with the territory. Usually you can avoid this by trying to learn some basic forum rules. Most are stickyed at the top of the forums. IMO use the search and spend like 15 to 20 mins to figure out what is going on in the forums. And then if your still stuck post in the Q&A forums.

The thing about this post that really roasts my goat is the OP lack of motivation to try and find his own answers. We are not his tech support and everybody here does this for free...Its disrespectful, insulting and lazy...
I have tons of respect for people that try to figure out problems for themselves first (search, google, read).
Please see this video [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting] for proper forum etiquette. (I know, its old but its still damn funny and so true...)

@nickwinn does "eabod" really stand for what i think it stands for? if it does just mention something about the boondocks and i will know for sure

Elmi said:
I have a life, a very busy life, I'm not gonna sit here all day reading about my cell phone.
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Are we supposed to cater to your busy life when you decide to root your phone and not take the time to research more into it?

ThR1LL said:
Are we supposed to cater to your busy life when you decide to root your phone and not take the time to research more into it?
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but of course! what else are we here for? to help with reasonably asked questions where the poster doesn't get a massive attitude problem? of course not, we must be here to answer everyone of joe blow's question and disregard any attitude he/she may get!!!! please search next time before posting such mess ThR1LL
i think my head just burst from so much sarcasm

Hey at least the op took the time to read a little bit maybe it was outdated but a least he did try, so cut the guy some slack, he did better than some other people who read nothing and come right to here and expect some hand holding

People like the OP are why this forum is getting worse, and to ducter if you really think we are all assholes why do you come here? If you ask a question in the wrong forum we will most likely give you ****, but also give you a little help. If you use the correct forum we will help you, unless your question is ssomething you could of found out in less then 5 minutes by searching.
This forum has 100's of thousands of members and if half of them are asking questions that have been answered hundreds of times it clogs the forum and we lose sight of other valuable posts or people with real questions about problems that are new and have not been solved.
Furthermore when someone says some **** like they don't have time to read about there cell phone then why are you here in the first place? Don't root your phone or better yet goto the tmobile store and ask them to help you fix your rooted G1. If you can't take the time to read like everyone else does/should then go buy a lg env or something and maybe it will be simple enough for you to figure out.

How do I downgrade to 2.1?

I have the cognition beta5 installed right now and I would like to go back to 2.1 becouse my market downloads are slow very slow and my battery drains too. Is there a super noob way to down grade and if u could please tell me exactly step by step thx
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You got cognition on your phone, so you must have visited the developer forum...
Have you even tried to find the answer on your own? I know you are asking for help, but didn't you look up "how to restore to stock" before you started? What if there is no way - like on some other phones? Why would you do a major mod, without looking up how to go back before you even started?
Try the first post in the developer section - the stickied one - the captivate bible.

Look for odin one click to down grade. I believe there is a thread dedicated to it. I've noticed some off things in the market but nothing worth downgrading for.
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Alphadog I know it can be downgraded but I could not find the post that says how it can be done thats why I asked
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I must agree with what Alphadog said. You did not even bother to search. If you did there's absolutely no reason why this thread would be here. It's on the first page of the Android Development Section of these forums. You can't fricking miss it. But because you did, here's the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989

alphadog00 said:
You got cognition on your phone, so you must have visited the developer forum...
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Stewart, shut up and stop flaming before you get banned. Just some friendly advice. You might just want to edit out that last post of yours.
Sent from my Captivate

