[Q] Horror: Battery Drain on EXYNOS N9 - any insights? - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

Hi there!
I know that this is not the first thread regarding the EXYNOS battery drain issue, but as a matter of fact, I didn´t find any hints on how to tackle it on all the forums out there. I constantly get something between 2 to 4 hours of SOT with my Note 9 and I guess I am right to say that this is far beyond strange. My 3 years old Oneplus 3T still achieves something around 6 hours - with the very same bevavior and a way smaller battery.
I´m a standard user without any special usage behavior - mainly messaging, mail checks, some notes here and there and some spotify. Dual Sim active, WiFi active, AOS active, good wifi & data connection.
Here are some repeated measurements (samsung, gsam):
EDIT: Exchanged Screenshots, see below
This cannot be normal - and as I´m obviously not alone with this issue, I´m super grateful for every meaningful discussion on the why and how to tackle. I don´t think that any behavior recommendations would be helpful here ("disable wifi if not needed", "reduce screen brightness to a minimum" etc). I don´t want to mess around with greenify via root or xposed module etc either. This is a 1000€ device and it performs much worse than my old OnePlus.
What do you guys think? is there anything i´ve missed? Are there any hints on how to hunt down some main suckers? Did anyone with an exynos device and the same issue get out of this mess?

brooon said:
Hi there!
I know that this is not the first thread regarding the EXYNOS battery drain issue, but as a matter of fact, I didn´t find any hints on how to tackle it on all the forums out there. I constantly get something between 2 to 4 hours of SOT with my Note 9 and I guess I am right to say that this is far beyond strange. My 3 years old Oneplus 3T still achieves something around 6 hours - with the very same bevavior and a way smaller battery.
I´m a standard user without any special usage behavior - mainly messaging, mail checks, some notes here and there and some spotify. Dual Sim active, WiFi active, AOS active, good wifi & data connection.
Here are some repeated measurements (samsung, gsam):
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This cannot be normal - and as I´m obviously not alone with this issue, I´m super grateful for every meaningful discussion on the why and how to tackle. I don´t think that any behavior recommendations would be helpful here ("disable wifi if not needed", "reduce screen brightness to a minimum" etc). I don´t want to mess around with greenify via root or xposed module etc either. This is a 1000€ device and it performs much worse than my old OnePlus.
What do you guys think? is there anything i´ve missed? Are there any hints on how to hunt down some main suckers? Did anyone with an exynos device and the same issue get out of this mess?
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How old is your Note 9 ? Have you updated to ONE UI recently ? And none of your links work! i tried a few. They go to some upload page! No images are being displayed, and i cant work out what to click as it's in some foreign language!!

N1NJATH3ORY said:
How old is your Note 9 ? Have you updated to ONE UI recently ? And none of your links work! i tried a few. They go to some upload page! No images are being displayed, and i cant work out what to click as it's in some foreign language!!
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His links in a post within the real life review forums works.
If I was OP, I'd start from scratch. I'd also be checking standby drain V SOT. Put device in airplane mode and check overnight how much battery consumption has occured. Then same with airplane mode off. Within gsam app, also check what apps are using what the most via the pull down menu, pic attached.
Also try putting to sleep all apps that dont require your notifications all the time.
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Limeybastard said:
His links in a post within the real life review forums works.
If I was OP, I'd start from scratch. I'd also be checking standby drain V SOT. Put device in airplane mode and check overnight how much battery consumption has occured. Then same with airplane mode off. Within gsam app, also check what apps are using what the most via the pull down menu, pic attached.
Also try putting to sleep all apps that dont require your notifications all the time.
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Not sure how his links are working for you! see pic this is what i get!

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Not sure how his links are working for you! see pic this is what i get!
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In the sub forum real life stories or something he made a post with his links not truncated. Screen shot attached.
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brooon said:
Hi there!
I know that this is not the first thread regarding the EXYNOS battery drain issue, but as a matter of fact, I didn´t find any hints on how to tackle it on all the forums out there. I constantly get something between 2 to 4 hours of SOT with my Note 9 and I guess I am right to say that this is far beyond strange. My 3 years old Oneplus 3T still achieves something around 6 hours - with the very same bevavior and a way smaller battery.
I´m a standard user without any special usage behavior - mainly messaging, mail checks, some notes here and there and some spotify. Dual Sim active, WiFi active, AOS active, good wifi & data connection.
Hi
you try factory reset
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Jepp, have done a factory reset recently which didn´t really have a significant effect Before someone asks: I didn´t use youtube premium until 3 days ago, it´s not the battery eater. Check this:

brooon said:
Jepp, have done a factory reset recently which didn´t really have a significant effect Before someone asks: I didn´t use youtube premium until 3 days ago, it´s not the battery eater. Check this:
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Strange with your SoT.. I tried a few things that helped me really. Just look into your Devoptions and navigate to ''Backgroundprocesses'' & ''Backgroundchecking for Apps'' Read this in antoher Thread here..so if you deactivate things like Bixby or similar..my SoT push up to nearly 7 Hrs and my overall runtime of the device is between 2 or 3 Days, depend on Usage. Bevore i get only 2-3 Hrs SoT and overall runtime about 1.5 Days. So maybve it will help you with this 2 settings in Devoptions.
If you cant find it, i can attach Screenshots, wich 2 Options i mean. But my Systemlanguage is German, just saying. But if you want, i upload a Screenshot. Want to say that the impact for Sot and overall runtime was amazing. You can feel it just after deacitivating a few things, if you look on your Batterybar. Other Option is to clear Cache via Recovery. But this helps not everytime and if you done a factoryreset so far, i dont think this will help.
*Edit* Oh forget to say, you can also put your Always On on activate by taping on screen. So this save me a few % Battery aswell !
Hope this will help you :good:

