General feedback of using custom roms on s5 - Galaxy S 5 General

Hi all,
I've been using various custom roms on my samsung galaxy s5 for a number of years now starting from Resurrection Remix, Lineage 14.1, then progressing to lineage 15.1 and now AospExtended-v6.2-official.
It's been an interesting learning experience and somewhat enjoyable and sometimes frustrating experience.
In some aspects I'm really happy that I've done so, as the software is updated quite frequently with the latest Android security patches.
* Get to experience features that my phone was never intended to have.
* Obtain root
* scratch a learning itch.
In some other aspects it can be quite frustrating:
* I've never gotten google assistant to be responsive on a consistent level
* Sometimes my device freezes when I say ok google to wake it up from the lock screen and it takes multiple "hey google" or "ok google attempts" to get my search while the phone just freezes or takes an excessively long time to load my search (which has been consistent over all of my custom roms).
* Since using Lineage 15.1 (oreo based rom) and AospExtended (pie based rom), the frequent bluetooth disconnections, which I'm not sure will ever be fixed.
* Camera quality has never been the same as stock.
What have been some of your experiences?
Have you been able to overcome your frustrations?
Thank you.

I am pretty happy with all the roms I've used on my s5 duos .....I never use Google services so no gapps ..... everything runs lagfree ......all my app needs are met by yalpstore(it fetches apps from Google Play Store) or aurora store (same)....…....very grateful to all the devs of LOS,AEX,HAVOC,VIPEROS,BOOTLEGGERS,etc roms they have made my phone usefull again ....

clockstoper said:
I am pretty happy with all the roms I've used on my s5 duos .....I never use Google services so no gapps ..... everything runs lagfree ......all my app needs are met by yalpstore(it fetches apps from Google Play Store) or aurora store (same)....…....very grateful to all the devs of LOS,AEX,HAVOC,VIPEROS,BOOTLEGGERS,etc roms they have made my phone usefull again ....
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Interesting thanks for the response.
I enjoy Google products (when they work) but haven't had much luck with Google assistant. There's quite a bit of delay at times after I've woken up the phone with the hey Google voice command.
Sometimes this is the same with my gboard though.
Not sure whether I'm expecting too much from my old phone but it does tend to run on the slower side at times.
Sometimes I wonder whether the launcher has anything to do with it. I've decided today to use the pixel launcher which so far seems a bit smoother.
Otherwise I'd be using Nova and I've put all my apps in their own folders within the app drawee which sometimes I believe contributes to the slowness.
Overall today has been a good day I've had a couple of moments where Google assistant hasn't responded and some Bluetooth disconnects but otherwise ok.
I'm thinking about installing magisk on this rom but not sure whether it can be done as I have adopted my entire SD card.

Paul_Lunardi said:
Hi all,
I've been using various custom roms on my samsung galaxy s5 for a number of years now starting from Resurrection Remix, Lineage 14.1, then progressing to lineage 15.1 and now AospExtended-v6.2-official.
It's been an interesting learning experience and somewhat enjoyable and sometimes frustrating experience.
In some aspects I'm really happy that I've done so, as the software is updated quite frequently with the latest Android security patches.
* Get to experience features that my phone was never intended to have.
* Obtain root
* scratch a learning itch.
In some other aspects it can be quite frustrating:
* I've never gotten google assistant to be responsive on a consistent level
* Sometimes my device freezes when I say ok google to wake it up from the lock screen and it takes multiple "hey google" or "ok google attempts" to get my search while the phone just freezes or takes an excessively long time to load my search (which has been consistent over all of my custom roms).
* Since using Lineage 15.1 (oreo based rom) and AospExtended (pie based rom), the frequent bluetooth disconnections, which I'm not sure will ever be fixed.
* Camera quality has never been the same as stock.
What have been some of your experiences?
Have you been able to overcome your frustrations?
Thank you.
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Is there no fix for the Bluetooth problem ?

