Speaker quality - Xiaomi Mi 9 Questions & Answers

Early leaked information mentioned "Xiaomi claims sound has also been improved with 'industry's best linear speaker', equivalent to 0.9cc large speaker box with deeper bass, Smart PA uses dynamic gain to amplify sound by 100%".
Has there been any real life reviews of the speaker quality as of yet?

https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_9-review-1891p3.php
"Loudspeaker
A lot of things have changed since the Mi 8, but the loudspeaker is not one of them. We were disappointed to find out that the Mi 9 doesn't boast stereo speakers. Instead, it has the same bottom-firing loudspeaker as the Mi 8 and it even scored the same Very Good mark at our loudness test."

NisseGurra said:
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_9-review-1891p3.php
"Loudspeaker
A lot of things have changed since the Mi 8, but the loudspeaker is not one of them. We were disappointed to find out that the Mi 9 doesn't boast stereo speakers. Instead, it has the same bottom-firing loudspeaker as the Mi 8 and it even scored the same Very Good mark at our loudness test."
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Thanks, appreciated!

Xiaomi talk a lot but after Mi6 the speaker is mono and trash

https://www.gizchina.com/2019/02/17/xiaomi-details-the-sound-quality-of-xiaomi-mi-9/

cd993 said:
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/02/17/xiaomi-details-the-sound-quality-of-xiaomi-mi-9/
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Very conflicted on this, on one hand Xiaomi seem to be confident that the Mi 9's speaker has improved & have advertised it like shown on the article yet the GSMArena review claims the speaker is basically identical to the Mi 8, keen to see what other reviewers say

TheInfiniteAndroid said:
Very conflicted on this, on one hand Xiaomi seem to be confident that the Mi 9's speaker has improved & have advertised it like shown on the article yet the GSMArena review claims the speaker is basically identical to the Mi 8, keen to see what other reviewers say
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Yeah I'm the exact same. I was getting myself psyched for some next level improvements to the speaker with the bass claims etc but indeed really hope this is the case!

Rommco05 said:
I also watched all these articles, and information about improved speaker made me happy but other side article from GMSarena is right opposite. Eagerly waiting for clarifacion from XDA users
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I'm the exact same...

Rommco05 said:
Do you guys plannig buy Mi9?
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Yeah I am.
Currently got the Pixel 2 XL and whilst I'm sure the speakers won't be anywhere near as good as these stereo ones, I'm very curious about "Xiaomi claims sound has also been improved with 'industry's best linear speaker', equivalent to 0.9cc large speaker box with deeper bass, Smart PA uses dynamic gain to amplify sound by 100%"

Rommco05 said:
Do you guys plannig buy Mi9?
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Hoping they announce a Global transparent edition, if not I'll probably end up with the standard one

Speaker for me is a decent single speaker, coming from OnePlus 6t with there single speaker its better imo.

It's got a decent amount of bass to it!

Bring back the glory of stereo speaker just like Mi6 then?

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audio quality and camera quite a bit worse than razr m?

