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If I buy the unlocked version from Samsung will I be able to use it on ATT and Verizon networks? Will there be a limitations on what LTE bands that the phone can use? Just trying to avoid the bloatware that carriers have on their phones. I have both before mentioned carriers. I really want the note 8 but if I can't use the unlocked version to its full potential. Then I guess I. Will go with the Verizon version. I have been waiting since they took back my note 7 and now I can hardly wait to fill the void lol.
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If I buy the unlocked version from Samsung will I be able to use it on ATT and Verizon networks? Will there be a limitations on what LTE bands that the phone can use? Just trying to avoid the bloatware that carriers have on their phones. I have both before mentioned carriers. I really want the note 8 but if I can't use the unlocked version to its full potential. Then I guess I. Will go with the Verizon version. I have been waiting since they took back my note 7 and now I can hardly wait to fill the void lol.
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I recently chatted with a Verizon representative regarding this very question. I asked two key questions.
"Does an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 8 work on Verizon networks?"
Essentially the person told me they needed the phone to determine weather or not it would work on the Verizon network; either the MSIN or IMSI number. My belief is there is, most likely, a better answer elsewhere.
"Does Verizon restrict any features on unlocked phone?"
The Verizon representative told me they don't restrict any features for unlocked phones.
I know this still doesn't answer the question you have. Just know that I, and others, also have the same question(s).
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I recently chatted with a Verizon representative regarding this very question. I asked two key questions.
"Does an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 8 work on Verizon networks?"
Essentially the person told me they needed the phone to determine weather or not it would work on the Verizon network; either the MSIN or IMSI number. My belief is there is, most likely, a better answer elsewhere.
"Does Verizon restrict any features on unlocked phone?"
The Verizon representative told me they don't restrict any features for unlocked phones.
I know this still doesn't answer the question you have. Just know that I, and others, also have the same question(s).
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Thanks for the reply on your conversation with a Verizon rep on this issue. I will keep my ears open and hope we all can find that answer.
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Dark Jedi said:
Thanks for the reply on your conversation with a Verizon rep on this issue. I will keep my ears open and hope we all can find that answer.
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This is from my chat transcript with Samsung technical support. Yes, an unlocked Note 8 will work with Verizon's network.
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Amit H: Hi, thank you for reaching out to Samsung Technical Support. How may I assist you?
Amit H: Please excuse us for the long hold. We have had an unusually high volume of chats coming in. I would be happy to assist you with any questions you have about our products.
You: If I order an unlocked Galaxy Note 8 phone, will it work on the Verizon network in North America?
You: no worries. I don't mind the wait.
Amit H: Yes, the Unlocked version of Note 8 phone will work with the Verizon.
You: perfect. Thank you!
Amit H: You are welcome.
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on AT&T , from experience, you lose wifi calling. thats about it.
I am interested to know if the unlocked is a DUAL SIM
ekerbuddyeker said:
on AT&T , from experience, you lose wifi calling. thats about it.
I am interested to know if the unlocked is a DUAL SIM
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From all the spec pages i've looked at, YES the unlocked version has DUAL SIM.
where did you see the SPEC pages. does anyone know where the bands are listed - want to compare what the unlocked and AT&T versions have (or miss)
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on AT&T , from experience, you lose wifi calling. thats about it.
I am interested to know if the unlocked is a DUAL SIM
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I've also been told that you lose WiFi Calling with unlocked phones on Verizon's network as well. Can anyone confirm this? I know for a lot of people Wifi Calling doesn't matter much, but when cell service is spotty my LG V20 often switches over to WiFi for the duration of the call.
I don't think there are any other Verizon features I use other than WiFi Calling, and I'd hate to lose it. But I also hate all the Verizon bloatware.
Only lose wifi calling and any bloatware that the provider puts on them. That’s all. All the bands are there.
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i was not able to use video calling on my unlocked s7 edge on t mobile. i was able to use wifi calling though
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where did you see the SPEC pages. does anyone know where the bands are listed - want to compare what the unlocked and AT&T versions have (or miss)
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Here is one example from the BestBuy website.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-note8-64gb-unlocked-orchid-gray/6002607.p?skuId=6002607
Click on Specifications, then look under Compatibility.
