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Hi...
There are so many Anti theft applications on the Android market.
Each seem to have some pros and cons.
Ultimately it all boils down to choosing the best of the lot.
Which one would you recommend ?.
I am told that in most cases the safeguards or protection
offered by these apps can be bypassed or neutralized
by hard resetting the phone or formatting it.
Appreciate your comments.
Thanks
Avast anti theft.... It's free and supports root installation (hard reset surviving)
I got Cerberus. Has some nice features I really like - and I always use the alarm when I can't remember where I last layed it down to find it
Am using the full version of F–Secure because it came with the phone. Have only tested it but no complaints.
I think the abti–theft part is free from the Play Store.
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I use cerberus, flashed trough Rom Manager. Lots of nice functions.
you can hide it from the applist and the flashed version can withstand a factory reset, sd formatting, not only a full wipe if I'm not mistaken.
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markop90 said:
Avast anti theft.... It's free and supports root installation (hard reset surviving)
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But the big question is - Can the safeguards or security features be bypassed or neutralized
by the persons who steal the phone ?. Eg: hard reset, format the phone etc.
It has hard reset surviving but no anti-theft software can survive against a rom change
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Cerberus all the way for me. Low memory footprint, can do a lot of stuff remotely, and got it for free when they had a promo. But I would've bought it nevertheless.
the best way is to keep your phone from getting stolen. a witty guy will know how to wipe everything from the phone scotch free, so i dont see much use for security apps
androidlost
its not so beatiful, but you can do amazing things with this app, and its free.
http://www.androidlost.com/
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androidlost
its not so beatiful, but you can do amazing things with this app, and its free.
http://www.androidlost.com/
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I did a read of the website with forums FAQ and all.
Lots of success stories.
But there is no mention anywhere about the weak points.
Such as how total is the protection offered by the App.
Smartphone thieves are very technical. They know most of the techniques to disable security stuff..
Unless the person who stole it or found it just a naive user himself.
I am also using Cerberus. Its got a lot of useful features such as SIM Checker & the option to wipe internal memory & sd card just in-case. They even offer a week free trial, just give it a try and if you like you can buy. Cerberus anti theft
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androidlost
its not so beatiful, but you can do amazing things with this app, and its free.
http://www.androidlost.com/
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I use it too, but dont know if its full wipe protected. Never asked me for root access.
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I use it too, but dont know if its full wipe protected. Never asked me for root access.
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Actually avast does everything that Cerberus does, except for controlling via website, and it's free! It hides itself and also uses a costume name so anyone who doesn't know can't find it in the applist. Wich is really good. And If you decide to uninstall the antivirus part of the app you only reach the ui of the anti-theft by dialing a pin that you have chosen. (yes its seperated into 2 apps) It also survives wipe and and Cyanogenmod ROM flashes!
Also got some other features like firewall.
Cerberus>all
I use prey http://preyproject.com
Had my macbook stolen and managed to lock it down, wipe any sensitive info and track it / get pictures of the thief. Got it back and the theif got prosecuted. Can't ask for better than that!
After reading this thread I have gone for Cerberus.
I like this - "If you have rooted your device you can integrate Cerberus into your ROM and get two additional features: complete uninstall protection (Cerberus will even survive a wipe/factory reset) and GPS auto-enabling even on Android 2.3.3 and later"
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This tool will allow you to remove the Bloatware from your tab S, it works if your rooted or not. I have used this tool on my Verizon note 4 and my Verizon tab S without problem. THIS IS NOT MY WORK! the developer is "gatesjunior" here on XDA, please thank him if you use it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
What about knix? Is it safe?
No it does not trip knox, since it is only Disabling the app not removing it. You can also use it to disable updates and knox itself.
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No it does not trip knox, since it is only Disabling the app not removing it. You can also use it to disable updates and knox itself.
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Oh it is disabling apps? So it isn't debloating since no apps are being removed from the device. we can freeze/disable apps through the app manager...
You cannot disable some apps. Using the app. Manager, such as Samsung apps. And some verizon apps. You cannot disabled Knox using the app. Manager. You can with this tool, that is why we are so lucky to have devs. Like gatesjunior.
