Samsung DeX Support - Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers

I'm wondering what we will see for DeX support on the S10+. I just ordered the 1TB/12G version, I'm hoping it will drive my Dell UltraSharp U3818DW 38" monitor at 3840 X 1600. My current S9+ is driving my Dell U2713HM at 2560 X 1440 through the DeX Doc.
Anyone have experience using DeX at high resolutions? I'd like to know if the limitations come from the the DeX Doc or the DeX Cable. Is there any chance that the S10 Plus will be able to work directly with displays via USB Type-C ?

Some observations on the S9+ after the update to Android 9 Pie.
#1 The S9+ no longer requires the DeX Doc to go into DeX mode, but it won't provide full resolution with just a cable. The display resolutions are limited to 1920X1080 or 1600X900
#2 You can use a USB-C cable (Version 3.1 Thunderbolt type) to go straight from the phone into a USB-C port on your monitor. You don't need any type of HDMI cable.
#3 If you use the Samsung DeX doc over HDMI, I'm able to get 21:9 UWQHD @ 3440X1440. This is really great, but it's still not giving me the native 3840X1600 that my LG38UC99 supports.
I'm really hoping the S10+ will support 3840X1600 over USB-C via a straight through USB-C Thunderbolt cable.

Galaxy S9+ on Android 9 Pie
I have the Samsung DeX Pad (EE-M5100TBEGUS) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079TL2TGY/
I also have the TOPOINT USB C to HDMI Adapter for Samsung DeX https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DZYLVKN/
Both of these doc solutions work fine with the S9+. I've tried other USB-C to HDMI cables, as well as a straight through USB-C to USB-C cables. Android 9 has enabled DeX support for pretty much everything I've tried. If you plug the Samsung USB-C power adapter into the DeX Pad or TOPOINT device, you get the larger screen resolutions choices for DeX.
I have 2 large 38" monitors.
Dell U3818DW
LG 38UC99-W
The maximum resolution for these monitors is 21:9 format @ 3840 x 1600 pixels. These are the exact same LCD display, just slightly different packaging between LG and Dell.
When I use the Samsung DeX Pad on the LG 38UC99-W, I get a 3440 x 1440 display resolution on DeX.
If I use the exact same doc and cables with the Dell U3818DW, I only get WQXGA 2560 X 1600. For some reason, the 3440 x 1440 option is greyed out.
#1 Has anyone ever used a DeX device @ 3840 x 1600?
#2 Why the heck would there be a difference between the Dell and LG monitors. It seems very odd that I can't select 3440 X 1440 on the Dell?
#3 Is there any hope that my soon-to-be Galaxy S10+ 1TB/12GB will give me full resolution support of 3840 x 1600 on DeX?
#4 Are there any apps or hacks that will enable the greyed out resolutions or hidden resolutions?
It would be nice if the mods here would start a dedicated DeX area.

I bought this adapter https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B07919ZNB4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_K7TECb39R1THT hope this will works !!

In order to use the highest resolutions you need to use the pad or the dock station for heat reasons. Both have a fan in order to cool down the device. With my Note 9 I handle 3440x1440 on my Dell monitor.

Powergeek2017 said:
In order to use the highest resolutions you need to use the pad or the dock station for heat reasons. Both have a fan in order to cool down the device. With my Note 9 I handle 3440x1440 on my Dell monitor.
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Which Dell monitor do you have that is giving you 3440x1440?
I have an LG 38UC99-W and a Dell U3818DW. They are the exact same LCD panel. No matter what I try, I can't get 3440x1440 on the Dell. I've used the exact same doc/cable/adapters on both monitors. Both the S9+ and the S10+ will only output WQXGA 2560 X 1600 on the Dell. For some reason, the 3440 x 1440 option is greyed out.
Your advise to use the pad or dock for heat is good, but other adapters work fine. You must provide power to the USB-C port to gain access to the higher resolutions.

I have the Dell U3415W.

Pushing a monitor that does 3840x1600 from a smartphone is rare. Maybe 5%-10% of DEX users even have such an expensive monitor. I'd say more than 50% of DEX users have a 16:9 or 16:10 monitor at least. Also, the screen ratio of a 3840x1600 resolution is 12:5 unlike the more common 21:9.

Question I have the note 9 with samsung dex version 3.1.24 is any difference with the galaxy s10 samsung dex version? thank you

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Question I have the note 9 with samsung dex version 3.1.24 is any difference with the galaxy s10 samsung dex version? thank you
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My S10+ shows 3.1.29
I do not see any noticeable difference in features compared to my S9+

With the .JPG image attached, you can see that 3840x1600 is not supported.
On a side note, has anyone been able to install the beta version of linux on dex (aka Unbuntu 16) on their Galaxy S10?

