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Is it worth it?

So I'm about to change my OPO and I have 2 candidates: OP3 or Z2 Pro.
I'm wondering if the Z2 Pro, in your opinion, will have the same development in the future.
My biggest concern is having a choice if I don't like the stock one.
Do you think CM or other ROMS (Slim, PA, etc) will come for Z2? Or should I just go for the OP3 (which i didn't yet because of high demand 5 weeks shiptime and the camera which seems better on Z2 despite having less MP)?

We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
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Funky-Fab-4Strings said:
We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
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Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?

matrixino said:
Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?
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Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)

alvintan38 said:
Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)
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Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?

The phone is awesome,
I am using stock rom with Nova launcher.
Nameless rom is now being developed if that is your kind of thing, I and others have donated to get support for this so I think it should be good, just need to wait for the launch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/how-to/poll-whos-willing-to-donate-nameless-rom-t3456761
I suggest you also join Zukfans.eu forums for lots of info on CM / Mokee and roms and updates.
http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/zuk-z2-pro.4/

matrixino said:
Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?
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It's a really good phone, and i'm pretty sure it has a better display over the OP3's pentile optic amoled display, +the 128gb

Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow

ermacwins said:
Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow
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As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"

matrixino said:
As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"
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That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...

ermacwins said:
That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...
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The nonplus version has only 64gb rom, dunno about ram (will see tomorrow). Also xiaomi phones don't have the lte band 20 support (800mhz) used in europe (this is a must for me). Add to this the fact that you are pretty much left with MIUI (xiaomi phones don't have much developing). A xiaomi phone isn't more worth than an op3 or z2 in the end. The only thing I like is the double camera, but we have to see how it performs yet.
Also I already own 2 xiaomis and they have some annoying bugs, so I'm more inclined toward something else.
But we will see once they are announced tomorrow.

Possible CM/AOSP development?

Does anybody have any words/rumors about possible CM/AOSP development for the Mi Mix? I love my Mi Mix but I'm really not feeling MIUI at all. Would love to run a CM/AOSP rom on this phone instead. Though being exclusively available in China only really kills the development momentum from the get go. But a man can dream, can't he?

jim380 said:
Does anybody have any words/rumors about possible CM/AOSP development for the Mi Mix? I love my Mi Mix but I'm really not feeling MIUI at all. Would love to run a CM/AOSP rom on this phone instead. Though being exclusively available in China only really kills the development momentum from the get go. But a man can dream, can't he?
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I agree. I want an AOSP ROM android 7.1.

You'll have to be patient and wait it out as the devices is new and overpriced if you want it now.

Sounds like CM is in the works:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AndroidPolice/~3/wrL7SoG0n1w/
Edit:
Looks like a typo by AndroidPolice, it's for the Mi MAX (hydrogen), not our phone (lithium).
It's still early, way too early to throw in the towel....
Sent from my lithium using XDA Labs

any updates guys?

Is there no way to contribute (monetarily) to help get AOSP?

no kernel sources released by xiaomi, no aosp. it looks like on my previous mi note pro (chinese only device), which took ages to get sources released.

We could get device tree from similar device and build from there but it's gonna be painful and probably we're looking at a half baked product that wouldn't be usable anyway.
In the meantime, we'll wait for the source to be release.

Should be able to pull the blobs from the phone or the build but without the kernel source I'm not sure how to get started. Has anyone seen the kernel source yet?

Xiaomi is usually too lazy to release Kernel sources for devices which don't sell all that much.
They usually release kernel sources for their flagship mass market devices, like the mi5 and also the mid range devices like the Redmi Note and Max as these are officially sold in a few asian markets outside of China.
The low end and the phones mainly intended for the Chinese market are usually left out. Also considering their phones dont support Google officially in the Chinese market, Android version upgrades aren't a priority for them. Majority of their consumers are content with the MIUI upgrages.

satishp said:
Xiaomi is usually too lazy to release Kernel sources for devices which don't sell all that much.
They usually release kernel sources for their flagship mass market devices, like the mi5 and also the mid range devices like the Redmi Note and Max as these are officially sold in a few asian markets outside of China.
The low end and the phones mainly intended for the Chinese market are usually left out. Also considering their phones dont support Google officially in the Chinese market, Android version upgrades aren't a priority for them. Majority of their consumers are content with the MIUI upgrages.
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Maybe they learn, said this was a concept phone and aren't making many, plenty out there now, and what we're now making a white one, XDA calls the shots, think they don't check this site.

