I want to do a factory reset. And the app doesn't save data on cloud.
Will built in backup/restore work in my case?
I found my app in Google Drive backup folder. So at least the app I am interested is safe.
But still need an answer regarding how Samsung backup works.
Thanks!
Not sure about Smart Switch but the normal backup that you restore when you setup your phone initially, does not backup app data or the APK. It just reinstalls from the Playstore.
bat0nas said:
I found my app in Google Drive backup folder. So at least the app I am interested is safe.
But still need an answer regarding how Samsung backup works.
Thanks!
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Samsung cloud backup will backup your apps, data and settings.
Here you go https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00060517/
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Samsung cloud backup will backup your apps, data and settings.
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Here you go https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00060517/
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Yeah, this is exactly what I was talking about, I've backup and restored my phone from Samsung Cloud atleast 20 times already and it has never restored app data. It will backup a list of the apps you have installed and install that list when you initially setup the phone but that's it.
willhemmens said:
Yeah, this is exactly what I was talking about, I've backup and restored my phone from Samsung Cloud atleast 20 times already and it has never restored app data. It will backup a list of the apps you have installed and install that list when you initially setup the phone but that's it.
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I always backup apps with Google and data, desktop settings, and other settings with Samsung cloud backup. I have never had problems with restoring after that.
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Have you followed this steps?
https://www.samsung.com/au/support/mobile-devices/how-to-restore-data-from-samsung-cloud/
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I always backup apps with Google and data, desktop settings, and other settings with Samsung cloud backup. I have never had problems with restoring after that.
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You aren't understanding this question, he wanted the app data backed up, so after he resets his phone, the app is exactly how it was before the reset. Google's backup doesn't do that either. The only way I'm aware to have that backed up is Titanium Backup, which requires root.
Like I wrote, when I backup with booth Google and Samsung cloud. My apps data and settings are exactly like before after Factory reset and restore.
Ok so.. To be clear.. Nothing.. Nothing backs up the apps data like titanium backup.. I used it long time ago, but i stopped rooting since few years.
Now the difference between samsung backup or cloud or switch (all almost does the same thing) and Google backup cant be determined..
Here is my experience..
Google backup does backup apps data and settings perfectly when using a pixel phone.. So pixel to pexil..
Samsung cloud or switch does backup SOME apps data (Samsung to Samsung). And does backup the majority of Samsung native apps and settings (always misses something when restoring)
However, i noticed that as long as you are backing up and restoring to the same phone (same device not only same brand) then either Samsung or Google do restore the most possible..
You have to keep in my mind that there are apps that i couldn't restore its data no matter what, and mostly these apps are the ones that have higher authentication (Instagram, WhatsApp, shipment tracking apps, banks apps and so on).. But i was always able to restore apps like Talon or Fenix (twitter apps)..
I believe that some apps do allow restoration as long as its coming back to the same exact device (simple formate and restore) but others dont no matter what..
Recently i did a factory reset after updating to pie (i didn't factory reset during the beta so my apps where already setup on pie) so moving from pie to pie in samsung and same device using SD card and Samsung switch. I would say most of samsung settings where restored, 40% of my apps data restored, i had 2 or 3 apps completely not restored and i downloaded them again from play store.. Most of samsung native apps settings were restored..
I would advice, doing both Samsung switch and Google backup (keep in mind that Google back is now activated and u can manually backup ur device anytime) thats what i did, and when i restored the last time, i restored from both, because when u do the setup, first google asks you if you want to restore then samsung asks you too.. So i did both.. And i would say it worked better than what i expected, minimal setup overall compared to a fresh device setup.. But expect an hour or 2 of double checking of you do check all apps after restoring like me..
This thread is relevant to me. I want to root my phone, but first I want to backup my apps and data. I know in future I can use Titanium Backup but how to backup now without root. Is everyone using Smart Switch and Google Backup. I looked at Helium but most apps say they can't be backed up.
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Attempting to root the phone, but apprently unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone, how would I backup/restore and settings? such as handcent, contacts, apps etc
This might not help since I haven't ran non rooted android in over a year. I do know for the apps you can use app manager or any other type. I use app manager to backup app to sd. Then when when root just install app manager first then mass install all the apps I was running. also handy when setting up app 2sd
use titanium backup to backup everything.... and then restore later...
craigacgomez said:
use titanium backup to backup everything.... and then restore later...
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root is required to run titanium backup...seems he may be in a catch-22.
I assume all of your contacts are sync'd with your google account, yeah? If so, do this...
look up wavesecure in the market. Install it and set it up. Accounts are free for only a week or so longer. This is an app you should have anyways. Once setup, backup your sms/mms. If you don't care about your texts, then ignore this setup. Once you are setup again, install this app. If your phone ever goes missing, you will hate yourself for not using it.