Does the unlocked note 8 come with a unlockable bootloader?
Be interesting if you could actually get wifi calling to work. I definetly need it as service is spotty in certain places of my house. Have Verizon but I'm paying outright regardless so it'd be the same price.
What about updates? I know for the unlocked S7, the updates were actually slower than the carrier branded, which is actually kinda crazy.
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I jumped on the unlocked version; on T-Mobile. Now I'm wondering if I made the right decision.
I just pre-ordered the unlocked version through samsung's website. I will be using it with AT&T. I was going to order it through best buy but when i visited the samsung site they had the freebies ready to ship with the order as well.
treoreloaded said:
I just pre-ordered the unlocked version through samsung's website. I will be using it with AT&T. I was going to order it through best buy but when i visited the samsung site they had the freebies ready to ship with the order as well.
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Hi!
I'm thinking of doing same. Do you have exact model #? Also, when you say "unlocked" do you mean SIM unlocked or is it also "BOOTLOADER" unlocked, or both?
If you don't know, can you send link ?
TIA for your response.
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Hi!
I'm thinking of doing same. Do you have exact model #? Also, when you say "unlocked" do you mean SIM unlocked or is it also "BOOTLOADER" unlocked, or both?
If you don't know, can you send link ?
TIA for your response.
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I just preordered the unlocked version from Samsung.com as well. http://www.samsung.com/us/galaxy/note8/buy/ It was $960.00 for the Sprint version or $929.99 for Unlocked. I chatted online with customer service and they said the only difference with the Unlocked version was the lack of carrier apps (carrier bloat). Unlocked means Carrier/SIM Unlocked. Unless Samsung had a miraculous change of heart, the bootloader will be locked just like the Snapdragon Note 7, S7, & S8.
LouK said:
Hi!
I'm thinking of doing same. Do you have exact model #? Also, when you say "unlocked" do you mean SIM unlocked or is it also "BOOTLOADER" unlocked, or both?
If you don't know, can you send link ?
TIA for your response.
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He means sim unlocked.
There is no bootloader unlocked NA device.
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
When I saw that the unlocked version worked on Verizon, I was surprised until I saw that the processor on the unlocked Note 8 is Qualcomm Snapdragon and not Exynos.
Hello,
I am planning to buy AT&T version of Note 9 from craigslist (since they are cheaper due to AT&T BOGO). I am planning to flash the unlocked N960U1 firmware and use it on Verizon.
Can someone please tell me if I flash the SM-N960U1 firmware, does it include all the bands same as if I bought unlocked phone directly from Samsung? Or does it keep the same bands as came with AT&T? Do I need to flash any modem etc on top of the main firmware to get all the bands?
I want to make sure the phone will have all the bands since I am also planning to use it internationally in addition to on the US Verizon network.
AlwaysNoob said:
Hello,
I am planning to buy AT&T version of Note 9 from craigslist (since they are cheaper due to AT&T BOGO). I am planning to flash the unlocked N960U1 firmware and use it on Verizon.
Can someone please tell me if I flash the SM-N960U1 firmware, does it include all the bands same as if I bought unlocked phone directly from Samsung? Or does it keep the same bands as came with AT&T? Do I need to flash any modem etc on top of the main firmware to get all the bands?
I want to make sure the phone will have all the bands since I am also planning to use it internationally in addition to on the US Verizon network.
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All the *American* Note 9 and S9 phones are identical. If you flash U1 firmware, it becomes identical to a U1 sold directly from Samsung and will support everything they say unlocked supports.
It's been so long and I've been googling for an hour. I haven't flashed since the Note 2 days. I am plan on getting a VZW Note 9. What Odin/firmware/other files do I need to flash and what slots ( or link me to a post).
A lot of posts on here and reddit are assuming your'e a flasher and not giving "steps for dummies".
