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Hello guys,
I am about to purchase Samsung note 4 (yeaaaaaaaaaaaa) and I came across these three option.
To buy an unlocked phone from AT&T, T-Mobile or international version?
Any differences between these?
I am planning on putting some custom rom in the future, will i have any difficulties if i get AT&T or T-mobile?
I also live in the UK, will this affect me?
Thanks for your tips.
cotsios26 said:
Hello guys,
I am about to purchase Samsung note 4 (yeaaaaaaaaaaaa) and I came across these three option.
To buy an unlocked phone from AT&T, T-Mobile or international version?
Any differences between these?
I am planning on putting some custom rom in the future, will i have any difficulties if i get AT&T or T-mobile?
I also live in the UK, will this affect me?
Thanks for your tips.
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Att has a locked bootloader - so if you want to flash custom roms do not buy that one. Tmobile version can flash custom roms and so can the international one - I don't know about Englnad, but I know the International Version (at least on the S5) cannot be used in teh states if you want to get LTE - the international phone doesn't have the correct bands to get LTE in the US - I cannot say that is for sure on the NOTE 4 - but it is definately how it was on the S5 and I would guess that at least in this area, they are the same.
So I htink you should get specks for both Tmobile and International and make sure they have the bands you need to get LTE in England. That would be the only real difference between the two from what I can tell anyway.
GOOD LUCK!
mocsab said:
Att has a locked bootloader - so if you want to flash custom roms do not buy that one. Tmobile version can flash custom roms and so can the international one - I don't know about Englnad, but I know the International Version (at least on the S5) cannot be used in teh states if you want to get LTE - the international phone doesn't have the correct bands to get LTE in the US - I cannot say that is for sure on the NOTE 4 - but it is definately how it was on the S5 and I would guess that at least in this area, they are the same.
So I htink you should get specks for both Tmobile and International and make sure they have the bands you need to get LTE in England. That would be the only real difference between the two from what I can tell anyway.
GOOD LUCK!
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Ok thanks for the information!
The details I have for the T-Mobile version is
Quad Band GSM
UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17
SIM: Micro-SIM
Model # SM-N910T
Im not sure if this LTE works in the UK.
I know that might be a bit off topic, but I am interested in LG G3 as well. What are your thoughs compared to Note 4.
Does the difference in price tag (330GBP for the G3 to 530GBO for Note 4) worth it?
The LG G3 is not even in the same ballpark.
Don't do it.
I don't know why anyone would recommend the international version. It has no warranty and NO support for LTE in North America. The T-Mobile version is fully compatible with AT&T, and works quite well (I am using it myself). LTE speeds are excellent, along with reception. I have no complaints. The only thing the AT&T might offer is HD voice and carrier aggregation.
The op resides in Europe (UK). Get the International snapdragon that works with your carrier's bands. And it also seems that the sm-n910f has all the same bands as the t mobile version
cotsios26 said:
Ok thanks for the information!
The details I have for the T-Mobile version is
Quad Band GSM
UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17
SIM: Micro-SIM
Model # SM-N910T
Im not sure if this LTE works in the UK.
I know that might be a bit off topic, but I am interested in LG G3 as well. What are your thoughs compared to Note 4.
Does the difference in price tag (330GBP for the G3 to 530GBO for Note 4) worth it?
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I can;t speak aobut the LG - Never used it - no desire to - The Note 4 is simply the most amazing phone ever made - no comparison in my book - regarding TMOBILE SUPPORTED LTE BANDS _ I just don't know much about which bands are used by providers in Europe - I know their phones are not compatible here in the US - at least not on any phone I have tried - but I don't know if the same is true with US phones in Europe or england. Either way, good luck.
Android_Monsters said:
The LG G3 is not even in the same ballpark.
Don't do it.
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So Note4 does worth to spend around 200GBP more for it?
MattMJB0188 said:
I don't know why anyone would recommend the international version. It has no warranty and NO support for LTE in North America. The T-Mobile version is fully compatible with AT&T, and works quite well (I am using it myself). LTE speeds are excellent, along with reception. I have no complaints. The only thing the AT&T might offer is HD voice and carrier aggregation.
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I live in UK so thats why I am wondering about AT&T and T-Mobile versions, they are both unlocked though.
