I have just started using the DeX as my daily driver. However the problem that I'm facing is when connecting my NTFS 2TB Portable HDD.
My DeX setup is connecting to 24" monitor using this UGREEN dongle, I use a wired Logitech Keyboard and MX Anywhere Mouse.
I have installed this app to help with NTFS. And when I connect the HDD directly to the phone via the OTG dongle it works fine, take time to show in the app but it does. But when I connect it to the UGREEN dongle, the app opens up and notifies me and asks for permission, the minute I click on allow, my monitor will go black and the HDD will make a clicking sound. I have to disconnect the HDD and the dongle, reconnect the dongle to make DeX work again.
I thought maybe my third party dongle didn't have enough juice to support the 2TB HDD so I went to my local Samsung store and tried on their DeX Station, same thing only difference was that the screen did not go black but the HDD made the clicking noise. The sales rep at the Samsung store told me that DeX only supports 512GB because their phone supports max of 512gb SD card.
What am I doing wrong? Or is 2TB just too much?
UserNameComesHere said:
The sales rep at the Samsung store told me that DeX only supports 512GB because their phone supports max of 512gb SD card.
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lol that dosent make sense to me.
what does is probably the power draw from the usb ports might be too much. let me test with different adapters i have that provide power to the HDD.
also the file system might be the issue even if you have the correct libs. try formating to extfat.
heres the proof that the phone can do at least 2tb.
i used a 3.5 regular hdd and sata to usb 3 powered adapter plugged into a usb c multireader adapter that was also powered externally.
i bought and installed paragon software because my 1tb drive appeared right away but not my 2tb. first was gpt extfat and the other gpt ntfs .
i have the latest dex station with me also and can test but i expect it to work since it did on a crappy usb c multi reader.
and here is the proof than an official dex station can also read it.
i have 8 tb and 16tb drives but im lazy. so 2 tb will have to do.
bober10113 said:
and here is the proof than an official dex station can also read it.
i have 8 tb and 16tb drives but im lazy. so 2 tb will have to do.
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Yes but all those are powered HDDs. For me a powered 3tb and 5tb works perfectly well.
The issue is with the 2tb. Like I said when I connect it to my phone via the OTG adapter it works fine but not with the dongle.
I thought it was an issue with my dongle since it's not powered. So I headed to the Samsung store and tried on their Dex Station but it didn't work. Which is strange because the Dex Station is powered.
bober10113 said:
also the file system might be the issue even if you have the correct libs. try formating to extfat.
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I have a 500gb portable HDD as well which also didn't work. I formatted it to exFAT. What are the chances that the same drive will work on exFAT?
Wouldn't it still require the same amount of power?
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what does is probably the power draw from the usb ports might be too much.
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so then my original comment still rings true.
maybe you can find a Y cable that has 2 x usb male plugs to draw more power. you can try plugging a phone charger to one of them.
Toshiba 4TB is working on my end.
But I formatted to ext4 ...
hinnn said:
Toshiba 4TB is working on my end.
But I formatted to ext4 ...
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Is it powered or portable?
UserNameComesHere said:
Is it powered or portable?
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Portable, just plug to phone via samsung OTG connector
not sure what connector is on your ext hdd but i was suggesting something like this:
https://www.amazon.ca/Exinoz-Ultra-Fast-USB-Cable/dp/B01M1D96NW
hinnn said:
Portable, just plug to phone via samsung OTG connector
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Yes, if you connect it to the phone it works....it, however, doesn't work on DeX...
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Forgive me if a stupid question but the new rage going on is the new USB support for our NCs, what exactly can I do with that functionality now? Examples would be nice. Is it just simple stuff like keyboards, etc?
All of this is unconfirmed, but what I've seen mentioned includes webcams and game controllers in addition to keyboards/mice.
mass storage devices will work as well if you have an external power source
Another stupid question from my side:
How WILL this USB connectivity work? Meaning we connect any USB enabled device to the micro-USB port of the nook from which the charger connects?
That would be cool since that would enable USB keyboards to work with the nook..
obsidianblackhawk said:
mass storage devices will work as well if you have an external power source
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And many USB thumb drives work without any external power at all. Not all of them, but an older 2GB of mine works perfectly (especially with the vold file modified so that mass storage devices auto mount)
Divine_Madcat said:
And many USB thumb drives work without any external power at all. Not all of them, but an older 2GB of mine works perfectly (especially with the vold file modified so that mass storage devices auto mount)
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Would you mind sharing your vold line? Does it work regardless of the sdx partition actually mounted? (In other word, is it wildcarded for any type of flash, or just for your particular drive)
skwalas said:
Would you mind sharing your vold line? Does it work regardless of the sdx partition actually mounted? (In other word, is it wildcarded for any type of flash, or just for your particular drive)
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This is all i used (the example line): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14548442&postcount=159
all of my micro usb cards work with a reader.
perhaps they need lesser power to run
So basically, I can plug up a webcam and video chat with a market app? Or am I being too wishful?