Heyhey Treasarion! Thx for your reply, very much appreciated! Hey, feel free to add your Screenshots, because - as a matter of fact - my Screenshots are in German as well .
I know about the impact of the AOD (but anyway, thx for the hint!), but based on my experience, that's just approx 1 % per hour (at max!), so this "macht die Suppe nicht fett". There must be another issue....
Hey would be cool to see your recommendations!

brooon said:
Heyhey Treasarion! Thx for your reply, very much appreciated! Hey, feel free to add your Screenshots, because - as a matter of fact - my Screenshots are in German as well .
I know about the impact of the AOD (but anyway, thx for the hint!), but based on my experience, that's just approx 1 % per hour (at max!), so this "macht die Suppe nicht fett". There must be another issue....
Hey would be cool to see your recommendations!
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''so this "macht die Suppe nicht fett" YMMD :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Okay i give you a Screenshot wich 2 Options i mean, and 2 Screenshots wich things i personaly deactivated and are safe to deactivate. So you dont must research by yourself :highfive:
'Edit' Oh hope you can see something on my last 2 Screens..maybe they are too large ?! And for your usage case i recommend you to look exactly what you need and what not. Want to say maybe you can deactivate more then in my personal setup or less, depend on your usagecase. But i can say, that everything work perfect for me with this list of apps i deactivated for backgroundcheck or put in standbymode.

Hey! Thx for providing me with your suggestions - just updated my setup accordingly - will keep you posted!

Hi OP.
Any update on the battery performance?

Hey there,
sadly not - honestly, I'm a bit frustrated at the moment and i dont really know what to do.
What you can see in the screenshot is my exceptional use of Whatsapp yesterday evening, but still: no matter what I do, I can literally watch the battery go down.
Screenie:

Btw: here's one of a lot of issue reportings within the samsung members space. You can read yourself through those 10 pages, all of them are reporting the same issues.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Note-9/Samsung-note-9-Battery-drain-issue/td-p/396961

brooon said:
Btw: here's one of a lot of issue reportings within the samsung members space. You can read yourself through those 10 pages, all of them are reporting the same issues.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Note-9/Samsung-note-9-Battery-drain-issue/td-p/396961
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What u didnt answered :
Do you use Android 9 Pie ? Or Oreo ?
Did it came with Pie ? Or did it came with Oreo and Updated later per OTA to Pie ?
Liebe Grüße

Hey @amorosa,
It came with Oreo and was updated to PIE as soon as the update came in. Running in PIE now!

brooon said:
Hey @amorosa,
It came with Oreo and was updated to PIE as soon as the update came in. Running in PIE now!
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So you had the Problems with Oreo too ?

Actually - i dont know bought the Note 9 used, as always and it already came with pie (to me!). I bought it in January, the original receipt is dated on September 18.

Maybe a downgrade to oreo via Odin is recommended to see if that helps
I mean : You tryed anything else i think

Uuhh what the...did you know that spotifiy is using the accelerator like - all the time? Just stumbled upon this in BBS and a minute of research has shown that this is a know issue since years.
Will deinstall Spotify just for a day and see if it helps. Is just had a day with Bluetooth of - no effect.
EDIT: added 2 more Screenshots. One shows a service calles com.google. android.gms, which I guess is related to play Services. Numbers of alarms and corresponding wakeups are quite high as well...

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[Q] 4 random questions...