As far as I know, I will not buy AT&T cz of the locked bootloader.
mbonus said:
The op resides in Europe (UK). Get the International snapdragon that works with your carrier's bands. And it also seems that the sm-n910f has all the same bands as the t mobile version
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I found T-Mobile version around 490GBP whereas international version is more expensive, but they say they have the same frequencies. So im guessing i wont have any problems in the uk!?
mocsab said:
I can;t speak aobut the LG - Never used it - no desire to - The Note 4 is simply the most amazing phone ever made - no comparison in my book - regarding TMOBILE SUPPORTED LTE BANDS _ I just don't know much about which bands are used by providers in Europe - I know their phones are not compatible here in the US - at least not on any phone I have tried - but I don't know if the same is true with US phones in Europe or england. Either way, good luck.
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Alright, thanks a lot.
I also found N910K version which is the Korean version. Is it the one with the Octa-core CPU, or Im mistaken?
cotsios26 said:
I live in UK so thats why I am wondering about AT&T and T-Mobile versions, they are both unlocked though.
As far as I know, I will not buy AT&T cz of the locked bootloader.
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I didn't see you live in the UK. In that case, i don't know about the T-Mobile version. I always thought Samsung had its own unlocked European version?
MattMJB0188 said:
I didn't see you live in the UK. In that case, i don't know about the T-Mobile version. I always thought Samsung had its own unlocked European version?
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Yes they do have it. But I found a T-Mobile version cheaper than the international version and I was wondering If i should buy it and if it would have any compatibility issues with Europe.
cotsios26 said:
Yes they do have it. But I found a T-Mobile version cheaper than the international version and I was wondering If i should buy it and if it would have any compatibility issues with Europe.
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I'm assuming the T-Mobile version N910T would have no warranty support in your country.
cotsios26 said:
Yes they do have it. But I found a T-Mobile version cheaper than the international version and I was wondering If i should buy it and if it would have any compatibility issues with Europe.
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I honestly don't know about TMOBILE working for LTE in the UK - the only experience I have is attempting to use an International S5 in the US and when I tried, I could not get LTE - I assumed that the NOTE and the S5 have the same bands - if that is true, then International phones won't get LTE on ATT in the US (I don't know about TMOBILE) and regarding which bands are supported by Carriers in the UK - that is where I am completely lost - a
Hi,
I bought an one plus 3T in india and brought it to US. I'm getting only E not even 3G. When I enquired in T mobile/lyca store, i was told that india unlocked mobile won't support the US bands. Network upgraded. It was big surprise to me. Please suggest me how to unblock additional LTE bands in my 3T mobile.
That's not possible, you should trade your 3t A3003 for a 3t A3000 American band-unlocked model.
Check the specifications for each model under connectivity.
https://oneplus.net/us/3t/specs
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
thes3usa said:
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
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India uses FDD 850, 1800 and TDD 2400. Most of the Europe uses TDD 1800. So you getting LTE in Europe is not a surprise.
USA uses 700, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2300
Varies with MSP
You will at least get 3G with T-Mobile and AT&T
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
thes3usa said:
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
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Europe and india uses the same bands. I lived in uk and used the uk phones in india and indian phones over there. Its the states that uses different frequencies so most of phones don't work properly outside states.
smokin901 said:
India uses FDD 850, 1800 and TDD 2400. Most of the Europe uses TDD 1800. So you getting LTE in Europe is not a surprise.
USA uses 700, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2300
Varies with MSP
You will at least get 3G with T-Mobile and AT&T
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
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bonham1988 said:
Europe and india uses the same bands. I lived in uk and used the uk phones in india and indian phones over there. Its the states that uses different frequencies so most of phones don't work properly outside states.
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no clue that it uses the same bands.
thes3usa said:
Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no clue that it uses the same bands.