Now move forward with your unlocking, rooting, flashing, etc. Once you are setup, purchase a backup solution (my backup or titanium) and take full advantage of it Of course, setup wavesecure to restore if you backup up your texts.
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Hi
I installed titanium backup and now I want to backup the following items:
- All applications
- All System data like wireless passwords, etc
- All user data like contacts, sms, mms, dictionary and so on.
Can you please let me know which menu I should use?
thanks.
legolas.w said:
Hi
I installed titanium backup and now I want to backup the following items:
- All applications
- All System data like wireless passwords, etc
- All user data like contacts, sms, mms, dictionary and so on.
Can you please let me know which menu I should use?
thanks.
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Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps + system data
Thank you, Now I can install new ROMs with no worry about my SMS and MMS messages being lost.
legolas.w said:
Thank you, Now I can install new ROMs with no worry about my SMS and MMS messages being lost.
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I also
Will batch work on the TB free version?
If I remember correctly - in free version you can batch backup, but you can't batch restore, or the batch restore is limited speed.
When you batch restore with the free version, you have to confirm each one. Fun.
harolds said:
Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps + system data
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Thanks Man
Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps + system data : is there any difference between this and a nandroid backup? i mean does it make an image with EVERYTHING you have on your phone?
No it doesn't make an image of everything on the phone like a nandroid backup
A nandroid backup backs up the system, data, cache, and a few other things like ext and recovery depending on how you set it but a titanium backup just backs up apps and data (which are on the data and cache partitions).
You can also create an update.zip to put in your recovery folder and flash that way too. You can set a schedule to back up new, new versions or all. IMHO, pay the money. It has helped me in several instances. You can convert system to data or vice versa, un/attach apps to market and my favorite is you can clean your Dex right from the app.
Somewhere way back I thought folks were having issues restoring System with TB and recommended just doing apps/data--
Right or Wrong?
I like MyBackUp Pro as a quicker (non-nandroid) bu of system/sms/mms/call logs/home screens/settings etc
Ken
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Somewhere way back I thought folks were having issues restoring System with TB and recommended just doing apps/data--
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Well, the issue is that some of the restored settings were conflicting with what was in there. If you restore system back to the same version (of CM or Android), then it should be problem free. But if you are restoring between nightlies of CM or major releases of stock, then options may have changed and restoring *can* cause conflicts that result in funky operations or bootloops. This doesn't happen all the time, but it has happened enough to me that I don't recommend it.
My recommendation is to just backup all your apps and app data (I also include TB's backup of wifi access points, bluetooth pairings, google accounts, call logs and sms messages). It really doesn't take too long to go and check all your settings. Plus it gives you the opportunity to see what new features were added.
And in all honesty, I am not sure MyBackup Pro would be any different in the above... both just backup the data and restore it. I think if one were to cause an issue, the other one would as well.
Thanks for info bass,
I never restore system with TB, only backup/restore apps--no issues
I started using My BackUp before rooted, so as to have a bu of things if root went wrong. Just kept using it
Never had an issue restoring system with My BackUp, even after a month of nightlies
Main thing I like it for is Home Screens--saves time after fresh flash
Ken
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Main thing I like it for is Home Screens--saves time after fresh flash
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That is definitely a benefit to using a 3rd-party launcher. I use ADW EX and everything for that app is saved in the app data, so as soon as I restore the app I am back to normal (well, except for my widgets and the background, but there are only two widgets that I use). But I do definitely sympathize on not wanting to redo all your settings. I hate it when I forget something simple like changing the wifi back to never turn off.
Agreed--
I use ADW with CMN's but not EX. Haven't looked real close at its restore capabilities. But, My Back Up does CM/Sense/MIUI restores with Home Screens with no problems
Just comfortable with it--
titanium backup restored my adw ex just fine minus the widgets.
thank you i was looking for that.
This is probably very noob of me but I'll ask it anyways...... This just dawned on me to back up everything via titanium Backup then use the file to restore on new custom ROMs. Instead if using Google back up to download everytime. Can I presumably download like Pico gapps with virtually nothing, back up all my user and system apps with titanium Backup then restore everything everything on the new rom and I'll have all the apps and system apps from my previous rom?
If I back up user apps and system apps with titanium Backup then restore will my call logs, texts, etc also be installed?
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This is probably very noob of me but I'll ask it anyways...... This just dawned on me to back up everything via titanium Backup then use the file to restore on new custom ROMs. Instead if using Google back up to download everytime. Can I presumably download like Pico gapps with virtually nothing, back up all my user and system apps with titanium Backup then restore everything everything on the new rom and I'll have all the apps and system apps from my previous rom?
If I back up user apps and system apps with titanium Backup then restore will my call logs, texts, etc also be installed?