Related

Droid4 ROM Reviews - crDroid

I've tried out several of the ROMs available for the Droid 4 and I was already taking notes on each of them, so thought I'd share a review on each here. I already posted my thoughts on LineageOS 14.1 in a previous thread so we'll skip straight to crDroid.
crDroid 3.8.5 is the latest addition to the D4 scene. It runs Android 7.1.2 and is based on LineageOS 14.1, apparently branched from the spyder builds. Its advantages include support for JJB's overclock kernels, in fact WiFi doesn't work without it; support for use of the altpart Safestrap to repurpose the webtop partition and give you the largest 1.3GB /system partition in your stock slot; built-in signature spoofing for MicroG/Xposed support; the most recent (Jan/2018) Android security patch level; integrated custom fonts; Ad Away browser integration; great battery life; and its own cool settings section with lots of other custom features. Like all Android V5+ versions this supports hand-wave notifications on the lock screen.
Its disadvantages are that it's fairly thick due to being on 7.1.2, and unless you're running MicroG or a very tiny Gapps package (Slim Zero or OpenG pico), it can be slow, though not nearly as bad as LineageOS 14.1 on which it's based. Videos are jerky and audio stutters. It's really intended to be used with MicroG. And despite being around only six months, it is no longer officially supported by the crDroid team, so no further updates at this time. A major factor for users of Google Voice is that it displays the routing phone number of your call rather than your actual destination phone number during the call, which can be confusing at worst and annoying at best. The call log still shows the correct destination phone number though. I'm not sure where the bug for this lives but it is specific to the ROM. Most annoyingly, the swipe-to-unlock is quirky - you have to swipe fully from bottom to top, and fairly quickly. It usually takes a couple attempts before the phone unlocks, making it difficult if not impossible to do with one hand.
Verdict: Best of the AOSP V7 ROMs for D4. But V7 isn't necessarily the best choice for D4 because of its high RAM usage. Unless there's a reason you absolutely need to run V7, i.e. for an app, you're better off with an older release that uses less RAM.
Thanks for you review. It is awesome to see that there still is active members hanging around. In my mind Lollipop was a bit laggy on Droid 4 compared to KitKat roms but Marshmallow and specially Nougat roms have improved the situation. I can consider Nougat as a daily driver for Droid 4 in 2018. I just hope that we could still see Android Oreo Go edition on our device.

How usable is Xperia SP in 2018?