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You cannot disable some apps. Using the app. Manager, such as Samsung apps. And some verizon apps. You cannot disabled Knox using the app. Manager. You can with this tool, that is why we are so lucky to have devs. Like gatesjunior.
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Oh that's good to know, thanks for sharing it mate.
Would be awesome to know what each app does and if it's safe to freeze. There are so many apk's that show up on the list.
I know many are safe to freeze, but it might hinder some other process.
Just do what I did, I froze the same ones that I froze on my note 4, then the ones that were in question I just disabled one at a time using my tablet for a while to make sure nothing was screwy. Like I said you can always do a factory reset to set everything back to the defaults in case you Bork it, it's pretty much foolproof. That being said please no one prove me wrong! Lol!
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Also you can always Google processes to see what they do
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Would be awesome to know what each app does and if it's safe to freeze. There are so many apk's that show up on the list.
I know many are safe to freeze, but it might hinder some other process.
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For your question you have this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/list-bloated-apps-to-uninstall-sm-t700-t2861180
I love this program
I had to unroot my device because some apps did not run. Now, with the use of debloater (and the above link) I can do what I basicly did with Titanium BU.
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This tool will allow you to remove the Bloatware from your tab S, it works if your rooted or not. I have used this tool on my Verizon note 4 and my Verizon tab S without problem. THIS IS NOT MY WORK! the developer is "gatesjunior" here on XDA, please thank him if you use it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
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Will it give me the ability to also REMOVE the apps without root?
Thanks!
Some apps can't be removed without root, but you can freeze them so that they cannot use system resources.
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Will disabling apps help with battery life? I don't have much problem with lag but I would like to extend batter life
In theory, it should. what I mean is disabling an app that you never used will do nothing for battery, but if you disable say, a Samsung app such as Knox or a Samsung app updater, keeping it from using system resources you should see improvement . The problem with comparing battery stats is you would have to use your tablet in the same area using the same apps for the same amount of time every day. That's why you see some user's of custom Roms saying battery life sucks while others say that it's great, apple's to apple's and so on .
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Ok I just wanted to say that this tool is really worth it if you don't want to root (lost of warranty). It is possible to disable a lot of crap, hence more free RAM. I froze more than 100 so called apps and my RAM is around 1.2GB with 0 active applications. I also froze all the apps related to knox and I do feel the tablet is faster. It did not trip Knox.
Actually I wonder if it might be a way to bypass Knox to root, install a custom recovery and so on... If someone wants to root his tablet anyway (no care about the warranty), it would be great to try to freeze Knox first to see if it works. I'm sure it would help the community a lot !
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Ok I just wanted to say that this tool is really worth it if you don't want to root (lost of warranty). It is possible to disable a lot of crap, hence more free RAM. I froze more than 100 so called apps and my RAM is around 1.2GB with 0 active applications. I also froze all the apps related to knox and I do feel the tablet is faster. It did not trip Knox.
Actually I wonder if it might be a way to bypass Knox to root, install a custom recovery and so on... If someone wants to root his tablet anyway (no care about the warranty), it would be great to try to freeze Knox first to see if it works. I'm sure it would help the community a lot !
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So far to the best of my knowledge reading about Knox on other devices, you cannot root with blowing the efuse (Knox). It's irreversible once blown.
Hi ! Did anyone try this tool with the new update 5.0.2 ? My tablet runs very smoothly when disabling all that bloatware and I don't want to be stuck on Lollipop with that crap.
OK so I did the test and it doesn't work anymore with lollipop. But the developer is working on an update
droid fetish said:
This tool will allow you to remove the Bloatware from your tab S, it works if your rooted or not. I have used this tool on my Verizon note 4 and my Verizon tab S without problem. THIS IS NOT MY WORK! the developer is "gatesjunior" here on XDA, please thank him if you use it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
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Ok, help it dont work for me?
Tab S 8.4, T707A, 4.4.2, AT&T LTE,
Loaded driver, V1.5.45, Win 7, plug it in and I can access the Tab internal and external drives,
When I launch debloater, the Tab will not connect, any ideas?
