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As the title says, it'd be great if there was an updated list with the supported device which will be recieving 'L' from Omni.
Gokulbalram said:
As the title says, it'd be great if there was an updated list with the supported device which will be recieving 'L' from Omni.
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There won't be, since L is not out and we have no idea what changes it is going to entail from a device support perspective.
As far as devices that are likely to receive "focus" from the team - Oppos and the Sony Xperia Z family. (Probably Z1/ZU also) - Because of how well Oppo and Sony have treated the open source community, in general, team members are more motivated to grab "older" devices they don't use any more in order to work on them.
However here's a list of devices that are likely to be dropped:
All Exynos 4210 devices (i777/n7000/i9100) - No active maintainers remain for these devices, they've been on minimal life support for two years now since Exynos-gate and the Superbrick fiasco of 2012.
I9300 - No active maintainer
Unknowns:
N80xx - Of 3 maintainers, the only one who remains is Humberto and he's kinda spread thin. So highly likely to get removed.
maguro - This didn't have an active maintainer for ages, but I think one did step up. I need to talk with the team.
Honestly, I'd love to just kill Exynos4 with fire with L and be done with that goddamned hell platform once and for all... But that is only my personal opinion.
Entropy512 said:
There won't be, since L is not out and we have no idea what changes it is going to entail from a device support perspective.
As far as devices that are likely to receive "focus" from the team - Oppos and the Sony Xperia Z family. (Probably Z1/ZU also) - Because of how well Oppo and Sony have treated the open source community, in general, team members are more motivated to grab "older" devices they don't use any more in order to work on them.
However here's a list of devices that are likely to be dropped:
All Exynos 4210 devices (i777/n7000/i9100) - No active maintainers remain for these devices, they've been on minimal life support for two years now since Exynos-gate and the Superbrick fiasco of 2012.
I9300 - No active maintainer
Unknowns:
N80xx - Of 3 maintainers, the only one who remains is Humberto and he's kinda spread thin. So highly likely to get removed.
maguro - This didn't have an active maintainer for ages, but I think one did step up. I need to talk with the team.
Honestly, I'd love to just kill Exynos4 with fire with L and be done with that goddamned hell platform once and for all... But that is only my personal opinion.
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I have still yet use oppo device but from what I have seen so far it is a pretty much quite a kickass device as for sony I main yuga from time to time as this is the only device I got and we all know what happened back in the days of exynos4
iKillCypher said:
I have still yet use oppo device but from what I have seen so far it is a pretty much quite a kickass device as for sony I main yuga from time to time as this is the only device I got and we all know what happened back in the days of exynos4
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What do you guys hate Exynos for? Kernel Sources?
Gokulbalram said:
What do you guys hate Exynos for? Kernel Sources?
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https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AndrewDodd/posts/cdPnNjLAb4F
chasmodo said:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AndrewDodd/posts/cdPnNjLAb4F
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Oh wow, even MediaTek is getting better. Meanwhile, this Bull****.
So @Entropy512, I read all the 100 posts, and I finally understand you.
Gokulbalram said:
Oh wow, even MediaTek is getting better. Meanwhile, this Bull****.
So @Entropy512, I read all the 100 posts, and I finally understand you.
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As bad as Exynos is... MTK manages to actually be significantly worse.
Even if you have complete access to all of the source they give to an OEM (let's just say I've seen a complete leak for one MT6589 device), it's still a blob-ridden disorganized mess.
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As bad as Exynos is... MTK manages to actually be significantly worse.
Even if you have complete access to all of the source they give to an OEM (let's just say I've seen a complete leak for one MT6589 device), it's still a blob-ridden disorganized mess.
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There's only one source for a MediaTek chipset, the one in Android One. At least MediaTek is getting better, they're taking steps.
Hi OmniROM devs,
While waiting for Lollipop to arrive, can you please get around to updating the yuga kernel and blobs? There's no point of Sony going to the trouble of publishing the up-to-date kernel sources if the roms are not going to take advantage of it.
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There won't be, since L is not out and we have no idea what changes it is going to entail from a device support perspective.
As far as devices that are likely to receive "focus" from the team - Oppos and the Sony Xperia Z family. (Probably Z1/ZU also) - Because of how well Oppo and Sony have treated the open source community, in general, team members are more motivated to grab "older" devices they don't use any more in order to work on them.
However here's a list of devices that are likely to be dropped:
All Exynos 4210 devices (i777/n7000/i9100) - No active maintainers remain for these devices, they've been on minimal life support for two years now since Exynos-gate and the Superbrick fiasco of 2012.
I9300 - No active maintainer
Unknowns:
N80xx - Of 3 maintainers, the only one who remains is Humberto and he's kinda spread thin. So highly likely to get removed.
maguro - This didn't have an active maintainer for ages, but I think one did step up. I need to talk with the team.
Honestly, I'd love to just kill Exynos4 with fire with L and be done with that goddamned hell platform once and for all... But that is only my personal opinion.