I'm looking for a new phone, so if someone could answer these questions I would really appreciate it.
1. Is it possible to change the font size of the text on this phone for menus, sms, web browsing, apps etc.. everything in general?
2. Just something I heard not sure if it's true but, does the super AMOLED really use 2x the power for white color backgrounds than for ANY other color? That would be really bad for web browsing which I intend to use quite a lot.
3. How much does the battery last with only web browsing over wifi and music player in the background?
4. Any tips about Galaxy S or things you don't like about it? (whatever comes to your mind really)
thanks
Well , at least i got no problems with the baterry life at all , i can use it all day with music on and playibg games browsing etc... Also the super amoled is simply amazing. Overall i really like the phone at all points , the only disadvantages of it are the lag problem wich can easily be fixed and hopefully by samsung in the nearby future. Also its knowb that the gps is not working well but i didnt try this yet
be more specific.
the GPS works
the problem people are complaining about is that the GPS is not accurate enough for some people
3t3rnity said:
3. How much does the battery last with only web browsing over wifi and music player in the background?
thanks
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Do you mean 'How long does it last with just some regular web browsing and music playing ?' or do you mean 'How long can I browse the net for before I kill the battery ?'
The first one: the battery will last you just fine to look up a few things here and there and generally be a daily driver.
The second one: A lot less than you think. You will get maybe 3ish hours with the screen lit between charges. The level of brightness and other things on the phone can change this, but seriously, don't be thinking about spending a great deal of time with the screen active unless you have some source of power.
Either way, this is not a problem with the SGS, ALL phones with big screens regardless of os or manufacturer have problems with battery life, at least in the sense that they never last as much as you'd want to.
As for any other tips and tricks:
Check your GPS when you get it out of the box, then apply one of the fixes if need-be. Some people find that out of the box, they either can't get a lock, or there is a lack of accuracy. I got the first problem, but the fix works fine and now I can satnav with the best of them. The accuracy isn't perfect, but good enough. Before I have been shown as driving 10 yards off the road in a field but it corrected within 30 seconds and its not like it became unusable. I have never had a problem with using the navigation. It has ALWAYS got me where I want to be.
Secondly, for gods sake use a lagfix, even if you don't get lag. As you put more apps on and fill the memory up more, you'll eventually get some slow down, so you may as well nip it in the bud.
If you are going to buy a droid device in the near future, the galaxy is the phone to buy. Get one, you will NOT be disappointed.
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If you are going to buy a droid device in the near future, the galaxy is the phone to buy. Get one, you will NOT be disappointed.
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Totally agree , even though still hoping that samsung will bring us a bugless froyo very soon.
Could someone answer the first question please?
Here I thought of another one... Does the alarm clock work with the phone closed?
Fonts can be changed depending if app supports it. I use lcd density changer. And of cause alarm works but do you mean when phone is totaly powered off? No idea
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3t3rnity said:
Could someone answer the first question please?
Here I thought of another one... Does the alarm clock work with the phone closed?
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Not sure how to interpret "phone closed". Screen off, yes it works. Phone in a case, yes it works. Phone off, no it doesnt work. If I've missed what you've meant please clarify.
alovell83 said:
Not sure how to interpret "phone closed". Screen off, yes it works. Phone in a case, yes it works. Phone off, no it doesnt work. If I've missed what you've meant please clarify.
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My bad, I meant with phone OFF.
Well.. that's actually quite sad. Is it possible to make it work with an app or by rooting the phone?

[Q] I need help establishing a wakelock please?

Hello all. I am writing about my wife's Note1 (N7000, 16Gb).
The phone functions just fine except for one thing. At about 50% battery, it will just go to deep sleep and will require a long press power to wake up. Happens with any battery and have tried a few different ROMs (custom and stock). A SECOND Note we have (my sister's; I have a Note2) doesnt do any of this with same batteries and same ROMs, so does seem to be weirdness with this one.
I DO have a solution which has been proven to work with a scientific cause/effect relationship:
I installed THIS app from the PlayStore:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.thedarken.wl
Now I dont fully understand wakelocks, but I reckoned the CPU was going into deep sleep so I set the wakelock to be FULL (see screenshot 1). This 100% solves the problem and the phone is fully normal now, and my wife says she cant tell any loss of battery life.
SO....
Looking to do one of two things:
1. is there a way we can have this app AUTORUN on boot cos she keeps forgetting to run it when she swaps battery (which is once a day cos she is heavy outside house user) and then wakelock not running then phone sleeps! DOH! If autoruns, then she can at least SEE the wakelock screen and press the lock to be active (we are still testing how LOW a wakelock can we get away with but for now using 7)
2. even better, is there a KERNEL I can flash her to that will give me same functionality so she never even needs the app? Something where I can set a minimum CPU level in a similar fashion and it is now a set-it-and-forget-it even surviving a reboot?
See pic2 for the stock ROM she is on now and is great. Given that phone is otherwise fabulous and all else is stable and functional, I would like to keep to this ROM if at all possible so as not to introduce new weirdness. Also, given that this is such an easy software fix, I am not looking to hardware repair the phone as just want to fix this and get on with life.
Hope this is enough info for an informative and educational discussion and looking forward to some good advice.
Thanks to all, and kind regards,
Asif
So are you wanting to prevent the phone from going into deep sleep?
maskerwsk said:
So are you wanting to prevent the phone from going into deep sleep?
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Correct, yes. Need to stop the phone from sleeping so deeply that it is effecttively off now as wife misses critical reminder alarms, as well as phone calls etc. As it is (without the wakelock) the phone is pretty useless. WAS actually my sister's but had to swap and now SHE has the wife's old one. Sister is a surgeon and when phone was deeply asleep, hospital could never contact her so not good. So swapped and sister has wife's good one so that is off my back. Wife's (sister's old one) is here and easier to test out as sister lives in England and I am in Glasgow. Easier to take dodgy one and work on it here.
So need phone to remain functional until such time as battery is dead, like you would expect any normal phone to do.
So need wakelock to remain in force as described above, as WITH the wakelock active, the phone is perfect.
Thanks.
Is the phone rooted?
If so you could flash this mod i made. It prevents deepsleep.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39915561
Only works on xxlsz though
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Is the phone rooted?
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Yes it is. Sorry forgot to mention.
See edited post above
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See edited post above
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Looks like the kind of thing I need, thanks.
Was very much not keen on switching ROMs tho as this one just working perfectly, and we all know that every ROM has it's quirks. Didnt want more headaches with the wife giving me daily anecdotes of weirdness!
What do you reckon would happen if I were to try flashing this on LSO ROM? I suppose the worst thing is a bork and then I just wipe and reflash LSO fresh? Is this just a typical CWM zip?
Or is there anything just like this (kernel or mod) that could be flashed on LSO?
Appreciate your time and help so far.
The mod is in the androidpolicy.jar so i doubr it will work. Worth a try as long as you backup first
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The mod is in the androidpolicy.jar so i doubr it will work. Worth a try as long as you backup first
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OK, thanks.
Before I do, will wait to let the thread cook a wee bit and see if any other alternatives emerge.
Cheers.
asifanwaruk said:
OK, thanks.
Before I do, will wait to let the thread cook a wee bit and see if any other alternatives emerge.
Cheers.
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Bump.
Any other ideas before I try the above?
Thanks.
Just a follow up if anyone is following this.
I DID flash the LSZ ROM and the zip patch and phone still died that night and failed to ring the morning's wake up alarm. To be honest, I am not sure what is going on with it. I have done a 'deep clean' (actually too much and I bricked it and then recovered it! Code Brown!!) and now flashed Slim Bean 4.2.2 to try something totally different and get away from a Sammy based ROM.
We shall see by tomorrow if phone can sleep at night without going into a coma, and then wife's wake up alarm can still ring.
If not then I think it is time for a service.
But wanted to come back on here and thank you for your time and efforts anway.
Kind regards.