Is the s10 plus compatible with the DeX station I know you can do it with just a cable but I wanna have a wired keyboard and mouse too just wondering if anyone knows this is the one I'm looking at getting
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B06XD4S8J1/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=AC8CIVMSTQ5W8&psc=1

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Is the s10 plus compatible with the DeX station I know you can do it with just a cable but I wanna have a wired keyboard and mouse too just wondering if anyone knows this is the one I'm looking at getting
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B06XD4S8J1/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=AC8CIVMSTQ5W8&psc=1
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Yes I have this from my s8 and it works perfectly

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[Q] MHL display low resolution problem

Hi! I am having some problems with my brand new HTC One - I connected it to my 1080p monitor using an MHL -> HDMI adapter(one of the cheap ones from Amazon) and the resolution of the screen is locked at 640x480 60Hz. There is no option on the phone to change it.
I used to use the same adapter with my Galaxy Nexus before, and it would display 720p just fine - and since the HTC One has a full HD screen I expected to use Full HD resolution over MHL as well.
Is that possible? Has anyone done it personally?
Cheers
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Hi! I am having some problems with my brand new HTC One - I connected it to my 1080p monitor using an MHL -> HDMI adapter(one of the cheap ones from Amazon) and the resolution of the screen is locked at 640x480 60Hz. There is no option on the phone to change it.
I used to use the same adapter with my Galaxy Nexus before, and it would display 720p just fine - and since the HTC One has a full HD screen I expected to use Full HD resolution over MHL as well.
Is that possible? Has anyone done it personally?
Cheers
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Doesn't quite work like that m8, the S3 had similar issues, I tried on different TV's and got different results, on my LG 47inch 3D TV i get 1080 at 30hz and on my panasonic viera 32inch 3D TV i get 720 @ 60hz. So not 100% as to why but try a different TV, you may get better results, I personally couldn't find a setting to alter it.
I've been holding off buying an MHL as there was latency issues causing delay on the S3, I didn't want to waste money and get my hopes up if it was going to be the same thing on the One.
I bought the MHL 5 pin adapter few days ago and returned it today because it was simply crap. The micro usb port did not work, however the sound/video did but the battery would get drained fast I could watch 1 full movie with about 30% battery left so I had to charge after that.
I ordered the HTC media link now and will try how that works, from what I have heard and seen it seems 10x better than the MHL adapter and it should since it costs quite a bit more than the MHL adapter

dex and charging

Dears,
As I've lost my dex cable that came with the phone I've been researching online and it says that the 2017 dex station works with the note 9 snapdragon is that true? As I was already looking for a solution to charge the phone while using dex this would be perfect.... Any performance issues I should know about? Or any other better solutions to using dex and charging?
Any help would be appreciated
I do not know which model it is and I can't check right now but the DeX I bought with my Note8 works just fine with my Note9 Snapdragon.
So far I've used two el-cheapo 3rd party USB-C "hubs" (with HDMI out and USB-C power in), both have charged the phone through that HUB. (That is, if no external power is connected, the HUB and devices get power from the phone, but if charger is connected to the HUB, phone switches from power supplier to power receiver.) So, I think the charging through the HUB -part should be ok with almost anything (as long as that anything follows the standards properly).
I have no experience on the official DEX things. (Too big for my tastes.)
angvil said:
Dears,
As I've lost my dex cable that came with the phone I've been researching online and it says that the 2017 dex station works with the note 9 snapdragon is that true? As I was already looking for a solution to charge the phone while using dex this would be perfect.... Any performance issues I should know about? Or any other better solutions to using dex and charging?
Any help would be appreciated
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The Dex Statiom (2017) that was introduced with the Note 8 works just fine with the Note 9. But for roughly the same price, you can get the upgraded Dex Pad (2018) that was made for the Note 9 (but also works with the Note 8 and the S9/+. They can be bought brand new or like new at $40-50 on eBay all day long. It's where I got mine.
Or you can buy a $16 Choetech USB C to HDMI cable and it will activate Dex and/or screen mirroring just like the Samsung cable.
I have the dex station (flip top stand) and it works with with the note 9 no problem and charges the phone.

Can someone try usb-c to HDMI adapter with Oppo Reno ?