So I found a brand new Xperia SP at a local retailer and I like it's unique looks and slick pocketable size,
but I don't know how usable it could be in 2018, Android never been my thing but it's running Jellybeen which has I think has aged now..
So in brief how usable will it be (with the official rom) given that my usage is fairly light and revolves around:
1. Most importantly IMAP Email (Anyone kindly confirm that the mail client still works nowadays).
2.Some light web browsing (Stack overflow, Twitter, Youtube (Rarely)), How is it's web performance overall ?
3.Some music playing and Light PDF Viewing (My Nokia E66 handles those quite easily, So I think it will have no problem).
As I said I am not good with Android so I won't be able to Flash ROMs, Root, etc...
So we are talking official ROM as is..
Any Thoughts
Hi !
I used the Xperia SP as a daily driver last year for a few months, mostly because I bought some other cheap chinese phone and it had ****ty ROM - so before I found new ROM, I switched to Xperia SP for some time. Here's what I think :
1. Most importantly IMAP Email (Anyone kindly confirm that the mail client still works nowadays).
I'm pretty sure it will work without problems, in case you faced anything not working you can install some alternative e-mail client from the Play Store, like Aquamail (brilliant piece of software, and free for up to 2 e-mail accounts)
2.Some light web browsing (Stack overflow, Twitter, Youtube (Rarely)), How is it's web performance overall ?
For this it should be also OK, and actually I'd recommend using Firefox Focus (exceptionally light browser with built-in advertising filter!)
3.Some music playing and Light PDF Viewing (My Nokia E66 handles those quite easily, So I think it will have no problem).
Music sound absolutely great on this phone, as it is always for Sony devices. PDFs... no problem.
The major problem might be overweight set of Google apps. They cause weaker phones to slow down, so at the beginning it's actually good to spend some time on actual configuration of the phone (de-bloating, switching off unnecessary things etc.)
And it would be really nice to consider flashing Lineage 14.1 or 15.1 switched to Android Go. It's really not that difficult, but gives great results.
And actually it's possible to use the phone without Google Apps at all (this is what I did) - it depends on your needs. First, think about what actually would you like to use the phone for, and it might come out that you don't need Google at all (for the things you mentioned, I don't think you need it...)
Hi, I don't recommend this phone with 4.3 stock ROM, but I do recommend it with 6.0 AOSP or CyanogenMod, it just works far more better (Nougat and Oreo are worse). So, it depends if you want to try installing a custom ROM, it's not so hard, and if you want, I can try helping you with it
actually xperia sp can only run smooth without gapps, but i suffer alot because of it, if you have a better phone then you could use xperia sp for app development if u are a dev or as spare phone
You can use it without Gapps pretty smooth enough for daily basis on even Android 9.0 Pie
Then, wich is the best Rom for Xperia SP (Faster, good Batery, and daily use)
Fast, daily, battery friendly
I have used for this experience stable XenonHD 8.1. Best rom i ever had ! You dont need any tweaks, this rom is pretty fast, battery friendly and good daily experience. Plus - you can choose no navbar but gestures. Newest root solution magisk 20.1 - no issues and try with MindGapps or only Yalp Store apk.
If you turn on Ambient Display, battery drain will be knowable. I will recommend turn this function off.
My second will be LineageOS 15.1.
But lineage 15.1 have newest security updates, obviously i prefer XenonHD. Try by yourself and reply to me your exp and comparison.
Too good is AOSP-CAF 7.0, this rom have things straight from hardware compositioner (Qualcomm), so you can have fun with their options and is pretty fast.
I have tried new stable AOSP 9 and LineageOS 16.0, but i cant mark it stable, because they have still some issues, what you see after some days using, see my comment at AOSP 9, we must wait for some update.

24 hours in Using Android 9.0 on my UK H9L - Works surprisingly well - details inside

So after seeing announcements about Project Treble and GSI floating about the internet I thought I'd look for a version to use on my Honor 9 Lite and came across this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble/trebleenabled-device-discussion/android-pie-kirin-guys-t3830420
Users have had Android Pie running on a honor 7X so I thought there can't be that much difference between the 2 devices, so why not give it a try? If it goes wrong I can always use my stock backup.
So I flashed as per the instructions in that post and it works, really well. So much so that I'm gonna keep it as a daily driver.
Be careful which version of Gapps you use, the BitGapps mentioned in the post has been discontinued by the Dev, I initially tried OpenGapps but it was for 8.0 so failed to install.
If you search around you can still find the last version of BitGapps that was released, and is version 9.0 compatible.
What's Good
Installs pretty quick
Fast, much faster than EMUI - Could be a Placebo effect, but general use is very snappy and downloads/app installs seem very quick
Wi-Fi working fine
Bluetooth working fine, confirmed on Ticwatch and Car radio
Mobile data works fine
Finger print reader works fine
Sound and phone calls work fine
What's not so Good
This Rom is based off AOSP, don't expect any of the Huawei/EMUI functions or features.
On first boot the ROM is bare bones, hardly any apps installed, looks like an old version of Android rather than a shiny new one.
You have to enable guestures before the swipe navbar appears
You'll have to use a 3rd party launcher to get the full Android P look. The Quickstep launcher in this version of AOSP has sqaure icons and certain options like wallpaper/widgets etc just FC. - I chose Lawnchair for this.
Hotspot doesn't work at all, it just disables wi-fi then FC
You may have to mess around with the display settings to make things align correctly, for some reason everything seemed to be shifted to the left edge. I chose small display size with large font size to smooth it out
Camera obviously, same issues as we had on the 8.0 roms, banding/poor tracking/poor quality (Biggest downside) I've not rooted, so not tried any of the camera ports. Open Camera app has the same issues.
Sound over bluetooth was distorted (not confirmed, could be my car radio)
Some graphical glitches. Stutters & frame drops when using task switcher, switching to chrome from recents has a lag/distorted effect and menus appear out of focus and take a second or two to correct
Any Questions I'll try to answer as best as I can.
I've tried many different gsi images on my H9L. Most did make my phone 'feel' faster, I guess mainly due to the overhead EMUI takes and eliminating it does remove some burden from the phone. However, that's where the advantages stopped. Many of the issues you mention on Pie are on Oreo also. I had too many issues to overcome and make it 'daily driver' usable that it just wasn't worth it, so went back to stock and removed as much huawei/honor stuff as i could via root, then removed root. This seems to give me best of both worlds, i.e. close to vanilla android but everything, hardware wise, just works as intended. Since I have BL unlocked and TWRP working i can also keep updating, via HURupdater, with official updates for as long as huawei/honor keep posting updates; e.g. currently on B135 with Aug security patches, that is just as good as any GSI image now (Aug18).