After upgrading to Tizen......

Hello, I recently updated to TIZEN and I must say that I LOVE IT NOW!!!! Wayyyyyy more apps, clocks, features, customizations and and enhancements, plus it seems to be faster!! Android OS had Very little apps/clocks etc, so it got boring real fast, not much you could do with it, plus there were not going to be anymore updates or apps added so i figured i would go ahead and update to tizen.. Just wanted to share my experience if your thinking about upgrading or not..
I am about to do this....
StephenLeo said:
Hello, I recently updated to TIZEN and I must say that I LOVE IT NOW!!!! Wayyyyyy more apps, clocks, features, customizations and and enhancements, plus it seems to be faster!! Android OS had Very little apps/clocks etc, so it got boring real fast, not much you could do with it, plus there were not going to be anymore updates or apps added so i figured i would go ahead and update to tizen.. Just wanted to share my experience if your thinking about upgrading or not..
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I unraveled my Rooted/Custom Recovery/null ROM'd Galaxy Gear today and went back to stock in preparation for this update. I was wondering how it is and have been looking for some related reviews, etc.
Good to know a little bit more about this before I take the leap.
Thanks.:good:
flashred said:
I unraveled my Rooted/Custom Recovery/null ROM'd Galaxy Gear today and went back to stock in preparation for this update. I was wondering how it is and have been looking for some related reviews, etc.
Good to know a little bit more about this before I take the leap.
Thanks.:good:
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So you need to revert to stock in order to do the update to Tizen? I still haven't decided yet. I need to read up what Tizen can or cannot do compared to Gear stock and then Null ROM; and working non Samsung phones as well.
I havent played with it as android OS , bought it and went direct to update to tizen , its watch not phone , it so tiny cant do alot , and Samsung Market got most of things i want.If its works alone without phone , you may need to do some tricks and roots for it , but phone always be with ya , play with phone and keep watch stock
didnt find anythin interesting to go android that beats Tizen for That gear
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So you need to revert to stock in order to do the update to Tizen? I still haven't decided yet. I need to read up what Tizen can or cannot do compared to Gear stock and then Null ROM; and working non Samsung phones as well.
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No you don't, upgrading to tizen will erase EVERYTHING as it will also change the bootloader of the watch You'll have to update from Odin while entering the watch in download mode, so again NO you don't need to revert
Hope this helps
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mjrshark said:
I havent played with it as android OS , bought it and went direct to update to tizen , its watch not phone , it so tiny cant do alot , and Samsung Market got most of things i want.If its works alone without phone , you may need to do some tricks and roots for it , but phone always be with ya , play with phone and keep watch stock
didnt find anythin interesting to go android that beats Tizen for That gear
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To be frank, I have only one thing that I really miss and which is kind of a dealbreaker for me is the fact that you can't record more than 15sec in 720p, at least on android you could do 1min, and SVR was really convenient to record without others knowing it lol
Tizen = 0 app, Android = 500000000 apps. I love null rom! Thanks @fOmey
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I'm holding out for Android wear port and have ability to take a phone call. IMO not having this feature is its biggest failure. Yes I could tizen but in the end the wear app store will be where the apps are.
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gingerdude said:
I'm holding out for Android wear port and have ability to take a phone call. IMO not having this feature is its biggest failure. Yes I could tizen but in the end the wear app store will be where the apps are.
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In the mean time check out the app Sprocket on xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-gear/themes-apps/app-sprocket-sms-mms-file-transfer-t2804294 . The Dev has been updating it and just dropped an update the other day, I also have an Alpha of the next release which should be any day which fixed some FC issues for me. Anyhow he has the notifications from the device showing up on the Gear and most of them are interactable like music apps and my remote app. Basically if it has functions and stay on your phone notification, then you can control them via Sprocket. Also on the next release he has the Whitelist so you can turn off unwanted notifications. Right now I have Google Now notifications on the gear. Plus you can transfer files and install any apps from your phone on the gear. And a full sms/mms function on the watch, but it's not very easy to type on the gear unless you have google now working offline or you tether to your phone.
Chris
Last couple of days Gear 1 w/Tizen won't shut off - restarts everytime - have reset, uninstalled/reinstalled everything, even reflashed firmware - any ideas? Thanks in advance
StephenLeo said:
Hello, I recently updated to TIZEN and I must say that I LOVE IT NOW!!!! Wayyyyyy more apps, clocks, features, customizations and and enhancements, plus it seems to be faster!! Android OS had Very little apps/clocks etc, so it got boring real fast, not much you could do with it, plus there were not going to be anymore updates or apps added so i figured i would go ahead and update to tizen.. Just wanted to share my experience if your thinking about upgrading or not..
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I've lost substantial battery life - can't get through a full day now. Everything you mention is useless if it's sitting in the charger.
Avignon said:
I've lost substantial battery life - can't get through a full day now. Everything you mention is useless if it's sitting in the charger.
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I would probably check out whether you have a faulty battery, the general consensis is battery life is better on tizen. My gear rarely saw more than a day of battery life on the stock kernel with android, but with tizen I frequently only use 30% per day.
Avignon said:
I've lost substantial battery life - can't get through a full day now. Everything you mention is useless if it's sitting in the charger.
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I've also just moved back to Tizen and was getting not so good battery life. I followed someone's advice to reset the gear in recovery and it actually worked perfect. It's 200% better after doing that. I also reset in Tizen, then booted to recovery and it automatically resets. I did the recovery reset 2x though just to be sure. Anyhow good luck. And if you haven't done the reset in recovery please try that.
Chris
noellenchris said:
I've also just moved back to Tizen and was getting not so good battery life. I followed someone's advice to reset the gear in recovery and it actually worked perfect. It's 200% better after doing that. I also reset in Tizen, then booted to recovery and it automatically resets. I did the recovery reset 2x though just to be sure. Anyhow good luck. And if you haven't done the reset in recovery please try that.
Chris
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yes - I've done the reinstall GM and reset in recovery several times.
My battery life is worse than the original firmware from last year.
I'm trying to figure out how to get it back to where it was last week with the previous GM and Android.
I also face some problems with battery life. But the problem appears not always. Sometimes it use 30% per day, but sometimes it discharges in couple our hours. Seems like some of the processes drains battery. Any ideas what?
hurdleman said:
I also face some problems with battery life. But the problem appears not always. Sometimes it use 30% per day, but sometimes it discharges in couple our hours. Seems like some of the processes drains battery. Any ideas what?
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Anything that may be using the camera or motion to wake would drain battery. Also I do frequently double tap and hold with 2 fingers to bring up the task manager and close all running apps just to be sure.
Chris
Good day. I have Gear 2 and is on Tizen and my battery life on the stock standard and standard watchfaces is 1.5 to 2 day. I have recently changed the watch face with a nice custom built one and then this change drained the battery within one day. Thus my conclusion, the fancier the stuff you load the more operating power it use and then it drains the battery. Also I had the Gear1 on Android. Android in my opinion use more battery life by meas of operating power.

