Been very happy with the Kaiser so far, including on the GPS front ;-) but I'm getting slightly annoyed by two hardware nits :
1. wobbly : in portrait mode when I tap on the screen the right side tends to "hit" the keyboard part underneath and looking closely it's easy to understand why, there is a tiny gap between the two parts, likely for the slide/tilt mechanism
2. sloped : when I pull out the keyboard, the right side of the screen goes out more than the left side so it is slightly sloped. It improved a bit when folding the screen. Again I think this is a constraint of the slide/tilt mechanism
I'm thinking it's a general quirk because I had to change my first model (stuck key) and it had the same problems.
Anyone else noticed that ?
in portrait mode my kaiser seems to be spaced the same all the way around and doesnt push on the keyboard when tapping the screen. I do notice what you mean by the keyboard appearing to be farther out on the right side but after taking a closer look it just seems that way because of the face plate not being uniform all the way down (part where it flares out on the left side). Mine is exactly pushed out on both sides.
Lavachild said:
in portrait mode my kaiser seems to be spaced the same all the way around and doesnt push on the keyboard when tapping the screen. I do notice what you mean by the keyboard appearing to be farther out on the right side but after taking a closer look it just seems that way because of the face plate not being uniform all the way down (part where it flares out on the left side). Mine is exactly pushed out on both sides.
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Mine's the same as this. It sounds like yours may not be quite right and I'd consider getting a replacement. Of course, if you can live with it, and the functionality is all there then it's entirely up to you.
For the sloping I've had two and they were both the same, so it's probably a design constraint, no biggie.
For the "wobbling", it comes and goes, I can only really feel the "knocks" when I hold the left side tight and tap on the scroll bar on the right, again, no biggie.
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iv had the same problem of one end sticking out,
iv gone around it by inserting some tiny smugged paper into the sliding slots at the back, resolves the issue quite well.
I don't seem to have either problem (TyTN II version).
Hey guys, there seems to be something a little irregular with the screen. When I press on the screen anywhere, there is a spot on the screen that appears to be what looks like pressure being exerted on it. Just like how it looks when you press on the LCD screen of a laptop. This happens also when i press on the case at the top on the left side. The spot I am talking about is about 1 in down from the top of the screen and about 1.5cm to the right from the left of the screen. It is not easily seen unless the screen is displaying a very dark background.
There is a membrane over the surface of the screen that will flex as any pressure is applied to the touch screen, both by the pen and by the frame. If you look at it through polarized sunglasses you can see the effect of any pressure quite dramatically. Unless the screen is malfunctioning or there is color distortion, I don't see a problem.
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There is a membrane over the surface of the screen that will flex as any pressure is applied to the touch screen, both by the pen and by the frame. If you look at it through polarized sunglasses you can see the effect of any pressure quite dramatically. Unless the screen is malfunctioning or there is color distortion, I don't see a problem.
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i dont think thats what hes talking about, he makes it sound like whne he touches the screen a "lcd ripple" appears somewhere else on the screen.
Mine does this when i slide hte keyboard, i can see one in the middle, it kinda worries me, especially since my last kaiser's screen broke and i didnt do anything, i just took it out of my pocket and it was like that.
Does anyone else have this problem:
When you're just pressing a bit harder than the usual touch, on the top and bottom Left side bezel, it causes the Screen to ripple (fluid wave effect).
Not even pushing down too hard, just a firmer press than usual. This is easy too see on a darker background, like the default background when the device wakes up and still in locked mode.
Yes I realize it's a LCD screen, plus this Corning glass is thinner, and we're not always pressing it that hard to notice anyway.
But the Right side bezel and other areas are mostly fine,
So I'm wondering if it's a defect on my device or not (the left side being too sensitive)? would this cause further problem in the future? And it could be a concern if I carry the Nexus 7 in the backpack and other items pressing on it.
Other reports on this:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3125396/google-nexus-7-review
"the display can give a little and cause the LCD to ripple if you really press hard against the screen"
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-tablet-forum/191040-screen-distortion.html
I wonder if I try the Fix on the other thread, taking off the cover, but instead, loosen the screws a bit on the left side, would that help?
Thanks!
Hi,
My device has this too. Mostly on the left side & a little less on the right side but hardly any on the top or bottom.
So the IR sensors on the phone, the ones that are on each corner of the phone and detect movement so that it lights up the active display. Has anyone noticed this? When i wave my hands over the bottom ones, the screen doesn't light up, but if i wave my hand over the top one, it does. Does this mean my bottom ones aren't working? It hasn't really been a real problem, and I'm exchanging my phone for a different color anyway, but wondering if other can recreate this or if it is actually an issue.
Should only take a quick wave of your hand over the bottom bezel of the phone to see if the display turns on. Someone please take a second to let me know.
You have to be a certain height above the lower sensors for it to activate. I have the same issue.
I also have to look at the screen just right to make the screen stay on. Many times it starts to dim while I am reading and I have to adjust the phone. I also have to wave fairly high up to turn it on.
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I could be wrong but I believe you have to wave your hand completely over the display for it to function properly. So its not unintentionally turning on with every movement near it. The command is a hand wave over the display, not the bottom of the phone. So I believe its working as designed.