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S2/S3/Note take a huge percentage in the download counts of any custom ROMs
it's a bad platform... But there is still lots of users using them regularly... Hopefully you guys can give us some L builds... I won't be that sad if you stopped since I know how hard it's to still even offer us some builds for KitKat...
Thanks..
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S2/S3/Note take a huge percentage in the download counts of any custom ROMs
it's a bad platform... But there is still lots of users using them regularly... Hopefully you guys can give us some L builds... I won't be that sad if you stopped since I know how hard it's to still even offer us some builds for KitKat...
Thanks..
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https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AndrewDodd/posts/cdPnNjLAb4F
Even I own an S3, but after reading this, I really wouldnt be pissed to see it being dropped
Gokulbalram said:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AndrewDodd/posts/cdPnNjLAb4F
Even I own an S3, but after reading this, I really wouldnt be pissed to see it being dropped
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Yea, I know I already said that I won't be sad to see it getting dropped..
Last week, jakew02 said that he's going to drop support for Galaxy S4 LTE (jflte) when Lollipop arrived. He's leaving the source up, but OmniROM Lollipop on the S4 will need a new maintainer.
The key message here is that the core team can't maintain every device!
As much as we hate to remove devices, there will be a significant number removed, if there's no active maintainer for it. No device will be enabled for L nightlies (and thus official support) if there's nobody active and competent who is maintaining it.
If you've always wanted to get involved, now really is the time - L is upon us, and good things are happening
Going forward, if there is sufficient interest from the community (i.e. go out there and talk to devs and contributors from other projects please!), we are more than happy to facilitate making the 4.4 branch of Omni an ongoing project.
For this to work though, it would require enough developers to come together on legacy devices to make it viable. With new major Android versions, a lot of custom ROMs simply don't continue support for devices "left behind", but we're willing to try this out as an experiment. If there are sufficient (experienced) developers, we'll have 4.4 as an active project which will accept features and patches as normal.
For this to work though, it does require everyone to play their part - we'll need reliable people to review and approve changes etc, as well as active maintainers for devices.
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Hi OmniROM devs,
While waiting for Lollipop to arrive, can you please get around to updating the yuga kernel and blobs? There's no point of Sony going to the trouble of publishing the up-to-date kernel sources if the roms are not going to take advantage of it.
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Hi,
that's not really necessary if you ask me. We could always bring the kernel in sync with CAF, but that's it. This is also what OEMs do when updating their kernels (apart from fixes and such). Jerpelea, a Sony Mobile developer, agrees (see this post).
Also there aren't many "active" Xperia fusion3 (Z, ZL, Tablet Z) maintainers at the moment , and I haven't had enough time for such things.
BUT: Contributions are always welcome.
Help
I don't know much of anything about developing but am fairly competent and comfortable with flashing ROM's and kernels. I own an N5, and would be willing to help however possible.
Hunter1998 said:
I don't know much of anything about developing but am fairly competent and comfortable with flashing ROM's and kernels. I own an N5, and would be willing to help however possible.
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In that case - file bugreports in JIRA, since your device does have a maintainer. One does not gain the skills to be a maintainer overnight. Most people I know, including myself were "co-maintainers" (assisting with bringup but not solo) on devices for a year or more before their first time "flying solo".
Entropy512 said:
In that case - file bugreports in JIRA, since your device does have a maintainer. One does not gain the skills to be a maintainer overnight. Most people I know, including myself were "co-maintainers" (assisting with bringup but not solo) on devices for a year or more before their first time "flying solo".
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I became one overnight ._. (Nowhere near a skilled maintainer though.) I only know how to compile. Nothing other than that :/
lg e450
sorry if this the wrong thread to post.
I have an old lg e450(mtk 6575), and all the sources has been released by lg. Can anything be done to make this device alive?
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In that case - file bugreports in JIRA, since your device does have a maintainer. One does not gain the skills to be a maintainer overnight. Most people I know, including myself were "co-maintainers" (assisting with bringup but not solo) on devices for a year or more before their first time "flying solo".
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Who do I need to contact to help?
hi
just wanted to know if anyone would be intersted to see lineage os (cyanogenmod 14) based on android 7 nougat running on t713
Notice: this is just a poll and it's not a promise from me to work on it , i just want to know how many intersted in it (if any)
Thanks for asking. This great device really needs some love.
Thanks for asking. This great device really needs some love.
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Thanks for asking. This great device really needs some love.
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Yw I agree specially with the new qcom cpu things should be better for the development as now it will have a better chance for stable roms, let's see how many intersted in it..
If there is one I am ready to ditch my warranty for it
You have my vote too.
I have the t-813 variant but from my knowledge t813 would benefit from a t-713 custom rom!
varben said:
You have my vote too.
I have the t-813 variant but from my knowledge t813 would benefit from a t-713 custom rom!
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Great we have 9 votes now
Just let me know if you need an Alpha tester. Count me in....
Dekan54 said:
Just let me know if you need an Alpha tester. Count me in....