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Compatibility of phones with the cell networks in the US are a total pain in the you-know-what. We have 4 different major carriers, all using different bands (a little bit of band sharing, but most completely different) for 3G and LTE (GSM is a little more standardized thankfully). Basically, as a general rule if a device not intended/designed to work on US (and depends on which exact US carrier), you are probably going to run into some incompatibilities (no 3G or no LTE, or limited connectivity).
redpoint73 said:
Compatibility of phones with the cell networks in the US are a total pain in the you-know-what. We have 4 different major carriers, all using different bands (a little bit of band sharing, but most completely different) for 3G and LTE (GSM is a little more standardized thankfully). Basically, as a general rule if a device not intended/designed to work on US (and depends on which exact US carrier), you are probably going to run into some incompatibilities (no 3G or no LTE, or limited connectivity).
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Talk about synchronicity eh? But do the difference in bands give any speed differences, or call clarity? In the blind about these stuff, coming from a country that has only one carrier out of five who is still beta testing VoLTE.
thes3usa said:
But do the difference in bands give any speed differences, or call clarity?
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Not an expert, and had to Google that. From what I'm reading, lower frequency (MHz) has better penetration (through buildings, etc.) while higher frequency bands have higher data capacity.
There are steps on how to unlock additional bands. There are like 50 steps. I dont remember where I've seen it but if you google how to unlock bands on OnePlus you will find it. Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
pk-air said:
Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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There are no region specific versions of OxygenOS, so this will do nothing but reflash the latest update.
pk-air said:
There are steps on how to unlock additional bands. There are like 50 steps. I dont remember where I've seen it but if you google how to unlock bands on OnePlus you will find it. Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
thes3usa said:
There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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No you can't switch but you can unlock some bands which might help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/guide-unlock-additional-lte-bands-t3519563
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pitrus- said:
There are no region specific versions of OxygenOS, so this will do nothing but reflash the latest update.
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as I said I dont see any reason for it to work
thes3usa said:
There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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At one time that was true. But for Qualcomm SoCs, the band support stopped being set in hardware (at least for the most part) some 3 years ago with Snapdragon 801 (or maybe earlier, but definitely with 801). Support for all or most bands (might be some exceptions) used worldwide is there, but the specific bands are enabled in firmware.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/rf
That said, enabling bands is a long process as noted; and has the risk of resulting in a radio brick. So it's best to buy the correct region version OP3T (which supports the needed bands out of the box) when possible.
redpoint73 said:
At one time that was true. But for Qualcomm SoCs, the band support stopped being set in hardware (at least for the most part) some 3 years ago with Snapdragon 801 (or maybe earlier, but definitely with 801). Support for all or most bands (might be some exceptions) used worldwide is there, but the specific bands are enabled in firmware.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/rf
That said, enabling bands is a long process as noted; and has the risk of resulting in a radio brick. So it's best to buy the correct region version OP3T (which supports the needed bands out of the box) when possible.
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Why aren't all bands just enabled by default then? I don't understand why there are different models for different regions.
I have a US OP3T and I'm visiting India. It''s working with Jio in India (although it supports only only of the 3 bands used by Jio) but VoLTE doesn't work for some reason.
after watching Pocket Now's video on the Note 9's LTE speed, it got me excited. Excited til I realized their unit is a snapdragon 845 and the Exynos will have its own benchmarks.
Anyone have any idea how the Exynos version compares?
didn't watch video, but what are the actual results?
i have unlocked usa version with ATT LTE, i'm sure mine is the Exynos version. My results:
download = 51.3 mbps
upload = 6.2 mbps
are my test results in line with the results from the video?
Mine is an exynos version on 3uk and I recorded 73.2 down and 42.2 up. Upload speed is 4 times my home broadband speed
nycalex said:
i have unlocked usa version with ATT LTE, i'm sure mine is the Exynos version.
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It's not.
My Exynos Note9 result
entropism said:
It's not.
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you are right, even unlocked ones are snapdragon
Dolgogi said:
My Exynos Note9 result
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what the heck......
i'm in NY metro and my LTE speeds suck
Updated test
For a comparison, here's my Note8 Exynos model result.
Tested in the same location last week before my Note9 arrived.
The test's were done at almost the same time last week and today
nycalex said:
didn't watch video, but what are the actual results?
i have unlocked usa version with ATT LTE, i'm sure mine is the Exynos version. My results:
download = 51.3 mbps
upload = 6.2 mbps
are my test results in line with the results from the video?
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the tldw is 160mbps speed test in congested downtown NYC, on t-mobile.
soraxd said:
the tldw is 160mbps speed test in congested downtown NYC, on t-mobile.