I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
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It's been so long and I've been googling for an hour. I haven't flashed since the Note 2 days. I am plan on getting a VZW Note 9. What Odin/firmware/other files do I need to flash and what slots ( or link me to a post).
A lot of posts on here and reddit are assuming your'e a flasher and not giving "steps for dummies".
I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
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The download is slow if you don't have a premium account but go here for a good set of instructions.
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The download is slow if you don't have a premium account but go here for a good set of instructions.
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Great thanks!
If I want USA unlocked which firmware is that?
I had the old school gUDP so I use it as a hotspot
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thechaoz said:
Great thanks!
If I want USA unlocked which firmware is that?
I had the old school gUDP so I use it as a hotspot
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That would be the USC one from the pull down menu. That is the same one you get with a boxed unlocked phone. You would be better off picking the one that matches your carrier, it will still be bloat free but optimized for the chosen carrier. If you have Verizon or AT&T I have those here on AFH. There is a newer update but I don't see it on Sammobile only via OTA so far.
thechaoz said:
Great thanks!
If I want USA unlocked which firmware is that?
I had the old school gUDP so I use it as a hotspot
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Are you using the Note 9 with the unlocked firmware with VZW GUDP? Have you installed any OTA security updates? I've heard there's a small chance a security update could re-instate the hotspot check but I haven't been able to find anyone with GUDP to check.
I'm somewhat in the same position as the OP, I have a note9 which I'm guessing has att firmware, I just bought it "unlocked" from an Ebay reseller. I'm using it on Straighttalk with their att sim. My major (to me) issue is I lost my hot spot permission. I've had hotspot working on last several phones including a note8 hours ago, as soon as I popped sim into this note9 I lost it. I've tried several APN settings to no avail, everything works fine, but no hotspot permissive.
Will I have to flash the U1 firmware to get my hotspot back?
flashing a new firmware dosent magically affect the phones modem to be suddenly able to use new bands. if the hardware specs states it is capable of using bands xyz, then the phone will operate on these regardless of which firmware it gets flashed to.
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carrier specific configs are set depending on firmware/csc you flashed. there are some guides and tricks to change your csc so that you can get these features. albeit on the n960u it might be more difficult or even impossible for now depending on the csc feature you are looking for.. but searching and reading should bring up some info.
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flashing a new firmware dosent magically affect the phones modem to be suddenly able to use new bands. if the hardware specs states it is capable of using bands xyz, then the phone will operate on these regardless of which firmware it gets flashed to.
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carrier specific configs are set depending on firmware/csc you flashed. there are some guides and tricks to change your csc so that you can get these features. albeit on the n960u it might be more difficult or even impossible for now depending on the csc feature you are looking for.. but searching and reading should bring up some info.
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just set sales code to sprint then set all the bands u want.. im currently on U1 firmware on verizon network with sprint sales code to gain access to dialer codes andall is well
to add, my device is a n960u purchased through verizon
elliwigy said:
just set sales code to sprint then set all the bands u want.. im currently on U1 firmware on verizon network with sprint sales code to gain access to dialer codes andall is well
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to add, my device is a n960u purchased through verizon
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yup because phones hardware natively supports these bands:
4G LTE
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UB1*(2100),*B2*(1900),*B3*(1800),*B4*(1700/2100 AWS 1),*B5(850),*B7*(2600),*B8*(900),*B12*(700),*B13*(700),*B14*(700),B17*(700),*B18*(800),*B19*(800),*B20*(800),*B25*(1900+),*B26(850),*B28*(700),*B30*(2300),*B38*(TDD 2600),*B39*(TDD 1900),*B40*(TDD 2300),*B41*(TDD 2500),*B46*(TDD 900),*B66(1700/2100),*B71*(600)
3G
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UB1*(2100),*B2*(1900),*B4*(1700/2100 AWS A-F),*B5*(850),*B8(900)
2G
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UCDMA BC0*(800),*CDMA BC1*(1900),*CDMA BC10*(800 Secondary),*B2*(1900),*B3*(1800),*B5*(850),*B8*(900)
my original post edit was in regards to the fellow above my post(smoke229) inquiring about csc enabled features.
happy new year
bober10113 said:
flashing a new firmware dosent magically affect the phones modem to be suddenly able to use new bands. if the hardware specs states it is capable of using bands xyz, then the phone will operate on these regardless of which firmware it gets flashed to.