can it be so? according to
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p6.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p7.php
thought the audio chip and camera nternals would be the same
alpha beta gaga said:
can it be so? according to
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p6.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p7.php
thought the audio chip and camera nternals would be the same
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Different SoC's have different DAC's (Digital-to-Analog-Converters [Audio Chips]). Exynos, for example, has the awesome Wolfson DAC, which you can use the Voodoo Audio mod with. The Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 has a different, but still very good one. So yeah, it makes sense that this Intel one [probably] has a different DAC considering you're talking about an entire system on a chip. The camera, however is independent and has nothing to do with the SoC. So if Motorola decided to use a lesser quality camera on the i than the M, that was an independent decision.
alpha beta gaga said:
can it be so? according to
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p6.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p7.php
thought the audio chip and camera nternals would be the same
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Personal experience is that the i has a better camera than the M, but that both are mediocre. Kind of hilarious that the i had a dedicated camera button for a shoddy camera.
-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
Product F(RED) said:
Different SoC's have different DAC's (Digital-to-Analog-Converters [Audio Chips]). Exynos, for example, has the awesome Wolfson DAC, which you can use the Voodoo Audio mod with. The Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 has a different, but still very good one. So yeah, it makes sense that this Intel one [probably] has a different DAC considering you're talking about an entire system on a chip. The camera, however is independent and has nothing to do with the SoC. So if Motorola decided to use a lesser quality camera on the i than the M, that was an independent decision.
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You're talking about Exynos 4412.
Don't confuse it with 4210 which has the worst audio chips ever made in mankind. (Yamaha)
Livebyte said:
You're talking about Exynos 4412.
Don't confuse it with 4210 which has the worst audio chips ever made in mankind. (Yamaha)
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I'm talking about the current-gen model. I've had the Epic 4G Touch when I was on Sprint (it had the Exynos 4210) and yes it was really bad (flat-sounding). I was trying to illustrate a point though.
maybe not quite as techincal as the gsmarena review but certainly not a 'poor' camera here
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/smartphones/1294792/motorola-razr-i
Can anyone that owns the Razr i please comment on the audio quality? I'm planning on buying this phone, but I listen to music on my phone for hours every day and am buying a new phone, because the audio connector on my Desire is bust. I'm only interested in the sound quality through headphones.
i've just compared it to the gnex. not great i'm afraid. quite a bit of 'hiss'. a few seconds after play comes to a stop, you'll hear a nasty 'clicking off' sound. not quite sure what it is but it is not there on the gnex. i really wanted to love this phone but audio quality is a let down. for that reason alone, i'll be sticking with my gnex and returning the i tomorrow
You've got to be kidding me, how hard can it be to get this right.
I disagree. I am not an audiophile but I find the sound pretty much as good as any other device I have had. There is hiss when not listening to anything but it seems to go away when I am listening to something.
Anyway, I really think its ok.
The Jones said:
There is hiss when not listening to anything but it seems to go away when I am listening to something
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that is true, you'll only notice it on quiet areas of songs. but those same areas have no hiss at all on the gnex. i'm not trying to big up the gnex here but quality of audio output via headphones is pretty important to me and the hiss i find is unacceptable
Honestly I haven't noticed a hiss when listening to things. I mainly listen to podcasts which have lots of quiet sections and little music. I will turn my ears to the potential hiss next time my headphones are plugged in.
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Just got my new XT890. Excellent phone. Have played some MP3s and haven't noticed any problem till now. This phone has much better sound quality than my previous Huawei. Also the results of sound measurement in gsmarena review are similar to those of HTC One X review:
I think the methods of sound quality measurements aren't very accurate and strongly depends on the environment, measuring equipment and event on the specific phone unit (I think such type of benchmarks should be repeated on several units to control convergence of results).
MotoXT890 said:
Just got my new XT890. Excellent phone. Have played some MP3s and haven't noticed any problem till now. This phone has much better sound quality than my previous Huawei. Also the results of sound measurement in gsmarena review are similar to those of HTC One X review:
I think the methods of sound quality measurements aren't very accurate and strongly depends on the environment, measuring equipment and event on the specific phone unit (I think such type of benchmarks should be repeated on several units to control convergence of results).
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I'm not scientific with my sound reviews but from my personal experience my XT912 RAZR sounded "meh" quality.
My HTC One S sounded great, probably because of the whole Beats thing.
My RAZR i is on par with my HTC One S for sound quality.
This is all done from me driving around in my '97 Olds with a Cassette to MP3 adapter so take it with a grain of salt... but I am happy with the quality
Nice name by the way
Could it be, that only some handsets are affected? Because a few people complain about the quality, and a few say it's completely fine. And only one reviewer mentioned the problem. I had the obnoxious clicking sound when a track stopped on the Desire aswell, and I would really love, if the Razr i wouldn't have that problem. Could a beter set of headphones help? Me buying this phone is riding on this, because I really love it so far, a compact all-rounder, that has a lovely design, and is something special.
alpha beta gaga said:
i've just compared it to the gnex. not great i'm afraid. quite a bit of 'hiss'. a few seconds after play comes to a stop, you'll hear a nasty 'clicking off' sound. not quite sure what it is but it is not there on the gnex. i really wanted to love this phone but audio quality is a let down. for that reason alone, i'll be sticking with my gnex and returning the i tomorrow
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update: the tables have turned! i had a 2nd razr i delivered over the weekend. this unit has no noticeable 'hiss' as described above. not sure if the 1st unit was defective or something moto have amended in newer batches? either way i'm more than happy with the audio quality now on the replacement razr i and can fully recommend it to others. i'll be keeping the razr and returning the gnex yes the gnex is still marginally ahead audio quality wise. but the trade off with having a device that can store my entire music collection on removeable sd vs slightly lesser audio performance is well worth it imo.
both units were from reputable online retailers.
Oh dreaded Moto! Defy speaker problem repeats itself? Can you check serial numbers (and other info) on the stickers on both boxes? Perhaps they've different manufacturing dates.
it is not the loudspeaker. i'm talking about listening with headphones. i'll look at the boxes later at post back
Yeah, Defy problem wasn't exactly this one, but it was massive and annoying and moto had to admit the issue later.
alpha beta gaga said:
it is not the loudspeaker. i'm talking about listening with headphones. i'll look at the boxes later at post back
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& what serial number it has?