Hello, can someone try a usb-c to HDMI adapter with the Oppo Reno please ?
Oppo has added USB-C to HDMI support on Oppo R17 Pro and RX17 Pro with ColorOS 5.2 so it should work with Oppo Reno but still no proof
https://www.facebook.com/opposingapore/videos/coloros-52-screen-streaming/345614832677862/
Oppo Reno 10X works with USB-C to HDMI adapters (link below) so it should work also with Oppo Reno, can someone confirm ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/reno-10x-zoom/help/oppo-reno-10x-supports-hdmi-usb-3-1-t3936891
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Oppo Reno 10X works with USB-C to HDMI adapters (link below) so it should work also with Oppo Reno, can someone confirm ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/reno-10x-zoom/help/oppo-reno-10x-supports-hdmi-usb-3-1-t3936891
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I have mine coming later today and I have a USBC to HDMI adapter so will give it a go.
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I have mine coming later today and I have a USBC to HDMI adapter so will give it a go.
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@sheppy1 Great ! Did you receive your Oppo Reno ?
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@sheppy1 Great ! Did you receive your Oppo Reno ?
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I did! But I have bad news... It doesn't do anything when connected to the TV via a USB-C to HDMI adapter.
I did some searching for you and it seems that in order for it to work, the device needs to have MHL hardware support which the Reno does not.
A full list of devices with MHL support can be found here:
http://www.mhltech.org/devices.aspx
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I did! But I have bad news... It doesn't do anything when connected to the TV via a USB-C to HDMI adapter.
I did some searching for you and it seems that in order for it to work, the device needs to have MHL hardware support which the Reno does not.
A full list of devices with MHL support can be found here: http://www.mhltech.org/devices.aspx
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Thank you for trying ! Which adapter did you use ? Isn't it faulty ? Does it work with another smartphone, tablet or laptop ?
MHL is dead because it use micro USB, not USB-C, the last device with MHL was Galaxy Note 4, now it's video out over USB-C, it's already integrated in Snapdragon SOCs but the smartphone need to have USB 3.0 not 2.0 and software support need to be added from the smartphone maker.
It's weird that it's not working on Oppo Reno with Snapdragon 710 because it works on Oppo RX17 Pro with same Snapdragon 710 https://www.facebook.com/opposingapore/videos/coloros-52-screen-streaming/345614832677862/ , also on Oppo Reno 10x Zoom with Snapdragon 855 https://forum.xda-developers.com/reno-10x-zoom/help/oppo-reno-10x-supports-hdmi-usb-3-1-t3936891
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Thank you for trying ! Which adapter did you use ? Isn't it faulty ? Does it work with another smartphone, tablet or laptop ?
MHL is dead because it use micro USB, not USB-C, the last device with MHL was Galaxy Note 4, now it's video out over USB-C, it's already integrated in Snapdragon SOCs but the smartphone need to have USB 3.0 not 2.0 and software support need to be added from the smartphone maker.
It's weird that it's not working on Oppo Reno with Snapdragon 710 because it works on Oppo RX17 Pro with same Snapdragon 710 https://www.facebook.com/opposingapore/videos/coloros-52-screen-streaming/345614832677862/ , also on Oppo Reno 10x Zoom with Snapdragon 855 https://forum.xda-developers.com/reno-10x-zoom/help/oppo-reno-10x-supports-hdmi-usb-3-1-t3936891
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You clearly know more than I do on the topic! Ha. Nope, it's not faulty as I use it with my HP Spectre laptop and it works fine.
The adapter I'm using is this one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07DCQY25Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So not like it's some cheapo one.
Am I supposed to initiate the screen share within the phones OS do you know? I simply plugged it in like I do my laptop and nothing happened on either the phone or TV
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You clearly know more than I do on the topic! Ha. Nope, it's not faulty as I use it with my HP Spectre laptop and it works fine.
The adapter I'm using is this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07DCQY25Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So not like it's some cheapo one. Am I supposed to initiate the screen share within the phones OS do you know? I simply plugged it in like I do my laptop and nothing happened on either the phone or TV
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I looked the customer reviews of your USB-C Hub on the amazon link and some people tried it with their smartphone (like the Mate 20 Pro) and it's working so it should work with all Android smartphones with USB-C to HDMI support. I don't understand why Oppo RX17 Pro with Snapdragon 710 and Android 8 is compatible with HDMI but Oppo Reno with Snapdragon 710 and Android 9 is not compatible. On many Android phones you simply have to plug it in and it mirrors on the TV instantly so it should be the same on Oppo, but if there is an option it should be called "Screen Streaming" on Oppo, can you see an option to activate this or any other "external display or mirroring" option maybe in the display settings ? I doubt about it but who knows ?
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I looked the customer reviews of your USB-C Hub on the amazon link and some people tried it with their smartphone (like the Mate 20 Pro) and it's working so it should work with all Android smartphones with USB-C to HDMI support. I don't understand why Oppo RX17 Pro with Snapdragon 710 and Android 8 is compatible with HDMI but Oppo Reno with Snapdragon 710 and Android 9 is not compatible. On many Android phones you simply have to plug it in and it mirrors on the TV instantly so it should be the same on Oppo, but if there is an option it should be called "Screen Streaming" on Oppo, can you see an option to activate this or any other "external display or mirroring" option maybe in the display settings ? I doubt about it but who knows ?
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Yeah it's an odd one I'll give you that! And all the screen share options in the settings relate to wireless sharing and not wired.
I even tried my wife's Pixel 2 and while I can't work out how to get it to share the screen via the USB C to HDMI adapter, the TV does recognise it when I plug it in... Which isn't the case when I plug the Reno in.
Sooooo... Seems it's not supported in afraid
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Yeah it's an odd one I'll give you that! And all the screen share options in the settings relate to wireless sharing and not wired.
I even tried my wife's Pixel 2 and while I can't work out how to get it to share the screen via the USB C to HDMI adapter, the TV does recognise it when I plug it in... Which isn't the case when I plug the Reno in. Sooooo... Seems it's not supported in afraid
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So there is a screen streaming option in the settings but only wireless settings ? It seems like Oppo didn't add USB-C to HDMI support or maybe it only has USB 2.0 unlike Oppo RX17 Pro and Oppo Reno 10x zoom, but USB version is'nt written anywhere even on the official Oppo Reno website page https://www.oppo.com/en/smartphone-reno/specs I will ask on Oppo's Facebook page and post here as they answer. The Pixel smartphones are nearly the only high-end Snapdragon 8xx smartphones with USB 3.0 that are not compatible with USB-C to HDMI adapters, Google disabled it on purpose because they want you to buy chromecast but they are wireless and so huge input lag in comparison to wired HDMI adapter and chromecast are even not usefull anymore on smart TVs because they already have built-in wireless smartphone screen streaming. Again, thank you for trying it @sheppy1 ! :good:
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So there is a screen streaming option in the settings but only wireless settings ? It seems like Oppo didn't add USB-C to HDMI support or maybe it only has USB 2.0 unlike Oppo RX17 Pro and Oppo Reno 10x zoom, but USB version is'nt written anywhere even on the official Oppo Reno website page https://www.oppo.com/en/smartphone-reno/specs I will ask on Oppo's Facebook page and post here as they answer. The Pixel smartphones are nearly the only high-end Snapdragon 8xx smartphones that are not compatible with USB-C to HDMI adapters, Google disabled it on purpose because they want you to buy chromecast but they are wireless and so huge input lag in comparison to wired HDMI adapter and chromecast are even not usefull anymore on smart TVs because they already have built-in wireless smartphone screen streaming. Again, thank you for trying it @sheppy1 ! :good:
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Yeah that's correct, here's what I see (screenshot attached).
DLNA and Multi Screen Interaction both onot allow wireless connectivity to supported TVs
Ah! That sounds right hence the TV detected the Pixel but didn't allow for anything to be streamed to it.
Let me know how you get on with your query to OPPO anyway and if you need anything else from me.
And you're welcome :laugh:
I tried it with the Reno 10x zoom. It works but doesn't support Netflix or some other apps. Looks geest works great except Netflix what really sucks. I tried everythimg there is to trie but cant het Netflix to work.