stewart must be a tard
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miztaken1312 said:
Stewart, shut up and stop flaming before you get banned. Just some friendly advice. You might just want to edit out that last post of yours.
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You can't be banned from a site like this, if so you just open up another user name and email....come on guys you must be new, but just for you i will delete it, i just hate when a new person gets on here and is treated like dirt. The guy asked a simple question...just answer "yes or no" thats it no need for the "extra advise" especially if you can't be nice about it. Besides how do you know the guy never bothered to search...thats an assumption on your part and when you assume you just...well you know. Don't assume just answer the question without being a jerk about it. A smart comment can be hidden behind what was suppose to be "friendly advise" and it's plain to see that this alpha dog was being smart assuming that the guy had not done his homework before making changes to his phone. At the end of the day...this release was not a good release, as we can see a lot of members on this site are having problems with their phones now. This is phone hacking using an leaked aka stolen version of froyo 2.2 that was patched together. We all took a chance and downloaded it at our own risk and now some members are paying for it because that's what happens when you accept stolen merchandise sometimes there are consequenses. Once you download this version of froyo the android market does not recognize the new version of the firmware and so a lot of apps are no longer available for you on the market unless you uninstall it put your phone back to eclair 2.1 and then try to access the market to find you missing apps. Now there is an Official version of froyo that is going to be released and anyone who downloaded the leaked aka stolen version will not and i repeat will not get the ota update from att this has been stated because the att server no longer recognizes your phones firmware version. Once again you will have to use your USB cable and pray that the "iffy" samsung keis application will see your phones stolen firmware and allow you to update to the leagle version of froyo 2.2 that should be a lot more stable then the the leaked...aka stolen version that everyone fell for.

These things are always "install at your own risk". If you screw it up, be prepared to figure out how to fix it. What Alphadog was trying to get at, is that if you just search, heck you don't even need to do that as all the answers are on the first page of the Dev subforum, you can figure out how to do it. He's also right in saying people need to do their homework before they mod their phone. You NEED a plan. You need to know how to be able to start anew should something get borked or you need to return it or something else.
It is irritating lately that these forums have been getting filled with really nooby questions like how to assign a picture to a contact. If everyone would spend some time using the phone or using google or searching the forums, the answer would be blatantly obvious. I think for the most part we're all just fed up with these questions, but instead of "being smart assed" about it and flaming, we just need to ignore the thread and let someone else deal with it.

miztaken1312 said:
These things are always "install at your own risk". If you screw it up, be prepared to figure out how to fix it. What Alphadog was trying to get at, is that if you just search, heck you don't even need to do that as all the answers are on the first page of the Dev subforum, you can figure out how to do it. He's also right in saying people need to do their homework before they mod their phone. You NEED a plan. You need to know how to be able to start anew should something get borked or you need to return it or something else.
It is irritating lately that these forums have been getting filled with really nooby questions like how to assign a picture to a contact. If everyone would spend some time using the phone or using google or searching the forums, the answer would be blatantly obvious. I think for the most part we're all just fed up with these questions, but instead of "being smart assed" about it and flaming, we just need to ignore the thread and let someone else deal with it.
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That is true...or people who tend to be arogant in their thinking and looking down on folks who are not able to figure it out should use another forum. Thats all im trying to say. Heck what is the forum here for if not to help people. Check this out...I work in the mortgage forclosure industry..thats what i do im the guy that will put your home on the auction block if you can't pay for it for any reason. Poeple call me all the time all day long because they didn't read through their loan note before settlement or they were not informed during the settlement process as to what would happen if they didn't pay their mortgage. I don't get rude with them, i try to assist them because i have knowlege that could help them, imformation that they don't have. I don't want to see them get put out so i try to assist them by pointing them in the right direction over and over again no matter how often they call asking the same question.
My point? This is unchartered territory for some people, some of them don't even know how to use a forum...i wasn't born knowing how to write blog or use a forum. I had to ask questions sometimes over and over again. I had to research as well. But come on man these are 200.00 phones and for some folks thats a lot of money. If they mess up their phone ATT won't help them at all. Not to mention, unless you can get that samsung kies working on your computer your "might" be stuck with the stolen version of froyo 2.2 which as you can see is very very glitchy for some people.
Yes the sight says to mod at your own risk...but how can you dangle candy in someone face like that and expect them not to take the risk. Besides can you imagine what this country would be like if we had informed shoppers who did their homework before the shopped...this economy would be worse off then what it is, because people would think before they shopped or played around with their 200.00 smart phone taking a risk on damaging it for good.