Headphone Output Quality

I'm coming from a Oneplus One a much better phone for music than my poor old Galaxy S2. How does the Oneplus 3 do compared to its predecessor's? Is it loud, undistorted, have a good range in its built-in DAC for the 3.5mm Jack?
Thanks-
JJ
I haven't got mine yet although from all the reviews i've seen they say the earphone quality is good
It sound really good in my opinion. Even better than my Samsung GT I9000
Yes, with sony headphone the quality is very good
TED
maxl96 said:
It sound really good in my optionion. Even better than my Samsung GT I9000
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No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
Loving the sound from my Xiaomi Mi Piston 3 on my Oneplus 3..!
It easily tops the quality and power of the Nexus 6. My completely stock OP3 sounds just as good and loud as my rooted N6 using Viper4Android.
Not bad at all, much better than my Nexus 5X.
Sound quality is good and I was a bit worried when I got mine. Coming from a Huawei P8, which I found to be great, I have been very happy with OP3.
I use Neutron player and after I took time to disable some features and enable others, I am very pleased. Output is loud and clear makes my earbuds boom nicely. Overall, no complaints at all. Speaker volume on the other hand... not as good as I'd like.
But, headphone, for me anyway, is most important.
R3Lax1 said:
No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
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Thats exactly what i was thinking
R3Lax1 said:
No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
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Mulayan said:
Thats exactly what i was thinking
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Right, so you clearly have no idea :laugh:
Maybe you should look up the Wolfson WM8994
maxl96 said:
Right, so you clearly have no idea :laugh:
Maybe you should look up the Wolfson WM8994
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We are talking about normal Android devices and not some piece of sh*t you found somewhere on the Internet...
Mulayan said:
We are talking about normal Android devices and not some piece of sh*t you found somewhere on the Internet...
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Ahem... I think that the Wolfson WM8994 is the audio chipset of the first Samsung galaxy ( am i right ? ) not a phone...
It has the generic Snapdragon converter. Nothing special but sound quality is decent through the h/phone out. When I had the phone I used it a couple of times with both Grado and Sennheiser cans. No real complaints, not amazing. Good enough imho.
We see here again in this thread that many people mean "loud" when they say "good quality".
Yes, the signal level on the headphone jack is quite high. This has the advantage that high-impedance headphones (i.e. "those big ones for audiophiles") work without problems with the OP3 and are loud enough; on many smartphones, this is not the case.
Furthermore, the dynamic range is really good. I.e., the difference between the quietest and the loudest parts of a recording is reproduced quite faithfully. This is also not a given on smartphones.
The actual sound quality (!) is absolutely OK but of course not on the level of more advanced DACs.
The non-audiophile listener with his usual MP3s of pop music will be completely content.
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Ahem... I think that the Wolfson WM8994 is the audio chipset of the first Samsung galaxy ( am i right ? ) not a phone...
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I never said it's a phone. Do I?
The Wolfson is actually the DAC which is used in The Galaxy S and there was an App called Voodoo Controller by Supercurio which enabled really undistorted and clear output.
Wolfson DACs where also used in some BMW and Mercedes by the way...
Finally mines arrived been using it for a day listening with inateck Aries earphones and I'm very impressed good amount of bass and undistorted Highs. Using viper on oxygenos. Way better than my s2 and not massively better than my oneplus one.