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Thanks i will keep u up with any news
messi2050 said:
hi
just wanted to know if anyone would be intersted to see lineage os (cyanogenmod 14) based on android 7 nougat running on t713
Notice: this is just a poll and it's not a promise from me to work on it , i just want to know how many intersted in it (if any)
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I'm interested and I'd be happy to help test too.
How many votes are you expecting? Just curious
You'll definitely have more supporters/users than those participating in the poll
varben said:
How many votes are you expecting? Just curious
You'll definitely have more supporters/users than those participating in the poll
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35 votes should be good enough, creating a tree for a new device requires much time/effort and too many debugging to maintain a final stable build , i worked before on projects where only few were intersted in my work and the other were downloading in the background without even hitting the thanks button, it's why I'm using a poll this time..
messi2050 said:
35 votes should be good enough, creating a tree for a new device requires much time/effort and too many debugging to maintain a final stable build , i worked before on projects where only few were intersted in my work and the other were downloading in the background without even hitting the thanks button, it's why I'm using a poll this time..
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I hope this will get the 35 votes, and hopefully more than that.
And thanks for thinking about supporting this great tablet!
Ps almost half way through!
I would be very interested in seeing lineage os for the T813. :good::good::good::good::good:
Bitte bitte! Danke!
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hi
just wanted to know if anyone would be interested to see lineage os (cyanogenmod 14) based on android 7 nougat running on t713
Notice: this is just a poll and it's not a promise from me to work on it , i just want to know how many interested in it (if any)
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I am! It would be great because the T813 is hopefully the next one and I am waiting for it for months. I already lost my warranty because I did not checked it an thought it was a gts210wifi - bäm ... error ... and I had to learn that it was another (newer) tablet. I tried myself as much as I can, but I am a noob and need someone for help. My tablet is in a deep sleep and needs the lineage kiss to awake from the presumed dead.
You are right, it is not okay, the ones who make all these efforts and progress in the world of open source are not compensated enough. Only download it and never seen again. I hope at least the number of downloads and the huge amount of people you help, will be motivating you.
Ein dickes Danke aus Berlin! If you ask me, there must be a lot of guys out there, that would love to have your help too, but after so much time the tablet was released, not everyone looks, what new progress happened, like me. So please help me so I can use my tablet. (I refuse using it without lineage in the meantime.
Liebe Güße
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I would be very interested in seeing lineage os for the T813. :good::good::good::good::good:
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Ditto to this. I think there as many or more 813 owners as there are 713 owners. Please make this work for my T813!
Sounds great. I'd be very willing to help you test.
8 more voters needed! ?
I would be interested if it supports the Snapdragon version.
I am also interested in a snapdragon version.
200% yes from me! This is a cracking lil tablet
My small team made a decision. We are finnaly creating our own custom ROM and it will be called Android Open Source Dark Project( based on AOSP as how name suggests), and for sure it will have official support for this device and P8Lite 2017, and many other. Currently we are recruiting members since we are too few to make a ROM by ourselves.
News: ROM Development has officially started.
I will not leak too much features now but first version will be based on nougat Oreo, will have a full, true dark mode and will be blazingly fast. The rest you'll find out when we'll release it.
If you think you have all what we need and you want to work with us, here is a form where you can apply freely: Android Open Source Dark Project Application
Estimated release date: November 2018
Best Regards,
Anyone who wants to find out the latest news about the ROM join the Telegram group: Android Open Source Dark Project Telegram
suport for chc—u01?
Enviado do meu hi6210sft através de Tapatalk
Here a beta tester for you. I own P8 Lite 2015 and I am using now other phone as a daily driver so I can do tests without problems and provide logcats.
Luck anyway
Hope you and your team may add hardware nav button mapper(like on aospa and dot os)
Good luck ?
Sent from my ALICE using XDA Labs
My only question is.... Why? Aren't here already 10+ roms, 100+ garbage custom ones with 0 support? Why you need to make 1 more? How will this help us or anyone? Why not just sending patches and commits to other custom roms and use those, or join them?
Fedroid said:
Here a beta tester for you. I own P8 Lite 2015 and I am using now other phone as a daily driver so I can do tests without problems and provide logcats.
Luck anyway
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He is speaking about P8 lite 2017 doesn't work on P8 lite 2015 (Alice)
lokalkey said:
He is speaking about P8 lite 2017 doesn't work on P8 lite 2015 (Alice)
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The ROM will support officially both devices(2015 and 2017 editions) with their latest source codes and patches.
Also, the ROM will be based on AOSP Oreo.
Regards,
D1stRU3T0R said:
My only question is.... Why? Aren't here already 10+ roms, 100+ garbage custom ones with 0 support? Why you need to make 1 more? How will this help us or anyone? Why not just sending patches and commits to other custom roms and use those, or join them?
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were not making a custom rom specifically for this phone, nor specifically for you hun. so if you have something to complain about, make your own rom
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were not making a custom rom specifically for this phone, nor specifically for you hun. so if you have something to complain about, make your own rom
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I'm not talking about these phones, or "my" custom preferences lol. I just asked some questions, and from this respond i see that it will be, hopefully not, another fail custom build based on x rom with minor changes, and than abandoned in some weeks. Check esposito os (or how it's called, seen it from dark.... fck i forgot the names xd).