Well, atleast some super moderator in the MIUI forums have confirmed that the Mix is next in line to receive Nougat. So thats there. At the moment, I'm quite happy with the EU ROM. Its bloat-free and has great battery life. I would love to see CM(LineageOS) at one point though.
As much as I hate Apple devices for their closed eco-system, their UI is very polished. I know MIUI aims to look too much like iOS. Apart from the launcher, I dont have problems with MIUI.
And MIUI is one of the better skins on Android. I'll pick MIUI over most other manufacturer skins like Samsung's Touchwiz or LG's UI.

satishp said:
Well, atleast some super moderator in the MIUI forums have confirmed that the Mix is next in line to receive Nougat. So thats there. At the moment, I'm quite happy with the EU ROM. Its bloat-free and has great battery life. I would love to see CM(LineageOS) at one point though.
As much as I hate Apple devices for their closed eco-system, their UI is very polished. I know MIUI aims to look too much like iOS. Apart from the launcher, I dont have problems with MIUI.
And MIUI is one of the better skins on Android. I'll pick MIUI over most other manufacturer skins like Samsung's Touchwiz or LG's UI.
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There's no way a device won't get custom ROMs sooner or later it's a developer's dream.

There definitely is a way. If they don't release the kernel source, that's it for anything but modified stock roms.

http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=462506&pid=8662826
thats the only custom rom for the mix thus far and they claim that AOSP will be starting soon

In case ya'll didn't know, someone from EpicROM team on MIUI Official Forum mentioned that AOSP development for Mi MIx will start soon.

Any news?

I would also love to know if anyone has any information as a AOSP rom for this phone would be awesome

Kevinkuensken said:
Any news?
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I recall the developer said that they will release a LOS built once an official miui nought ROM hits the device.

matever said:
I would also love to know if anyone has any information as a AOSP rom for this phone would be awesome
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See my response to the previous post.

Just flash Lineage or AOSP?

Hej,
as the Xiaomi Mi 8 supports project treble.
Can I just download a ROM from here and flash it?
Thank You very much

On the Redmi 4x you need a treble enable TWRP. Dont know if the Redmi is officially suppported by treble.
Maybe we can just flash with TWRP. Have to wait another 300 hours to try :/

The Xiaomi Mi 8 is a treble device, at least it was told that any device which is released with oreo running supports it. Also the treble check app says it supports is. (Only A partition) which seems to be normal with xiaomi devices

So I just flashed this ROM.
Seems, that Lineage does not yet know a notch
I hope that maybe android auto runs without the black borders... then I am gonna switch
Android auto runs on this ROM, but all those other problems... bad photo, screen brightness locked at 50%...

derMerowinger said:
So I just flashed this ROM.
Seems, that Lineage does not yet know a notch
I hope that maybe android auto runs without the black borders... then I am gonna switch
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Nice, treble is a very handy concept. Thanks for sharing your experience.

derMerowinger said:
So I just flashed this ROM.
Seems, that Lineage does not yet know a notch
I hope that maybe android auto runs without the black borders... then I am gonna switch
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Any other issues?

Could not find a decent Camera app, the one installed is without hdr or portrait ... just basic photography.
Could not find a working Gcam for example

derMerowinger said:
Could not find a decent Camera app, the one installed is without hdr or portrait ... just basic photography.
Could not find a working Gcam for example
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i think gcam had to be modded to work.

Did anyone try flashing a GSI on the Mi 8 SE?
I was told by a couple of people that flashing any GSI image on the SE caused a soft brick, so can anyone please confirm or disprove this?

derMerowinger said:
So I just flashed this ROM.
Seems, that Lineage does not yet know a notch
I hope that maybe android auto runs without the black borders... then I am gonna switch
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Would you mind sharing your experience? What about fingerprint, and other hardware parts does everything work? Is it snappy? I'm really surprised it just works! Just amazing eagerly waiting for mine :>

Screen brightness is nailed to 50% and it cannot be changed, also Livedisplay does not work.
Also the just basic camera was a problem.