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That is true...or people who tend to be arogant in their thinking and looking down on folks who are not able to figure it out should use another forum. Thats all im trying to say. Heck what is the forum here for if not to help people. Check this out...I work in the mortgage forclosure industry..thats what i do im the guy that will put your home on the auction block if you can't pay for it for any reason. Poeple call me all the time all day long because they didn't read through their loan note before settlement or they were not informed during the settlement process as to what would happen if they didn't pay their mortgage. I don't get rude with them, i try to assist them because i have knowlege that could help them, imformation that they don't have. I don't want to see them get put out so i try to assist them by pointing them in the right direction over and over again no matter how often they call asking the same question.
My point? This is unchartered territory for some people, some of them don't even know how to use a forum...i wasn't born knowing how to write blog or use a forum. I had to ask questions sometimes over and over again. I had to research as well. But come on man these are 200.00 phones and for some folks thats a lot of money. If they mess up their phone ATT won't help them at all. Not to mention, unless you can get that samsung kies working on your computer your "might" be stuck with the stolen version of froyo 2.2 which as you can see is very very glitchy for some people.
Yes the sight says to mod at your own risk...but how can you dangle candy in someone face like that and expect them not to take the risk. Besides can you imagine what this country would be like if we had informed shoppers who did their homework before the shopped...this economy would be worse off then what it is, because people would think before they shopped or played around with their 200.00 smart phone taking a risk on damaging it for good.
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If you want to spoon feed the entire world, that is your choice.
But defending people for their lack of judgment and research makes you look equally ignorant.
The point, at the beginning of this thread, is that if people just bothered TO TRY, they would find answers. Or just read the first post of a mod thread. I would think the words "this could brick your phone" would mean something. But no, most people are so used to bailouts and handouts that they don't stop to learn. I pointed the OP in the right direction - the information is there if he/she looked.
Oh, and if we had informed shoppers - we wouldn't have the mortgage mess we have now. People blame the banks, but it is idiot consumers that buy more then they can afford, get zero down loans, balloon loans, and hope their house goes up in value so they can refinance later.
The idea that more informed shoppers would make the economy worse is comical.

alphadog00 said:
If you want to spoon feed the entire world, that is your choice.
But defending people for their lack of judgment and research makes you look equally ignorant.
The point, at the beginning of this thread, is that if people just bothered TO TRY, they would find answers. Or just read the first post of a mod thread. I would think the words "this could brick your phone" would mean something. But no, most people are so used to bailouts and handouts that they don't stop to learn. I pointed the OP in the right direction - the information is there if he/she looked.
Oh, and if we had informed shoppers - we wouldn't have the mortgage mess we have now. People blame the banks, but it is idiot consumers that buy more then they can afford, get zero down loans, balloon loans, and hope their house goes up in value so they can refinance later.
The idea that more informed shoppers would make the economy worse is comical.
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Wow. So the OP didn't read enough before jumping. I was guilty of the sane thing. The forum takes some time to get used to. Not certain it warrants your rant. You clicked on the thread, why just so you can yell at someone?
OP look for Odin in development. If you are on beta 5 it is the only way to go back. I hope you have a PC and not a Mac
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Job interview Qs - need advice

Can all developers please share some information regarding job interviews?
I would like to know how to improve myself in a interview for development and how to improve my answers in order to make myself more appealing.
Here are some questions that i've been asked and would like to know how to improve the answers too:
1) When you need help with coding, what do you do? - what sites do you use? - How do you approach a solution?
2) When do you approach you senior developer?
3) How do you keep up to date ?
4) Give me an example of when you solved a difficult problem using PHP (or whataever language)
Basically many examples need to be given, not sure how to answer them.
There are other questions that I'll ask when they come to mind.