[ROM][7.1.2][N8000/N801x/N8020][Stable][EOL] Slimroms Slim7

Code:
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
*
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
*
*/
Hi,
I'm already working over 2 years at the N80XX devices (mostly LineageOS) and want to introduce you my version of SlimRoms Slim7.
For sure I want to thank all guy's which were ever working on these devices and also in general at the smdk4412.
I also want to thank the SlimRoms team and @Android-Andi for applying the latest security patches.
I've added some extra functionality like for example wakening up the device when you pull out the pen, back event when you press the pen button,
fast charging for every power supply, working keyboard dock + lineout functioning, signature spoofing for microG, Magisk hide support and much more...
I can't guarantee that there aren't any bugs, so I need you for testing and giving me a feedback.
Spoiler: Not working at the moment
N8020: incoming calls doesn't pop up, outgoing calls + internet (also LTE) are working fine.
HDMI out for all of them, not implemented.
Links:
TWRP
N8000 Rom
N8010 / N8013 Rom
N8020 Rom
To disable the sec_keyboard for example to play games without any hardware keyboard,
simply flash my magisk module to disable it:
sec_keyboard disabler
If you are going to use Gapps,
I recommend to use the pico package!
https://opengapps.org/
For the others, you can use microG if you want to.
Do you like my work?
Than you can simply hit the thanks button and consider to spend me a coffee or a beer,
I'm doing this in my free time and it also costs a lot of money to buy hardware.
donate
https://slimroms.org/#/
Spoiler: How to install it?
Instructions
Because of my work on Android 9 and Android 11, I'm not able to proceed with all my Android 7 ROM's,
including Slim7.
I hope you can understand this and I will leave everything here as it is.
If you have to upgrade in future, check out my other ROM's.
XDA:DevDB Information
[ROM][7.1.2][N8000/N801x/N8020][Stable] Slimroms Slim7, ROM for the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
Contributors
html6405
Source Code: https://github.com/html6405
ROM OS Version: 7.x Nougat
ROM Kernel: Linux 3.0.x
Based On: SlimRoms
Security bulletin: 05.12.2020
Selinux: enforcing
Version Information
Status: Stable
Created 2020-07-06
Last Updated 2020-12-15
Works great, so far so good
Switch from LineageOS to this new OS and the pad actually works better. Thx.
tsukazachino said:
Switch from LineageOS to this new OS and the pad actually works better. Thx.
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Thank's for your feedback , if you have any problems, let me know.
Flying with Slim
My old, beat up 8013 on Slim is absolutely flying! Definitely the best out of the 4 or 5 nougat roms I've tried. ?
A noob question, can I disable the mouse/cursor in drawing apps when the stylus is active? The "pointer" in Developer Options can't toggle it on or off.
edinedi said:
My old, beat up 8013 on Slim is absolutely flying! Definitely the best out of the 4 or 5 nougat roms I've tried.
A noob question, can I disable the mouse/cursor in drawing apps when the stylus is active? The "pointer" in Developer Options can't toggle it on or off.
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Thank you for the great feedback and no, this is not possible for now,
but I will take a look at it.
wooooow man, thank alot, my old n8010 i needed a new life, i tried.
Thank you it is a great rom better than lineage 14.1 every thing work fine up till now but only few minor bugs as sometimes tablet restart suddely happened 2 times, adobe reader application hang and i uninstall it , installing application from store sometimes failed but it success on retrial
Hi. At the moment the ROM works very well. I would like to know how to remove the mouse pointer when I use the SPen.
Didn't have any reboot
hossam sokkary said:
Thank you it is a great rom better than lineage 14.1 every thing work fine up till now but only few minor bugs as sometimes tablet restart suddely happened 2 times, adobe reader application hang and i uninstall it , installing application from store sometimes failed but it success on retrial
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Hi,
thanks for testing and the almost positive feedback,
it would be great if you could make a last_kmsg after a reboot happens.
With this we could find out from where the problem does come from.
Charly_Maths said:
Hi. At the moment the ROM works very well. I would like to know how to remove the mouse pointer when I use the SPen.
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Thank you for your feedback,
I never thought that the mouse pointer could be desturbing .