Apps killing overnight

Hello, does anyone of you guys have an issue with apps killing overnight?
Now I have zenfone 6 and they told me on their forum that this jus just android 10 thing and it is normal that my phone kills my apps night by night leaving me with 3 app alive usually no matter what I turn on and off in battery saving and ram options oO.
So I figure out that pixel subforum will be the best place to ask about it. Thank you for any response .
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Hello, does anyone of you guys have an issue with apps killing overnight?
Now I have zenfone 6 and they told me on their forum that this jus just android 10 thing and it is normal that my phone kills my apps night by night leaving me with 3 app alive usually no matter what I turn on and off in battery saving and ram options oO.
So I figure out that pixel subforum will be the best place to ask about it. Thank you for any response .
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Those Chinese phones with those Chinese ROMs have aggressive app management. Even turning off battery optimization and things like that don't seem to really help. I've had my share of Chinese phones and this was beyond frustrating.
RoccoN4 said:
Those Chinese phones with those Chinese ROMs have aggressive app management. Even turning off battery optimization and things like that don't seem to really help. I've had my share of Chinese phones and this was beyond frustrating.
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And now do you have pixel or some other phone on android 10 and can you confirm that your apps stay alive after a night?
I have a P4 and have no problems with such behavior. Perhaps this zenfone comes with an agressive Kernel, or you can check in Developer Options to ensure Background Process Limit is set to Standard Limit and not specified to something like at most 3 processes.
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And now do you have pixel or some other phone on android 10 and can you confirm that your apps stay alive after a night?
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Have the Pixel 4 XL. Everything seems fine. Apps stay in the background. Haven't really tested if apps stay open over night. My issue was apps getting closed off within minutes of the phone going to sleep. Some apps even required to re login.
Hope I'm answering w what you are asking?
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I have a P4 and have no problems with such behavior. Perhaps this zenfone comes with an agressive Kernel, or you can check in Developer Options to ensure Background Process Limit is set to Standard Limit and not specified to something like at most 3 processes.
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ty, nah it is set up for standard limit I even put autostart on all apps xD and try it all.
I am here just to check if they are laying about android 10
Have the Pixel 4 XL. Everything seems fine. Apps stay in the background. Haven't really tested if apps stay open over night. My issue was apps getting closed off within minutes of the phone going to sleep. Some apps even required to re login.
Hope I'm answering w what you are asking?
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yes, but if you can just take a look at the next morning and check it to make sure will be nice ty.