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i'm about 5 miles from there and getting 51mbps on an unlocked version with ATT as the carrier.
this is seriously pissing me off.
i'm going to exchange my unlocked one for an ATT branded one.
screw unlocked, carrier branded it is going forward
Unlocked US version on AT&T, pretty poor signal strength here at work, but still phenomenal speeds considering.
nycalex said:
you are right, even unlocked ones are snapdragon
what the heck......
i'm in NY metro and my LTE speeds suck
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Because AT&T's main bands are 71 and another one which i forgot which aren't supported on the US unlocked variant or any other. They're not gunna treat unlocked customers like they do their own.When you have a carrier, it is important to know these types of things when choosing your phone. Just because it supports GSM and CDMA means almost nothing to you (unless you plan on switching carriers a few times in the lifesoan of the phone) as AT&T only uses GSM. The unlocked supports more bands but no model supports all of them. You also have to take into account carrier features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
LTE/modem speeds are hard to test as the actual speed vary mostly from the network towers, how many connected users yours have, how much they download, the signal strength and so on.
For a real tests a lab is needed and from there are the stated measurements from the manufacturers. The exynos model is good.
SamGuy2020 said:
Because AT&T's main bands are 71 and another one which i forgot which aren't supported on the US unlocked variant or any other. They're not gunna treat unlocked customers like they do their own.When you have a carrier, it is important to know these types of things when choosing your phone. Just because it supports GSM and CDMA means almost nothing to you (unless you plan on switching carriers a few times in the lifesoan of the phone) as AT&T only uses GSM. The unlocked supports more bands but no model supports all of them. You also have to take into account carrier features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
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The US Unlocked variant DOES support band 71. It supports all the bands any of the US Carriers use.
You are correct about VoLTE and WiFi calling using the unlocked phone on ATT. However, both those features work perfectly on T-Mobile.
If you have ATT and want VoLTE or WiFi calling, or for some reason you don't think you're getting full band support (you are), then just flash the ATT firmware. They are all the SAME EXACT device. No difference in hardware at all. Been this way since the S8/+.
It's important to know these types of things when choosing your phone.
Exynos ee Coventry
Mr. Orange 645 said:
The US Unlocked variant DOES support band 71. It supports all the bands any of the US Carriers use.
You are correct about VoLTE and WiFi calling using the unlocked phone on ATT. However, both those features work perfectly on T-Mobile.
If you have ATT and want VoLTE or WiFi calling, or for some reason you don't think you're getting full band support (you are), then just flash the ATT firmware. They are all the SAME EXACT device. No difference in hardware at all. Been this way since the S8/+.
It's important to know these types of things when choosing your phone.
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Flashing ATT firmware in odin wont change csc since s7
SamGuy2020 said:
Flashing ATT firmware in odin wont change csc since s7
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CSC changes automatically depending on what SIM you have installed.
Never imported a phone before, but I really want the s10, and I dont want to give up my custom roms.
What should I expect with using the international S10 here in the states? Will the network coverage change? I use tmobile, will that make a difference? Is wifi calling disabled?
If someone could at least steer me in the right direction, because I'm a bit confused on how these things work.
Thanks!
You'll have to compare band support (no clue what Exynos has). US model contains ALL bands for T-Mobile. B2, 4, 5, 12, LAA/46, 66, and 71. Carrier aggregation for these bands may vary between the Snap and Exy.
Now, the main reason I wouldn't import is due to warranty coverage (or lack of). You can walk into a Samsung center in the States, and they'll repair your phone. Free repairs for burn in, batteries, etc.
Historically, Exynos models of S8 and S9 don't support T-Mobile bands 66 and 71. It's not yet clear if that's the case with Exynos S10. I wouldn't get a new, expensive phone to be used on Tmo if it doesn't support these bands, but if your area is not served by those bands and you'll never travel to B66, B71 areas, you might be fine without.
You might have to wait for developers CSC hack for Tmo VoLTE and wifi calling support if they're not supported out of the box like Exynos S8/S9. Not having VoLTE/wifi calling would suck for me, but it would also suck to not have root because of locked bootloader (US S8/S9). It's a tough choice for some people, myself included.
