Why is the camera cutout so large? - Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers

If you look at this disassembly video you can see that the actual hole is pretty small but the dead space around the cutout is pretty large. Did samsung maybe turn off more pixels than necessary around the cutout?
https://youtu.be/kHzmFPoZbCA?t=7m9s

peachpuff said:
If you look at this disassembly video you can see that the actual hole is pretty small but the dead space around the cutout is pretty large. Did samsung maybe turn off more pixels than necessary around the cutout?
https://youtu.be/kHzmFPoZbCA?t=7m9s
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It's for the notification light.. it encircles the cut out when you have a notification

ingenious247 said:
It's for the notification light.. it encircles the cut out when you have a notification
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From what I've seen the light animation is on the outside of the cutout. And even if it was inside it makes no sense to enlarge the hole, that animation is using pixels its not an actual led light.

peachpuff said:
From what I've seen the light animation is on the outside of the cutout. And even if it was inside it makes no sense to enlarge the hole, that animation is using pixels its not an actual led light.
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Then my 2nd guess would be space to prevent light bleed from the screen affecting photos.

ingenious247 said:
Then my 2nd guess would be space to prevent light bleed from the screen affecting photos.
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Your first guess didn't sound like a guess.

hmexx said:
Your first guess didn't sound like a guess.
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I'm guessing he intended it to be a guess. ?

hmexx said:
Your first guess didn't sound like a guess.
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I like to guess convincingly

ingenious247 said:
I like to guess convincingly
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Yeah. It's the internet way of doing things.
In all seriousness, I wish people wouldn't do it. It makes finding information on the internet so much more difficult.

They need something to do with the S11 next year
'Now with more screen'!

I have an query, Does the Light near the camera cutout acts as an notification indicator??

ArunRocker said:
I have an query, Does the Light near the camera cutout acts as an notification indicator??
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Look around in the Questions and Answers, there's a whole thread on that.

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slight gap upper screen

i dont have a gap on top of the aluminum. but i noticed when swiping to show the notification my finger gets scrapped between the aluminum and glass.. anyone else having the same issue?
depends on the gap, can you show us a picture of it?
Dharkan said:
depends on the gap, can you show us a picture of it?
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no pics and you cant even see it. but it feels it when swiping. you start from the speaker grille down to glass...
ad78 said:
no pics and you cant even see it. but it feels it when swiping. you start from the speaker grille down to glass...
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well then I got the same, probably all of them has the same. nothing to worry about. enjoy your one
Dharkan said:
well then I got the same, probably all of them has the same. nothing to worry about. enjoy your one
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thanks man

Screen Stripes while screen off

The other day I was sitting in front of my computer with my One beside me. I checked my phone, turned the screen off and tried to put it away.
In the putting away process, the lighted computer monitor was reflected on my One's screen (which was off and black then), and I noticed horizon stripes on the One's screen.
I put some pictures below to help you guys understand how I got it, though the stripes are not that easy to be caught with my iPad. But you should be able to identify the stripes if you check out the silver part of the reflection.
(Damn, the pictures are upside down)
It is more like a manufacturing process rather than an issue, and the stripes are totally invisible when I use the phone, they are even barely visible under sun lights while the screen is off, however, pretty easy to notice in front of my LCD monitor though.
Again, it is totally no issue for me (and for anybody else I think, because I do not seem to find a thread about this on XDA or Google). I love my One, it is gorgeous and a piece of art. :victory:
I create this thread just to see if anybody else had ever noticed these stripes, or if I am the only "lucky" guy.
FYI, mine is US 32G unlocked model
there is already thead for this its bad digitiser http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2306948
cihanleanne said:
there is already thead for this its bad digitiser http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2306948
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Thanks. The word digitiser really made that thread hard to find. Your picture looks much nicer.
cihanleanne said:
there is already thead for this its bad digitiser http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2306948
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It's the digitiser, I'm not sure what's bad about it.
There's nothing bad about it. It's normal. On the Xperia Z it is a Grid of dots that are easily visible in light even while the screen is on. Neither phone is broken, and you can't see it on the One unless you really look close on an extremely silly angle.
biffsmash said:
There's nothing bad about it. It's normal. On the Xperia Z it is a Grid of dots that are easily visible in light even while the screen is on. Neither phone is broken, and you can't see it on the One unless you really look close on an extremely silly angle.
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Xperia Z has sensor on lens
cihanleanne said:
Xperia Z has sensor on lens
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oh its you again..
ITS NORMAL...
OK?
http://www.ifans.com/forums/threads/how-the-touch-screen-works.83706/
IINexusII said:
oh its you again..
ITS NORMAL...
OK?
http://www.ifans.com/forums/threads/how-the-touch-screen-works.83706/
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do you know what is in cell touch or sensor on lens is
Well there's at least 3 of these threads actually lol. And yes it's the digitizer. Every phone will have this to some degree but they don't all have the same pattern. Maybe you'll hate me after I tell you this but you can see them very faintly when the screen is on with a pure white background That's what the other threads were about. Not a big deal at all though (you and most didn't even notice them did you? )
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Duplicate thread. Closed

What is these Gray Arranged lines in Note 8's Display?