I tried launching with Tab S plugged in USB, and launch app then plug in Tab
Did you enable USB debugging in developers options (after tapping 7 times on build number in "about device")
I have a questions for optimization android without root. I use an application Clean Master. Do you use this application ? Do you use from the its functions ? What you have settings its application ?
I find these apps to be pointless. In fact, i never clear the recent apps or cache. I let android manage it for me. And believe me, your phone will fly. There's hardly any impact on battery life
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How
Sadman Khan said:
I find these apps to be pointless. In fact, i never clear the recent apps or cache. I let android manage it for me. And believe me, your phone will fly. There's hardly any impact on battery life
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So how care to optimization smartphone for android ?
michalq000 said:
So how care to optimization smartphone for android ?
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I don't do anything. I don't use any app or whatever. I just use my phone as it is
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Let Android care about its own optimization. It does the job pretty darn well without any need for any apps that mostly do more harm than good.
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So applications for optimization are unnecessary. So how myself take care of the job for android ?
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So applications for optimization are unnecessary. So how myself take care of the job for android ?
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Go to Settings>Storage>Wait for it to Compute>Clear Cache.
Do this once a week. I do it on every saturday or when I feel my phone is laggy.
Off-topic advice:
Do not buy a phone like the Xperia Z3 Compact running on an outdated Snapdragon 801 which is not 64Bit. If possible, get a better phone running Snapdragon 805 or 808 or 810 or Samsung phones like the S6/S6 Edge.
Why? Is there a need for allocation for more than 4gigs of Ram?
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Why? Is there a need for allocation for more than 4gigs of Ram?
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I never mentioned about the "RAM". If you have no clue on what "64Bit" implies, we have nothing more to discuss.
https://www.androidpit.com/six-reasons-to-buy-a-64-bit-processor-phone-in-2015
http://m.indiatoday.in/technology/story/what-is-64-bit-processor-computer-processors/1/417150.html
A reason is:
6. You won’t really have a choice
And there is A LOT of SHOULD word in your texts. Should more that often doesn't mean could in real world.
What is this? Down syndrome type of discussion?
troublecro said:
A reason is:
6. You won’t really have a choice
And there is A LOT of SHOULD word in your texts. Should more that often doesn't mean could in real world.
What is this? Down syndrome type of discussion?
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What are you talking about now? Don't you know that, you must reply with a quote when talking to someone on a thread?
I'm done discussing here. Good luck with your 32Bit devices and computers.
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When I bought note 5 I saw that there is implemented security software in smart manager. I don't know if it's good enough and does works in the background. I already have avg Antivirus pro bought from playstore when I used my previous phone, so my question is can I install avg alongside the security app in smart manager or no,because I relate to Windows problem with 2 Antivirus software working together are causing problems and I don't know if that's the case in Android too.
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These anti-virus apps really have minimal use. Yea, they'll back up your data and what not but they're not the equivalent to what anti-virus software is on the computer. I have never used one on any of my devices. Just be careful of what apk's you download that aren't from the market.
I download apk's only from playstore and from Samsung store. I don't know much how Antivirus apps for Android works but in avg app that I have there is something that protect me while I am surfing the Internet, so I don't know what to do and does it have some real protection or is just gimmick.
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darko.baruh said:
I download apk's only from playstore and from Samsung store. I don't know much how Antivirus apps for Android works but in avg app that I have there is something that protect me while I am surfing the Internet, so I don't know what to do and does it have some real protection or is just gimmick.
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hi,
Firstly, my attitude was also that i did not care /worry about Antivirus on my Android phone.
About 2 year's ago i started realizing and understanding the security and
increase in malware on Android. I have been using Nortons on my laptop, for many years
Further, i was happy, overall with product and always renewing 5 times x any computer /device subscription.
As i had spare subscription left, i included my Android device.
Since then i had used my Antivirus 360 subscription (Nortons) on my phone.
I must admit my attitude changed.