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
flu13 said:
All of this is unconfirmed, but what I've seen mentioned includes webcams and game controllers in addition to keyboards/mice.
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Is there a Keyboard/Mouse that will work with the Nook that anyone is using today? Of course, I don't understand how a mouse would work because there is no pointer/cursor in Android is there?
I'd love to be able to have a mouse/keyboard and not have to lug my laptop around on business trips but just use the Nook instead. May be wishful thinking I suppose.
As soon as you connect a mouse, a pointer appears.
flu13 said:
As soon as you connect a mouse, a pointer appears.
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Cool, I'll have to monkey with this I suppose. Sounds promising.
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As soon as you connect a mouse, a pointer appears.
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Cool, thanks. I have a few micro USB cables and a couple of female to female adapters on the way so I can hook a USB mouse and keyboard up to the cables.
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As soon as you connect a mouse, a pointer appears.
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Did you need a powered USB hub for this, or does the nook power the mouse?
Requia said:
Did you need a powered USB hub for this, or does the nook power the mouse?
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Depends on the mouse. If the mouse can run on 100mA, it will work with no hub (personally tested with a Logitech wireless).
Just wondering if anyone knows whether they've gotten the usb headphones with mic to work. I've been following that usb thread in development pretty closely (although I can't post there; not enough general posts, so I guess I'll have to start spamming), and it appears as though they are close, but I haven't seen a post definitely stating that it works. Seems as though they were getting some noise through the mic, but the rate was off. Too fast or too slow or something. Maybe someone knows?
Which Female to Female adapter to get?
I found some Female to Female adapters on Amazon, but they had mixed reviews. If you are using one successfully , I would appreciate more information about where to get it.
-Mo
Moritzio said:
I found some Female to Female adapters on Amazon, but they had mixed reviews. If you are using one successfully , I would appreciate more information about where to get it.
-Mo
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Same here. I bought one from ebay for $1.98 but what they sent did not match the description or picture so I killed the charge with AmEx.
As for webcam support, not working as far as I have been able to test. I can get the nook to recognize the cam but the apps do not see it. Have tried yahoo msgr,tango, ooVoo,fring, ect...
As for uses, mouse,keyboard,sd card reader,direct connection to DSLR's for photo transfer, flash drives.
As for flash drives, I have about 20 here from various mfr and only 1 will worrk without a powered hub but using a powered hub, everything works.
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Can I connect my 1TB Western Digital Ext HDD (USB powered) to my Note (GT-N7000, Stock 4.0.4 with Hydracore 5.4 Std)
I tried formatting one partition to FAT32 as well, but no luck..is it bcz of lack of power to the HDD to run?
Of course you can connect. Only your external hard drive in addition to using the USB connection must have a second source of electricity. USB connector on the phone is too inefficient.
Gregs5 said:
Of course you can connect. Only your external hard drive in addition to using the USB connection must have a second source of electricity. USB connector on the phone is too inefficient.
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Ok..but how can I do that? My Ext HDD is USB powered..is there any way I can provide the HDD with power supply, using some kind of cables/adapters or something?
If your external drive has no additional power outlet, then connect it to your phone is not possible. Attempts to various modifications may damage the phone.
You need a Y split USB cable, something similar to this:
http://compare.ebay.com.au/like/280750493818?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes
NOTE: that was just first USB cable I found using google, I'm not suggesting/related to that ebay seller in any way! Do your own research, you may be able to buy locally for cheaper.
cheddarchi said:
You need a Y split USB cable, something similar to this:
http://compare.ebay.com.au/like/280750493818?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes
NOTE: that was just first USB cable I found using google, I'm not suggesting/related to that ebay seller in any way! Do your own research, you may be able to buy locally for cheaper.
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Hmmm...so, it cannot be used as "portable" as a pendrive..as it needs external power (PC/Laptop OR some external battery)..so better option would be 64GB or higher pendrive (if needed desperately)
I recently got a 1 terabyte usb 3 external hard drive. I want to use it directly on my note2 via otg to backup my files and free up space on my device and microsd while I am away from my pc. I noticed my battery gets discharged really fast from powering up the drive. I was wondering how I could provide an external power to the drive or the note 2 itself while the drive is connected to the note2 via otg. Thanks guys.