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carrier specific configs are set depending on firmware/csc you flashed. there are some guides and tricks to change your csc so that you can get these features. albeit on the n960u it might be more difficult or even impossible for now depending on the csc feature you are looking for.. but searching and reading should bring up some info.
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The N960U and the N960U1 all support the same radio bands. They are all identical devices hardware-wise. Actually the N960W is as well. So flashing firmware actually does effect which bands are supported since they all support all the same bands.
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elliwigy said:
to add, my device is a n960u purchased through verizon
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Yup. Mine is an ATT carrier model purchased from ATT. Currently running thr U1 firmware on T-Mo with full support for all the T-Mo bands. Honestly switching to the same device for all carriers starting with the S8/+ was the best move Samsung made. I'm anxious for the carrier switching firmware to make a comeback on the Note 9 as well. It was magical watching it switch carrier firmware automatically on the Note 8.
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yup because phones hardware natively supports these bands:
4G LTE
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UB1*(2100),*B2*(1900),*B3*(1800),*B4*(1700/2100 AWS 1),*B5(850),*B7*(2600),*B8*(900),*B12*(700),*B13*(700),*B14*(700),B17*(700),*B18*(800),*B19*(800),*B20*(800),*B25*(1900+),*B26(850),*B28*(700),*B30*(2300),*B38*(TDD 2600),*B39*(TDD 1900),*B40*(TDD 2300),*B41*(TDD 2500),*B46*(TDD 900),*B66(1700/2100),*B71*(600)
3G
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UB1*(2100),*B2*(1900),*B4*(1700/2100 AWS A-F),*B5*(850),*B8(900)
2G
6GB 128GB US N960U8GB 512GB US N960UCDMA BC0*(800),*CDMA BC1*(1900),*CDMA BC10*(800 Secondary),*B2*(1900),*B3*(1800),*B5*(850),*B8*(900)
my original post edit was in regards to the fellow above my post(smoke229) inquiring about csc enabled features.
happy new year
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You can also effect CSC-enabled features by flashing new carrier firmware, assuming you have a SIM for that carrier. Thr CSC specific features will all depend on which SIM card is in the phone. As it provisions automatically for each SIM.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
The N960U and the N960U1 all support the same radio bands. They are all identical devices hardware-wise. Actually the N960W is as well. So flashing firmware actually does effect which bands are supported since they all support all the same bands.
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Yup. Mine is an ATT carrier model purchased from ATT. Currently running thr U1 firmware on T-Mo with full support for all the T-Mo bands. Honestly switching to the same device for all carriers starting with the S8/+ was the best move Samsung made. I'm anxious for the carrier switching firmware to make a comeback on the Note 9 as well. It was magical watching it switch carrier firmware automatically on the Note 8.
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You can also effect CSC-enabled features by flashing new carrier firmware, assuming you have a SIM for that carrier. Thr CSC specific features will all depend on which SIM card is in the phone. As it provisions automatically for each SIM.
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so people getting their network unlock codes and unlocking their devices to use with other carriers are pretending to be using their phones on these other "bands" all this time ..wow?
what the u1 firmware does is lift the carrier lock.
the phones original firmware had the ability to use all bands i described in my previous post from day 1.
and i know all about csc so don't waste your breath on me for that.
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so people getting their network unlock codes and unlocking their devices to use with other carriers are pretending to be using their phones on these other "bands" all this time ..wow?
what the u1 firmware does is lift the carrier lock.
the phones original firmware had the ability to use all bands i described in my previous post from day 1.
and i know all about csc so don't waste your breath on me for that.
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I'm not sure what you mean about pretending to use other bands? I'm saying they all support all the bands. Also not sure why you're taking it so personal?
