what are the pros and cons (if any) of Magisk over SuperSU ? i apologize if this is - Magisk

i searched for some info but couldn't find any at a glance so perhaps I will just ask you guys. I apologize if this is a FAQ and i just missed it. i have supersu. i wonder if i should move to Magisk ?
1. what are the pros of Magisk
2. any downsides of Magisk ?
3. is there any tutorial for converting from SuperSU to Magisk ? i managed to get TWRP and SuperSU because someone else did it on my phone. that person is no longer be able to help. different country different timezone. not a friend either. it was a paid service done in Hongkong where and when I bought the phone.
again I apologize if this is a FAQ. I'm a noob. I hope you guys can point me in the right direction. I just want to set this phone right from the get go. it's a virgin phone. haven't install anything yet. well i install Titanium Backup just to make sure root is working. 99% virgin i guess. thank you for any help and pointers
EDIT # 1 : forgot to add this is about Samsung Galaxy S9+ S9650 Snapdragon running 8.0 just in case it matters to those who want to contribute some info
EDIT # 2 : most likely won't be using this phone for Android Pay, SnapChat. but I would like to use this phone for banking apps. i'm not really into snapchat, instagrams, etc. me old timer

forgot to add this is about Samsung Galaxy S9+ S9650 Snapdragon running 8.0 just in case it matters to those who want to contribute some info

Open source. Actively maintined. Root hiding. Systemless modifications. Big community. Etc...
Possibly not compatible with as many devices as SuperSU was.
https://www.didgeridoohan.com/magis..._another_systemless_root_solution_to_MagiskSU

wow thank you for your feedback
Didgeridoohan said:
Open source. Actively maintined. Root hiding. Systemless modifications. Big community. Etc...
Possibly not compatible with as many devices as SuperSU was.
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QX7337 said:
wow thank you for your feedback
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Is supersu even being developed anymore? I'd love to have at least some sort of crappy Plan B as it looks like magisk has a possibility of dying.

Burt Squirtz said:
Is supersu even being developed anymore? I'd love to have at least some sort of crappy Plan B as it looks like magisk has a possibility of dying.
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I still don't understand how come Google knew who he/she really we and recruited

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Battery drain + error messages ( NEW TO ROOT - HELP!)

Hi,
I am new here. I am also new to rooting as I just rooted to 7.1 yesterday. I wanted the pixel look on my 6p. I believe I used superSu (not sure what that is lol I need some education), but that is the app on my phone. Everything is working pretty good aside from 2 things: 1. snapchat login doesn't work and from what I have seen online I cannot uninstall xposed installer because as of now I do not even have one installed because it's not released for Nougat yet. Or is that what SuperSu is? Also my battery is draining like crazy.... someone please tell me how to fix that and possibly educate me a bit on what these particular apps are, superSu and xposed installer. I am sorry to create another thread if these things were already stated but I am so confused..
Thank you!,
Brianna

Any way to make Android Pay actually work?

