Restoring XT1900-1 to stock with no backups - Moto X4 Questions & Answers

I lent a phone out to a friend and received it back with the boot loader unlocked and the system, data, and internal storage wiped. I don't know if they were trying to run custom firmware or what.
I was thinking of just flashing something on it, but I was wondering if there would be any way to return it back to stock (or as close as possible). It was purchased from Google. Confirmed to be an Android One Moto X4, 32 GB from my order history.

I'm assuming that this is a US version XT1900-1.
The firmware is here: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/payton/official/FI/
Here is a possible guide, I haven't done any this myself.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/development/rom-moto-x4-retail-android-pie-t3876156

dougo007 said:
I'm assuming that this is a US version XT1900-1.
The firmware is here: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/payton/official/FI/
Here is a possible guide, I haven't done any this myself.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/development/rom-moto-x4-retail-android-pie-t3876156
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Thank you so much. I was finding links to that repository, but I couldn't get any of the links to work. Yours did.
Edit: Just got it flashed and started it up. I'm a bit confused. The order screen shows it's an Android One Moto X4 from Google, but I know when I originally got it the bootup screen would play the Motorola "Hello moto" with the people flipping the f out. This one's just the Android One logo. Do I figure this out just by seeing if the OTA updates fail, and then I try a different channel?
Also, this dm_verrit notification, I'm guessing this would be because encryption was removed when he wiped it. Is there a way to re-enable that and remove the message?
I remember on the Nexus 5x there was an image you had to flash to avoid the notices about having a modified system image. Is there a similar way for me to get rid of the message stating that the phone is running different firmware after I've locked the bootloader?

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[Q] Checking for OTA Update Error

Just got the Verizon Moto X and now I am attempting to update it to the latest version (Android 4.4.2). I am currently on Android 4.2.2, which came with the phone out of the box. Whenever I go to About Phone > System Updates, it says "Checking for an available update" for a second and then the error message "An unexpected error has occured. Please try again later." pops up. I tried talking to Verizon (they redirected me to Motorola) and Motorola, where I was sent through the standard troubleshooting steps by someone who clearly didn't know anything about the phone. I tried restarting the phone, wiping the phone's cache, and looking for updates through the Motorola Device Manager on my computer (which said that my phone was up to date, even though it clearly isn't). Is there anything else I can do before I try a factory reset? I would prefer to download the OTA, but I have experience with rooting and installing custom ROMs, so if I have to install the update manually, I will (if it gets to that step, I will probably end up installing the 4.4.4 update which got sent out to soak testers).
mikestrong19 said:
Just got the Verizon Moto X and now I am attempting to update it to the latest version (Android 4.4.2). I am currently on Android 4.2.2, which came with the phone out of the box. Whenever I go to About Phone > System Updates, it says "Checking for an available update" for a second and then the error message "An unexpected error has occured. Please try again later." pops up. I tried talking to Verizon (they redirected me to Motorola) and Motorola, where I was sent through the standard troubleshooting steps by someone who clearly didn't know anything about the phone. I tried restarting the phone, wiping the phone's cache, and looking for updates through the Motorola Device Manager on my computer (which said that my phone was up to date, even though it clearly isn't). Is there anything else I can do before I try a factory reset? I would prefer to download the OTA, but I have experience with rooting and installing custom ROMs, so if I have to install the update manually, I will (if it gets to that step, I will probably end up installing the 4.4.4 update which got sent out to soak testers).
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Do NOT upgrade until you've read another 24 hours on this board!!!!! I think you should take a second look at your status and see if you misread 4.4.2 as 4.2.2
If I may ask, why not update?
mikestrong19 said:
If I may ask, why not update?
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If you dont mind having an unrootable phone than update.
4.2.2 and 4.4 is fully rootable and able to disable write protection, 4.4.2 and newer is not. once you upgrade past 4.4 you lose ability to gain write and root.
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If you dont mind having an unrootable phone than update.