There is no way for now, to disable it, but I will take a look at it
so that maybe we can deactivate it in future.
Can't get it installed
A good morning from the Netherlands, I can install lineageOs but I can't install your rom.
Can I flash your rom over lineageOs or is it necessary for a full format/cleanup.... because option 2 doesn't work for me.
Greetings from this side
Good morning,
it is necessary to do a normal factory reset.
Have you checked the md5 sum? Maybe a download error occured.
Tried an other one and yes it works thanks for the reply.
I just bought one yesterday... second hand...for me and my wife.
But maybe a noob question...ps touch and s-note aren't they in the package or am I missing something.
Gr mike
Hi Mike,
S-Note was only buildt for KitKat in the samsung stock firmware,
for this you have to use alternativevs with custom roms.
The pen itself should work fine.
Okay, so I downloaded this ROM.
Overall I'm not a fan, but I gotta give credit where it's due...
This ROM is fast and it doesn't seem to have an MTP bug! It's actually kinda usable.
It also supports Substratum Themes.
But this ROM also has some negatives!
The default browser (Lightning Browser) really sucks. It has a tab limit and tries to upsell you to a paid version. To use your own hosts file in the browser's adblock, you have to pay. There are far better browsers that could of been included instead that doesn't restrict any of it's features. I would of preferred to see Via Browser, Firefox, or Chromium included instead.
The version of Open Camera included seems to be missing features, such as Camera 2 API support (with all the additional adjustments it supports), and 60 Hz anti flickering. It also crashes upon taking a picture.
The default equalizer sucks. It just has a terrible looking UI that doesn't scale for the size of these tablets. The one in Lineage OS at least looked better and allowed saving presets. Additionally, there is no default music player (which Lineage OS did have even if it wasn't that great, you had something you could use).
Other notable missing apps I can remember from Lineage OS include: the screen recorder with voice recorder and the file manager (better than stock Android's).
It seems the stylus cursor does not have the ability to be disabled in settings as well.
Thanks for the hints, I've tried them and it works for me...my wife misses the...you can write on a website and cope send or something like that, it runs like a tablet supposed to do of that age and it's great
FanboyStudios said:
Okay, so I downloaded this ROM.
Overall I'm not a fan, but I gotta give credit where it's due...
This ROM is fast and it doesn't seem to have an MTP bug! It's actually kinda usable.
It also supports Substratum Themes.
But this ROM also has some negatives!
The default browser (Lightning Browser) really sucks. It has a tab limit and tries to upsell you to a paid version. To use your own hosts file in the browser's adblock, you have to pay. There are far better browsers that could of been included instead that doesn't restrict any of it's features. I would of preferred to see Via Browser, Firefox, or Chromium included instead.
The version of Open Camera included seems to be missing features, such as Camera 2 API support (with all the additional adjustments it supports), and 60 Hz anti flickering. It also crashes upon taking a picture.
The default equalizer sucks. It just has a terrible looking UI that doesn't scale for the size of these tablets. The one in Lineage OS at least looked better and allowed saving presets. Additionally, there is no default music player (which Lineage OS did have even if it wasn't that great, you had something you could use).
Other notable missing apps I can remember from Lineage OS include: the screen recorder with voice recorder and the file manager (better than stock Android's).
It seems the stylus cursor does not have the ability to be disabled in settings as well.
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Thank you for your feedback.
Which browser would you prefere? I can build every browser with the system.
Just want to mention, it's not LineageOS, its's Slim, this means that there are different apps and many not.
This make's the system as fast as it is.
But I could pack all apps with the system you've mentioned, if you all want this .
For everyone who would prefere a LineageOS can download it here:
https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/...-n8010-gt-n8013-gt-n8020-sch-i915.899939.html
html6405 said:
Thank you for your feedback.
Which browser would you prefere? I can build every browser with the system.
Just want to mention, it's not LineageOS, its's Slim, this means that there are different apps and many not.
This make's the system as far as it is.