I've always loved the idea of being able to pay (at a lot of places, now) using NFC technology. Unfortunately, root access, xposed, and now a custom rom (Props to the EpicROM team!) have always out prioritized the NFC payment feature.
I've read a great deal about Magisk, and so I know how it works, but afaik EpicROM is packaged with SuperSU and so there isn't a straightforward way to use one of the compatible superuser apps. So, my question is (and the custom rom issue might be a bit much to tackle, but it's worth asking), has ANYONE managed to get Android Pay working on their Mix?
Also, I searched around for a good bit, only to find the answer elude me: Are there acceptable substitutes for Android Pay that do the same thing (NFC payment, "tap and go"?) and are accepted by most point of sale setups?
bigcc32 said:
I've always loved the idea of being able to pay (at a lot of places, now) using NFC technology. Unfortunately, root access, xposed, and now a custom rom (Props to the EpicROM team!) have always out prioritized the NFC payment feature.
I've read a great deal about Magisk, and so I know how it works, but afaik EpicROM is packaged with SuperSU and so there isn't a straightforward way to use one of the compatible superuser apps. So, my question is (and the custom rom issue might be a bit much to tackle, but it's worth asking), has ANYONE managed to get Android Pay working on their Mix?
Also, I searched around for a good bit, only to find the answer elude me: Are there acceptable substitutes for Android Pay that do the same thing (NFC payment, "tap and go"?) and are accepted by most point of sale setups?
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To pass safety net you need to
1. Be unrooted
2. Have an official rom, which is stable (not developer)
3. Have a locked bootloader
So most probably, Magisk will not help you on this
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Nikos2k said:
To pass safety net you need to
1. Be unrooted
2. Have an official rom, which is stable (not developer)
3. Have a locked bootloader
So most probably, Magisk will not help you on this
Sent from my MI MIX using Tapatalk
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Yeah the three things you listed there are things I think I'd rather have than the slight inconvenience of having to actually pull out my wallet to pay for things.
In an ideal world we'd all be able to pay with PayPal using NFC technology, but oh well.
There is a kernel patch which fakes a verifiedboot state; you can try that.
https://github.com/sultanxda/androi...bc05b16bbd33521c2fffaf491c5657a94bfcfc5.patch
Which you can apply to: https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/scorpio-m-oss
adwinp said:
There is a kernel patch which fakes a verifiedboot state; you can try that.
https://github.com/sultanxda/androi...bc05b16bbd33521c2fffaf491c5657a94bfcfc5.patch
Which you can apply to: https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/scorpio-m-oss
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I'm usually pretty technologically literate, but I'm not sure what I'm looking at. Part of the first URL you linked includes the words "oneplus," suggesting to me that it might not be as simple as just running that command line script. I don't expect to be spoon-fed information, but links to any related threads would be much appreciated.
I relocked my bootloader after I installed the official Global rom. I can add my credit cards but I can't get it to pay for anything at a terminal. It just doesn't launch at all.
Instead of flashing patched kernel, I would recommend flashing resurrection rom instead.

Viper4android on Note 9 (snapdragon) without root?