Any good usb c hub with hdmi and pd charging?

I've read some forums that the s5e can be picky with hubs. Any good hub out there that has hdmi other than 1080p resolution, and can charge the device at the same time?
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I just got this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JK9DFKH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_uCV3EbRH1ZV23
It cost $24 and has four ports (1 x HDMI, 1 x USB 2.0 Type A, 1 x USB 3.0 (Type A), 1 x USB-C (with PD))
I have it plugged into my Tab S5e with a wired keyboard and mouse while charging using the USB-C port.
As I am typing this in Tap Talk, I have Outlook open, Amazon Shopping app open, and watching Star Trek: Enterprise on Netflix.
I am getting audio through my BT headphones.
I've also tested this with my Note 10+ 5G and it works great on both devices.
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Any USB Type-C docking station made by a well known brand should work pretty well with the SGST5e
Hi, i use a adapter similar to the one gernerttl posted.
It works with a Hisense 4K TV on HDMI with 4k 30Hz but the aspect ratio is wrong. I have got black borders left and right on the TV.
Does somebody know, how to change the aspect ratio or maybe also the rsolution? I think 1080p is enough and i would like to get 60Hz for maybe playing retroarch on TV.
P.S. on an other TV it is 1080p and 60Hz but still block borders left and right.
Dex works ok
Smart View is not usable with HDMI connected.
I have personally been using this since my S8 and its been working perfectly fine for me https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QXMNF1X
It also seems to work better with my S8 charger then with the newer Note 10+ Charger for some reason. and yes it works with my Tab S5e as well which is nice.