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Rule #1 as you will see as you get more into this you NEVER restore "system" apps this will create FC - force closures and errors all day long. Only restore user apps and data.
If coming from a Samsung going to a Nexus for example, you would TiBu all your users apps/data on Samsung to restore to Nexus. You do not have to restore the Google backup you can...but more senior people like me setup device as a new device. Google restore does not bring over your user data and settings like TiBu will. TiBu will give you exactly what the app was like on the old device....google will not in majority of cases...for me none.
- TiBu user app/data and no system data
- Setup new device as new and restore TiBu app/data. Can do the Google it you like and then let TiBu overwrite it
You can install the Pico gapps. Let's say you had a new rom without Google Newstand...even if it was not in the gapps your TiBu would restore it just fine with no issues.... But the gapps does add other background google services you need not visible to eye like apps...but the apps can fully come from your backup even if they dont exist on the new device.
No you will not get your call log, etc since you do not restore system info. But there are third party apps that can back that up if that is that important. I use apps like Textra and not device messaging apps so when TiBu restores Textra I get it all back old messages\etc....again you do not want to restore 'red' system apps but find 3rd party apps that backup call log, text (if google app), etc.
What if it's the same device but different rom. Would restoring system apps also create issues
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What if it's the same device but different rom. Would restoring system apps also create issues
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Still you do not want to do that....you could be dealing with a phone that is the same but the build version of the OS could be different and those systems updates could have different version numbers. So restoring systems adds that are not exact as the previous could result in bad situation.
If you are going from same device to same device, then you can backup...do a TWRP or Nandroid backup which will give you an image backup of exactly what you have with data and system.
If you do a full backup, you could experiment and gamble doing it your way and if it goes back...just restore the backup.
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Still you do not want to do that....you could be dealing with a phone that is the same but the build version of the OS could be different and those systems updates could have different version numbers. So restoring systems adds that are not exact as the previous could result in bad situation.
If you are going from same device to same device, then you can backup...do a TWRP or Nandroid backup which will give you an image backup of exactly what you have with data and system.
If you do a full backup, you could experiment and gamble doing it your way and if it goes back...just restore the backup.
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Thanks for the info. I'll just stick with the user apps and back them into a folder. You also recommended textra for texts? So it will just back up like a normal user app and you can keep all your text messages that way?
I am trying to restore all of my apps from my Nandroid backup.
The thing is after analyzing TWRP backup it is showing all the apps that needs to extract.
1. There is no smiley on the right side of the app list, Smiley indicates the app is already installed.
2. Select missing apps does nothing.
3. When I select a single app (for example Solid Explorer) to extract it says Processing 0% after few seconds everything closes and there is a notification "Batch restore finished." But the app never get installed I even tried rebooting the phone after the restore there is no app restored.
Can someone help me with this issue please.
I really need those apps from that Nandroid backup.
P.S. I even tried that Nandroid Manager, it only restores the app not the data.
I'm confused, if you use Titanium, why did you just backup your app data with Titanium?
I've never used the function to extract from nandroid. But it would seem to me, not as simple or reliable as just using Titanium to backup.
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I'm confused, if you use Titanium, why did you just backup your app data with Titanium?
I've never used the function to extract from nandroid. But it would seem to me, not as simple or reliable as just using Titanium to backup.
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The thing is I don't have a back up from Titanium and my phone got formatted while updating it and I only have a Nandroid backup so, I need to recover the apps from nandroid backup only.
Hope this clears it up.
ManikandanGuru said:
The thing is I don't have a back up from Titanium and my phone got formatted while updating it and I only have a Nandroid backup so, I need to recover the apps from nandroid backup only.
Hope this clears it up.
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Got it. I often will do a batch backup with Titanium, then copy the Titanium folder to my computer. Especially before updating, ROM flashing, etc. Maybe a lot of extra work (and some may consider it a bit paranoid) but it would have avoided the current situation. I don't completely trust the internal storage will not be wiped (even though it isn't "supposed" to be) and you see for good reason, in this case.
Never actually tried it, but restoring in Titanium from a nandroid seems tricky to me. Just adding more points of failure/complication.
If you try to install an app by other means (Play store, etc.) than restore app data only, does it work?
Another workaround (although convoluted) may be to restore the nandroid, either data only (may cause problems on the updated ROM, I know); or restore the whole thing and make a Titanium backup and then go back to the "updated" ROM. So yeah, like I said, convoluted. I would also consider making a nandroid of the current setup (to restore to as needed) before doing any of the above. Lots of steps I know, but a workaround, nonetheless.
I've definitely had to resort to restoring a nandroid, since I forgot to backup apps with Titanium. So flip flopping back and forth, backing up and restoring with Titanium, etc. Yes, it's a pain, but it works.