But I could pack all apps with the system you've mentioned, if you all want this .
For everyone who would prefere a LineageOS can download it here:
https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/...-n8010-gt-n8013-gt-n8020-sch-i915.899939.html
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Via Browser is pretty small and lightweight, has plenty of features without being complicated, no paywalls, and the source code is available: https://github.com/tuyafeng/Via
...otherwise Firefox.
For a small, but capable music player there is Vanilla Music and 4 addons to add some nice features (like lyrics search, tag editing, cover fetch, and metadata fetch), All for free, no paywalls, not bloated.
It's probably better to download Open Camera from the Play Store and include it, or maybe FDroid? I think those builds may have more of the features.
VLC is great for media playback.
It might be nice if you include Substratum for themes (as it does work) but that's not necessary.
Also searching for Terminal in settings shows a result, but it's not available for enabling. Would love to see that return as an option.
Built-in physical keyboard issue
Hello, html6405!
First and foremost, huge thanks for still maintaining these old devices. This ROM fixed some of the main issues of the other ROMs based on Android 7.1 for my GT-N8000. Namely, the settings app and the MTP service don't regularly crash anymore and adaptive brightness, as well as the night light finally work correctly. However, it doesn't fix one of the problems I've always had with custom ROMs for my device, which is having no ability to toggle off the built-in physical keyboard. While it usually doesn't bother me when using apps, I like racing games and want to occasionally play Asphalt 8. Unfortunately, upon detecting a physical keyboard (no matter even if it's fake) the game completely refuses to give any touch-based controls, and so I am left with an unplayable game.
To make such apps usable, can you either remove the built-in physical keyboard or give an option to disable it in the settings, please?
Once again, thanks for the awesome and stable ROM, and good luck in your developer career!
ringyring said:
Hello, html!
First and foremost, huge thanks for still maintaining these old devices. This ROM fixed some of the main issues of the other ROMs based on Android 7.1 for my GT-N8000. Namely, the settings app and the MTP service don't regularly crash anymore and adaptive brightness, as well as the night light finally work correctly. However, it doesn't fix one of the problems I've always had with custom ROMs for my device, which is having no ability to toggle off the built-in physical keyboard. While it usually doesn't bother me when using apps, I like racing games and want to occasionally play Asphalt 8. Unfortunately, upon detecting a physical keyboard (no matter even if it's fake) the game completely refuses to give any touch-based controls, and so I am left with an unplayable game.
To make such apps usable, can you either remove the built-in physical keyboard or give an option to disable it in the settings, please?
Once again, thanks for the awesome and stable ROM, and good luck in your developer career!
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Hi,
thanks for your feedback, I never thought about this, to disable the keyboard.
The driver is always registered, even if it's not connected.
But when you connect the physical keyboard, a uevent will be sent to the system to recognize it.
In my opinion these games should give us the opportunity to choose how we want to control.
But I will try to find a solution for this!
FanboyStudios said:
Via Browser is pretty small and lightweight, has plenty of features without being complicated, no paywalls, and the source code is available: https://github.com/tuyafeng/Via
...otherwise Firefox.
For a small, but capable music player there is Vanilla Music and 4 addons to add some nice features (like lyrics search, tag editing, cover fetch, and metadata fetch), All for free, no paywalls, not bloated.
It's probably better to download Open Camera from the Play Store and include it, or maybe FDroid? I think those builds may have more of the features.
VLC is great for media playback.
It might be nice if you include Substratum for themes (as it does work) but that's not necessary.
Also searching for Terminal in settings shows a result, but it's not available for enabling. Would love to see that return as an option.
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Ok via browser is good, I will use it for the future builds.
I will try your recommended music players and eventually I will build the terminal with the system.
For the other things I will also take a look at it.