Also, the U1 firmware doesn't lift the carrier lock. You still have to have a carrier-locked device SIM unlocked, either through your carrier, or through a third-party service. At least that's how it works on US Snapdragon devices. I know you use an Exynos, so I'm not sure how the carrier study works on those. All the U1 firmware does is provide a clean, non-carrier branded firmware.
And I didn't waste my breath. Unless you actually say everything out loud while you type? Like moving your lips when you read?
:Shrugs: Hapoy New Year!! :laugh:
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I'm not sure what you mean about pretending to use other bands? I'm saying they all support all the bands. Also not sure why you're taking it so personal?
Also, the U1 firmware doesn't lift the carrier lock. You still have to have a carrier-locked device SIM unlocked, either through your carrier, or through a third-party service. At least that's how it works on US Snapdragon devices. I know you use an Exynos, so I'm not sure how the carrier study works on those. All the U1 firmware does is provide a clean, non-carrier branded firmware.
And I didn't waste my breath. Unless you actually say everything out loud while you type? Like moving your lips when you read?
:Shrugs: Hapoy New Year!! :laugh:
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my bad on the u1 lifting the carrier lock then.
but what i dont understand is:
" So flashing firmware actually does effect which bands are supported since they all support all the same bands."
if they all support the same bands then flashing different firmware should be irrelevant on the phones capacity to use bands that are already available by default.?
bober10113 said:
my bad on the u1 lifting the carrier lock then.
but what i dont understand is:
" So flashing firmware actually does effect which bands are supported since they all support all the same bands."
if they all support the same bands then flashing different firmware should be irrelevant on the phones capacity to use bands that are already available by default.?
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Not even a giggle about the moving your lips while you read comment? Come on, that was gold.
As far as I can tell, there's no difference band support wise between carrier firmware and U1 firmware. BUT with that said, I've heard people say get better signal on carrier firmware. So maybe some carrier firmware locks out certain bands that aren't typically used for that carrier. And I know T-Mobile has aid in the past with the Note 8, only their carrier branded version supported the 256 Quad and 4x4 MIMO or whatever they call that advanced LTE technology. So it leads me.to believe other carrier software maybe locks out the bands T-Mo needs for the advanced LTE stuff.
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Not even a giggle about the moving your lips while you read comment? Come on, that was gold.
As far as I can tell, there's no difference band support wise between carrier firmware and U1 firmware. BUT with that said, I've heard people say get better signal on carrier firmware. So maybe some carrier firmware locks out certain bands that aren't typically used for that carrier. And I know T-Mobile has aid in the past with the Note 8, only their carrier branded version supported the 256 Quad and 4x4 MIMO or whatever they call that advanced LTE technology. So it leads me.to believe other carrier software maybe locks out the bands T-Mo needs for the advanced LTE stuff.
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yeah that's why people flash the tmo detonator pack on rooted devices. but on stock carrier bloat free u1 firmware these 'options' arent probably there. what ever hokus pokus TMO does with their csc to lube up their greased lightning dosent change the fact that other phones having different firmware can still use their services regardless of the firmware you are on, all available bands should operate correctly. thus explaining my previous posts. which were also heavily pointed towards OP's post .( he was inquiring how he wanted to be sure he could still access 'bands' from ATT after flashing u1.) so if you take my comments into context then maybe you'll see that they make sense.( appart from the one where i stated to you that u1 unlocked the sim, but who cares it's only you)
now foe the comedy part, guess we have different visions on what comedy gold is. for instance, the image/caricature your are building in your own mind to make your self laughs is quite a personal thing. Depending on the age and maturity of ones self, it might or might not be(funny). Personally, i usually don't let myself be troubled too much with cheap shots. But i guess it all depends in how hard the other aszhole works at it..