Accessories September 11, 2022 review added: USB-C hub / dock recommendations for Samsung Galaxy Tab S8, S8+, and S8 Ultra

By the way, yes, it is a very real and weird coincidence that my previous updates were always on the 11th of a month as well.
Update 3 (September 11, 2022):
I used the CalDigit SOHO Dock for a real purpose for the first time. I used its HDMI port to hook up to my 4K LG TV, and I wanted to charge the tablet at the same time as I knew it would be drawing a lot of power.
I used the USB-C cable that was included (~1 foot) with the CalDigit SOHO Dock to go from the Dock's output USB-C port to the tablet.
I tried both the 6-foot Anker Powerline+ II and the 3.3-foot JSAUX cables to go from the Anker 736 100W charger to the CalDigit SOHO Dock's USB-C charge port.
I had a 6-foot HDMI cable going to the TV (I also tested it with a 10-foot HDMI cable just to see, and it also worked fine).
The HDMI display worked fine, other than that the TV cut off the very top and bottom of the image, but it didn't cause many problems, especially with the tablet in Samsung DEX mode. In non-DEX mode, I couldn't see the status bar at all, although using my Bluetooth mouse, I was still able to pull the notification shade down just fine without seeing the top.
However, I had a problem with the charging. The tablet was still losing power faster than it was charging, although it definitely was charging some. I played musical chairs with the USB-C cables and found that the short USB-C cable that CalDigit included, which I believe I had read from their website should handle the dock's maximum of 100W, was the culprit. I know the tablet can only charge at a maximum of 45W, and I know that you can only achieve 45W charging if you're using Samsung's own charger that you have to buy separately, but eliminating CalDigit's USB-C cable out of the equation solved the charging problem. Note that I had hardly touched the Dock since I bought it, except for some basic tests just to make sure it worked, so I doubt if their included cable became damaged - and it was still working for HDMI delivery, just not for a high-enough wattage charging at the same time.
I'm currently using the 3.3-foot JSAUX cable from the dock to the tablet, and the 6-foot Anker between the Anker charger and the dock.
Update 2 (May 11, 2022): Ordered the following:
2x Anker Powerline+ II USB C Cable, USB C to USB C (6ft, 60W) USB-IF Certified Cable, Type C Charging Cable, Fast Charge for MacBook Air, iPad Pro, iPad Air 4, Galaxy, Pixel, and More(Red)
Update 1 (April 11, 2022): Ordered the following:
CalDigit USB-C Gen2 10Gb/s SOHO Dock - Up to 4K 60Hz, HDMI 2.0b, HDR, DisplayPort 1.4, 10Gb/s USB A & USB C, UHS-II microSD and SD Card Readers, Bus Power and Passthrough Charging Support
and
JSAUX USB C to USB C 3.1 Gen 2 10Gbps 100W Cable [3.3ft/1M], [email protected] Monitor Video Cable Thunderbolt 3 Compatible with MacBook Pro, MacBook, MacBook Air, iPad Pro, Pixel and More Type-C Devices-Blue
For USB ports, the dock only has one USB-A port (and one USB-C port available when charging), but I think most of the time this will be enough. Note that the dock manufacturer's site has video and charging firmware updates (from a year ago). I did update my dock to the latest firmware when I received it. As of September 11, 2022, v1.2.7 from December 2021 is still the most recent.
Original post:
I intend this thread for anyone to share their experiences with various USB-C hubs they try with their Tab S8 variants, or even what others are looking for in a hub. I'll be getting a Tab 8 Ultra, but it's estimated it'll be another month and a half (~ April 15th) before I receive my pre-order.
Myself, I'm looking for some hopefully not compromised but not break the bank USB-C hub. If a hub had all the features I list below, I'd consider paying more for one.
Features I've been researching for:
A removable Power Delivery (PD - I believe 3.0 is the latest) USB-C cable, preferably higher power for other or future devices, but 45W minimum. I don't like hubs that have a built-in cable. In one way they're convenient, but a) they're short, and 2) if something happens to that cable, you might as well toss that whole device unless you want to start electrically and mechanically modding it. If I find a hub that matches all my other "wants" below, then an attached cable might not be a deal killer, as long as it's a rugged type, and preferably longer but even without being longer or rugged, I'd consider it as a last resort.
Has at least 1x USB-A 3.2 Gen 2 port (10 Gb/s).
Has at least 1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 data port or faster. So the device would have the cable going to the Tab 8, a Power Delivery cable powering both the hub and Tab 8, and yet another place for a USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 or faster data connection.
A gigabit ethernet port.
At least one HDMI port.
A MicroSD port - I know the Tab 8 Ultra already has a MicroSD port, and I'll likely keep a card in it, but I still want to be able to access another one natively (not through an additional USB adapter connected to the hub).