4.2.2 and 4.4 is fully rootable and able to disable write protection, 4.4.2 and newer is not. once you upgrade past 4.4 you lose ability to gain write and root.
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Oh OK, that makes sense. Thanks for the info. I have another phone that I use for rooting, ROMs, etc. The Moto X is currently my daily phone, and I need it to be stable, so I am not worried about rooting or anything like that. Just want the latest stock Android version on there.
I just talked to Motorola on the phone again, and they went through the same standard checklist (restart, wipe cache, factory reset -- none of which worked). At this point, they are going to exchange my current phone for a new one, which works out for me. The Moto X I bought was used, so I am getting a new phone for a used price in a convoluted way.
mikestrong19 said:
Oh OK, that makes sense. Thanks for the info. I have another phone that I use for rooting, ROMs, etc. The Moto X is currently my daily phone, and I need it to be stable, so I am not worried about rooting or anything like that. Just want the latest stock Android version on there.
I just talked to Motorola on the phone again, and they went through the same standard checklist (restart, wipe cache, factory reset -- none of which worked). At this point, they are going to exchange my current phone for a new one, which works out for me. The Moto X I bought was used, so I am getting a new phone for a used price in a convoluted way.
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Wow, what a waste. You could have just flashed the entire STOCK SBF as per the Return to Stock thread, and avoided costing Moto money, and hence raising the prices for everybody... :/
This would have repaired any filesystem corruption/damage, which is the only conceivable thing that might have caused your issue.
Your new one will probably have 4.4.2....which means no write protection disabling.
D'oh!
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You could have had FULL root on 4.2.2.

5.01 OTA disapeared

I have a question. Last night I went to about phone and check for an update and there it was 5.01 I selected to install it then it said it was going to restart and then banner went away and the phone never restarted. I tried checking for update again and its not there anymore plus my phone is at 5.0 . I was wondering if anyone has experienced this and what the solution was. Also If I where to update it manually will that mess anything up with my updates of were I get it from now. So for example my phone is from Motorola where does it get its updates from same place as Google play store? So I ask this because I think the people who post the updates they are for Google play edition and I don't want to turn my phone into Google play edition if its different from the Motorola version.
Thanks,
You're not alone. Several threads on this in general forum and Q&A. Consensus so far is hang tight and the update should resurface.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
Factory image is still on Google website. Grab it there.
bluh5d said:
I have a question. Last night I went to about phone and check for an update and there it was 5.01 I selected to install it then it said it was going to restart and then banner went away and the phone never restarted. I tried checking for update again and its not there anymore plus my phone is at 5.0 . I was wondering if anyone has experienced this and what the solution was. Also If I where to update it manually will that mess anything up with my updates of were I get it from now. So for example my phone is from Motorola where does it get its updates from same place as Google play store? So I ask this because I think the people who post the updates they are for Google play edition and I don't want to turn my phone into Google play edition if its different from the Motorola version.
Thanks,
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Same thing happened here, I assumed it was due to me having unlocked bootloader & custom recovery. So I just manually flashed the factory image update using ADB. Easy peasy. You can do the same.
Cheers
If I manually flash the image will it change where my future otas come from ? Like doesnt a motorola nexus 6 updates come from a different server than a google play nexus 6 ?
Same thing for me, except I was waiting to be able to charge up my phone before installing. By the time I got to a charger it was gone. I'll probably just wait for it to resurface.
Same same here. Fully stock. Is the common theme for people experiencing this that they are on VZW? I am. Tmo bought phone with VZW sim.
Fyi, rebooting and charging havent helped.
I know i can manually update, but I'm hoping to confirm that the OTA process still works correctly with my stock phone running on VZW.
Its not only VZW.. I'm T-Mobile and the same happened
SirRastusBear said:
Same thing happened here, I assumed it was due to me having unlocked bootloader & custom recovery. So I just manually flashed the factory image update using ADB. Easy peasy. You can do the same.