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Got it. I often will do a batch backup with Titanium, then copy the Titanium folder to my computer. Especially before updating, ROM flashing, etc. Maybe a lot of extra work (and some may consider it a bit paranoid) but it would have avoided the current situation. I don't completely trust the internal storage will not be wiped (even though it isn't "supposed" to be) and you see for good reason, in this case.
Never actually tried it, but restoring in Titanium from a nandroid seems tricky to me. Just adding more points of failure/complication.
If you try to install an app by other means (Play store, etc.) than restore app data only, does it work?
Another workaround (although convoluted) may be to restore the nandroid, either data only (may cause problems on the updated ROM, I know); or restore the whole thing and make a Titanium backup and then go back to the "updated" ROM. So yeah, like I said, convoluted. I would also consider making a nandroid of the current setup (to restore to as needed) before doing any of the above. Lots of steps I know, but a workaround, nonetheless.
I've definitely had to resort to restoring a nandroid, since I forgot to backup apps with Titanium. So flip flopping back and forth, backing up and restoring with Titanium, etc. Yes, it's a pain, but it works.
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Yeah, whatever you said were true and I used to do your method couple of years back and all of my recurring dirty flashes went without any issues and I completely ignored the Titanium backup and went with the Nandroid backup only.
About this thread I got tired and installed all the apps from play store
More than 100 apps I think. Lot of work but a great lesson. I am going to make a Titanium Backup before every update from now on.
Thanks for the reply buddy. :good::good:
if it doesnt work with TB you can just restore your nandroid and then take the backups with TB.
maybe still easier than reconfiguring 100 of apps.
I actually can't restore my nandroid backup successfully.
When it's restored, the screen won't come on (all black) but recovery works and what's weirder is, that when I hold the pwr button, the icons for 'turn off' and 'reboot' come up, but I can't see the wallpaper, no lockscreen, nothing
Installed OS from scratch and now I'm trying to recover all my apps from the nandroid backup without messing it up again
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I want to chime in for anyone who arrives from google search: I had the same problem.
The solution? Install the APKs first, be it from Google Play or manually, and then restore only data from the nandroid. That worked for me.
SOLUTION (working on lineage 14): restore apps with Nandroid Manager and restore data with Titanium Backup.
Just so everyone is on the same page:
Nandroid Manager only seems to be able to recover Apps, but hangs on Data.
Titanium Backup can recover both, but the button to select Missing Apps doesn't work.
B also requires that you copy your backup to the internal SD, or else it will not be discovered.
Fix: Select missing Apps in Nandoid Manager > restore only App > take a note of the apps that you restored > use Titanium Backup to restore the data.
skuppej said:
Fix: Select missing Apps in Nandoid Manager > restore only App > take a note of the apps that you restored > use Titanium Backup to restore the data.
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Since the app has been pulled from playstore and not being actively developed, do you think it still works? My phone went into a bootloop when restarting and I made a nandroid backup of data. I flashed the same rom again after clearing the system and data partion. I started the phone and booted up just fine. But when I went to twrp again to restore the data backup, it went into bootloop again. I want to extract and restore the data only for few apps, do you think this method would work?
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Since the app has been pulled from playstore and not being actively developed, do you think it still works? My phone went into a bootloop when restarting and I made a nandroid backup of data. I flashed the same rom again after clearing the system and data partion. I started the phone and booted up just fine. But when I went to twrp again to restore the data backup, it went into bootloop again. I want to extract and restore the data only for few apps, do you think this method would work?
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Yeah I think it will still work!
abhi8192 said:
I want to extract and restore the data only for few apps, do you think this method would work?
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I found this solution! "Automate individual app restores from an android TWRP backup" https://github.com/joshuabragge/twrp-manual-restore
Just wondering the above. I'll be sending my Note9 in to Samsung for repair, which entails a factory reset. I'd like to backup my apps, app data (e.g. logins), & phone settings before the factory reset, and then restore them when I get the phone back?
What's the best way to do this? Is Smart Switch the best solution, or should I use something else?
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Just wondering the above. I'll be sending my Note9 in to Samsung for repair, which entails a factory reset. I'd like to backup my apps, app data (e.g. logins), & phone settings before the factory reset, and then restore them when I get the phone back?
What's the best way to do this? Is Smart Switch the best solution, or should I use something else?
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I don't think smart switch could backup apps data or whole phone setting. It could backup messages, contact, apps and call history maybe.
Perhaps samsung cloud could do more but never use it either.
With root, swift backup/titanium backup could backup apps data. Not sure about backup/restore of whole phone setting though.
TWRP recovery backup all .
Smart Switch backs everything up, except the Apps and Secure Folder, but it will backup everything about the apps except the app, so their settings are restored but the app is automatically downloaded.