It would be nice to have a DisplayPort as well, but I'd consider a hub without one.
A 3.5mm audio port would also be nice. Not necessarily a deal-killer without one, but in lieu of one, I'd require at least one additional USB-C port of any type specifically for using USB-C headphones, although I'm willing to test my USB-A ->USB-C adapter, which works fine with my USB-C headphones on my desktop PC.
I'd prefer either at least a well-known brand (like Anker), or if not well known, then I'd prefer to buy either at a local brick and mortar store like Micro Center, Best Buy, OfficeMax, or even Walmart if I must, or at Amazon.com for easy returns if there's an issue early on.
We'll see if I've forgotten something in this list.
You can safely assume I've already done a lot of looking already, but certainly not uber-exhausted every option.
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https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerExpand-Adapter-Delivery-Ethernet/dp/B08NDGD2V5 is the one I've been considering. I think it checks all your boxes. I have a smaller Anker USB-C dock, but it has no ethernet and I've been thinking of upgrading.
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https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerExpand-Adapter-Delivery-Ethernet/dp/B08NDGD2V5 is the one I've been considering. I think it checks all your boxes. I have a smaller Anker USB-C dock, but it has no ethernet and I've been thinking of upgrading.
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From what I can tell, that one is limited to USB 3.0 (5 GB/s). If it had USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gb/s) I wouldn't hesitate even though it's got the attached cable - at least the cable is ruggedized.
I don't see it on Anker's site so I think it's an old model - might be from before 3.2 Gen 2 was available. They have a model 341 which is much cheaper although doesn't have an ethernet port, and at the same price as that 11-in-1, you can get a newer model that has the 10 Gb/s ports, although no DisplayPort - only HDMI.
It looks to me that the only Anker hubs and docking stations that support at least 10 Gb/s are their model #s in order of the most expensive at the top to lease expensive at the bottom, with the bolded one being the best compromise that I've found so far:
Docking stations - I think the distinguishing feature to separate them from Anker's hubs is that they aren't USB-C powered (I'll add that to my list). That said, I'm not clear if any of them can be alternatively USB-C powered, or at least do so with a limited set of capabilities.
777 (12-in-1) - sold out on Anker's site, available elsewhere but at fairly crazy prices.
575 and 577 (both 13-in-1) - in stock, but although cheaper than the crazy prices for the 777, still fairly crazy.
Hubs:
655 (8-in-1) - Definitely slightly ruggedized built-in cable, in addition to that cable's convenient L-shape, plus an easy place to plug it into to stash when not plugged into a device. Fits most of the bills except only has one USB-C port, which would be in use for powering it and charging your device. Maybe it's possible to at least use some of the features of the device without powering it separately, but I want to be able to power it/charge my Tab 8 and use a data USB-C port at the same time. Definitely a compromise contender. I wish it had one more USB-C port I could dedicate to data or USB-C headphones while still powered/charging.
555 (also 8-in-1) - built-in cable not ruggedized, so to me, not worth the lesser price. I've used non-ruggedized Anker cables before, and I don't recommend them for something that's going to be plugged and unplugged repeatedly, although I do highly recommend Anker in general - especially their ruggedized stuff.
There is also another "old" Anker PowerExpand 6-in-1 with ruggedized cable, but has the two special caveats of not have a MicroSD slot (only full-size, so would always need an adapter), and no ethernet port.
The Anker 655 and 555 are the only ones with a USB 3.2, though you're unlikely to have any accessories that take advantage of that.
Anker 655 - https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Delivery-Ethernet-microSD-Charcoal/dp/B09MF6TJLW
Vs the one I linked above, on the 655 you lose out on displayport, only get 2 USB-A instead of 3, and no USB-C at all other than the power delivery input. Maybe they'll make a refreshed version of the 11 in 1 with USB 3.2 at some point.
Pluggable makes a great one that has everything you want including a 3.2 A and 3.2 C port - https://plugable.com/products/tbt3-udz . . . . . . but it's $339!
skrowl said:
The Anker 655 and 555 are the only ones with a USB 3.2, though you're unlikely to have any accessories that take advantage of that.
Anker 655 - https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Delivery-Ethernet-microSD-Charcoal/dp/B09MF6TJLW