Recommendations for custom rom? SM-N950F/DS

Hi everyone.
I just got my Note 8 and it is a beast!
my phone prior to this was actually an Xperia Z1 (yep, the one from 2013), which has LineageOS 7.1 (Nougat) loaded onto it. I loved that rom, so much I actually put the same LineageOS version on my ASUS tablet too. So I'm pretty used to the trebuchet launcher and Nougat system in general.
the previous owner of my Note8 had pretty much installed all the updates up till late last year, so It's got the 9 Pie update installed. Android 9, combined with the One UI launcher, and topped with annoying "Bixby???" button I keep accidentally pressing, is all a little too crazy for me, coming from LOs Nougat.
with my scouring of forums, I've seen a few people suggest that staying on Oreo is better for battery life / performance / usability compared to the Pie update.
Compared to my Z1, this thing is a speed demon, it certainly isn't slow... but I do notice that the battery seems to drain a bit even when the phone is left in standby, and considering it's a fresh factory reset OS with almost no user apps installed, I'm a little concerned to see it's using 3gb of memory on just bloat and background services.
So pretty much I've been looking into the custom rom situation for the Note8.
My main priority is debloating and stability. I've seen the popular Hades and Deluxe roms, but they look almost more like they are adding features and customization, rather than stripping the useless bloat. Also they seem to be pushing even newer android versions now.
I've seen that TeamEXYKings put out a few light roms, even ones supporting nougat. which I'm interested in trying, anyone have any thoughts on these? It looks like support has dropped for them.
Points I understand so far.... (correct me if I'm wrong)
*Currently, I can't flash because my KG state is in Prenormal, still waiting the 7 days with simcard and phone staying on.
*Exynos has an unlocked bootloader, snapdragon doesn't. It seems to be a common opinion that Booatloader can't be downgraded, so therefore I won't be able to roll back an oreo or nougat rom? yet I've seen some people claim they were able to after they unlocked the bootloader (very confused)?
*Most Roms take away Spen functionality? I do need this, but only for the pressure sensetivity in my art apps, I don't care too much about the drawing on notes/screenshots/off screen/ring shortcut. Will I still get the basic funcationality of my Spen on a custom rom?
*Seems there are some Galaxy S8 roms that have Note 8 functionality and vice-versa.. should I consider these? are there any drawbacks/bugs to consider?
sorry for the long post I'm open to anyone's thoughts and suggestion, cheers!
TLDR: new phone, not too keen on Android Pie and excessive Samsung bloat. please suggest light and stable rom for note 8.
dc_all said:
Hi everyone.
I just got my Note 8 and it is a beast!
my phone prior to this was actually an Xperia Z1 (yep, the one from 2013), which has LineageOS 7.1 (Nougat) loaded onto it. I loved that rom, so much I actually put the same LineageOS version on my ASUS tablet too. So I'm pretty used to the trebuchet launcher and Nougat system in general.
the previous owner of my Note8 had pretty much installed all the updates up till late last year, so It's got the 9 Pie update installed. Android 9, combined with the One UI launcher, and topped with annoying "Bixby???" button I keep accidentally pressing, is all a little too crazy for me, coming from LOs Nougat.
with my scouring of forums, I've seen a few people suggest that staying on Oreo is better for battery life / performance / usability compared to the Pie update.
Compared to my Z1, this thing is a speed demon, it certainly isn't slow... but I do notice that the battery seems to drain a bit even when the phone is left in standby, and considering it's a fresh factory reset OS with almost no user apps installed, I'm a little concerned to see it's using 3gb of memory on just bloat and background services.
So pretty much I've been looking into the custom rom situation for the Note8.
My main priority is debloating and stability. I've seen the popular Hades and Deluxe roms, but they look almost more like they are adding features and customization, rather than stripping the useless bloat. Also they seem to be pushing even newer android versions now.
I've seen that TeamEXYKings put out a few light roms, even ones supporting nougat. which I'm interested in trying, anyone have any thoughts on these? It looks like support has dropped for them.