Cheers
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Did you flash the 5.0.1 completely (all partitions), or did you just flash system.img to get the 5.0.1 update? I'm trying to figure out the easiest way to get from 5.0 to 5.0.1 since I'm (stock) rooted and have thus modified the system partition, so can't do the OTA.
mlevin said:
Did you flash the 5.0.1 completely (all partitions), or did you just flash system.img to get the 5.0.1 update? I'm trying to figure out the easiest way to get from 5.0 to 5.0.1 since I'm (stock) rooted and have thus modified the system partition, so can't do the OTA.
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Flashed each separately.
Flash bootloader image
Reboot bootloader (important)
Flash radio image
Flash recovery image
Flash boot image
Flash system image (takes a while)
Flash userdata image ONLY if you want to wipe your own data
Reboot when done
Flash custom recovery
Install SuperSU from custom recovery
Reboot
Profit
Cheers
Those like me who don't want to manually flash.. I just got off the phone with Google, and apparently within 24-48 hours the update will be available again for those devices affected by this hiccup. I'll wait.

[Q] Should I Install OTA update?

Hi, First off, I'm super rusty in the custom rom and kernell scene so explain things as easily as you can please.
Now, I have a moto x XT1053, the unlocked variant that they sold on the moto website that came with a net10 chip.
The thing is that I obviously unlocked the bootloader and installed the TWRP recovery. I have (almost) stock android and by that I mean stock with Xposed. I want to know if any of you guys could point me in the right direction, I mean, do I install the OTA update or do I return my phone to stock, and if it's the later, How do I return my phone to stock to do a proper OTA update?
Thanks in advance!
I have the same phone and was in pretty much your situation, including being rusty in flashing roms, kernels and such. I went with the OTA and am very glad I did. My subjective impression is that it's faster and at least as stable.
I thought my phone was close-to-stock, as I had removed some stuff (Xposed, notably) a while back to receive the 4.4.2 OTA. But the new Lollipop OTA wouldn't install, so I took the bull by the horns and flashed stock system.img that I got from Motorola's official firmware repository. I had to request access, and it took about 12 hours for that to come through.
After I downloaded the firmware zip file, I unpacked it and located the system.img file. Search on Google or this forum for the way to flash an img file to your phone, if you've forgotten (as I had). When I have time later today, I'll try to post a link to some clear instructions. I don't want to try to tell you from memory, as this is something I do about once or twice year since I got a Moto X (I tinkered a *whole* lot more when I had an HTC Sensation, but I've decided that if I want to keep my wife, I'd better stop playing with my mobile phone.)
I did this at the advice of a Motorola technician, who said the "most definitive way to return to unroot" was to flash stock system.img for 4.4.4. (I was part of last week's U.S. soak test, so Moto techs were handling questions from people like me who were wrestling with the OTA.)
I had worried that I might lose apps and data by flashing system.img, but I didn't lose a thing. I *did*, though, lose root, and I haven't re-rooted yet. Before I root, I'm waiting for the stock Lollipop 5.1 firmware to be made available on the Motorola repository so that I can have a backup of stock recovery.img.
Meanwhile, I'm enjoying Lollipop, which is like having a new phone.
varxx said:
I have the same phone and was in pretty much your situation, including being rusty in flashing roms, kernels and such. I went with the OTA and am very glad I did. My subjective impression is that it's faster and at least as stable.
I thought my phone was close-to-stock, as I had removed some stuff (Xposed, notably) a while back to receive the 4.4.2 OTA. But the new Lollipop OTA wouldn't install, so I took the bull by the horns and flashed stock system.img that I got from Motorola's official firmware repository. I had to request access, and it took about 12 hours for that to come through.
After I downloaded the firmware zip file, I unpacked it and located the system.img file. Search on Google or this forum for the way to flash an img file to your phone, if you've forgotten (as I had). When I have time later today, I'll try to post a link to some clear instructions. I don't want to try to tell you from memory, as this is something I do about once or twice year since I got a Moto X (I tinkered a *whole* lot more when I had an HTC Sensation, but I've decided that if I want to keep my wife, I'd better stop playing with my mobile phone.)