Hi everyone,
I just switched from my old good Galaxy S7 to a brand new Note 9 (snapdragon, couldn't find an exynos variant on my country)
and so far i'm loving it, the software (aside from the usual bloatware) has been excelent and nothing seems to be missing for me right now, EXCEPT for some decent quality audio.
I'm used to use mid-high tier headphones and all I can say is samsung is still giving us pretty much no control over the sound quality.
Now to the point of this post, I know there is a way to install viper4android by just changing the kernel to permissive (idk if this still works). I don't want to void my warranty by tripping knox this time, and up to this moment there is no reason for me to root my device except for the sound mod.
Does anyone know how to install viper4android without root?
Does anyone know how to change the kernel to permissive without tripping knox?
Does anyone know if there is or is in development a way to root without tripping knox?
Thanks for reading
Threx71 said:
Hi everyone,
I just switched from my old good Galaxy S7 to a brand new Note 9 (snapdragon, couldn't find an exynos variant on my country)
and so far i'm loving it, the software (aside from the usual bloatware) has been excelent and nothing seems to be missing for me right now, EXCEPT for some decent quality audio.
I'm used to use mid-high tier headphones and all I can say is samsung is still giving us pretty much no control over the sound quality.
Now to the point of this post, I know there is a way to install viper4android by just changing the kernel to permissive (idk if this still works). I don't want to void my warranty by tripping knox this time, and up to this moment there is no reason for me to root my device except for the sound mod.
Does anyone know how to install viper4android without root?
Does anyone know how to change the kernel to permissive without tripping knox?
Does anyone know if there is or is in development a way to root without tripping knox?
Thanks for reading
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i think its a no to everything
bober10113 said:
i think its a no to everything
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There is a Viper4android non root version but as far as I know it can't be installed until we have TWRP.
clone1008 said:
There is a Viper4android non root version but as far as I know it can't be installed until we have TWRP.
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he did say no nox trip so viper that is non root but has to be installed via twrp is oxymoronic?
bober10113 said:
he did say no nox trip so viper that is non root but has to be installed via twrp is oxymoronic?
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Again as far as I know the only non root way to install Viper4android is through TWRP. Yes this will trip knox but is non root. TWRP will probably be available on a Snapdragon version Note 9 long before if ever root is. His wishes for no nox trip Viper4android are non existent.
clone1008 said:
Again as far as I know the only non root way to install Viper4android is through TWRP. Yes this will trip knox but is non root. TWRP will probably be available on a Snapdragon version Note 9 long before if ever root is.
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didn't know setting kernel to permissive was doable non root.
i did a few searches about "viper non root" and they all point to rooting your phone as if it was click bait. even xda forums state that it is not possible. maybe im not searching correctly?
bober10113 said:
didn't know setting kernel to permissive was doable non root.
i did a few searches about "viper non root" and they all point to rooting your phone as if it was click bait. even xda forums state that it is not possible. maybe im not searching correctly?
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https://thedroidarena.com/install-viper4android-android/
clone1008 said:
https://thedroidarena.com/install-viper4android-android/
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you can do these procedures without root?:
bober10113 said:
you can do these procedures without root?:
hen open the Busybox application and get set to install on
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It does say some Samsungs. My non root experience was on a Pixel XL. So guys we won't know until TWRP. Until then it's a moot point regardless. To the OPs hopes... No root, no trip knox.... no Viper4android
clone1008 said:
It does say some Samsungs. My non root experience was on a Pixel XL. So I guys we won't know until TWRP. Until then it's a moot point regardless. To the OPs hopes... No root, no trip knox.... no Viper4android
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you can do these procedures without root?:
install busybox to system/xbin
use a file explorer to rename system/vendor/etc/conf/audio_effects.conf
post got cut off for sum reason
bober10113 said:
you can do these procedures without root?:
install busybox to system/xbin
use a file explorer to rename system/vendor/etc/conf/audio_effects.conf
post got cut off for sum reason
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Try it
clone1008 said:
Try it
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lol when ever i get new base ill fully flash back stock and try but ive always been under the impression these actions required root.
anyways ill check it out some time. thanks

Galaxy Notes on M21

Hey all!
The only reason I changed to Samsung M21 was my need to read notes on my phone I wrote in Samsung Notes on other device (Samsung Galaxy Tab S4). And I was very surprised and disappointed, when I reallized they don't allow to update Samsung Notes app on M21 to the latest version. Now it's 3.* on M21 and 4.* on Tab S4, so it even doesn't show me my notes. It is funny, but cheaper A20 has 4.* version. It returns with error if I try to install latest .apk of the app, Galaxy Store shows only 3.*.
Are here any solutions? Maybe, some custom ROM or kinda forced installing?
Probably because M21 has One UI Core. Sadly, there's nothing you can do about it if you're not rooted.
Thank you for the answer, Fredin_. It is no problem to root the phone, isn't it? My previous phones were rooted, so I had a little experience. Could you please tell more about solutions after I do it.
Shikaroy said:
Thank you for the answer, Fredin_. It is no problem to root the phone, isn't it? My previous phones were rooted, so I had a little experience. Could you please tell more about solutions after I do it.
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It shouldn't be a big deal, nothing is broken for me and banking apps work after hiding the magisk app, using magisk hide and passing safetynet, though I did come across one app that refused to work.
You need to disable signature verification somehow (the easiest way would be to use luckypatcher) and install the apk using Split APK Installer using the root method. If that doesn't work, you can try installing the app as a system app, most apps should work with either of these methods.
But if you are happy with android 10, then an even better alternative would be to use Totsuka OS. It's a OneUI port, so you can just install stuff from the galaxy store or playstore.
Fredin_ said:
It shouldn't be a big deal, nothing is broken for me and banking apps work after hiding the magisk app, using magisk hide and passing safetynet, though I did come across one app that refused to work.
You need to disable signature verification somehow (the easiest way would be to use luckypatcher) and install the apk using Split APK Installer using the root method. If that doesn't work, you can try installing the app as a system app, most apps should work with either of these methods.
But if you are happy with android 10, then an even better alternative would be to use Totsuka OS. It's a OneUI port, so you can just install stuff from the galaxy store or playstore.
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Thank you very much! I just was going to buy A51 for that app. I don't event know difference between Android 10 and 11, so will read more and make the choice at this weekend. Wish me luck and TY again
Shikaroy said:
Thank you very much! I just was going to buy A51 for that app. I don't event know difference between Android 10 and 11, so will read more and make the choice at this weekend. Wish me luck and TY again
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Yeah, then Totsuka will be good for you, pretty much bugless. Don't forget to flash the keystore fix after flashing it tho.
Good luck.
Fredin_ said:
Yeah, then Totsuka will be good for you, pretty much bugless. Don't forget to flash the keystore fix after flashing it tho.
Good luck.
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Sorry, the problem solved
Shikaroy said:
Sorry, the problem solved
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Nice
Ditch SNotes now or it will bite you even harder. Samsung is notorious for lack of legacy support with this apk, as I know all too well. Cut&pasted more of these notes than I care to remember to salvage them
I use ColorNote now. You can hyperlink directly from them so you can use it for saving bookmarks too. It will store backups on a SD card and you can export backups to the PC.
This app it's self doesn't need internet connection to function... in fact I always block it with Karma Firewall.
Save an installable copy of it if you decide to use it... never trust Playstore.