If you can't take critics don't respond, please.
D1stRU3T0R said:
I'm not talking about these phones, or "my" custom preferences lol. I just asked some questions, and from this respond i see that it will be, hopefully not, another fail custom build based on x rom with minor changes, and than abandoned in some weeks. Check esposito os (or how it's called, seen it from dark.... fck i forgot the names xd).
If you can't take critics don't respond, please.
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I could give details, but since it's personal I'm just gonna say that I don't trust the person who made EspositoOS for multiple reasons.
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I could give details, but since it's personal I'm just gonna say that I don't trust the person who made EspositoOS for multiple reasons.
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No, i was talking to look at esposito os, abandoned or rarely used/updated.
If you make an OS based on x rom and you weekly sync it, that would be good.
I can be tester,no using p8 lite as daily driver
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He is speaking about P8 lite 2017 doesn't work on P8 lite 2015 (Alice)
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Read better before answering please
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Read better before answering please
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he edited his post after my reply
4PERTURE said:
I could give details, but since it's personal I'm just gonna say that I don't trust the person who made EspositoOS for multiple reasons.
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If u have some problems you can tell me all in pm somewhere. I am not doing my own custom rom for you.
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No, i was talking to look at esposito os, abandoned or rarely used/updated.
If you make an OS based on x rom and you weekly sync it, that would be good.
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Yeah man, I am rebasing all stuff, for now it s just a lineageos so I m hard working on my desktop instead of porting alpha stuff on github.
4PERTURE said:
I could give details, but since it's personal I'm just gonna say that I don't trust the person who made EspositoOS for multiple reasons.
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if you think it's personal why you keep asking us helps via telegram then? it's not mature eh.
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if you think it's personal why you keep asking us helps via telegram then? it's not mature eh.
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Okay. You want a public explosion? Here's a public explosion.
First of all, the beef isn't with you, so you should've stayed quiet because it has nothing to do whatsoever. Until now.
You are a great dev, and you did indeed help me a lot when I was a begginer in Kirin development, but that was a month ago when I didn't know anything. And as much as you help and as much as I like your work, you need to make up your mind. May I ask how many times have you left Kirin development then came back? Is that how it works for you? Why can't you try and develop for both of your devices? You also claimed you got DU Oreo working with everything except til, why didn't you publish a beta? And why did you delete most of your sources? You do realize that kernel sources need to be availible publicly for roms to stay on XDA right?
As for the other guy I asked him ONCE for help, and he didn't even reply, so I can't say he helped, I still figured it out on my own. But that guy that you trust so much and protect like he's your son, is the same guy who dmd me a few weeks ago asking me to build lineage for him to publish on XDA.
So stop. Both of you aren't powerful and mighty, and neither am I. This has nothing to do with you, it's between me and the other guy (who asked me to dm him on telegram then blocked me lol), not between you and me. The fact that he even asked you for your help just shows he needs his buddies to go and step up for him because he can't do it himself.
Was this supposed to be a public beef? No. But it seems like it's what you wanted, so here's a favor for you.
P.S how the living hell is it immature to ask for help when you don't know something?
This is all that I am going to say, and I have no more ****s to give about this. I like who I like and don't who I don't. I don't like the other guy, so what?
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No, i was talking to look at esposito os, abandoned or rarely used/updated.
If you make an OS based on x rom and you weekly sync it, that would be good.
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We will work on keeping it updated, don't worry. We don't promise weekly updates, but maybe monthly (ish) might happen
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Okay. You want a public explosion? Here's a public explosion.
First of all, the beef isn't with you, so you should've stayed quiet because it has nothing to do whatsoever. Until now.
You are a great dev, and you did indeed help me a lot when I was a begginer in Kirin development, but that was a month ago when I didn't know anything. And as much as you help and as much as I like your work, you need to make up your mind. May I ask how many times have you left Kirin development then came back? Is that how it works for you? Why can't you try and develop for both of your devices? You also claimed you got DU Oreo working with everything except til, why didn't you publish a beta? And why did you delete most of your sources? You do realize that kernel sources need to be availible publicly for roms to stay on XDA right?
As for the other guy I asked him ONCE for help, and he didn't even reply, so I can't say he helped, I still figured it out on my own. But that guy that you trust so much and protect like he's your son, is the same guy who dmd me a few weeks ago asking me to build lineage for him to publish on XDA.
So stop. Both of you aren't powerful and mighty, and neither am I. This has nothing to do with you, it's between me and the other guy (who asked me to dm him on telegram then blocked me lol), not between you and me. The fact that he even asked you for your help just shows he needs his buddies to go and step up for him because he can't do it himself.
Was this supposed to be a public beef? No. But it seems like it's what you wanted, so here's a favor for you.
This is all that I am going to say, and I have no more ****s to give about this. I like who I like and don't who I don't. I don't like the other guy, so what?