I did this at the advice of a Motorola technician, who said the "most definitive way to return to unroot" was to flash stock system.img for 4.4.4. (I was part of last week's U.S. soak test, so Moto techs were handling questions from people like me who were wrestling with the OTA.)
I had worried that I might lose apps and data by flashing system.img, but I didn't lose a thing. I *did*, though, lose root, and I haven't re-rooted yet. Before I root, I'm waiting for the stock Lollipop 5.1 firmware to be made available on the Motorola repository so that I can have a backup of stock recovery.img.
Meanwhile, I'm enjoying Lollipop, which is like having a new phone.
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So, should I:
Delete GravityBox and Xposed
Install the .img file found within the zip for the Moto X dev Edition
Then I'll be able to install the OTA withouth losing data?
mundofeliz said:
So, should I:
Delete GravityBox and Xposed
Install the .img file found within the zip for the Moto X dev Edition
Then I'll be able to install the OTA withouth losing data?
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The sequence you describe worked for me, assuming "deleting" GravityBox and Xposed is the preferred way of removing them. I can't remember.
The .img file to flash is system.img. You need to know how to get to fast boot/bootloader mode and perform the flash, of course.
If your experience is like mine, after receiving and installing the OTA, you'll have Lollipop without having lost any apps or data.
But you may want to wait for someone whose more up on this procedure to weigh in. When I updated, I proceeded as if I might lose all my apps and data, so I was pleasantly surprised.
BTW, I've since re-rooted, and I haven't had any problems. It's reassuring that the 5.1 ROM image is now available officially from Moto and elsewhere (info courtesy of dtg7: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61800775&postcount=11).
I'll do a Nandroid just in case. I'll do the steps above too, since all I've done is unlock bootloader, root and xposed I think this'll work for me. Kinda did only that originally for that reason but that was sooooo long ago. And also because the Moto X is such an amazing phone to begin with, I never saw the need to install other roms. Did you flash just the system.img, the recovery.img or both? I requested the firmware from moto and they approved but in the meantime I also downloaded the original too from filefactory, the exact same firmware I'm running (without modifications I mean.
mundofeliz said:
I'll do a Nandroid just in case. I'll do the steps above too, since all I've done is unlock bootloader, root and xposed I think this'll work for me. Kinda did only that originally for that reason but that was sooooo long ago. And also because the Moto X is such an amazing phone to begin with, I never saw the need to install other roms. Did you flash just the system.img, the recovery.img or both? I requested the firmware from moto and they approved but in the meantime I also downloaded the original too from filefactory, the exact same firmware I'm running (without modifications I mean.
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IIRC, you'll need to do the Nandroid backup before you unroot, right?
I just flashed system.img. Won't that effectively restore the stock recovery? EDIT: According to the readme.txt file bundled in the stock ROM's zip file, recovery.img is flashed separately from system.img, so system.img will *not* restore the stock recovery.
I always feel safer running official firmware from Moto. For one thing, the labeling on the Moto dl site is very explicit, so you know exactly what you're getting.
I agree that the Moto X is a cool enough phone with a stock ROM that there's little need for custom ROMs. I was a flash-aholic when I had an HTC Sensation. But the Moto X pretty much has everything I need. Under KitKat, I did use XPosed to kill the Google search box, but otherwise I've been happy with the stock ROMs.
Oh, and I usually eventually run a custom recovery (TWRP) so I'll have more boot options. But I don't see that as essential now. I find I'm actually using my phone more than tweaking it, which is a change from previous phones.

[Q] New Google Nexus 6 - upgrade to 5.1.1

Since I first started down this Android path I've always brought my phones direct from big red which, for all the problems it created it did make life simple when it came to identify which ROM to download etc.
This week I broke tradition and dropped some money on Google's lap and picked up a Nexus 6 direct from them - no more locked down to VZW for me if I so choose.
Previously I had a Incredible, then a GS III then finally a M8 - all three rooted and unlocked\S-OFF'd so this isn't my first rodeo.