Zerolemom battery. Other than a bigger battery I dont know of a different way.
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I've had a couple if external hard drives that have two usb connectors. I read somewhere that once the drive starts and spins up, you really only need one connection.
If thats the case, and you do have a two usb connection cable for that drive, you could maybe connect one to another power source (computer usb, wall adapter, etc).
Don't know if any of that will actually work, but the theory sounds good in my head.
Sent from my Mental 'Note' II.
I have an external hard drive also but my Note 2 doesn't recognize it as a memory drive. It's powered by an ac adaptor so I dont see why it won't establish a connection.
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I have an external hard drive also but my Note 2 doesn't recognize it as a memory drive. It's powered by an ac adaptor so I dont see why it won't establish a connection.
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I also had that problem but I used paragon ntfs&hfs+ app and my phone recognized my external hd.
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I've had a couple if external hard drives that have two usb connectors. I read somewhere that once the drive starts and spins up, you really only need one connection.
If thats the case, and you do have a two usb connection cable for that drive, you could maybe connect one to another power source (computer usb, wall adapter, etc).
Don't know if any of that will actually work, but the theory sounds good in my head.
Sent from my Mental 'Note' II.
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Too bad my seagate backup plus only has 1 usb connection.
siakgayyem said:
I also had that problem but I used paragon ntfs&hfs+ app and my phone recognized my external hd.
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Thanks I'll try it tomorrow.
You can get a USB hub, and do some modification on it.
When I was using my nexus s, I do this:
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-advanced-usb-otg-nexus-4
Just Solider + & - input in your usb hub (input), power your external hard drive with your power bank... So it won't suck your battery
128Gig
siakgayyem said:
I recently got a 1 terabyte usb 3 external hard drive. I want to use it directly on my note2 via otg to backup my files and free up space on my device and microsd while I am away from my pc. I noticed my battery gets discharged really fast from powering up the drive. I was wondering how I could provide an external power to the drive or the note 2 itself while the drive is connected to the note2 via otg. Thanks guys.
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I have mounted a 128Gig USB drive. No Problems! I will try to mount my 2Tb drive to my note via a Volcano external drive unit.
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Same issue for me. It says blank memory device. I have a thermaltake 2 bay drive that is powered. I guess that it has to supply its own buss voltage. So much for the 2TB drive mounting.
Or you can get a powered USB Hub. So that the hub powers the HD and not your phone.
Something like this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005P2BY5I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1378183838&sr=8-1&pi=SL75
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Also pnce you get it powered up you might need to format it. I am unsure if this phone can read ntsf. Everything of mine is formatted to fat32 and exfat. So if you get it powered and it shows no memory or something it might be the format.
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Or you can get a powered USB Hub. So that the hub powers the HD and not your phone.
Something like this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005P2BY5I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1378183838&sr=8-1&pi=SL75
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::This::
I do it all the time at work. A small usb hub that plugs into the wall for power will keep your phone from draining so fast.
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DjRenigade said:
Same issue for me. It says blank memory device. I have a thermaltake 2 bay drive that is powered. I guess that it has to supply its own buss voltage. So much for the 2TB drive mounting.
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I solved this issue by using Paragon exfat ntfs hfs from playstore.
The solution that comes to my mind is to just connect both devices to a computer, laptop, or netbook, open 2 windows and drag n drop.
But that powered hub does look like something fun to play with.
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Hello .... I'm curious if this tablet can be open up and have the memory removed, only to upgrade it to a higher level, is it possible ? Oh yeah and I know need it to be with one usb end and not a very long cable . Thanks
Dude905 said:
Hello .... I'm curious if this tablet can be open up and have the memory removed, only to upgrade it to a higher level, is it possible ? Thanks
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It's probably possible, but it wouldn't work.
Take a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqY2EXTHhE
Do some reading here:
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/331349-2gb-ram-upgrade-touchpad-attempt.html
In my opinion everything is possible with the right "CODE" and that is attached to a human memory with very smart neurons!