It helped me quite a few times when
surfing the web (malicious attacks?, phishing, bad ratings etc)
It also gves me a risk rating on each app in Play store etc( adverts, battery drainer etc) before i install. Even when sometimes sideloading it scans relevant app before installation. Also can block calls and Sms (same as stock system )
So i got my own Antivirus running on my Note5 with the included system
one, not enabled at all (only one Antivirus.. and i am no refering to Knox etc)
Battery wise, no excessive battery drainage or app been intrusive.
I have change my mind about Antivirus on Android and can only say with increased security risks, i do
need " something "
It's your choice
good luck
Antivirus for android are more like bloatwares because android is linux based OS so no risks of viruses. Only thing you should care for is your data.
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So you say that you have Norton and note's 5 Antivirus on your system and both working without problems?
P. S. Sorry if I didn't understand correctly, my English is not so good.
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darko.baruh said:
So you say that you have Norton and note's 5 Antivirus on your system and both working without problems?
P. S. Sorry if I didn't understand correctly, my English is not so good.
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hi,
Only Norton antivirus ,system one is disabled .You can install Antivirus (of your choice ? ) and it will work fine. Just remember that if you activated the system Antivirus (not Knox).. i recommend you disable system one... if enabled. Take a look at screenshots.. it should explain a lot.. remember it just not all about virus etc. There is a lot more to it...malware web protection etc... etc The screenshots should also tell you this...!
Good luck
Thank you
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Can you please tell me the name of the security app so I can deactivate it? I looked for it and didn't manage to find it.
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Can you please tell me the name of the security app so I can deactivate it? I looked for it and didn't manage to find it.
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hi,
Look at my last screenshot (Smart manager app) , what does your Smart manager say, deactivated or activated ..?
If it says deactivated (like my screenshot) , then don't worry, just install you Antivirus of choice.
Good luck
It's already activated and there isn't a button to deactivate. And in the app manager under all applications I can't find it. ?
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It's already activated and there isn't a button to deactivate. And in the app manager under all applications I can't find it. ?
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hi, Take a look at Phone /Settings /Application Manager , scroll down and try and find it and disable it... i think it should be Mc Afee security or something, not sure...?
Good luck
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hi, Further if you can't find it, just install you Antivirus of choice,
If there is a conflict it should show up. I personally don't think it should give errors. if it does just uninstall your new installed Antivirus. Then you have to most probably Google around to see where its location is on device.
I presume you are stock Rom? not rooted and with Knox not tripped?
I'm stock, not rooted and Knox is not activated. I didn't find the McAfee app, or something Antivirus in application manager. But as you suggest I'll install my avg pro and give it a try. Thank you again.
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I'm stock, not rooted and Knox is not activated. I didn't find the McAfee app, or something Antivirus in application manager. But as you suggest I'll install my avg pro and give it a try. Thank you again.
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hi,
yes I agree, i cannot really see it causing issues. I had on my laptop at one stage also 2 x different Antivirus installed and activated. Had no issues at all. Also i am guessing it could be Mc affee, as i vaguely read something to that effect.. but I think I am wrong!
Maybe its just part of Smart manager functions checking for malware.
I would not really "worry" about any issues. or conflicts.
As you stated, jut install AVG pro and if any issues, post in this thread,
I am sure we'll sort it out.!
Good luck.
Anti virus on an android is not worth the resources or battery time. If you only download from the market. Don't go to shady sites. Or install funny looking apks. You will not get a virus.
LiL_Assassin said:
Anti virus on an android is not worth the resources or battery time. If you only download from the market. Don't go to shady sites. Or install funny looking apks. You will not get a virus.
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hi ,
i also had similar attitude as you at one stage ,but change it ..
In my case i installed Nortons 360 Premier for a reason .
Its does more than just what you stated above .( take a look at my screenshots )
I don't ( your words )..."Don't go to shady sites. Or install funny looking apks. "
All my apks is paid apps from Google Play store or Amazon .!!!
or some are just Beta apks, i subscribed /test (for a dev. re an app )
But i do use the internet and read or Google ,( eg if want want to know more about an issue )
I do click on links to follow relevant info i was Googling or reading .......etc etc .