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yeah that's why people flash the tmo detonator pack on rooted devices. but on stock carrier bloat free u1 firmware these 'options' arent probably there. what ever hokus pokus TMO does with their csc to lube up their greased lightning dosent change the fact that other phones having different firmware can still use their services regardless of the firmware you are on, all available bands should operate correctly. thus explaining my previous posts. which were also heavily pointed towards OP's post .( he was inquiring how he wanted to be sure he could still access 'bands' from ATT after flashing u1.) so if you take my comments into context then maybe you'll see that they make sense.( appart from the one where i stated to you that u1 unlocked the sim, but who cares it's only you)
now foe the comedy part, guess we have different visions on what comedy gold is. for instance, the image/caricature your are building in your own mind to make your self laughs is quite a personal thing. Depending on the age and maturity of ones self, it might or might not be(funny). Personally, i usually don't let myself be troubled too much with cheap shots. But i guess it all depends in how hard the other aszhole works at it..
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The detonator for the Exynos running T-Mo firmware. It's a bit different when talking Snapdragon devices.
And I can tell. You giggled. A little.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
The detonator for the Exynos running T-Mo firmware. It's a bit different when talking Snapdragon devices.
And I can tell. You giggled. A little.
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ill tell u jn 6 to 9 beers
I purchased an unlocked Note 9 and all the networks tell me it won't work on any of theirs. AT&T, US Cellular, Verizon, Net10 all say no. I put my AT&T sim in and it works with low signal. Why would it not work? How do I figure out where this phone originated? I suspect Sprint because any phone from Sprint only works on Sprint.
gonka95 said:
I purchased an unlocked Note 9 and all the networks tell me it won't work on any of theirs. AT&T, US Cellular, Verizon, Net10 all say no. I put my AT&T sim in and it works with low signal. Why would it not work? How do I figure out where this phone originated? I suspect Sprint because any phone from Sprint only works on Sprint.
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Did you try a T-Mobile SIM card?
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Where did you buy it?
Have you Googled the model number?
gonka95 said:
I purchased an unlocked Note 9 and all the networks tell me it won't work on any of theirs. AT&T, US Cellular, Verizon, Net10 all say no. I put my AT&T sim in and it works with low signal. Why would it not work? How do I figure out where this phone originated? I suspect Sprint because any phone from Sprint only works on Sprint.
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Go to this site and run the IMEI. It will tell you if it's actually a U1 model or if it's a carrier model.
http://imeipro.info/samsung_imei_check.html
Whichever it is, you can just flash the ATT firmware, and it will work perfect on ATT. All the N960U and U1s are identical. Just different firmware.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Go to this site and run the IMEI. It will tell you if it's actually a U1 model or if it's a carrier model.
http://imeipro.info/samsung_imei_check.html
Whichever it is, you can just flash the ATT firmware, and it will work perfect on ATT. All the N960U and U1s are identical. Just different firmware.
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Sprint, that's why I'm having issues with it. I purchased via Amazon. I managed to get it working on Net10 wireless CDMA, so it'll work. Had to activate with my S8+ though. Thanks for the link, that helped!
gonka95 said:
Sprint, that's why I'm having issues with it. I purchased via Amazon. I managed to get it working on Net10 wireless CDMA, so it'll work. Had to activate with my S8+ though. Thanks for the link, that helped!
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Well, if you want it to work on ATT, just flash the ATT firmware. Not sure why it won't work with the U1 firmware though.
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Well, if you want it to work on ATT, just flash the ATT firmware. Not sure why it won't work with the U1 firmware though.
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Does it need root? And it has the SM-N960U1UEU1ARJ5 Baseband Version? Thanks in advanced!
gonka95 said:
Does it need root? And it has the SM-N960U1UEU1ARJ5 Baseband Version? Thanks in advanced!
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Well you CAN'T root it, but no. You don't need root to flash official firmware with ODIN.
gonka95 said:
I purchased an unlocked Note 9 and all the networks tell me it won't work on any of theirs. AT&T, US Cellular, Verizon, Net10 all say no. I put my AT&T sim in and it works with low signal. Why would it not work? How do I figure out where this phone originated? I suspect Sprint because any phone from Sprint only works on Sprint.
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So if you got it with flash for sprint then maybe you need flash what was originally on this model?
I have the very same model and I just put in my LTE Verizon SIM and it worked right away.