That said I'm also wanting to tread VERY VERY lightly here because time and time again I read the the biggest reason folk get bricks is because they assumed and didn't ask questions before they flashed.
So, all this aside, here I am with my now Unlocked 5.0 Non branded Nexus 6 with LNX07M with TWRP 2.8 latest as a custom recovery and, as of right now, no root (to help ease any upgrade).
I've found various Stock ROMS out there there would indicate I'd need to be however on 5.0.1 before I could sideload a 5.1.1. Is this true? If so, do I need to blow away TWRP before I do this because when I tried previously to take the update it dropped me into TWRP.
Is there any way I can avoid all this, wipe and flash a Stock 5.1.1 direct? Wiping the phone isn't an issue as there's nowt on it right now. And should I root now, while still on 5.0 or wait until 5.1.1 (because it'll require a factory reset). Would root even survive a 5.1.1 upgrade?
I'm nervous here because I keep seeing lines such as 'T-MOBILE only' and different code letters after the build name seemingly signifying the different vendors. Given that I got mine direct from Google though I'm unsure how I should proceed because I really don't want to be left with an unhappy 6 so soon after delivery.
Thanks in advance!
R
Rachel Ambler said:
Since I first started down this Android path I've always brought my phones direct from big red which, for all the problems it created it did make life simple when it came to identify which ROM to download etc.
This week I broke tradition and dropped some money on Google's lap and picked up a Nexus 6 direct from them - no more locked down to VZW for me if I so choose.
Previously I had a Incredible, then a GS III then finally a M8 - all three rooted and unlocked\S-OFF'd so this isn't my first rodeo.
That said I'm also wanting to tread VERY VERY lightly here because time and time again I read the the biggest reason folk get bricks is because they assumed and didn't ask questions before they flashed.
So, all this aside, here I am with my now Unlocked 5.0 Non branded Nexus 6 with LNX07M with TWRP 2.8 latest as a custom recovery and, as of right now, no root (to help ease any upgrade).
I've found various Stock ROMS out there there would indicate I'd need to be however on 5.0.1 before I could sideload a 5.1.1. Is this true? If so, do I need to blow away TWRP before I do this because when I tried previously to take the update it dropped me into TWRP.
Is there any way I can avoid all this, wipe and flash a Stock 5.1.1 direct? Wiping the phone isn't an issue as there's nowt on it right now. And should I root now, while still on 5.0 or wait until 5.1.1 (because it'll require a factory reset). Would root even survive a 5.1.1 upgrade?
I'm nervous here because I keep seeing lines such as 'T-MOBILE only' and different code letters after the build name seemingly signifying the different vendors. Given that I got mine direct from Google though I'm unsure how I should proceed because I really don't want to be left with an unhappy 6 so soon after delivery.
Thanks in advance!
R
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The main reason that some users bricked their phone is that they wiped the OS and had a locked bootloader which leaves no possibility ro recover the phone
What carrier do you use?
T-Mobile would be the LYZ28E rom and ATT/USC/International devices would be LMY47Z and Verizon is LMY47E.
Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-stock-ota-urls-t2906493 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008.
Unless something is special about the N6 that I'm not aware of, the OS you update FROM only matters if you're sideloading an OTA file. Flashing factory images, you could be coming from a custom ROM(I just took my old N4 from CM12.1 to stock 4.4 on Sunday).
The current build for VZW is 5.1 LMY47E. I think they are updating to 5.1.1 now(LMY47Z, which seems to be universal now except for maybe T-Mo). I flashed mine from E to Z on Saturday because I bought mine unlocked but it had the VZW build, and I'm on an AT&T MVNO.
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What carrier do you use?
T-Mobile would be the LYZ28E rom and ATT/USC/International devices would be LMY47Z and Verizon is LMY47E.
Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-stock-ota-urls-t2906493 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008.
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Still with VZW for now, but, as I said, I didn't purchase the phone from them, I brought it from Google direct so it's carrier agnostic (well, in the US at least!) hence my confusion. The last thing I want to do is flash a ROM that's carrier specific but I don't know which one to take with this being the case.