Note 3 vs Note 4 for modding and in general

Hi all.
Have been modding and playing around with Note 4 and the emmc fault is a bi*ch. If it works, you never know when the damn thing will stop functioning. And the phone itself is always a bit buggy with custom roms. I noticed that several people here compare it to Note 3 and mean that Note 3 overall has certain advantages, easier to modd, less buggy, and of course, is not plagued with emmc fault. Don't get me wrong, i have several units and i really like the damn thing.
So i would like to ask all you who actually HAVE experience of both, write here a line or two, and compare those two. Which one is actually more thankfull for modding? N4 being of course newer, but does it make that big of a dirfference?
Hi, i don't have an note 3, i have and use a note 4, very happy with the phone running android 6.01 heavy customized and with the best kernel (ram Kernel v8.1 never had any issues with emmc or any other for that matter, it runs very smooth with no problems, battery last for a week, standby 0.4% per hour.
Ok. Difficult to make comparison then since you have no experience with Note 3, but thanx anyway.
Sounds good tho. May I ask then how your setup looks like, since having a battery last for a week is really an achievment?
System:
I Installed stock PHN DRI2 Build with ram Kernel v8.1 removed a lot of user apps that i don't need and also a lot of system apps that drain your battery, i use magisk for root and have two modules in use GPU Turbo Boost (not sure if this does anything but i leave it anyway installed) and Swap Torpedo (no swap file that saves battery) i use for tweaks the L Speed app and some build.prop tweaks most of them are from goldeneye rom.
Apps:
I use Ungoogled Chromium, this browser is memory and battery friendly as it does not call home all the time and i don't use social media apps as they are all battery hogs, i have about 50 apps installed and i use afwall for firewall and as email i use exchange push email with stock email client.
I tried almost every rom available for the note 4 910F but all suck in battery or the pen is not working, with a lot of trial and error in debloating the rom i stick with the one i have now, i am running it for 3 years and i am a happy camper. I love this phone with the pen the screen size and the exchangeable battery, it runs for a week with one charge 7 days with 3 hours and 43 minutes screen on, the onscreen time (backlight slider at 1/3 and dark color wallpaper) is about 7 hours in one go and it uses 0.4 battery per hour in standby (measured with GSam Battery Monitor since 1 year). I had newer phone they are all made of glass, no battery exchange and no earphone connector. Long story short, great phone . If you like to have the build.prop tweaks i can give them to you. The L speed app you can download from XDA https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/l-speed.6156/ .
Cheers
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System:
I Installed stock PHN DRI2 Build with ram Kernel v8.1 removed a lot of user apps that i don't need and also a lot of system apps that drain your battery, i use magisk for root and have two modules in use GPU Turbo Boost (not sure if this does anything but i leave it anyway installed) and Swap Torpedo (no swap file that saves battery) i use for tweaks the L Speed app and some build.prop tweaks most of them are from goldeneye rom.
Apps:
I use Ungoogled Chromium, this browser is memory and battery friendly as it does not call home all the time and i don't use social media apps as they are all battery hogs, i have about 50 apps installed and i use afwall for firewall and as email i use exchange push email with stock email client.
I tried almost every rom available for the note 4 910F but all suck in battery or the pen is not working, with a lot of trial and error in debloating the rom i stick with the one i have now, i am running it for 3 years and i am a happy camper. I love this phone with the pen the screen size and the exchangeable battery, it runs for a week with one charge 7 days with 3 hours and 43 minutes screen on, the onscreen time (backlight slider at 1/3 and dark color wallpaper) is about 7 hours in one go and it uses 0.4 battery per hour in standby (measured with GSam Battery Monitor since 1 year). I had newer phone they are all made of glass, no battery exchange and no earphone connector. Long story short, great phone . If you like to have the build.prop tweaks i can give them to you. The L speed app you can download from XDA https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/l-speed.6156/ .
Cheers
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Thank you very much for the offer, but build props are way over my experience level, i think.
Btw, love the phone for the same reason as you do.
Besides, i am quite happy customer also, running @AnonVendetta s version of really bareboned stock 6.01. No Google, microG instead. No root. Not many apps. I probably could get a week out of a battery also with light use that i usually do. But i use Signal, and i just yesterday discovered that the damn thing just chugs battery like mad if you don't have Play Service installed. So with it installed i get at best a days use, with very light using of the phone.
I am currently rocking a Note 3 on Sprint and running Android 10 (Superior OS) and works great. All the convencience of Android with my removable battery and IR blaster (yes I use it for multiple TV's in multiple buildings I control). I use the S-Pen on Squid to take notes and jot down info and even mark up pictures so don't need Air Command. I sync with my FitBit Versa and run multiple smart home devices from the phone (including my whole home entertainment with the PEEL app).
The only 'complaint' I have is the bluetooth. There was a major problem past Android 7 of geting the thing to work. It does now. Voice and music work good. But occassionally it will just drop the device it connects to. I will re esablsih about 10 seconds later but still, that loses the lock on my Jeep radio and therefore keeps allowing the screen to lock. This is a minor annoyance but does need to be mentioned.