I need some input guys!! or at least guide me in the right direction please

mojo22 said:
1) When you need help with coding, what do you do? - what sites do you use? - How do you approach a solution?
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If I do go for a site, I first use Google and anything relevant to what I'm already trying to do to solve the problem. If Google doesn't help, or the answers are too vague and I need something more specific then there's no better help out there than StackOverflow. If you don't know it, get to know it
Also, see the next question.
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2) When do you approach you senior developer?
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In the above scenario, after you've tried for yourself for a while at least. A senior dev will get narked if you keep hassling them without at least trying to help yourself!
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Learn to prioritise. There's nothing really more to say about that as it's a personal experience thing. Make sure you keep notes of every task you need to do and mark it done when it's done, no matter how trivial it seems. You get better at it the more you do it.
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4) Give me an example of when you solved a difficult problem using PHP (or whataever language)
Basically many examples need to be given, not sure how to answer them.
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This is obviously a very personal question that no-one can answer for you. I'm not gonna tell you about any projects I've worked on and had to deal with problems because there's no point. If you give it as an example they'll only ask you to expand on it and you won't be able to. Besides, it's all well and good trying to impress, but don't out-and-out lie at an interview. Basically, they just want to know that you *can* solve problems. Tell them something where you learnt something that you were able to use again - it shows a willingness to learn, the ability to understand there are things you need to learn, and that you can grow from such a situation.
Other than that, be confident and remember that they've got you in for an interview because they're already interested. Also, it's not a 1-way street. They might be arseholes that you'd never work for. The interview is as much for you as it is for them.
Not sure if any of that has been any help, but they're my honest answers anyway.
Good luck, and let us know how you get on

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If I do go for a site, I first use Google and anything relevant to what I'm already trying to do to solve the problem. If Google doesn't help, or the answers are too vague and I need something more specific then there's no better help out there than StackOverflow. If you don't know it, get to know it
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This was indeed my exact answer! For some reason that is seen as a 'junior' solution believe it or not! I'm so pissed cause that is what people do...even seniors.
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Learn to prioritise. There's nothing really more to say about that as it's a personal experience thing. Make sure you keep notes of every task you need to do and mark it done when it's done, no matter how trivial it seems. You get better at it the more you do it.
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The question was more regarding, how do you keep up to date with software/tech basically. For example Wordpress has been updated. How did you know about it etc.
There is a new CMS system, how do you find out about it? etc.
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This is obviously a very personal question that no-one can answer for you. I'm not gonna tell you about any projects I've worked on and had to deal with
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I did try answer this question as you stated, it is hard though cause there was like 12 of them, giving constant examples was a PITA. I deal with it every day yet I found it awkward to sit there and tell a stranger all about it and that I am capable of handling it....
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Other than that, be confident and remember that they've got you in for an interview because they're already interested. Also, it's not a 1-way street. They might be arseholes that you'd never work for. The interview is as much for you as it is for them.
Not sure if any of that has been any help, but they're my honest answers anyway.
Good luck, and let us know how you get on
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Thanks a lot for your answer It DOES help! :good:
I will try to learn these pointer so that they are second nature. I need to boost my confidence too it's just that I try not to be arrogant and it actually become a downhill after that.
I need to improve my answers and don't know where to ask!

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The question was more regarding, how do you keep up to date with software/tech basically. For example Wordpress has been updated. How did you know about it etc.
There is a new CMS system, how do you find out about it? etc.
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In that case, tech blogs with RSS feeds. I use iGoogle as my home page both at home and at work and it has different feeds on there for different bits of tech (web development, windows development, mobile development etc..)
Also, I think confidence is best when it's natural. If you've not got it yet then just keep getting better at what you're doing and you'll eventually get it. I've been doing it a long time now so only get a slight flutter of nerves at interviews. It's normally just a case of answering questions honestly and asking a couple of good ones back and I get the job. There's a lot of people out there doing development work, but not that many that have stuck it out and got actually good at it. Stick at it and you'll become a valuable commodity!