As for the order, my M8 needed to go in two stages to jump from my old Venom build due to changes with the radio (I think) - hence my question there.
If you root, you'll.never get an OTA anyway, sonit doesn't matter which rom you flash aa you can flash any other rom.over it
None of the carrier specific roms will restrict anything, or add branding, so go for whichever.
Rachel Ambler said:
Still with VZW for now, but, as I said, I didn't purchase the phone from them, I brought it from Google direct so it's carrier agnostic (well, in the US at least!) hence my confusion. The last thing I want to do is flash a ROM that's carrier specific but I don't know which one to take with this being the case.
As for the order, my M8 needed to go in two stages to jump from my old Venom build due to changes with the radio (I think) - hence my question there.
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Just flash the LMY47E rom and when its available you get the OTA to update or sideload the OTA from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-stock-ota-urls-t2906493 when its available.
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None of the carrier specific roms will restrict anything, or add branding, so go for whichever.
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Really? Is there a reason why they exist then? Usually my understanding was that they contained carrier specific items including radios and bloatware.
Rachel Ambler said:
Really? Is there a reason why they exist then? Usually my understanding was that they contained carrier specific items including radios and bloatware.
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There's no bloatware on these roms.
Verizon rom includes binaries that make VoLTE work properly on their network where as T-mobile adds a kernel fix to allow their wifi calling to work. And that's it...
gee2012 said:
Just flash the LMY47E rom and when its available you get the OTA to update or sideload the OTA from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-stock-ota-urls-t2906493 when its available.
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So what would be the benefit of flashing a Verizon ROM is, for example I should suddenly decide to go to T-Mobile next week given that I didn't purchase the phone from them?
Sorry if these are noob questions but this whole carrier agnostic\yet not agnostic thing has me really wanting to make sure my phone stays as agnostic as it was when it left the factory, bar a VZW Sim nestled inside and a VZW APN entry.
danarama said:
There's no bloatware on these roms.
Verizon rom includes binaries that make VoLTE work properly on their network where as T-mobile addsna kernel fix to allow their wifi calling to work. And that's it...
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Interesting. So this would leave me to believe then that, should I decide one day to jump carriers, I'd be better off flashing a ROM for that carrier at the appropriate time?
This being the case, why would the phone come with no carrier specific software on board from Google? Wouldn't this mean I might get a degraded service?
Rachel Ambler said:
So what would be the benefit of flashing a Verizon ROM is, for example I should suddenly decide to go to T-Mobile next week given that I didn't purchase the phone from them?
Sorry if these are noob questions but this whole carrier agnostic\yet not agnostic thing has me really wanting to make sure my phone stays as agnostic as it was when it left the factory, bar a VZW Sim nestled inside and a VZW APN entry.
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If you want to use T-Mobile in the future you just flash the LYZ28E rom.
Rachel Ambler said:
So what would be the benefit of flashing a Verizon ROM is, for example I should suddenly decide to go to T-Mobile next week given that I didn't purchase the phone from them?
Sorry if these are noob questions but this whole carrier agnostic\yet not agnostic thing has me really wanting to make sure my phone stays as agnostic as it was when it left the factory, bar a VZW Sim nestled inside and a VZW APN entry.
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Well all Nexus 6 used to get the same updates but tmob and red, wanted approval on theirs - and now we know why.
Since google are still sending these updates and they update onto generic builds, they can only use your sim card as the identifier.
If you leave root out of it, the only way you can avoid the vzw update is to manually update to something else (something vzw updates won't work on). Each OTA looks for a specific build to flash on and won't flash on anything else.
If you do accept the vzw update, you'll never get away from them unless you manually flash a full factory rom.
Bringing root back into it, OTA will never flash anyway, so you'll have to either manually flash factory or flash rom.zips in TWRP
gee2012 said:
If you want to use T-Mobile in the future you just flash the LYZ28E rom.