I JUST bought a Note 4 so thinking of loading LOS 17 on it and see how it goes. However I see most people here just kept stock Marshmellow. I dunno aobut that... isnt the UI buggy and limiting?
I look forward to any advice I can get!
Hi Dave,
I also use the IR remote for all my home appliance (dvbviewer TV on my pc, living room and bedroom tv and Bose audio system, i use the ir plus app great remote control app and it still gets updates, about the roms available for the note 4 i have the snapdragon version and i have tried all roms but i stay on stock 6.01 the MM version is not buggy at all, it never have problems, hangs crashes or reboots, i use the stock launcher smooth and fast, the UI interface is not important, the apps i use are all in dark mode, for me it's important i can use it the way i like it and it does. NOTE 4 still rocks like a champ with all the advantage it has. If this one breaks i will look for a other note 4, no newer phone for me. I dont know what version you have but try some rome you will see you will go back to 6.01 mm, its rock solid and battery friendly. Bluetooth on the note 4 sucks for battery use but does not crash or breaks anything, i have a gear fit2 pro but i dont connect it with the phone all the time just to sync .
Cheers
Unidave199 said:
I am currently rocking a Note 3 on Sprint and running Android 10 (Superior OS) and works great. All the convencience of Android with my removable battery and IR blaster (yes I use it for multiple TV's in multiple buildings I control). I use the S-Pen on Squid to take notes and jot down info and even mark up pictures so don't need Air Command. I sync with my FitBit Versa and run multiple smart home devices from the phone (including my whole home entertainment with the PEEL app).
The only 'complaint' I have is the bluetooth. There was a major problem past Android 7 of geting the thing to work. It does now. Voice and music work good. But occassionally it will just drop the device it connects to. I will re esablsih about 10 seconds later but still, that loses the lock on my Jeep radio and therefore keeps allowing the screen to lock. This is a minor annoyance but does need to be mentioned.
I JUST bought a Note 4 so thinking of loading LOS 17 on it and see how it goes. However I see most people here just kept stock Marshmellow. I dunno aobut that... isnt the UI buggy and limiting?
I look forward to any advice I can get!
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For me LOS17 was a no go because of the SIM issue and lack of encryption. I saw other having other issues. If i were you and needed something newer than marshmallow, then i would try LOS16. I found that one to be very stable, no issues so far for my use. Will perhaps migrate to that one with my daily driver in a while, when stock starts failing.
As for stock 6.0.1, not sure where you heard it was buggy?! I read that marshmallow was if not the least buggy Android OS ever and that is also my experience, at least on Note 4. I totally agree with @Qosmio-. It is the most rock solid rom i have ever had on a device. NEVER had any bugs, issues or anything. Battery friendly. I find launcher smooth, and run UI in 'easy mode', which i find the most appealing, colorwise and all. The perfect OS basically, if there ever was one. I have heard people starting to find apps that are no longer supported, but all apps that are important to me still work.
but wait - you use PEEL app as remote?
Wasn't that completely hidious advertisment-prone bloatware that was utterly unpleasant to use?
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but wait - you use PEEL app as remote?
Wasn't that completely hidious advertisment-prone bloatware that was utterly unpleasant to use?
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I only meant 'buggy' as outdated and unable to use the full Google Assistant features etc... Thats why I moved to newer ROMS Not as smooth and primitive features. I should try myself before I speak the negative about it!
So let's talk about PEEL.
The magic is to use this with Titanium Backup. I must say, PEEL can be set up to use and manage "scenarios" (Home, Work, Friend's House etc). If you set it up..
1.go in and click to NOT auto detect WiFi connections
2.disable advertising and lock screen and persistant notifications for 30 days.
3. Set up a Custom Remote Scenario
4. Create a Widget for the App to default on Custom Remote
3. Do a TB of the app!
I have found, on the newer ROM's it stays Ad Free.. but if it gets weird to annoying just do a TB restore "data only" and then you are golden!
Ive tried lots of other 3rd party apps but I keep going back to PEEL. It stays ad free and as a remote (not as a channel guide) it works exremely well, is desined well and functions well.
Hit me up if you want more specifics! Maybe I should start a 'how to' thread..
Dave
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i stay on stock 6.01 the MM version is not buggy at all, it never have problems
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Arent you worried about Security Updates?
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Arent you worried about Security Updates?
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No not at all, i protect my use of internet at home and phone ( i am system engineer for 35 years so i know what i can and can't do), if you look what still need to be patched for android Exploits vulnerability-list , every new or old version of android user is @ risk. When connected with my phone to internet via my provider it will change the phones ip address every 15 minutes, i use a firewall (afwall) on my phone and disabled ipv6, i am connected to my home with openvpn to pfsense firewall for internet access and i use my own MS exchange mail server and dns server resolver with ad and privacy telemetry filter with pfblocker. There are things you don't do with old version of android and that is visite websites that are shady, porn websites and browse without a strong ad blocker or privacy filter.
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I Installed stock PHN DRI2 Build with ram Kernel v8.1