Help to de-google my phone

G'day
I'm sick of google and everything they are about. Don't be evil my arse. I already do the simple stuff like using brave browser and duck duck go search. I'm hoping someone can advise me on how to strip my phone of as much google as possible and replace with aosp alternatives. Or even just point me towards some guides on it.
I am using a Samsung galaxy a22 5g rooted with magisk stock rom.
Thanks
I think you might want to flash a custom ROM, then use something like MicroG Magisk, NanoDroid or FOSSApps. Ungoogling an already Googled stock ROM might be more pain than flashing something community developed.
I'm currently running Lineage with Magisk GApps (so I can remove them anytime) and I'm slowly getting ready for the transition. So I'm also looking for more information.
I set up a VPS for myself (might be an overkill for you, but inspiration nonethelss) and I'm hosting OnlyOFFICE Community there and using their apps, I also host my own BitWarden password storage and a mail server (was kinda pain to set it up with all the methods for spam verification). This way some of my most sensitive data is kept on an encrypted drive on a server I myself control.
Then there's getting apps which are mainly available through Google Play - I found that uptodown does host apks, but that's far from an actually viable option (considering you really have to trust them when you're downloading apps there). Alternative stores providing the same apps as Google Play are always kinda worrying to use & trust.
So that's my two cents worth and a starting point, I'll also gladly accept some tips & tricks to accomplish this entirely, it's a long-lasting dream to leave Google altogether.
Champdroid said:
de-google
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i think it's better to use a custom aosp rom with no gapps
if you still want stock rom :
make a recovery backup of "system" just in case
mount system
the folders that have apps are :
system/app
system/priv-app
system/product/app
system/product/priv-app
(if you use A11+ check also system-ext/app and priv-app)
delete anyhing related to google
if you don't want to delete use lucky patcher or titanium backup to freez them
if you choose freezing, make a recovery backup of "data"
hajdulak said:
I found that uptodown does host apks
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do not !
site : apkpure or apkmirror
app : Aurora Store
loopypalm said:
do not !
site : apkpure or apkmirror
app : Aurora Store
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Nice, thanks for that! ♥
hajdulak said:
I think you might want to flash a custom ROM, then use something like MicroG Magisk, NanoDroid or FOSSApps. Ungoogling an already Googled stock ROM might be more pain than flashing something community developed.
I'm currently running Lineage with Magisk GApps (so I can remove them anytime) and I'm slowly getting ready for the transition. So I'm also looking for more information.
I set up a VPS for myself (might be an overkill for you, but inspiration nonethelss) and I'm hosting OnlyOFFICE Community there and using their apps, I also host my own BitWarden password storage and a mail server (was kinda pain to set it up with all the methods for spam verification). This way some of my most sensitive data is kept on an encrypted drive on a server I myself control.
Then there's getting apps which are mainly available through Google Play - I found that uptodown does host apks, but that's far from an actually viable option (considering you really have to trust them when you're downloading apps there). Alternative stores providing the same apps as Google Play are always kinda worrying to use & trust.
So that's my two cents worth and a starting point, I'll also gladly accept some tips & tricks to accomplish this entirely, it's a long-lasting dream to leave Google altogether.
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Hey thanks for the reply and info. Flashing an aosp custom rom would be my usual go to. However I've been on an oppo with unlockable bootlader for last 18 months and now I got this samsung I find there is zero rom dev on this phone. The only options I can find are GSI which is a new concept to me and I'm a little uncertain about going that route.
loopypalm said:
i think it's better to use a custom aosp rom with no gapps
if you still want stock rom :
make a recovery backup of "system" just in case
mount system
the folders that have apps are :
system/app
system/priv-app
system/product/app
system/product/priv-app
(if you use A11+ check also system-ext/app and priv-app)
delete anyhing related to google
if you don't want to delete use lucky patcher or titanium backup to freez them
if you choose freezing, make a recovery backup of "data"
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Cheers for this. Agree on the first statement but having been on an oppo with unlockable bootlader for last 18 months and now I got this samsung I find there is zero rom dev on this phone. The only options I can find are GSI which is a new concept to me and I'm a little uncertain about going that route.
Do you think I should go with a GSI rom? If safe and stable I'm happy to do the research because I'd love to get a custom aosp rom going on this.
Afaik this samsung can't even access fastboot gotta use the Samsung flashing software instead and the only thread on twrp for this phone is experimental and doesn't seem to be confirmed as working by anyone.
Hence why so far I've stuck with stock and magisk
I used to flash heaps of roms and kernels on older devices but this whole GSI thing is new to me. If it's dicey I'll go the TB route with the folders you pointed me to. Cheers
Champdroid said:
Do you think I should go with a GSI rom?
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if yo can backup system/vendor/boot/dtbo/data then go for it
if not , you will have to reflash the stock if anything goes wrong ...
Champdroid said:
Afaik this samsung can't even access fastboot gotta use the Samsung flashing software instead and the only thread on twrp for this phone is experimental and doesn't seem to be confirmed as working by anyone.
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looks like your options are risky , google the app name before freezing ...
don't freez :
"google Extservice" or something like that
"settingintelligencegoogle" and "modulemetadatagoogle"
Champdroid said:
Hence why so far I've stuck with stock and magisk
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sell it and get a device with good devlopment ...
loopypalm said:
if yo can backup system/vendor/boot/dtbo/data then go for it
if not , you will have to reflash the stock if anything goes wrong ...
looks like your options are risky , google the app name before freezing ...
don't freez :
"google Extservice" or something like that
"settingintelligencegoogle" and "modulemetadatagoogle"
sell it and get a device with good devlopment ...
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Cool cheers for your help mate. Touche on the last point. New job with nice pay bump coming so that will be the go I think.
I use Graphene OS on my Pixel 6 and CalyXOS on the 4a. Both are very good degoogled ROMs.
I built a Magisk module for this some time ago. However, it's very likely that it won't work anymore and will probably cause a bootloop. I'm only posting it in case someone wants to use the repo as inspiration.
Kermina Awad / DeGoogle · GitLab
Google? A Magisk module which removes, Google?
gitlab.com
MartK87 said:
I use Graphene OS on my Pixel 6 and CalyXOS on the 4a. Both are very good degoogled ROMs.
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you forgot to mention that both GrapheneOS and CalyXOS are available ONLY for the Pixel phones
and the Pixels have a unique feature - the bootloader can be locked back AFTER flashing a custom ROM
Well I stand corrected ( said the man in the orthopaedic shoes)
want de-google? buy and iphone and done

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