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This is already explaining a lot! So, given that, as I said, I'm not bog standard non-carrier specific 5.0 (and I've yet to even migrate my SIM over) the suggested action would be to download LMY47E 5.1 (as 5.1.1 is not yet out for VZW as they ALWAYS seem to be last to the party) and flash it via TWRP? And I can do that over my LNX07M build?
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"Well all Nexus 6 used to get the same updates but tmob and red, ..."
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Great info, very useful.
Rachel Ambler said:
Interesting. So this would leave me to believe then that, should I decide one day to jump carriers, I'd be better off flashing a ROM for that carrier at the appropriate time?
This being the case, why would the phone come with no carrier specific software on board from Google? Wouldn't this mean I might get a degraded service?
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There were no carrier specific ROMs when Nexus 6 came out. Using any rom on any Nexus and they will all act the same, except you wont get improved volte or wifi calling on those carriers. Their changes will not prove detrimental on other carriers
danarama said:
Well all Nexus 6 used to get the same updates but tmob and red, wanted approval on theirs - and now we know why.
Since google are still sending these updates and they update onto generic builds, they can only use your sim card as the identifier.
If you leave root out of it, the only way you can avoid the vzw update is to manually update to something else (something vzw updates won't work on). Each OTA looks for a specific build to flash on and won't flash on anything else.
If you do accept the vzw update, you'll never get away from them unless you manually flash a full factory rom.
Bringing root back into it, OTA will never flash anyway, so you'll have to either manually flash factory or flash rom.zips in TWRP
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Now the murky seas are de-murkyfing!
So go for the VZW build for now with the knowledge and understanding that if I ever decide to bid them a less than fond adieu, I'd be best at that point flash a factory image OR flash another carrier specific ROM once I've chosen the new carrier?
And should I root now, or post the 5.1 flash? I'm guessing post because I'd assuming flashing 5.1 would blow my root away.
I assume I can flash post VZW 5.1 because the boatloader is still all mine and the flash doesn't effect that. Right?
Rachel Ambler said:
This is already explaining a lot! So, given that, as I said, I'm not bog standard non-carrier specific 5.0 (and I've yet to even migrate my SIM over) the suggested action would be to download LMY47E 5.1 (as 5.1.1 is not yet out for VZW as they ALWAYS seem to be last to the party) and flash it via TWRP? And I can do that over my LNX07M build?
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Depends how you do it.
Google factory images are flashed from a computer using fastboot.
You may be able to find a rom.zip of that version on xda that can be flashed via TWRP.
As long as you aren't flashing an incremental OTA, you can flash over anything. OTA actually patch files not replace them, so they can only be flashed on the rom they are intended for.
Rachel Ambler said:
Now the murky seas are de-murkyfing!
So go for the VZW build for now with the knowledge and understanding that if I ever decide to bid them a less than fond adieu, I'd be best at that point flash a factory image OR flash another carrier specific ROM once I've chosen the new carrier?
And should I root now, or post the 5.1 flash? I'm guessing post because I'd assuming flashing 5.1 would blow my root away.
I assume I can flash post VZW 5.1 because the boatloader is still all mine and the flash doesn't effect that. Right?
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Why not go with a custom rom like chroma? Get 5.1.1 now and personally it works really well.
danarama said:
Depends how you do it.
Google factory images are flashed from a computer using fastboot.
You may be able to find a rom.zip of that version on sea that can be flashed via TWRP.
As long as you aren't flashing an incremental OTA, you can flash over anything. OTA actually patch files not replace them, so they can only be flashed on the rom they are intended for.
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I'm sorry if that sudden flash of the light coming on in my head just blinded you, but that's what happens when things start to make sense!
OK, so, this all being the case, and that the OTA's are incremental, then in order to go 5.1 with the build from http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-stock-ota-urls-t2906493 then I WOULD need 5.0.1? Would that work though if I'm on a generic build since, if it's expecting to patch existing VZW files, wouldn't it fail because they're not there? Failing that I'd need to find a flashable 5.1 for VZW (if one even exists)?
endlessryan said:
Why not go with a custom rom like chroma? Get 5.1.1 now and personally it works really well.