Vs the one I linked above, on the 655 you lose out on displayport, only get 2 USB-A instead of 3, and no USB-C at all other than the power delivery input. Maybe they'll make a refreshed version of the 11 in 1 with USB 3.2 at some point.
Pluggable makes a great one that has everything you want including a 3.2 A and 3.2 C port - https://plugable.com/products/tbt3-udz . . . . . . but it's $339!
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Yeah, that Pluggable's price definitely is in my "scary expensive" range. It looks like it does require an AC/DC power brick, though, so it's not powered by USB-C either.
I'm definitely coming across some interesting hubs - some even with both detachable & rugged included USB-C cables, but then they don't support any higher than 5 GB/s and/or some other things. I know I expect too much, but I keep hoping to at least find something with all but one of my preferences. LOL!
To think outside the box for a minute, I'm pretty sure I could use two PD hubs, one connected through the other, to get most if not all the features I'm looking for, but I doubt if I'm ready to go down that road of variables.
After bunches more research, I'm leaning heavily towards the Anker 655, at least until/if I need something even better, or something to augment the solution if I really need more ports later on. Let us know if you proceed to get any, and what you think of it.
Out of curiosity, what USB thingee are you plugging in that needs > 5gbit / USB 3.0 speed?
Edit - I honestly like the Anker 555 over the 655. You lose the 3.5mm audio jack, but gain a USB-C for $20 less. Not sure if USB 3.1 gen 2 vs 3.2 makes a difference to you. They're both 10gbit.
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Out of curiosity, what USB thingee are you plugging in that needs > 5gbit / USB 3.0 speed?
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Some of my faster USB-A flash drives, and if I can find an extra USB-C port solution (or use an adapter for USB-A 3.2 Gen 2 -> USB-C 3.2 Gen 2) I'd also like to be able to plug my Pixel 6 Pro into the tablet - if one will see the other properly and be able to access its storage fine.
Another possibility I've been considering is a USB-C monitor. If there's ever a time it would be handy to have an external even larger than the 14.6-inch monitor, it might be most efficient to get one that is both powered by and data connected solely via one USB-C connection. No idea if they make PD USB-C monitors - I'm pretty sure they have USB-C monitors with an extra USB port or two on them. Overkill for just a hub, but would be handy if I really needed an extra monitor.
I do have a cheap USB 3.1 Gen 2 (technically the same as 3.2 Gen 2) male USB-A -> female USB-C adapter. It works great for my USB-C headphones, but I haven't tested its data speed capabilities yet. I doubt, though, if such an adapter would work for a USB-C monitor. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if a USB-C monitor wouldn't work through any hub or docking station that wasn't made with that use specifically in mind.
Pixel 6 Pro's USB port is only USB Type-C 3.1 Gen 1
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Pixel 6 Pro's USB port is only USB Type-C 3.1 Gen 1
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Ah yes, thank you. I think I had read that but forgot. Is there any official source for that information (a link)?
Disregard, found the answer on my own previous thread LOL! https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...en-2-on-the-pixel-6-pro.4350777/post-85815357
@skrowl this is an interesting one, although still doesn't have an extra USB-C port nor a ruggedized cable, but check it out.
Dell USB-C Mobile Adapter – DA310
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What makes any of you think that there's anything in the S8 Ultra pipeline that could possibly come close to testing the limits of USB 3.2 Gen. 1? I think Gen. 2 is totally irrelevant.
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What makes any of you think that there's anything in the S8 Ultra pipeline that could possibly come close to testing the limits of USB 3.2 Gen. 1? I think Gen. 2 is totally irrelevant.
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Although I am motivated to buy a hub as a result of my pre-ordering the Tab S8 Ultra, even if its USB-C port is also limited to 3.1/3.2 Gen 1, I would still prefer a 3.2 Gen 2 hub as there may be other devices in the next five years which would employ 3.2 Gen 2 or faster, that I would also want to use the hub with.
I don't plan on buying another hub for at least five years unless there is a very strong reason to - such as USB 4.0's fastest generations and Thunderbolt 4+ compatibility - if I manage to obtain any combination of devices and accessories that will support the same fast speed.