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I could be wrong but I believe you have to wave your hand completely over the display for it to function properly. So its not unintentionally turning on with every movement near it. The command is a hand wave over the display, not the bottom of the phone. So I believe its working as designed.
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I can make it activate by waving over the bottom half, but only when I do it a few inches above the screen.
i have the same problem.
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I can make it activate by waving over the bottom half, but only when I do it a few inches above the screen.
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i can activate the sensors when approaching from the upper part of the screen.
But not from the lower half (sensors below the display).
when seen in very dark room i see all the sensors (upper two and lower two) light up red.
i know that when the upper part of the phone is covered ,the sensors don't work because if the proximity sensor senses dark then it means ur phone is in ur pocket.
should i get a replacement . (really worried)
i did reinstall the moto app, it didn't help.
My Moto X has the same issue.
Edit, covering the top sensor may make the phone think it is in a pocket. I can wave over the bottom of the phone with no response though.
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So the IR sensors on the phone, the ones that are on each corner of the phone and detect movement so that it lights up the active display. Has anyone noticed this? When i wave my hands over the bottom ones, the screen doesn't light up, but if i wave my hand over the top one, it does. Does this mean my bottom ones aren't working? It hasn't really been a real problem, and I'm exchanging my phone for a different color anyway, but wondering if other can recreate this or if it is actually an issue.
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There's nothing wrong with your phone- the "sensors" at the bottom are just flashers and the actual IR receiver is in the top of the phone, so if you wave your hand too close to the bottom the receiver won't be able to pick it up.
Only the top right one wakes the device on mine.
I really doubt it's the IR. I believe it's the camera waking the device.
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mefxes said:
Only the top right one wakes the device on mine.
I really doubt it's the IR. I believe it's the camera waking the device.
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Why would you doubt something that is explicitly stated by the manufacturer? The IR sensor's sole purpose is for gestures, one of which is to show the Active Display.
Only top right corner wakes my phone
I don't think you have a problem. Try this:
If u simply wave at the top sensors, from any direction, the screen turns on.
For the lower sensors, try a bunch of different movements and you'll realize that when you reach for your phone (that means, moving your hand down and approaching the phone from the bottom part) the bottom sensors work.
My theory: the top sensors detect any movements, specially wave (from side to side) movement. The bottom ones detct the "reaching for" movement... If i remember correctly, the little demo you get inside Moto app tells you you can view notification by waving right above the screen or right before you grab the smartphone... isn't it exactly that which we are discussing?
Taking a shot in the dark here, but try going to the "Moto" app, hit the little gear icon top right and select actions. Then select "Wave to silence".
Now test it out, try swiping just above the top sensor (leaving the bottom sensors unused). Now try vise-versa (swipe across the bottom sensors while leaving the top unused). Notice how the wave action DOESN'T work when you isolate the sensors in this way. Now try swiping just above both of them with either your hand or with two fingers, one swiping the bottom and one swiping the top at the same time, you'll notice that DOES work. I think the only time all the sensors are used is for the action of waving to silence calls and things of that nature. When it comes to Moto Display and showing notifications, I'm pretty sure it's programmed to only use the top right sensor, as it wouldn't need three sensors to detect movement. Though I'm not sure why all three sensors come on when the display is off.
-Jettic
Again, there is only one actual sensor, the rest are just flashers, like little LEDs. The flashers send out IR, and the sensor picks it up. What this means, is if the sensor doesn't see your hand (ie, when your hand is only near the bottom of your phone) it's not going to activate anything. The IR flashers essentially bathe your hand in IR light, and the sensor is the component that actually sees it. Make sense?
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Again, there is only one actual sensor, the rest are just flashers, like little LEDs. The flashers send out IR, and the sensor picks it up. What this means, is if the sensor doesn't see your hand (ie, when your hand is only near the bottom of your phone) it's not going to activate anything. The IR flashers essentially bathe your hand in IR light, and the sensor is the component that actually sees it. Make sense?
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:good: +1.
I've read the same statement in some technical review.
Can't really remember which ones.
Don't replace your moto X. He's fine.
I've noticed on mine, the bottom two are easily visible in the dark, whereas the top right is barely visible, and the top left isn't visible at all.
I'm not sure if this is affecting the performance or not.
kloan said:
I've noticed on mine, the bottom two are easily visible in the dark, whereas the top right is barely visible, and the top left isn't visible at all.
I'm not sure if this is affecting the performance or not.
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Read the post from MetalHead above yours.
I can activate my screen by waving my hand over the bottom or top portions of the screen.
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Read the post from MetalHead above yours.
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i did. The top left one doesn't light up at all, unlike the bottom two. This leads me to believe it's non-functioning.
I use my x4 since october and today I discovered it isn't 100% flat. When I put the phone screen down on the table I can fell little moves on opposite corners. I carry my phone in the front pocket and try not to make any pressure on it. I do not overheat my phone either. I can not see any bent on sides, it looks fine. Anyone having this issue too?
I haven't taken my phone out of the box yet but it could be from the camera 'bump' in the middle.
dougo007 said:
I haven't taken my phone out of the box yet but it could be from the camera 'bump' in the middle.
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"Flat" laying on screen. When you put your phone screen down and can't feel any moves, phone doesn't "swing" when you press any of its corners.