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But it wouldn't have the VoLTE improvements, etc, right? Besides, right now I'd like to stay as stock as possible as it's not just my phone I'm working on, both myself and my wife got one at the same time and I know she will most definitely NOT want anything other than stock.

Moto X always boots into recovery unless I manually choose normal startup each time

I rooted my XT1052 straight after updating to 5.1, a few years back. As a result I have never been able to install the OTA update (the one which fixed Stagefright, so far as I'm aware it's the only OTA Moto did after the 5.1 update.)
I've been unable to install a few apps recently due to SafetyCheck failing on the rooted phone, so yesterday I decided I would unroot and return to stock, which would also enable me to install the bugfix OTA. (And with Magisk, nowadays we can keep root access without a modified system partition.)
I didn't have a stock image (or I had an image of some sort on a hard drive but couldn't remember its provenance). Moto's download page has images for the XT1053 but not the XT1052… Eventually I found firmware.center, where (I thought) I found the right image.
However, when flashed it (following the step-by-step guides which are the same on various pages, including Moto's own instructions), it failed to flash the `system` image. I got messages about invalid block sizes (IIRC) and then an error saying the image was corrupt (it wasn't; I checked the MD5).
This left me unable to boot. So I downloaded LineageOS (I'd been considering switching to LineageOS anyway to get Android 6), and was able to flash it from TWRP without any issues (other than the fact that a newer version of TWRP is required than the one published on their website…)
All well and good – except that now, when I turn my phone on it goes straight into Recovery (TWRP). Initially I could only get System to boot by starting the bootloader (Pwr+VolDn) and selecting 'BP Tools', which would cause it to boot normally. (I found this by trial and error.) Now, after re-flashing the boot image, It also works if I select Standard Boot from the bootloader. But I still have to select it manually. If I just turn the phone on normally, with the power button, it always boots into Recovery. Also, all the 'reboot' options from fastboot/adb or TWRP all boot to Recovery.
Now, I think I know what I did wrong. The stock image I downloaded was 'XT1052_GHOST_RETGB_5.1_LPAS23.12-15.5-1_cid7_CFC.xml.zip', but my system version before was 5.1_LPA23.12-15.5. I just assumed that the 5.1_LPAS23.12-15.5-1 version was a minor update – likely with the Stagefright OTA installed – so I went for that. But probably I should have gone for the exact version I already had installed.
Searching these forums and the wider web, I haven't found anyone with the exact same issue. But from similar issues, I decided I needed to re-flash the partition table (gpt.bin). I took the gpt.bin image from an older 5.1 ghost ROM I had saved, but I'm not able to flash it – the bootloader shows security warnings when I try.
So I'm stuck now – I have tried pretty much everything I can think of.
If anyone has any ideas I'd be very grateful!
I have the same problem, my moto x only boot in recovery mode.
Did you get any solutions?
Alexjrbr said:
I have the same problem, my moto x only boot in recovery mode.
Did you get any solutions?
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No :'(
I think our phone is old enough now that not enough people use it any more to find solutions to problems like these.
It's sad, I don't want to upgrade, I've never seen a phone I like as much as my Moto X.
cmjs said:
No :'(
I think our phone is old enough now that not enough people use it any more to find solutions to problems like these.
It's sad, I don't want to upgrade, I've never seen a phone I like as much as my Moto X.
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I found a solution!
I did mine and now it's all right! I'll post here explaining how it should be done
Alexjrbr said:
I found a solution!
I did mine and now it's all right! I'll post here explaining how it should be done
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Woohoo! Well done!
Look forward to seeing your solution
cmjs said:
Woohoo! Well done!
Look forward to seeing your solution
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-fix-moto-x-boots-recovery-t3699644
Moto X 2014 XT1092
Alexjrbr said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-fix-moto-x-boots-recovery-t3699644
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Can this solution be used in my case. I have the same problem of the phone booting to recovery on start up...

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