From what I saw there I'm assuming that the memory hard drive or card GB is internal to the board ? I want to replace the 32GB with a 64 GB card or whatever these HP tablets have . I don't want to get into un-soldering and soldering though .... Thanks
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From what I saw there I'm assuming that the memory hard drive or card GB is internal to the board ? I want to replace the 32GB with a 64 GB card or whatever these HP tablets have . I don't want to get into un-soldering and soldering though .... Thanks
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Everything is integrated. If you want to expand storage you can use an OTG Micro USB HUB an attached a USB 64GB flash drive, it will be bulky but works!
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
Everything is integrated. If you want to expand storage you can use an OTG Micro USB HUB an attached a USB 64GB flash drive, it will be bulky but works!
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That would work ? that would be great if it can . I would like to place movies onto the usb flash drive and play off it, So you saying it can work ? Thanks
Of course it works, you can play movies directly from the USB flash drive. You will need to supply power to the USB drive, connected by wire or using a Power Bank.
https://www.amazon.com/Adaptor-Powered-Charging-Charger-Connector/dp/B00LTHBCNM/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1486006080&sr=8-9&keywords=OTG+micro+usb+hub
If you want to make it portable:
https://www.amazon.com/2600mAh-Portable-External-Battery-Charger/dp/B01N5O3OX3/ref=sr_1_10?
Hello .... I'm curious if this tablet can be open up and have the memory removed, only to upgrade it to a higher level, is it possible ? Oh yeah and I only need it to be with one usb end and not a very long cable . Thanks
Is a Micro USB Port, is the same as your charger. The one that you connect to your Tablet. Search and do some reading on how it works, is very simple but you have to understand how all comes together, there is information on this site also.
Once you have Android install on your tablet, it works the same as others Android or Tablet Devices.
I finally got a OTG Micro USB straight cable, usb on one end and micro on the other, try it out and nothing happens, is there a setting with the tablet that needs to be turn on or off ? thanks
What version of Android are you using? or the type or ROM?
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What version of Android are you using? or the type or ROM?
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Its ......Kitkat .... Android 5.1.1 version and cm-11-20161219-NIGHTLY-MLQ-tenderloin .... This is very stable ... Thanks
The ROM that you are using is from the Developer Milaq.
I installed the latest Nightly dated December 26 of 2016, of the ROM you are using.
https://milaq.net/downloads/tenderloin/cm-11.0/
After a fresh installed I connected the OTG Micro USB HUB, then connected the HP Touchpad cord charger to the OTG and finally the USB flash drive ( SanDisk Cruzer Glide 16GB). You will noticed that the USB flash indication light starts flashing and a notification on the Left top side on Android tells you ( USB Storage in USE ). Then you go to the File Manager and you will see USB Storage, when you touch it you will see all the files on the USB flash drive and you can play your movies directly from there at the same speed as if were on the internal storage. When you are done, go to setting and storage and eject the USB Flash drive. Is very simple!
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The ROM that you are using is from the Developer Milaq.
I installed the latest Nightly dated December 26 of 2016, of the ROM you are using.
https://milaq.net/downloads/tenderloin/cm-11.0/
After a fresh installed I connected the OTG Micro USB HUB, then connected the HP Touchpad cord charger to the OTG and finally the USB flash drive ( SanDisk Cruzer Glide 16GB). You will noticed that the USB flash indication light starts flashing and a notification on the Left top side on Android tells you ( USB Storage in USE ). Then you go to the File Manager and you will see USB Storage, when you touch it you will see all the files on the USB flash drive and you can play your movies directly from there at the same speed as if were on the internal storage. When you are done, go to setting and storage and eject the USB Flash drive. Is very simple!
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I don't see nothing since nothing happens once I connect it, though if I use the cable to connect to my computer I am able to see the tablet internal drive, but not to a flash drive from tablet to flash . This is why I was asking what's exact cable type for this tablet port . I'm thinking it isn't the correct one . There so many different sizes out there. Thanks for your suggestion, much appreciated
I sent you the link to Amazon of the OTG.
Did you take the time to learn what OTG is?
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I sent you the link to Amazon of the OTG.
Did you take the time to learn what OTG is?
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Yes, I did view it but the type that goes into the tablet isn't listed . I bought one already that I assume is the correct size but with these micro usb connectors there is many different types, do you understand what I'm trying to say . Pic below is what I'm using
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Yes, I did view it but the type that goes into the tablet isn't listed . I bought one already that I assume is the correct size but with these micro usb connectors there is many different types, do you understand what I'm trying to say . Pic below is what I'm using
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All the information is on this web site:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582771
And for the second time this is the OTG cable that I have, which I posted the link : https://www.amazon.com/Adaptor-Powered-Charging-Charger-Connector/dp/B00LTHBCNM/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&qid=1486568545&sr=8-31&keywords=micro+usb+otg If you look at the specification of how it works it tells you is a "Micro Usb HUB Adaptor with Power Powered"
The HP touchpad or old devices do not offer power to the micro usb port, you need a Y adapter one to supply power to the USB flash drive and the other one for data.