hasenbein1966 said:
We see here again in this thread that many people mean "loud" when they say "good quality".
Yes, the signal level on the headphone jack is quite high. This has the advantage that high-impedance headphones (i.e. "those big ones for audiophiles") work without problems with the OP3 and are loud enough; on many smartphones, this is not the case.
Furthermore, the dynamic range is really good. I.e., the difference between the quietest and the loudest parts of a recording is reproduced quite faithfully. This is also not a given on smartphones.
The actual sound quality (!) is absolutely OK but of course not on the level of more advanced DACs.
The non-audiophile listener with his usual MP3s of pop music will be completely content.
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So the sound quality is average as for the phone? So probably big difference compared to good quality mp3 player? I was thinking if zte axon 7 has really better sound quality or just dolby, useless for music 32bit. People say it's noticeably better, but just because it has more bass or whatever, or with dolby on when it can get only worse for music.
Maybe you or anyone else knows something about sound quality, has a good headphones to check it, has some comparison to good portable audio player or decent phone.
I'm not an audiophile but I can appreciate sound quality more than others, I'm using old Cowon j3 player and it sounds really well. Have also OPO which I'm using with Spotify, but can hear sound degradation over Cowon
When it's loud, or has a lot of bass or hurting ears high tones says nothing about sound quality. I would like to know how is the soundstage, if the instruments are separate, if they are heard well not mixed up with other sounds, if the sound is flat or not, you said the dynamic range is fine, that's good.
Do anyone know what sound chip is inside OP3?

Looking for good Headset - Op3

Sound quality is secondary to me, i need a good microphone. also maybe one with 3 buttons if the op3 supports this.
Hastaloego said:
Sound quality is secondary to me, i need a good microphone. also maybe one with 3 buttons if the op3 supports this.
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One plus just dropped a teaser for an announcement on the 25th. Seems to me it's new headphones. Possibly some usb c headphones
I use Xiaomi's Mi Piston 3..
I am an audiophile and i love the combo..!
I think earplugs aren't proper headsets.
I use Sony BT headset, and do work great. But Android BT lacks support for In-Band ringtones so ringtones are awful in every BT headsets.
Joyo-rocker said:
I use Xiaomi's Mi Piston 3..
I am an audiophile and i love the combo..!
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Haha a audiophile with pistons
That's funny
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Framedtrash said:
Haha a audiophile with pistons
That's funny
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What's wrong...??
Don't make fun of random people just because they don't have much equipment.
I agree with the dude on top. Xiaomi pistons. You can't go wrong with the 2.1 pistons, piston 3 or the Xiaomi hybrid. At one point or another I've heard them all and the Xiaomi's are good.
For convenience of mic and controls I use the Xiaomi hybrid.
For musical pleasure I use the fiio ex1 or the havi b3 pro 1.
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What's wrong...??
Don't make fun of random people just because they don't have much equipment.
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Audiophile...
Sure. :S
I tried Piston 3, sounded really cheap. I guess you haven't really heard any good ear/headphones, so you don't really know whats good and what's not.
i use sony mdr ex650 because they are actually good
gro0vr said:
Audiophile...
Sure. :S
I tried Piston 3, sounded really cheap. I guess you haven't really heard any good ear/headphones, so you don't really know whats good and what's not.
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As an owner of a few decent set of cans I'm intrigued as to what a god ear/headphone is to your ears. Enlighten us please.