Custom roms camera quality

Hi,
I own ZUK Z2 Pro that I have unlocked, flashed with AOSP Extended v4.6 official and rooted many moons ago. I simply can't fault this device or this rom, but one thing - the camera quality is very poor. I know it was poor on official ZUI rom as well, so I had no regrets to move to AOSP Extended, which I am very happy with. And I would continue to use this outdated Nougat rom, but I am about to perform a factory reset, so I thought I could try something newer. However, I read the topics and some new custom roms are somewhat buggy. I can adjust / sacrifice some UI glitches providing the camera gets a quality boost with GCAM mod, which as far as I know is not supported on my old rom.
So the question I wanted to ask is. Are the new custom roms having a better google camera mod to what a stock ZUI app or old custom roms had? Is the gcam worth it? Is there a rom that you could recommend that fits with gcam mod well?

rybaryba33 said:
Hi,
I own ZUK Z2 Pro that I have unlocked, flashed with AOSP Extended v4.6 official and rooted many moons ago. I simply can't fault this device or this rom, but one thing - the camera quality is very poor. I know it was poor on official ZUI rom as well, so I had no regrets to move to AOSP Extended, which I am very happy with. And I would continue to use this outdated Nougat rom, but I am about to perform a factory reset, so I thought I could try something newer. However, I read the topics and some new custom roms are somewhat buggy. I can adjust / sacrifice some UI glitches providing the camera gets a quality boost with GCAM mod, which as far as I know is not supported on my old rom.
So the question I wanted to ask is. Are the new custom roms having a better google camera mod to what a stock ZUI app or old custom roms had? Is the gcam worth it? Is there a rom that you could recommend that fits with gcam mod well?
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Yes, it's really worth it. I recommend updating to android 10 (PixysOS - https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/pixysos-3-0-4-official-zuk-z2-pro-t4080859).
I installed AEX, although it has good resources, I found serious problems and the above ROM seems to be the best.
You must follow the procedures, updating with original ROM - ZUI 4, and then updating with android 10, in order to use API2Camera.
I'm using this version of GCAM:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog1150/
You have to configure it, front camera not to keep the photos with green tones, you can download an xml with the settings.
front camera Nexus6, and rear google pixel xl.
The difference of other cameras for GCAM (with correct configuration), is very great. You will have much better photos and videos.

ClaudioSandecki said:
Yes, it's really worth it. I recommend updating to android 10 (PixysOS - https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/pixysos-3-0-4-official-zuk-z2-pro-t4080859).
I installed AEX, although it has good resources, I found serious problems and the above ROM seems to be the best.
You must follow the procedures, updating with original ROM - ZUI 4, and then updating with android 10, in order to use API2Camera.
I'm using this version of GCAM:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog1150/
You have to configure it, front camera not to keep the photos with green tones, you can download an xml with the settings.
front camera Nexus6, and rear google pixel xl.
The difference of other cameras for GCAM (with correct configuration), is very great. You will have much better photos and videos.
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Thank you so much for your input. From what I have read about all Android 10 custom roms for ZUK Z2 pro, they all suffer from some bugs and flaws. Whether that is going to improve - only the time will tell, but looking at how old this device already is, we may not see a great improvement.
As you have probably already gathered, I prefer older, more stable roms. Is the GCAM mod so good on Android 9 as well? And is the API2Camera available on Android 9? Thanks

rybaryba33 said:
Thank you so much for your input. From what I have read about all Android 10 custom roms for ZUK Z2 pro, they all suffer from some bugs and flaws. Whether that is going to improve - only the time will tell, but looking at how old this device already is, we may not see a great improvement.
As you have probably already gathered, I prefer older, more stable roms. Is the GCAM mod so good on Android 9 as well? And is the API2Camera available on Android 9? Thanks
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Yes, all ROMs have little problems.
I was running Android 10, and I had a problem with magisk, and I needed to re-install the ROM urgently, as the android 9 files were stored inside the zuk, I ended up going back to the android pie.
I have a lot of activities, as soon as I have some time I will return to android 10, because I thought it was better.
The two ROMs that look best to me are Arrow and PixyOS.
AEX has great features, but it has several problems. I didn't test evolution-X.
GCAM, for me, works best on android 10. But yes, it also works on android 9.
My experience with android 10 (Arrow and PixyOS) were good and I recommend, I think this is better than the ROM with android 9.
In Zuk Z2 pro, between versions 8.1, 9 and 10, in my experience, the best ones are, 8.1 and 10.
As version 10 I can use the latest versions of GCAM, this will be my ROM.

Best version I found:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog1075/

Best Pure Android ROM for the Xiaomi Redmi Note 9

Hello, my name is Luis, I hope everyone is quite well like me, I wanted to ask what is currently the best Pure Android ROM for the device "Xiaomi Redmi Note 9" that has the following features:
- Optimized, light and fluid.
- Good battery life
- NO overheating (except for games)
- Good performance in demanding games
There are many things I do not know yet, can you tell me important things to consider.
Thanks to for the attention, I look forward to a prompt reply.