That is why I said, do some research to understand the connection, which it clearly shows on the Amazon product.
Oh ok now I got you it also needs power to make it work, the tablet alone isn't good enough . See, I was hoping just a simple connector going into the tablet Micro and have on the other end usb female connector were by I could plug in a flash stick without power needed . Thanks for all your help
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Oh ok now I got you it also needs power to make it work, the tablet alone isn't good enough . See, I was hoping just a simple connector going into the tablet Micro and have on the other end usb female connector were by I could plug in a flash stick without power needed . Thanks for all your help
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That will work with devices that allow power out from the charging port. The work around for old devices is the Y connector, with the connector I posted you can use a USB Keyboard, a USB mouse and a USB flash drive all at once, turning a tablet into a regular desktop PC. Like I posted your ROM will work and you can play movies directly from the USB drive with no loss in performance, with only your basic ROM nothing else is need it.
You are very welcome and have fun!
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That will work with devices that allow power out from the charging port. The work around for old devices is the Y connector, with the connector I posted you can use a USB Keyboard, a USB mouse and a USB flash drive all at once, turning a tablet into a regular desktop PC. Like I posted your ROM will work and you can play movies directly from the USB drive with no loss in performance, with only your basic ROM nothing else is need it.
You are very welcome and have fun!
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Yeah, those devises sound really good . I might just get one for that fact alone .... Though, it isn't really what I needed
Dear XDA peeps,
You guys helped me in the past when I wanted to connect this portable HD with my S7 Edge. Thanks!
Now I have a different issue.
On the S7 edge, it worked flawlessly, as long as it was formatted as FAT32 or exFAT. (NTFS worked if the phone was rooted)
On the Note8, the HD wont even power. I'm wondering if there's some secret config that could fix that...
Why would the Note8 lack the capability to power the HD when the S7 could do it.. odd.
For reference, this is the model of the HD: https://www.seagate.com/consumer/backup/expansion-portable/ (I'm using the 2TB version)
Hugs and thanks,
Dan.
Any ideas guys? I'm still a bit lost.
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Dear XDA peeps,
You guys helped me in the past when I wanted to connect this portable HD with my S7 Edge. Thanks!
Now I have a different issue.
On the S7 edge, it worked flawlessly, as long as it was formatted as FAT32 or exFAT. (NTFS worked if the phone was rooted)
On the Note8, the HD wont even power. I'm wondering if there's some secret config that could fix that...
Why would the Note8 lack the capability to power the HD when the S7 could do it.. odd.
For reference, this is the model of the HD: https://www.seagate.com/consumer/backup/expansion-portable/ (I'm using the 2TB version)
Hugs and thanks,
Dan.
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most likely a power issue. is the wire split into 2 male usb? one should go to a charger or power adapter and the other to your otg adapter to you phone. try swapping the 2 male usbs from power adapter to phone usb otg.
also try letting the device power on before plugging in your phone. i had the same issue with an external blu ray player i was trying to hook up to my phone.( i eventualy made it work, but i had also a mounting issue which i resolved with MLUSB Mounter app)
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most likely a power issue. is the wire split into 2 male usb? one should go to a charger or power adapter and the other to your otg adapter to you phone. try swapping the 2 male usbs from power adapter to phone usb otg.
also try letting the device power on before plugging in your phone. i had the same issue with an external blu ray player i was trying to hook up to my phone.( i eventualy made it work, but i had also a mounting issue which i resolved with MLUSB Mounter app)
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This portable HD only has a single cable... It doesn't even need that much juice to run.
What Is really odd is that I could use it with no issues on my s7 edge.
I'm wondering if usb type-c unable to power the device. Or if there's some hidden configuration that will allow it....Or in the end I may have a crappy adapter... In any case... Frustrating.
dangadelha said:
This portable HD only has a single cable... It doesn't even need that much juice to run.
What Is really odd is that I could use it with no issues on my s7 edge.
I'm wondering if usb type-c unable to power the device. Or if there's some hidden configuration that will allow it....Or in the end I may have a crappy adapter... In any case... Frustrating.
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https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sour...FjADegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw2X1TRDdGL2Axby28TFMNfN
try to get one of these