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I didn't say that I'm working on DU Oreo, where you hear that? secondly I'm working on a SD821 that already port treble on LePro3 as my second project after P8L2017 if you want I can port it here, but it wasted time. thirdly I won't be part of ****ty "public discussions" since don't have time for it. At least I didn't "block" you, so be mature and move on.
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We will work on keeping it updated, don't worry. We don't promise weekly updates, but maybe monthly (ish) might happen
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I don' t care about your opinion. I will make this OS, i m just alone and I need help and time.
You ll se what happen asap on EspositoOS.
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DarkJoker360 said:
I don' t care about your opinion. I will make this OS, I m just alone, you and your friend that is giving you thanks every time you talk s**t to me can do what os you wnat with a big stuff. i m just alone and I need help and time.
You ll se what happen asap on EspositoOS.
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I have some of my personal points to say:
1. This is not the place for fights here. If you all fight like some children, well find another place since this is not the good one.
2. Everybody has the right to a opinion and if we think your ROM is crappy this is how it's going to be. In life you won't find anywhere happy guys which will like everything.
3. You should't complain at all since ~1 hour ago you came into our pubilc AOSDP group and started begging my team members to get you in our team. Didn't you say you don't have any time to work even on your ROM? Then why you want to work on another one?
And last, 4. If I was developing EspositoOS I would've considered the AOSDP a threat and not a place to beg team members to get you in the team.
Do not continue your fights here, this is a announcement thread and not a fight club.
Thanks for understanding,
Hi Everyone,
I wanna ask my fellow Zenfone MPM1 users, what they think about current development on our device. With so many Roms indeed there are different options and it may seem ( Few devs have done a tremendous job on this device ) that development is going in the right direction. But really it is enough?
Before sharing my views on development direction I like to thanks for all those authors for big/little mods and those who invested time in this device and generous enough to share their work to our community.
I am a really old Xda user registered in 2009 with this id and but following Xda even before ( when it was famous for windows device), so keep this in mind before becoming judgmental on my thoughts ( Take me as an old guy) I totally respect all the work shared on this platform.
In old time (When Android developers started to share their work on this forum ), we in that time had few primary goals for development like having a properly supported CWM Recovery (obsolete now), having fully working AOSP and of-course having fully working, officially supported CyanogenMod( CM7 is still my best Rom I have ever used on any device at the given time ).
Things changed CWM replaced by TWRP as recovery of choice, Cyanogen becomes dead and LineageOS born... BOOM Today.
So why I am sharing this?
Because I want to highlight a few missing things( take it as a pinch of salt ) in current development equation, not a long list so stay with me.
OFFICIAL TWRP: Current latest TWRP which is working almost, but it still has few issues like sideloading didn't work and no decryption support. A fully working custom recovery is a necessity for any Rom development. We have an UNOFFICIAL TWRP thread which is dead right now, so I don't know what are the hopes for official TWRP.
PURE AOSP: Not tested Pure AOSP love yet on this device, I know everybody wants feature filled Rom with hundreds of features, but a pure working AOSP is really important. It is helpful for beginners devs who can create their own spin of custom roms with (few or more)cherry-pick features on top of AOSP. I am not saying that gives me AOSP right now but I miss the thing that a developer is constantly working on an AOSP base to fix small and big issues in device tree and framework.
ESSENTIAL ROMS: We have so many custom roms and I love to see that, we also have an OFFICIAL LineageOS 15.1 ROM but no major rom of next cycle ( Android Pie) LineageOS 16 or OMNI ROM in development ( unofficial or official doesn't matter as long as it is in development). These are the basic roms with a distinctive set of features and everyone knows that almost every other rom use source of these roms. So stable essential roms are necessary for a bugless custom spinoff of these roms. I don't see any of this in current time, as devs started projects and abandon them quickly either to work on another rom or their schedule doesn't allow to work on that rom anymore. There are few instances that few users spam those threads for the unnecessary feature request, ETA, improper language and this may have discouraged devs to work on those roms anymore.
BUGS Handling: There is nothing perfect and everyone knows that but I really miss that major bugs are not mentioned on many ROM's intro post, they all seem copy pasted that everything works but in reality, not everything works. I understand that features availability do differ on a different device, few common features may never work, every device has bugs common in every rom and can never be fixed. I understand that there is no point to mention those things, but there are issues which are constantly discussed in threads but have no mention on the original post. I am not saying that everyone should do it right now or it is really necessary, but I am sure will certainly help for many folks.
That's it folk those are things I have in my mind. But I really want to know others take on this, What you have to say on my points. You can also throw the above points in the trash if you want and share yours.
NOTE: Above points are not demands but are few pointers for our community to think on, which I think would be helpful for everybody. You have every right to discard those points or correct me If I am wrong.
Same feeling here..!
Yes,.. well said,
Need support for Official TWRP. need adb sideload feature.
Please developers and maintainers, consider lineage 16.0 and omni rom, these two are major famous os distro, but not maintained for our device.
All the points are true and devs should at least try to fix the recovery. I remember once my old device had a problem with Cwm when reboot to recovery was performed the phone bootlooped so a stable recovery is a basic need for development.