Hi, please see attached picture.
In white screens you can see Light gray lines that Arranged all over Display with regular distance from each other.
What is these Lines?!
I have never noticed something like that before in my device, it is not normal, unless you are using some pixel off app
I'm thinking eye can't see that. Only under microscope
saidgta said:
Hi, please see attached picture.
In white screens you can see Light gray lines that Arranged all over Display with regular distance from each other.
What is these Lines?!
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Seems like pixels magnified.... Its a normal occurence to see when you take a photo of any light colored screen, but tough to see with naked eye, But if your eyes are seeing them I m thinking your resokution is set to high or your display is starting to go wonky...
I can't see it in the normal pic so I'm guessing it's just how the OLED appears when your super close up like that
OP, can you see those lines with your eyes, or does it only show up in zoomed photos?
sefrcoko said:
OP, can you see those lines with your eyes, or does it only show up in zoomed photos?
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I can see these lines.
I saw it in 3 note 8. Just increase screen brighness to 100% and go to a white screen, so you can see too, But very pale and rare.
I am very Curious to know what is these lines?!
saidgta said:
I can see these lines.
I saw it in 3 note 8. Just increase screen brighness to 100% and go to a white screen, so you can see too, But very pale and rare.
I am very Curious to know what is these lines?!
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Maybe ask Samsung about it if it's reallky a problem ? I don't see anything
hmmm dead pixels maby?
saidgta said:
I can see these lines.
I saw it in 3 note 8. Just increase screen brighness to 100% and go to a white screen, so you can see too, But very pale and rare.
I am very Curious to know what is these lines?!
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I just put my brightness to max and looked very closely at a white screen, but don't see anything like that on mine. If you can see it with your eye that doesn't seem right. I would probably contact Samsung or the seller.
saidgta said:
Hi, please see attached picture.
In white screens you can see Light gray lines that Arranged all over Display with regular distance from each other.
What is these Lines?!
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Is your display resolution actually set to wqhd? Also what is your dpi set to? Font size? Did you just change the display resolution and didn't reboot as yet? Is your device rooted?
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Sent from my Note 8 using XDA Labs
vibealite said:
hmmm dead pixels maby?
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Dead pixel all around display and in 3 tested note8?
The picture i attached in post #1 is from a youtube video, so 4 note 8 was tested and these lines existed.
sefrcoko said:
I just put my brightness to max and looked very closely at a white screen, but don't see anything like that on mine. If you can see it with your eye that doesn't seem right. I would probably contact Samsung or the seller.
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Jus try again with more precision.
saidgta said:
Jus try again with more precision.
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Huh? How exactly can I be more precise with something like this? lol...I simply tested the issue you described and am saying I couldn't reproduce it (brightness at 100%+white screen=no weird grey lines for me...just a white screen!). If stock firmware or a reset doesn't solve it for you then I would probably return to seller or claim warranty. If you tried multiple ones then it may be a bad batch. This forum would be filled with posts if this affected every Note 8.
ok ok if not dead pixels could if be screen burn from lets say the black lines from drawing with the s,pen? (iam just taking guesses)
This problem exist in all note 8s and maybe all S8 s
These lines is very very very pale. Just see with more precision.
I just tried it on mine sm-n950f and I see no grey lines at all. Full brightness with white background picture, perfect display top to bottom.
saidgta said:
This problem exist in all note 8s and maybe all S8 s
These lines is very very very pale. Just see with more precision.
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Again, not true. A few of us already tested and our displays are fine. Hope you get it sorted out. Worst case maybe a bad batch.

[Q] Will turning on RGB for a long period result in issues?