mi mix earpiece volume is too low

I have recently got my hands on mi mix from hongkong. Sold to me by a dealer in dubai. I love this phone. Out of the world looks but earpiece volume is too low and becomes lower with case on. It's too fragile to be used without case. I tried calling xiaomi customer care uae. Tbey gave me the bad news that it has no warranty and further said it doesn't seem to be hardware issue. I was too eager to get this phone so i got the china rom version. Will changing to eu rom will help. Is there any beta global rom?
Any suggestions, what shall i do?
Hi. I'm in dubai as well and got mine couple weeks ago. Love it so far.
I have tried all the roms and eu is the latest one I'm running at the moment.
The earpiece takes some time getting used to.
fatouraee said:
Hi. I'm in dubai as well and got mine couple weeks ago. Love it so far.
I have tried all the roms and eu is the latest one I'm running at the moment.
The earpiece takes some time getting used to.
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I am not able to unlock even. Where at miui site you plead for unlocking shows a broken image before you submit. I don't know is it captacha?
http://en.miui.com/unlock/
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I'm considering buying this phone but the call volume does worry me a little. Is the call quality good clear or muffled?
riz157 said:
I'm considering buying this phone but the call volume does worry me a little. Is the call quality good clear or muffled?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/how-to/discussion-regarding-speaker-earpiece-t3489500/page2
Some think it is low, some normal. Might be personal preference or cases used.
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The sound is normal, is good.
I wear hearing aids and normally prefer a bluetooth headset for better volume levels. That said, the volume and clarity of the Mix headset speaker is as good, if not better, than my samsungs, Mi Max (sold) or Phab 2 Pro (returned after a week). In fact, without my hearing aids the volume and clarity are quite good. Over the past 6 years I have rooted each of my samsung phones (s2 and notes 1 through 5) specifically so I could edit the appropriate file (mm is mixer_paths in system/ect) to increase the volume. No need (for me) with my Mix. I'm very happy with this device.
I've moved the phone around, and while there may be some difference listening to the middle vs edge of the phone, I find either satisfying and clear.
Call quality and volume was one of my biggest concerns after reading some of the reviews and was one the main things i checked prior to buying. I was pleasantly surprised the call volume quality was pretty pretty good, no real complaints. Very pleased.
It's low & gets lower with the case.
I understand why. Because of the speaker-less technology they used.