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So I did it! I made the jump. I am using the Q15 Plus Tidbits VB3 Rom. And udated firmware. Do you have a link to the ROM you are using?
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So I did it! I made the jump. I am using the Q15 Plus Tidbits VB3 Rom. And udated firmware. Do you have a link to the ROM you are using?
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Wel since 2 weeks some government (tax/digi id ect) apps we use in nl does not support android 6 anymore and i use them often so i had to jump to android 10 and using this rom Crdroid
If you like to try don't download from first page but from here Mega
I use it for a week now (with some tweaks) and this is the only android 10 rom that works and looks great, battery is not as good as with android 6 but i have to accept that, i am not ready yet to dump the note 4.
Cheers
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Wel since 2 weeks some government (tax/digi id ect) apps we use in nl does not support android 6 anymore and i use them often so i had to jump to android 10 and using this rom Crdroid
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I had tried using some Liniage Versions but on the Sprint Variant they woulnt make phone calls or text so I had to ditch them. I am downloading now so will give it a flash and see! Thank you for the heads up!
Dave
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Ok.. loaded up the Crdroid ROM. Working well, but with my SM 910P I am having bluetooth problems keeping sync with my Fitbit, Lack of LTE (but works on 3G) and a few other bugs but am managing. What carrier are you with? I would appreciate any tweeks you have found to help out.
Dave
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I had tried using some Liniage Versions but on the Sprint Variant they woulnt make phone calls or text so I had to ditch them. I am downloading now so will give it a flash and see! Thank you for the heads up!
Dave
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Ok.. loaded up the Crdroid ROM. Working well, but with my SM 910P I am having bluetooth problems keeping sync with my Fitbit, Lack of LTE (but works on 3G) and a few other bugs but am managing. What carrier are you with? I would appreciate any tweeks you have found to help out.
Dave
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Hi Dave,
Sorry for the late reply, i just read your post in the cdroid section, i am with simpel carrier i dont have any problems using LTE and have no problem with sms (i dont use mms) , the only tweaks is with the L speed app and kernel auditor to lower the idle frequentie of the GPU and set it to 166 instead of 240 to save battery. My gear fit2 pro on bluetooth works fine to so i am a happy camper. What you could try is other modems from other stock roms if you did not try that already maybe that helps with you LTE problem.
Cheers
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Hi Dave,
Sorry for the late reply, i just read your post in the cdroid section, i am with simpel carrier i dont have any problems using LTE and have no problem with sms (i dont use mms) , the only tweaks is with the L speed app and kernel auditor to lower the idle frequentie of the GPU and set it to 166 instead of 240 to save battery. My gear fit2 pro on bluetooth works fine to so i am a happy camper. What you could try is other modems from other stock roms if you did not try that already maybe that helps with you LTE problem.
Cheers
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Sorry for all the bouncing around in the forums. Trying to play Note 4 catchup...
Well that is an interesting thought. As a CDMA carrier customer (Sprint) I feel I am locked into my own island.
Can I just do a stock modem restore in TWRP onto my CRDroid ROM ? I am not at all sure why my Bluetooth is having such a problem with my Versa 2.. Maybe it is the versa problem?
Anyways, I can see a bit where the Note 4 gets laggy with camera use and running a few other commands at once. I know this is older but my Note 3 did not seem to hesatate this much. I like the idea of considering lowering my GPU.
Let me know if you have any other thoughts?
Dave
Np Dave there is so much information to take in that i can't blame you when bouncing aroubnd in the forum , You can and must make a backup with twrp of your modem in use and then fiddle around with different versions, its very easy to rip modems with 7zip from different original roms and zip (7zip) them to flash it with twrp. As for bluetooth it can be a pain in the ass with custom roms especially with asop roms, do some searches in the forum maybe someone has the same issue as you have.
Cheers
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. As for bluetooth it can be a pain in the ass with custom roms especially with asop roms, do some searches in the forum maybe someone has the same issue as you have.
Cheers
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I found a forum that says to go into the application and wipe data and cache and then I went into TWRP and wiped ART/Cache. That seems to help with the 'Bluetooth Keeps Stopping" error. I have tried to load several other ROM's but they wont install due to Error 7 codes. I supsect becuase I updated to the Q15 version and these older ROMS arent being updated. So I will keep trying to nurse the CrDroid 10 version and see if it can be improved..
I'm not an expert but for me.. note 3 is more stabLe than note 4 when it comes to custom rom. Easier to mod, and Less buggy. ( thanks to aLL deveLopers at kay Lodi @jprimero15 )
TiLL now stiLL Looking for a rom that can fit note 4 for daiLy usage.
Thanks
I am using Emotion Kernel, and Xposed. I will just to Android 12 at the moment it will be available.
I never used the Note 3, but i wonder is it faster than the Note 4 in daily usage. The Note 4 Snapdragon CPU is a frying pan and it can strongly reduce its performance when it gets hot.
My phone will in consequence randomly reboot, but i have a simple script that detects overheating and lower the CPU freq (works good)
Is the Note 3 quick and doesn't overheat when browsing internet?

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