Also now a days devs seem to make telegram groups and post their work there by giving reason that xda has a lot of rules, the rules are for everyone's good and if you find a rule which should be changed or modified ask the community they'll help.
On xda devs get to show their skills in front of an open audience instead of a closed group. It's like driving on a empty track vs driving in a formula league. The league has more rules than no rules empty track but one can outshine only in a league.
So try to support the xda community and also have great time. Happy developing.
navjottomer said:
Hi Everyone,
I wanna ask my fellow Zenfone MPM1 users, what they think about current development on our device. With so many Roms indeed there are different options and it may seem ( Few devs have done a tremendous job on this device ) that development is going in the right direction. But really it is enough?
Before sharing my views on development direction I like to thanks for all those authors for big/little mods and those who invested time in this device and generous enough to share their work to our community.
I am a really old Xda user registered in 2009 with this id and but following Xda even before ( when it was famous for windows device), so keep this in mind before becoming judgmental on my thoughts ( Take me as an old guy) I totally respect all the work shared on this platform.
In old time (When Android developers started to share their work on this forum ), we in that time had few primary goals for development like having a properly supported CWM Recovery (obsolete now), having fully working AOSP and of-course having fully working, officially supported CyanogenMod( CM7 is still my best Rom I have ever used on any device at the given time ).
Things changed CWM replaced by TWRP as recovery of choice, Cyanogen becomes dead and LineageOS born... BOOM Today.
So why I am sharing this?
Because I want to highlight a few missing things( take it as a pinch of salt ) in current development equation, not a long list so stay with me.
OFFICIAL TWRP: Current latest TWRP which is working almost, but it still has few issues like sideloading didn't work and no decryption support. A fully working custom recovery is a necessity for any Rom development. We have an UNOFFICIAL TWRP thread which is dead right now, so I don't know what are the hopes for official TWRP.
PURE AOSP: Not tested Pure AOSP love yet on this device, I know everybody wants feature filled Rom with hundreds of features, but a pure working AOSP is really important. It is helpful for beginners devs who can create their own spin of custom roms with (few or more)cherry-pick features on top of AOSP. I am not saying that gives me AOSP right now but I miss the thing that a developer is constantly working on an AOSP base to fix small and big issues in device tree and framework.
ESSENTIAL ROMS: We have so many custom roms and I love to see that, we also have an OFFICIAL LineageOS 15.1 ROM but no major rom of next cycle ( Android Pie) LineageOS 16 or OMNI ROM in development ( unofficial or official doesn't matter as long as it is in development). These are the basic roms with a distinctive set of features and everyone knows that almost every other rom use source of these roms. So stable essential roms are necessary for a bugless custom spinoff of these roms. I don't see any of this in current time, as devs started projects and abandon them quickly either to work on another rom or their schedule doesn't allow to work on that rom anymore. There are few instances that few users spam those threads for the unnecessary feature request, ETA, improper language and this may have discouraged devs to work on those roms anymore.
BUGS Handling: There is nothing perfect and everyone knows that but I really miss that major bugs are not mentioned on many ROM's intro post, they all seem copy pasted that everything works but in reality, not everything works. I understand that features availability do differ on a different device, few common features may never work, every device has bugs common in every rom and can never be fixed. I understand that there is no point to mention those things, but there are issues which are constantly discussed in threads but have no mention on the original post. I am not saying that everyone should do it right now or it is really necessary, but I am sure will certainly help for many folks.
That's it folk those are things I have in my mind. But I really want to know others take on this, What you have to say on my points. You can also throw the above points in the trash if you want and share yours.
NOTE: Above points are not demands but are few pointers for our community to think on, which I think would be helpful for everybody. You have every right to discard those points or correct me If I am wrong.
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Very thoughtful! Resonate the same things brother.
Most annoying - 'Bugs - you tell me' when they are crawling around about to eat your eyes out!!
Oh and the spammers - next level entitlement for free stuff.
Note - Same as OP and with all due to respect to devs/contributors.
Can we request the developer community to focus on quality and not on quantity, found more than 20 roms, but not one which can maybe support OTA and be used as a daily driver for non flashoholic community?
Ie flash once (or dirty flash forever) and forget type of use cases, we had during resurrection remix days.
Other than that I completely agree with the opening comment of the thread.
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Due to the insane quantity we find similar bugs on different roms, that's kinda futile..
Not one is working on lineage 16 i absolutely don't understand why.
I just bought a new ZF MPM1 and roaming around the forms ,i feel like you are absolutely right!
navjottomer said:
Hi Everyone,
I wanna ask my fellow Zenfone MPM1 users, what they think about current development on our device. With so many Roms indeed there are different options and it may seem ( Few devs have done a tremendous job on this device ) that development is going in the right direction. But really it is enough?
Before sharing my views on development direction I like to thanks for all those authors for big/little mods and those who invested time in this device and generous enough to share their work to our community.