Further eg . 'Stagefright " was spread by MMS ....not, going to your words again ....... "Don't go to shady sites. Or install funny looking apks. "
Bottom line ...
i like to have something called " peace of mind "
if somebody wants to install Antivirus on his phone.....?
i do understand he wants "peace of mind "!!!!
If you happy with your setup /device and don't use an Antivirus.. ...good ,is your choice ..!!
Today' s Antivirus software does much more than just look for a "virus " !
good luck
Is there a list yet of the things safe to disable? I stopped obvious things.
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Can you share how you disable? Tks much
Tiongkia said:
Can you share how you disable? Tks much
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He's talking about using the app Package Disabler Pro to disable system apps.
Yeah adhell3 it's under the themes and apps section
EVOme said:
Is there a list yet of the things safe to disable? I stopped obvious things.
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does package disabler work at all? i have to rebuy it, guess the original one was taken down. trying to see if it works before i spend another $4
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does package disabler work at all? i have to rebuy it, guess the original one was taken down. trying to see if it works before i spend another $4
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It did for the few things I disabled.
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It did for the few things I disabled.
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perfect, thank you. i just wanted to disable the keyboard and internet browser
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elmklmsamsung.batteryaddon&hl=de_CH
I just stop dtignite, carrier stuff and Bixby related stuff.
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The dev claims samsung takes it down but it seems like the dev does this every samsung launch. I've purchased this app 4 times already. I froze all att, smart switch, smart things, and any games etc
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The dev claims samsung takes it down but it seems like the dev does this every samsung launch. I've purchased this app 4 times already. I froze all att, smart switch, smart things, and any games etc
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I'm not giving that leach any more of my money. He thinks people will buy it over and over and Google let's him get by with it.
The reality is that every phone is slightly different. The package disabler works extremely well to remove bloat and freeze everything that you don't want to deal with but preserve Knox and other security things. It's well worth the money in my opinion. Most people pay more money then that app just to drink a cup of coffee once.
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The reality is that every phone is slightly different. The package disabler works extremely well to remove bloat and freeze everything that you don't want to deal with but preserve Knox and other security things. It's well worth the money in my opinion. Most people pay more money then that app just to drink a cup of coffee once.
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It's the principle and I don't pay for the same cup of coffee over and over. Besides the app wouldn't trip Knox if you disabled every app on the phone. It may brick but not trip Knox. There are minimal changes to the app, and occasionally none at all. Taking an app down and then bringing it back, making it a new buy, is unethitical and unnecessary.
Anyone with a list yet? I'll try to post mine
Just download ADB bootloader and delete the apps. I got package disabler to tell me the names of the apps and deleted them ALL one by one i have 0 bloatware from At&T and delete a few from Samsung Also including that annoying GoT games.
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Just download ADB bootloader and delete the apps. I got package disabler to tell me the names of the apps and deleted them ALL one by one i have 0 bloatware from At&T and delete a few from Samsung Also including that annoying GoT games.
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Any YouTube tutorial on this? Thanks.
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Any YouTube tutorial on this? Thanks.
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This are the two links i followed.
https://beebom.com/how-to-install-adb-windows-mac/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/beebom.com/remove-bloatware-android-no-root/amp/
Worked perfect for me hope it helped.
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This are the two links i followed.
https://beebom.com/how-to-install-adb-windows-mac/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/beebom.com/remove-bloatware-android-no-root/amp/
Worked perfect for me hope it helped.
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Thanks ?
The re-buying leaves a sour taste but it is still preferable to the ADB method.
Shame the XML export thing does not work still!
Tel864 said:
It's the principle and I don't pay for the same cup of coffee over and over. Besides the app wouldn't trip Knox if you disabled every app on the phone. It may brick but not trip Knox. There are minimal changes to the app, and occasionally none at all. Taking an app down and then bringing it back, making it a new buy, is unethitical and unnecessary.
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So you bring your cup back to starbucks and they give you free refills?
Also he doesn't take the app down - Google does.