I've never seen any situation where my T-Mobile S7 got reception where my rooted Exynos S7 did not, nor any other connectivity differences. As mentioned, you may live in an area where this could be an issue, but for me in the Bay Area and LA areas of California, I've never seen any difference. It's a 3 year old phone, so there may be some differences at this point with the bands an S10 supports, but having an unlocked bootloader trumps losing a few bands, to me.
Ace42 said:
You'll have to compare band support (no clue what Exynos has). US model contains ALL bands for T-Mobile. B2, 4, 5, 12, LAA/46, 66, and 71. Carrier aggregation for these bands may vary between the Snap and Exy.
Now, the main reason I wouldn't import is due to warranty coverage (or lack of). You can walk into a Samsung center in the States, and they'll repair your phone. Free repairs for burn in, batteries, etc.
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If I import, the UK version, will it be region locked? Where I have to have a 5-10 min call in the purchasing country before I can use it in the USA?
gullyous said:
If I import, the UK version, will it be region locked? Where I have to have a 5-10 min call in the purchasing country before I can use it in the USA?
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I believe so, clove.co.uk opens the phone and makes the call for you before they call. Not sure if I really trust them however. Most people dont have a problem but I have heard horror stories.
gullyous said:
If I import, the UK version, will it be region locked? Where I have to have a 5-10 min call in the purchasing country before I can use it in the USA?
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To add, I also found this seller on ebay claiming this model will not region lock, and comes in a sealed box
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...rentrq:2c3f6f451690ad4a688677f9ffe7ef69|iid:1
Ace42 said:
You'll have to compare band support (no clue what Exynos has)
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it's all there, follow the link in that post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/how-to/s10-model-differences-lte-bands-regions-t3904592
Hi All,
I have recently bought an Unlocked US snapdragon version of Galaxy S21 ultra 5g but I live in UK. Since the day 1, I have never experienced 5G icon on notifications area here in London. I only see LTE. My SIM is 5G enabled. Is there any difference between the US snapdragon 888 version and UK Exynos 2100 as I am not seeing this 5G icon.
OR, if someone knows if there is a chance to get benefit of 5G here in London with my US version.
I look forward to getting your answers...
Thanks,
If your version is dual sim, try putting the sim on 2nd sim card slot. Otherwise, I would contact Samsung about it.
I thought the US and UK used different bands and that is why Samsung use the different chipsets based on the countries 5G bands. There is a small overlap in the high bands around 27/28 Ghz but that would depend on the bands you Uk provider uses. That is why they do not recommend buying devices from abroad.
The US unlocked won't get 5G in Europe
mpore14 said:
If your version is dual sim, try putting the sim on 2nd sim card slot. Otherwise, I would contact Samsung about it.
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It's a single SIM device...
lywyn said:
I thought the US and UK used different bands and that is why Samsung use the different chipsets based on the countries 5G bands. There is a small overlap in the high bands around 27/28 Ghz but that would depend on the bands you Uk provider uses. That is why they do not recommend buying devices from abroad.
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Does it mean, I will never get a chance to to see 5G icon on my device ? Or I can get the 5G in the future when the 5G rolls out fully in the UK with different bands or frequencies? Please comment on this. Thanks
ekerbuddyeker said:
The US unlocked won't get 5G in Europe
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Is it for now ? Or I will get a chance to see 5G on my device in future ?
Armani505 said:
Does it mean, I will never get a chance to to see 5G icon on my device ? Or I can get the 5G in the future when the 5G rolls out fully in the UK with different bands or frequencies? Please comment on this. Thanks
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It would depend on many things, 1) The SD support your carriers 5G band, 2) the firmware supporting the 5G, 3) your plan with carrier supporting 5G.
(1) and (2) may be supported depending on the carriers bands, you would need to ask your carrier.
(3) for example, previous EE plans do not include 5G in the plan and only if you upgrade to a 5G plan can you connect at 5G. My last phone did not do 5G so the plan was a 4G plan, upgrading the phone meant I had to upgrade the plan.