Well, Project Elixir is probably the best one, even though it got discontinued in January and it's not stable, I use it as my daily driver as I don't want to use the MIUI rabbit hole. It's based on AOSP. In other words, it's just a modded Pixel Experience ROM. You won't definitely game on that phone lol. That MediaTek chipset has already issues on the stock MIUI. The install guide is easy if you will follow the instructions on the Telegram. Group name: ppui_merlin. The Google Pay/Wallet works straight without needing to install the safetynet-patch. The ROM comes with Google Play Services, since it's just Pixel Experience after all.

Okay, thanks for taking the time to write, I hope it will be very useful... I will follow the step by step... I've been trying for more than 3 months to install a custom recovery to the terminal but, I never end up succeeding. The device currently has the bootloader unlocked but it still doesn't work. I already did several times the process with XiaomiTools v2 and it does not work, I was going to do it through commands with CMD but, I had to install some drivers which were not allowed to install because apparently you have to remove other drivers that prevent the installation of the drivers I need, I use a generic cable and another original of the same brand Xiaomi but, this charger is from a Redmi Note 10... it should still work but unfortunately it never works with both cables.
I would like to know how I can completely remove the drivers that my device does not need and at the same time remove the XiaomiTools V2 program permanently both.... To start again with the method of installing the custom recovery by ADB commands with the CMD.
Do you have a more convenient place where I can communicate with you? It would be very useful. Again, thank you very much
Mineplayerminer said:
Well, Project Elixir is probably the best one, even though it got discontinued in January and it's not stable, I use it as my daily driver as I don't want to use the MIUI rabbit hole. It's based on AOSP. In other words, it's just a modded Pixel Experience ROM. You won't definitely game on that phone lol. That MediaTek chipset has already issues on the stock MIUI. The install guide is easy if you will follow the instructions on the Telegram. Group name: ppui_merlin. The Google Pay/Wallet works straight without needing to install the safetynet-patch. The ROM comes with Google Play Services, since it's just Pixel Experience after all.
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Mineplayerminer said:
Well, Project Elixir is probably the best one, even though it got discontinued in January and it's not stable, I use it as my daily driver as I don't want to use the MIUI rabbit hole. It's based on AOSP. In other words, it's just a modded Pixel Experience ROM. You won't definitely game on that phone lol. That MediaTek chipset has already issues on the stock MIUI. The install guide is easy if you will follow the instructions on the Telegram. Group name: ppui_merlin. The Google Pay/Wallet works straight without needing to install the safetynet-patch. The ROM comes with Google Play Services, since it's just Pixel Experience after all.
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but PPUI is not very outdated? say

estebg_1300 said:
but PPUI is not very outdated? say
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The maintainer of the PPUI was the same one for Project Elixir. PPUI got abandoned 1 month before the PE. I can't say whether there's a huge difference between them as the Founder of PE is also a Co-founder of the PPUI. The sites also share a similar design, meaning they're really close to each other. Forgot to mention that PE got abandoned around 2/3 months ago. December was the last month when there was a release of 3.4.

Mineplayerminer said:
The maintainer of the PPUI was the same one for Project Elixir. PPUI got abandoned 1 month before the PE. I can't say whether there's a huge difference between them as the Founder of PE is also a Co-founder of the PPUI. The sites also share a similar design, meaning they're really close to each other. Forgot to mention that PE got abandoned around 2/3 months ago. December was the last month when there was a release of 3.4.
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I understand, do you know a current rom that is similar to the pixel OS? (that is not so modifiable)

estebg_1300 said:
I understand, do you know a current rom that is similar to the pixel OS? (that is not so modifiable)
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I would probably say that LineageOS is the baren bones one. You would need to install GApps. But it's still in development and there are only nightly (every week) releases for now. So far, I'm surprised that someone is still interested in this junk MediaTek chipset and still trying to make it at least somehow good for use.

hahaha, it's because I still don't have the money to buy another mobile but well, the case, do you know about any port for the redmi note 9? that is a13 or a14

MantillaGeBlack said:
Hello, my name is Luis, I hope everyone is quite well like me, I wanted to ask what is currently the best Pure Android ROM for the device "Xiaomi Redmi Note 9" that has the following features:
- Optimized, light and fluid.
- Good battery life
- NO overheating (except for games)
- Good performance in demanding games
There are many things I do not know yet, can you tell me important things to consider.
Thanks to for the attention, I look forward to a prompt reply.
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LineageOS is like pure android, extremely light and gets updated often, although I can only find the download link for a NIGHTLY build, meaning it gets updated really often meaning that it can have bugs, I cant find a stable build for some reason anywhere, probably not out yet for LOS 20, and you cant download older versions on the los site sadly