I am a really old Xda user registered in 2009 with this id and but following Xda even before ( when it was famous for windows device), so keep this in mind before becoming judgmental on my thoughts ( Take me as an old guy) I totally respect all the work shared on this platform.
In old time (When Android developers started to share their work on this forum ), we in that time had few primary goals for development like having a properly supported CWM Recovery (obsolete now), having fully working AOSP and of-course having fully working, officially supported CyanogenMod( CM7 is still my best Rom I have ever used on any device at the given time ).
Things changed CWM replaced by TWRP as recovery of choice, Cyanogen becomes dead and LineageOS born... BOOM Today.
So why I am sharing this?
Because I want to highlight a few missing things( take it as a pinch of salt ) in current development equation, not a long list so stay with me.
OFFICIAL TWRP: Current latest TWRP which is working almost, but it still has few issues like sideloading didn't work and no decryption support. A fully working custom recovery is a necessity for any Rom development. We have an UNOFFICIAL TWRP thread which is dead right now, so I don't know what are the hopes for official TWRP.
PURE AOSP: Not tested Pure AOSP love yet on this device, I know everybody wants feature filled Rom with hundreds of features, but a pure working AOSP is really important. It is helpful for beginners devs who can create their own spin of custom roms with (few or more)cherry-pick features on top of AOSP. I am not saying that gives me AOSP right now but I miss the thing that a developer is constantly working on an AOSP base to fix small and big issues in device tree and framework.
ESSENTIAL ROMS: We have so many custom roms and I love to see that, we also have an OFFICIAL LineageOS 15.1 ROM but no major rom of next cycle ( Android Pie) LineageOS 16 or OMNI ROM in development ( unofficial or official doesn't matter as long as it is in development). These are the basic roms with a distinctive set of features and everyone knows that almost every other rom use source of these roms. So stable essential roms are necessary for a bugless custom spinoff of these roms. I don't see any of this in current time, as devs started projects and abandon them quickly either to work on another rom or their schedule doesn't allow to work on that rom anymore. There are few instances that few users spam those threads for the unnecessary feature request, ETA, improper language and this may have discouraged devs to work on those roms anymore.
BUGS Handling: There is nothing perfect and everyone knows that but I really miss that major bugs are not mentioned on many ROM's intro post, they all seem copy pasted that everything works but in reality, not everything works. I understand that features availability do differ on a different device, few common features may never work, every device has bugs common in every rom and can never be fixed. I understand that there is no point to mention those things, but there are issues which are constantly discussed in threads but have no mention on the original post. I am not saying that everyone should do it right now or it is really necessary, but I am sure will certainly help for many folks.
That's it folk those are things I have in my mind. But I really want to know others take on this, What you have to say on my points. You can also throw the above points in the trash if you want and share yours.
NOTE: Above points are not demands but are few pointers for our community to think on, which I think would be helpful for everybody. You have every right to discard those points or correct me If I am wrong.
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bro...devs are also humen, they also have life...
they are doing what u cant do..
building a rom take about 10-12 hrs ( if not using gclouds), with gclouds 3-4 hrs(if less error occurred).
they are developing when they get free time.
give them time, not a big thread to read.
And it will be great if you provide them LOGCATS, so that they can look and fix those bugs.
saurabh1234 said:
bro...devs are also humen, they also have life...
they are doing what u cant do..
building a rom take about 10-12 hrs ( if not using gclouds), with gclouds 3-4 hrs(if less error occurred).
they are developing when they get free time.
give them time, not a big thread to read.
And it will be great if you provide them LOGCATS, so that they can look and fix those bugs.
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first of all i thank my dear X00TD's ROM developers for the quick and active development.,
Bro,
we are not pesking developers to add this thing and that thing. we are requesting necessary thing that needed for stable development. every month we are getting new rom project or port rom. but nothing is different.
I am custom rom user since samsung galaxy pop( galaxy mini). previously every community build the cwm recovery (project closed) and make it stable and make it compatible with all the roms. and parallely start developing CyanogenMod (now lineage). then otherr rom developers are uses cyanogenmods sources to build their own custom rom.
firstly,
stable recovery needed. our twrp is still in beta stage.
and still in unofficial release. the following problems i faced, adb sideload, otg support not stable, aroma also not working.
secondly,
lineage os is traditional one and best aftermarket os. and the root for the many custom roms. but we are not concentrating on this os.
nxp amplifier not yet fully supported for current release of pie custom roms. i dont know what is the problem behind this issue. but none of the thread mentioned about it. may be asus not released source for it(idk).
anyone can build rom and fix bugs and release here. sorry to say, most of us don't know this android custom rom development.
and telegram groups are not worth. mostly some guys talking off topics. and i mostly ignore if unread msg is more than 500( mostly it goes above 1000 per day). so i miss what developers told and published news.
anyone,
please make a thread to how to take a logs, because most of us dont know how to take logs.
please make a index thread for list roms and kernel and about their present bugs, last release, current development status.
please make a single thread for noob guide/new user, and mention all the common problems and its solutions,
please make a thread for common bugs in roms and kernels and talk there for what we need to do solve this bugs.
if possible, update possible reason for the bugs
sorry i dont know english much. ya i know did more grammer mistakes.
i'm really sorry if i hurt anyone.