I can even do speed tests and comparisons if I get a Gen 2 hub, as I have a non-PD/non-charging much simpler USB-C 3.0 hub that I got for free several years ago. For all intents and purposes, USB 3.0 is the same as 3.1 Gen 1 and 3.2 Gen 1, and all three are rated at 5 Mb/s. There are so many factors that can affect speed, I'll certainly be curious what the result is, but as I said, even if a Gen 2 hub won't be faster with my current devices' bandwidth limits, that may change.
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Although I am motivated to buy a hub as a result of my pre-ordering the Tab S8 Ultra, even if its USB-C port is also limited to 3.1/3.2 Gen 1, I would still prefer a 3.2 Gen 2 hub as there may be other devices in the next five years which would employ 3.2 Gen 2 or faster, that I would also want to use the hub with.
I don't plan on buying another hub for at least five years unless there is a very strong reason to - such as USB 4.0's fastest generations and Thunderbolt 4+ compatibility - if I manage to obtain any combination of devices and accessories that will support the same fast speed.
I can even do speed tests and comparisons if I get a Gen 2 hub, as I have a non-PD/non-charging much simpler USB-C 3.0 hub that I got for free several years ago. For all intents and purposes, USB 3.0 is the same as 3.1 Gen 1 and 3.2 Gen 1, and all three are rated at 5 Mb/s. There are so many factors that can affect speed, I'll certainly be curious what the result is, but as I said, even if a Gen 2 hub won't be faster with my current devices' bandwidth limits, that may change.
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Much agree with your forward-looking analysis, and only meant to clarify that the speed advantage isn't relevant to mobile phones at this time. Also, it is indeed infuriating that the standards committee mindlessly keeps rebranding the USB tiers with no rhyme or reason, as if trying to punish consumers and damage retail sales.
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Much agree with your forward-looking analysis, and only meant to clarify that the speed advantage isn't relevant to mobile phones at this time. Also, it is indeed infuriating that the standards committee mindlessly keeps rebranding the USB tiers with no rhyme or reason, as if trying to punish consumers and damage retail sales.
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Yeah, the USB 4 naming structure, even worse than 3.x, is frustrating.
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Also, it is indeed infuriating that the standards committee mindlessly keeps rebranding the USB tiers with no rhyme or reason, as if trying to punish consumers and damage retail sales.
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USB 3.1 Gen 1 is basically the EXACT same as USB 3.0, but it sounds much cooler from a marketing perspective!
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USB 3.1 Gen 1 is basically the EXACT same as USB 3.0, but it sounds much cooler from a marketing perspective!
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And here's the irony: your correction is actually out of date. USB 3.1 Gen. 1 doesn't exist anymore. Now it's USB 3.2 Gen. 1.
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And here's the irony: your correction is actually out of date. USB 3.1 Gen. 1 doesn't exist anymore. Now it's USB 3.2 Gen. 1.
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Not entirely correct. Out of date, yes, as the current spec is USB4, but....
USB 3.1 was indeed absorbed into 3.2; whereas 3.1 had two variants, Gen1 and Gen2, 3.2 has three - Gen 1 for 5Gbps, Gen 2 for 10Gbps, and Gen 2x2 for 20Gbps. Thunderbolt is mechanically and electrically compatible with USB type C, and is compatible with USB 3.1/3.2, but supports 40Gbps.
There's a lot of 1.x and 2.0 devices still in use, and contemporary hardware is still being sold with Type A connectors alongside Type C/Thunderbolt connectors....
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Not entirely correct. Out of date, yes, as the current spec is USB4, but....
USB 3.1 was indeed absorbed into 3.2; whereas 3.1 had two variants, Gen1 and Gen2, 3.2 has three - Gen 1 for 5Gbps, Gen 2 for 10Gbps, and Gen 2x2 for 20Gbps.
There's a lot of 1.x and 2.0 devices still in use, and contemporary hardware is still being sold with Type A connectors alongside Type C/Thunderbolt connectors....
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Disagree, but it's all fruitless/irrelevant as we agree. If not just by mere logical deduction, since USB 3.2 Gen. 1 is exactly the same as USB 3.1 Gen. 1 and USB 3.0 Gen. 1 as previously (hilariously) branded, then the last incarnation of the same tech is the final branding for that generation. USB 4.0 didn't "deprecate" 3.2, it's just the better (and currently almost non-existent) option.
I ordered the Anker 555 for my Tab s8. I know it might not meet all your requirements but I bought it because of the 4k 60hz hdmi output.
This Pluggable Dock just popped up on Amazon. It's expensive, but $100 off for launch discount https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NQQ1G1N

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