It's not whether your carrier will add 5G, it's the bands that they add that matter. European 5G bands are not the same as US 5G bands. Samsung doesn't include both in a single version of the s21 (apple does). You either have the US version or the various global versions. I have the HK version. It's a snapdragon like the US (and dual sim) but it only gets 5G in Europe (and HK of course).
lywyn said:
It would depend on many things, 1) The SD support your carriers 5G band, 2) the firmware supporting the 5G, 3) your plan with carrier supporting 5G.
(1) and (2) may be supported depending on the carriers bands, you would need to ask your carrier.
(3) for example, previous EE plans do not include 5G in the plan and only if you upgrade to a 5G plan can you connect at 5G. My last phone did not do 5G so the plan was a 4G plan, upgrading the phone meant I had to upgrade the plan.
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Thanks for the detailed answer. I contacted my carrier which is EE here in the UK. They said we are running different bands of 5G as compared to the US 5G bands.
And they confirmed that my plan is 5G enabled...
ekerbuddyeker said:
It's not whether your carrier will add 5G, it's the bands that they add that matter. European 5G bands are not the same as US 5G bands. Samsung doesn't include both in a single version of the s21 (apple does). You either have the US version or the various global versions. I have the HK version. It's a snapdragon like the US (and dual sim) but it only gets 5G in Europe (and HK of course).
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Hi, Thanks for your reply, I contacted them, and Yes, they said we are running different 5G bands here in UK as compared to US 5G bands and your US version supports the bands currently US carriers are providing in the US.
So, it means, when they (EE UK) add more 5G bands in their service like more frequencies of 5G then I can get the benefit of my 5G Snapdragon US version in the UK ???
ekerbuddyeker said:
The US unlocked won't get 5G in Europe
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@ekerbuddyeker I hope you're okay. Could you specify the technicality(s) why it won't work?
@ekerbuddyeker I hope you're okay. Could you specify the technicality(s) why it won't work?
SidRose01 said:
I hope you're okay. Could you specify the technicality(s) why it won't work?
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it's set up to receive a different set frequencies than are mostly used in Europe as others have said.
Hey. Ignore the incorrect advice from both your carrier and other users here.
Your S21 from the US includes band n78 support even though it isn't advertised.
You just need to enable it and remove the NR whitelist.
You can do it through the service menu (access through Google Dialer).
3mel said:
it's set up to receive a different set frequencies than are mostly used in Europe as others have said.
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Yep. We know. I mean do you know which frequency the US version is missing that is required in UK?
Skander1998 said:
Hey. Ignore the incorrect advice from both your carrier and other users here.
Your S21 from the US includes band n78 support even though it isn't advertised.
You just need to enable it and remove the NR whitelist.
You can do it through the service menu (access through Google Dialer).
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The service menu was unfortunately disabled on the US versions many months ago...
*Edit* - To clarify this, I'm sure that the code is probably the same as before, however, when you type it in on the US phones (using Google Phone, of course), the number instantly deletes itself and doesn't allow the menu to open. This was either just before or after launch (I can't remember which one as I had a Note 20 Ultra and exchanged it for this phone just after it released). But just before I did the phone exchange, all of a sudden, I couldn't access that service menu anymore on my Note 20U as it had just been blocked on the US phones. Furthermore, both of my phones were unlocked, and so it doesn't seem to be a carrier dependent thing =(
NippleSauce said:
The service menu was unfortunately disabled on the US versions many months ago...
*Edit* - To clarify this, I'm sure that the code is probably the same as before, however, when you type it in on the US phones, the number instantly deletes itself and doesn't allow the menu to open.
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Not really true. Just add a 2 at the end of the old code, click the first menu option, then 3 dot, back. Click the first option, and again, 3 menu, back. And now you've got the old service menu back.
We still have QPST access to if they ever block that second code
Armani505 said:
Hi, Thanks for your reply, I contacted them, and Yes, they said we are running different 5G bands here in UK as compared to US 5G bands and your US version supports the bands currently US carriers are providing in the US.
So, it means, when they (EE UK) add more 5G bands in their service like more frequencies of 5G then I can get the benefit of my 5G Snapdragon US version in the UK ???
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Only if they add the specific US bands, which is as likely as the UK Ministry of Transport regulating that the UK will start driving on the left to be in line with the US, but phasing it in, and starting only with Heavy Goods Vehicles first.