#OnlyRequesting
#NotDemanding
What else can you expect? Phone has been marketed as a mid-to lower middle tier device (price <$200/€180) i.e. it will not attract big (known / reputed) devs. phone was released in few countries so lower economic tier ppl in these countries will flock to this phone....natural to expect slovenly behaviour, rude attitudes in the community and lack of stability and direction of growth for the phone's rom development, since these ppl (students, mostly) have little knowledge of ethics, professionalism, and are likely to throw the device away for the next shiny fondleslab in the same price range within a year. Some devs are there, but the general populace they pander to is reckless, raging, mercurial youth with little respect for their work and little concern/care for whom they offend, so they can't stick to these guidelines as you speak of....after all they too hold some other work/profession as their main job and rom development is just an after-work thing....
Eat whats on table coz you aint paying ****.
I agree with what you said.
I've been longing for a stable Pie LineageOS or stable AOSP for months. But so far it's been no news.
well, it can't be helped
My actual plan was to just use the stock rom (since it was pure aosp, kinda), but since the pie version still buggy I have to use the custom version, which is pretty meh than my previous devices (xiaomi)
DISCLAIMER* This is a VOLUNTARY Fundraising to help @33bca to buy a Redmi Note 8 to bring STABLE DEVELOPEMENT and AOSPA
You can already find all information here, and check the fundraising-status
https://telegra.ph/Fund-Raiser-for-33bca-For-Redmi-Note-8-Developement-02-01
You can donate:
UPI, Paytm(INDIA) : [email protected]
PayPal: paypal.me/nckm
WE HAVE REACHED OUR TARGET, THANKS TO ALL THE CONTRIBUTORS AND A SPECIAL THANKS TO @B1||41DS
@33bca has worked on Many Xiaomi Devices before
He is the Official AOSPA(Paranoid) Developer https://gerrit.aospa.co/q/owner:fabian.leutenegger%40bluewin.ch
His github: https://github.com/33bca
and also a Recognized Developer over XDA
Guys our device is short of pro developer who can develop device tree so we talk to a pro developer and obviously if he develop then he needs the device, if the fundraiser succeds can do wonder to our device
Please I encourage entire community to take it seriously and contribute to make this a successful one.
We must safeguard our development for both Willow and ginkgo.
Here's my donation
https://i.imgur.com/esdcydJ.jpg
Pls do any possible donation there is no minimum limit.
The RN8 community actually took a poll in the telegram groups to confirm members voluntary intentions to crowdfund the device to the Dev, and feedback was overwhelming. As we all agree and accept this voluntary step is crucial to rapidly and effectively grow development for RN8 device, we the community don't just want ROM, or Kernels but Bugless as possible through a real recognized Dev who knows his code, to be safe, secured with open source ethics at heart. I will strongly recommend and advice others members to actively join this cause and make it a success
Remember; It is voluntary and we are not forcing anyone
It's just my opinion but, every donation will return to community ×100000 in the form of rock solid, vivid and high quality development. No need to rip off anyone's pockets, if we do this in a spirit of collectivity. Thus said, lets put our alm on this effort.
Everyone should contribute for this because it make our redmi note 8 more stable on development.
The crowd funding has been a successful one. Thanks to all who donated their hard earned money in this cause and a special thanks to @b1||41ds for making this contribution successful.
Don't want to be rude but is there any progress being made?
ridershahmir said:
The crowd funding has been a successful one. Thanks to all who donated their hard earned money in this cause and a special thanks to @b1||41ds for making this contribution successful.
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vojtah1 said:
Don't want to be rude but is there any progress being made?
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Regarding v development? Yes. Wip on trees.
does dev still need donations cuz i will donate 7 cad if fundraiser hasnt reached its goal yet. edit: i didnt read the title
I'm not on the Telegram groups, so what I say might be irrelevant/obsolete, but woud you guys consider doing the same thing with developer @Dyneteve, if they do not yet have a willow or ginkgo device? I for one would be happy to contribute, as many kernel/device trees I've been looking at seem to come (more or less directly) from some of their work, and they're anyhow thanked in many ROMs I've been using.
What a successful fundraising it was ^^. I wanted to ask though are there now more chances for cameras to be fixed in android 10?
Thanks!
M.Tullius said:
I'm not on the Telegram groups, so what I say might be irrelevant/obsolete, but woud you guys consider doing the same thing with developer @Dyneteve, if they do not yet have a willow or ginkgo device? I for one would be happy to contribute, as many kernel/device trees I've been looking at seem to come (more or less directly) from some of their work, and they're anyhow thanked in many ROMs I've been using.
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He got the ginkgo as a donation from billiads.
Very well.
Is there any other key developer who currently lacks a device?
May I ask who has the device @ridershahmir ?
vojtah1 said:
May I ask who has the device @ridershahmir ?
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We don't know, according to 33bca he shipped the device to the new Dev but the new Dev didn't get the device yet,