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In that case, tech blogs with RSS feeds. I use iGoogle as my home page both at home and at work and it has different feeds on there for different bits of tech (web development, windows development, mobile development etc..)
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Thanks, what sort of feeds are you subscribed too?
I think I need to do something like this. Also, is it productive for developers to be on G+? Is there a benefit?
You know the answer to the question about solving a problem was to go to the original source, like wordpress has their own codex/reference site. Php has theirs, jQuery and all that. I use those site but didn't even consider stating it in the interview.
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Also, I think confidence is best when it's natural. If you've not got it yet then just keep getting better at what you're doing and you'll eventually get it. I've been doing it a long time now so only get a slight flutter of nerves at interviews. It's normally just a case of answering questions honestly and asking a couple of good ones back and I get the job. There's a lot of people out there doing development work, but not that many that have stuck it out and got actually good at it. Stick at it and you'll become a valuable commodity!
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I plan to stick at it, since its putting food in my plate but I need to get better since like yesterday! Its been my life since January, really focusing on it but now trying to get a balance in my life back again.
Do you have any advice or pointers that you'd like to share from your experience please?
Thanks for your time Archer

Here's a list of the feeds I have on the "development" tab of my home page...
MSDN .Net Blog
Android Developers Blog
Visual C# News
Windows Phone Developers Blog
jQuery Blog
Just have a search for blogs that are relevant to your interests and most of them will either work as an RSS feed direct, or will have an RSS or Atom link, both of which are perfect for iGoogle (or other RSS readers).
I do use G+, but not in a professional capacity at all. To be honest though, I don't use any social networks for anything professional. I probably would if I had my own business and needed to market myself, but I don't so it's just not relevant.
As for pointers, the only thing I can really say is that when someone presents you with a challenge, look at it as an opportunity to enhance your knowledge and skill-set. I've seen many programmers respond with "Yeah, you can't do it like that. We'll do it like this instead." That's bull. There's virtually nothing you can't make your computer or website do, with just some imagination and perseverance. And it goes without saying, the more you enjoy it the better you're likely to be at it.
So what field are you going into? You said you've been doing it since January, but I expect you've been doing it a lot longer than that. Is this your first time developing as a career?

Thanks for those links, thought i'd share some that i've found, might be use to somebody:
http://www.codecademy.com/
http://railsforzombies.org/
http://teamtreehouse.com/
http://www.netmagazine.com/
http://sass-lang.com/
http://haml.info/
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/
http://net.tutsplus.com/
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Just have a search for blogs that are relevant to your interests and most of them will either work as an RSS feed direct, or will have an RSS or Atom link, both of which are perfect for iGoogle (or other RSS readers).
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Do you know what news just made it out Yesterday!! LOL
iGoogle will be removed ! in about 14 months I think...how bad is that, just when I was about to sign up and set myself up ahhhh :silly:
I use to use it but not for productive reasons.
Will need to hook myself up in some other way now.

mojo22 said:
Thanks for those links, thought i'd share some that i've found, might be use to somebody:
http://www.codecademy.com/
http://railsforzombies.org/
http://teamtreehouse.com/
http://www.netmagazine.com/
http://sass-lang.com/
http://haml.info/
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/
http://net.tutsplus.com/
Do you know what news just made it out Yesterday!! LOL
iGoogle will be removed ! in about 14 months I think...how bad is that, just when I was about to sign up and set myself up ahhhh :silly:
I use to use it but not for productive reasons.
Will need to hook myself up in some other way now.
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I know - I saw it this morning when I opened my browser and immediately thought about this thread lol.
I'm gutted as it's the perfect home page for my needs. All their advice about getting weather widgets and looking on the Play Store for replacements has got nothing to do with having an RSS reader home page.
Thanks for the extra links - I'll have a look through them.