So I really enjoy rgb lightings whenever and wherever they are. As my first android phone was sony xperia sp with 3 great rgb lights.
Now Im worried if I put the light on 24/7 it might get damaged or degrade over time.
Is it like an oled that will lose its red or blue or green overtime if we dont use them evenly?
Right now im on color cycle always on whe the screen is on, but im worried it might fade out or degrate and lose its brightness in long term...
Any ideas on this matter??
Kianush said:
So I really enjoy rgb lightings whenever and wherever they are. As my first android phone was sony xperia sp with 3 great rgb lights.
Now Im worried if I put the light on 24/7 it might get damaged or degrade over time.
Is it like an oled that will lose its red or blue or green overtime if we dont use them evenly?
Right now im on color cycle always on whe the screen is on, but im worried it might fade out or degrate and lose its brightness in long term...
Any ideas on this matter??
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Color cycle? Are u rooted?
tnbt said:
Color cycle? Are u rooted?
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Not OP. I'm colour cycle. Not rooted. Is this not an option on tencent version?
All the rear light is a couple of LEDs illuminating a piece of plastic under the glass. LEDs are pretty old and reliable tech at this point in time.
I would have no concern about using the colours unevenly.
Compared to the microscopic size of the OLEDs in the display of our phone, these LEDs are giant and significantly less stressed.
TLDR: Don't worry about it, use which ever colour you like.
You could probably check out a teardown of the device, see what kind of LEDs they are and compare against a datasheet if you were really concerned.
tnbt said:
Color cycle? Are u rooted?
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Colour cycle is right there under advanced lighting settings in console, armoury crate
I'm using a reject) Tencent version... With ww rom
reg66 said:
Colour cycle is right there under advanced lighting settings in console, armoury crate
I'm using a reject) Tencent version... With ww rom
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Oh ok, confused the color cycle with the other modes some rooted devices get.
willhemmens said:
All the rear light is a couple of LEDs illuminating a piece of plastic under the glass. LEDs are pretty old and reliable tech at this point in time.
I would have no concern about using the colours unevenly.
Compared to the microscopic size of the OLEDs in the display of our phone, these LEDs are giant and significantly less stressed.
TLDR: Don't worry about it, use which ever colour you like.
You could probably check out a teardown of the device, see what kind of LEDs they are and compare against a datasheet if you were really concerned.
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thanks for the info, yeah I already knew about the structure of the lights on the back reflecting on a white plastic
so im gonna use it then, more than ever
ps. I dont really get the rule of life, whenever we get something good we lose something good, as in having shining OLEDs and then getting burn-ins with them...
Kianush said:
thanks for the info, yeah I already knew about the structure of the lights on the back reflecting on a white plastic
so im gonna use it then, more than ever
ps. I dont really get the rule of life, whenever we get something good we lose something good, as in having shining OLEDs and then getting burn-ins with them...
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I remember one technician told me RGB lighting before (For PC) is best leave it on rather than off, it can last longer.. Not sure how true is that though
lavenderyew said:
I remember one technician told me RGB lighting before (For PC) is best leave it on rather than off, it can last longer.. Not sure how true is that though
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This is completely untrue lol.
willhemmens said:
This is completely untrue lol.
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Ahh I see, wrong information given then.

Reduce punch hole camera size

Hi!
One question, any one know if it's possible to reduce the black circle arround the punch hole front camera, and only black it out when you are using the front camera?? It will be great to have a smallest hole! I don't knw why those pixels must be blacked out all the time, if i'm not using the front camera...
What do you mean? The black circle around the hole punch is completely physical and the software cutout only kicks in when the front camera is in use (you can clearly see it when in an app with a non black status bar such as snapchat for example).
if you choice punch hole cut in developer options the circle arround te camera is not centred well, so it may be becose are blacked pixels no?
Finaly! They did it!
Pixel 5's hole punch can be hidden on Android 12
The feature was available at launch for the Pixel 3 XL
www.androidpolice.com
motes said:
Finaly! They did it!
Pixel 5's hole punch can be hidden on Android 12
The feature was available at launch for the Pixel 3 XL
www.androidpolice.com
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But what does that gain, exactly?
Not like there's pixels there to use in any way, so I must be missing the point?
jnss98b said:
What do you mean? The black circle around the hole punch is completely physical and the software cutout only kicks in when the front camera is in use (you can clearly see it when in an app with a non black status bar such as snapchat for example).
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I don't think that's correct. I can clearly see additional black padding being added to the cut out when the screen is turned on. Once off, you can see the physical size of the camera hole is a few pixels smaller in diameter.
iRub1Out said:
But what does that gain, exactly?
Not like there's pixels there to use in any way, so I must be missing the point?
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if you choice punch hole cutout in developer options you will see the black part arround the camara is not centred , so this pixels are usable if it can be moved no??
PuffDaddy_d said:
I don't think that's correct. I can clearly see additional black padding being added to the cut out when the screen is turned on. Once off, you can see the physical size of the camera hole is a few pixels smaller in diameter.
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The actual physical camera hole is a lot smaller than your phone would have you believe, there's padding in the form of black pixels to make the hole seem bigger on screen.
This guy wants to remove the black padding so the camera cutout shown on screen looks even smaller than it is.
motes said:
Finaly! They did it!
Pixel 5's hole punch can be hidden on Android 12
The feature was available at launch for the Pixel 3 XL
www.androidpolice.com
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LMAO, this doesn't reduce the black area around the camera, it expands it to take up the entire status bar!
motes said:
Hi!
One question, any one know if it's possible to reduce the black circle arround the punch hole front camera, and only black it out when you are using the front camera?? It will be great to have a smallest hole! I don't knw why those pixels must be blacked out all the time, if i'm not using the front camera...
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Have you found any way to solve this? I had a note 10 lite and the black ring would only appear when the camera was in use but now I got a S21 FE and the same black ring stays there all the time. I find it kinda annoying...
motes said:
Hi!
One question, any one know if it's possible to reduce the black circle arround the punch hole front camera, and only black it out when you are using the front camera?? It will be great to have a smallest hole! I don't knw why those pixels must be blacked out all the time, if i'm not using the front camera...
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did you find a solution for this .. I have the same issue

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