Points I understand so far.... (correct me if I'm wrong)
*Currently, I can't flash because my KG state is in Prenormal, still waiting the 7 days with simcard and phone staying on.
*Exynos has an unlocked bootloader, snapdragon doesn't. It seems to be a common opinion that Booatloader can't be downgraded, so therefore I won't be able to roll back an oreo or nougat rom? yet I've seen some people claim they were able to after they unlocked the bootloader (very confused)?
*Most Roms take away Spen functionality? I do need this, but only for the pressure sensetivity in my art apps, I don't care too much about the drawing on notes/screenshots/off screen/ring shortcut. Will I still get the basic funcationality of my Spen on a custom rom?
*Seems there are some Galaxy S8 roms that have Note 8 functionality and vice-versa.. should I consider these? are there any drawbacks/bugs to consider?
sorry for the long post I'm open to anyone's thoughts and suggestion, cheers!
TLDR: new phone, not too keen on Android Pie and excessive Samsung bloat. please suggest light and stable rom for note 8.
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Rather than trying to address everything I will stick to what is most important for you, debloating and stability. Both Deluxe and Hades rom let you choose most of what bloatware you want during the Aroma installation, although they vary slightly in what is selectable but if you don't want Bixby for example just don't select it in Aroma. For stability you won't go wrong with a stock based rom.
If you love Lineaage OS you can flash Lineage 17 which is stable, you can find the latest build in the link I will post below, however this will remove the Spen functionality so it is literally just a touch pen and I don't know if the pressure censor works for drawing. You will need to flash Gapps with this to get the Google play store.
https://images.stricted.net/lineageos/greatlte/
I want to make you aware, just in case you don't know, that as soon as you flash TWRP this trips Knox so Samsung Pay will never work again, it breaks other things too like Shealth and Secure Folder but most stock based roms have this patched so they work, just not Samsung Pay.
Another option is to buy a package disabler, which is what I use, so I can disable or enable any app with just a click so then you can stay fully stock.
stonedpsycho said:
Rather than trying to address everything I will stick to what is most important for you, debloating and stability. Both Deluxe and Hades rom let you choose most of what bloatware you want during the Aroma installation, although they vary slightly in what is selectable but if you don't want Bixby for example just don't select it in Aroma. For stability you won't go wrong with a stock based rom.
If you love Lineaage OS you can flash Lineage 17 which is stable, you can find the latest build in the link I will post below, however this will remove the Spen functionality so it is literally just a touch pen and I don't know if the pressure censor works for drawing. You will need to flash Gapps with this to get the Google play store.
https://images.stricted.net/lineageos/greatlte/
I want to make you aware, just in case you don't know, that as soon as you flash TWRP this trips Knox so Samsung Pay will never work again, it breaks other things too like Shealth and Secure Folder but most stock based roms have this patched so they work, just not Samsung Pay.
Another option is to buy a package disabler, which is what I use, so I can disable or enable any app with just a click so then you can stay fully stock.
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Thanks a bunch for your advice, very helpful.
and thanks for bringing up the knox thing. I have heard that, though I forgot to mention it in my post. I think I'll be fine without those samsung features.
I'll keep a close eye on Hades and Deluxe then. There seems to be the most information about them online and even some video reviews.
I'll look into the newer lineageOS too, it sounds like it will meet my needs, but I would hate to lose some functionality on Spen or camera, so Stock based may be the way to go..
Also I hadn't ever heard of a Package disabler.. definitely going to look into that too.
Another great perk for LOS was the privacy guard, being able to disable apps loading at startup or not allowing them to run in background really extended my battery life. I'll have to look into similar options from 3rd party apps.
thanks again for your help.

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