Question Mic bad quality

Hi, just yesterday i bought a realme gt2 global version. I have been testing all the functions and it works perfectly, but in particular the quality of its microphone is horrible. I do not know if it is only my unit or if it happens in all units. Does anyone know something? Thanks
Oh man, hoping it is just yours - when I receive mine I will be able to confirm but I will likely only receive it end of the month / early April.
I noticed the same on some youtube video camera samples, in videos it sounds muffled. Do you mean call quality is bad too?
Same here. Compared with GT Neo 2 this GT2 mic is worse!
Paragonic said:
I noticed the same on some youtube video camera samples, in videos it sounds muffled. Do you mean call quality is bad too?
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Yep, calle quality is bad too... Im going to return my unit...
PsyCLown89 said:
Oh man, hoping it is just yours - when I receive mine I will be able to confirm but I will likely only receive it end of the month / early April.
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Good luck... It seems is on all units...
alitopxD said:
Yep, calle quality is bad too... Im going to return my unit...
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May I ask which one are you going to buy?
hermanas_ said:
May I ask which one are you going to buy?
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I think im between a Realme GT neo 2 (It has a good mic, but bad cameras....) or a Oneplus 9 Pro on 550€ (second hand but almost like new)... Its a shame, i was really happy with my GT2, but im going to hate not being able to send a WhatsApp audio with good quality...
alitopxD said:
I think im between a Realme GT neo 2 (It has a good mic, but bad cameras....) or a Oneplus 9 Pro on 550€ (second hand but almost like new)... Its a shame, i was really happy with my GT2, but im going to hate not being able to send a WhatsApp audio with good quality...
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In the tests that I have tried the Neo2 was better, but a little better. Taking into account the section of the cameras (the main one of the Neo2 is much worse than the imx766) and that it is from last year and will stop receiving updates a year before,… For my part, I would wait for the Neo3 or the Poco F4 to assess changing it. It is true that the price of the GT2 is a bit high compared to the Neo2, but if you have bought it on sale I think it is a good purchase, since the camera alone is worth about ~120$.
I also think that it is very valid for sending audio and talking on the phone, it may not be the best microphone but it defends itself. Maybe it can be fixed in an update (who knows?).
Sigh, this is really frustrating. I wonder if the Pro has the same issue?
So if one is on a phone, not on loudspeaker is it an issue or only if on loudspeaker?
WhatsApp voice notes not great quality either, not ideal. Wonder if an update would fix it although I'm assuming not.
Is there anyway to submit feedback to Realme? I'm hoping this is software, seems like such a dumb mistake or stupid place to cut corners
youtube.com/watch?v=4bejshojDpE
In this test video you can hear that the mic is very tinny... But it doesn't seem all too bad.
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Yes, couldn't agree more...
I just received my device and the microphone doesn't sound bad!
I was prepared to send it back because of the mic but that isn't the case.
I have the global version and a quick comparison against my OP 5T its much worse. Theres background noise and it sounds muffled on the GT2 whereas my old phone sounds very clear compared to it.
This with the notification issue a few other people are having I may have to send it back
I just tested the mic and yeah it's not as good as my previous phone but it's not that bad.
Judging by what I've heard the problem is in the audio bit rate, realme for some reason keeps lauching phones with 96kbps instead of the minimum 192 or even 320kb.
Let's see if with the next updates they fix it. The march update is late by the way. Still on february security patch.
Hi! New owner of the GT2, having the same issue. I've reporter it here: https://c.realme.com/in/post-details/1511645176815226880 , don't know if is the right place, but let's hope... Also, please report, maybe it will be fixed.
I did something to test if it's a hardware problem or software related. You can check different audio types of recording using Open Camera from Google Play. In Open Camera there is an option to change the audio by going to Settings, Video settings..., Audio source, and chose which sounds better to you. So, lets hope for an update from realme or for a way to root and manualy fix this.
As I've said before my suspicions are correct, it's the software.
I recorded videos in different audio sources and they all sound **** but in Unprocessed mode it sounds clean as it can be, the only problem is the volume, it's very quiet and there's white noise.
They have to tweak the noise supression algorithm. It sounds like my headset microphone without post processing (noise supression, echo cancelation) my voice sounds correct but there's white noise and keyboard/mouse are audible.
With it enabled, I sound more "artificial" but the background noises are supressed.
And of course increase the bit rate, it's at 93kb. Lol
Such a pitty phones have soo many bugs and issues now a days.
I ended up getting a refund on my GT2as the store could not get the global version and then purchased a OnePlus 9RT. Seems I may have dodged a bullet and skipped owning a buggy phone.
My GFs Redmi Note 10 Pro also had issues with the mic and proximity sensor. Great phone otherwise, but makes it frustrating for her to use.
Hopefully Realme fix the issue.
Was looking forward to buy this. First, the screen quality issue. Next, this mic issue. As tech experts say, 'Dont buy a phone with issues, hoping about future updates'. Might have to drop this phone, and buy GT Neo 3.

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