This model is a boot locked, carrier unlocked, world band snapdragon version, that was never originally touched by any carrier.
I.E. No carrier bloat ware. SM-N960U1
rusty.gh said:
So if you got it with flash for sprint then maybe you need flash what was originally on this model?
I have the very same model and I just put in my LTE Verizon SIM and it worked right away.
This model is a boot locked, carrier unlocked, world band snapdragon version, that was never originally touched by any carrier.
I.E. No carrier bloat ware. SM-N960U1
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I flashed AT&T but cannot get wifi calling. I ordered an AT&T one through Samsung last night. I'll return this one when I get it. The back of this phone says it's an N960U.
I forgot how crappy carriers are. AT&T unlocked my iPhone but no longer recognizes it. So, I can't get wifi calling to work before switching the sim.
Thanks a bunch to everyone for their input and workarounds! Have been out of the loop for a while.
gonka95 said:
I flashed AT&T but cannot get wifi calling. I ordered an AT&T one through Samsung last night. I'll return this one when I get it. The back of this phone says it's an N960U.
I forgot how crappy carriers are. AT&T unlocked my iPhone but no longer recognizes it. So, I can't get wifi calling to work before switching the sim.
Thanks a bunch to everyone for their input and workarounds! Have been out of the loop for a while.
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Oh, my bad, yeah the "U" models do say you might lose Wifi calling. Good it worked out for you!
I would be disappointed if I needed Wifi calling, I use the cell line 24/7 here in the US everywhere I go.
I feel like Wifi calling is just giving my carrier a break.
gonka95 said:
I flashed AT&T but cannot get wifi calling. I ordered an AT&T one through Samsung last night. I'll return this one when I get it. The back of this phone says it's an N960U.
I forgot how crappy carriers are. AT&T unlocked my iPhone but no longer recognizes it. So, I can't get wifi calling to work before switching the sim.
Thanks a bunch to everyone for their input and workarounds! Have been out of the loop for a while.
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There's actually a way to get WiFi calling on it working again. Look through the carrier switching threads in the Note 8 forums.
It's why I hate ATT and love T-Mobile. Everything works out of the box on T-Mo.
rusty.gh said:
Oh, my bad, yeah the "U" models do say you might lose Wifi calling. Good it worked out for you!
I would be disappointed if I needed Wifi calling, I use the cell line 24/7 here in the US everywhere I go.
I feel like Wifi calling is just giving my carrier a break.
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Well to be fair there will be places where signal will be weak or non and then you will be the one loosing.
They don't look at break is just way for the customers to get better signal every where they go or inside whatever tipe of building...
gonka95 said:
I purchased an unlocked Note 9 and all the networks tell me it won't work on any of theirs. AT&T, US Cellular, Verizon, Net10 all say no. I put my AT&T sim in and it works with low signal. Why would it not work? How do I figure out where this phone originated? I suspect Sprint because any phone from Sprint only works on Sprint.
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
Go to this site and run the IMEI. It will tell you if it's actually a U1 model or if it's a carrier model.
http://imeipro.info/samsung_imei_check.html
Whichever it is, you can just flash the ATT firmware, and it will work perfect on ATT. All the N960U and U1s are identical. Just different firmware.
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I also purchased an unlocked Note 9 on ebay. In "about phone", the model number is listed as SM-N960U1. On the back of the phone, it's SM-N960U.
The sites that tell you the model with the IMEI number are right, it's a Sprint phone. Samsung customer support said the same thing. However, the Sprint phone and the US unlocked phone share the same FCC ID.
Does that mean, they are the same radio hardware? Is it just the firmware that makes the difference in band capability? If you flashed the US unlocked version of baseband, would it be identical to the US unlocked version? I just want to make double sure!
mraeryceos said:
I also purchased an unlocked Note 9 on ebay. In "about phone", the model number is listed as SM-N960U1. On the back of the phone, it's SM-N960U.
The sites that tell you the model with the IMEI number are right, it's a Sprint phone. Samsung customer support said the same thing. However, the Sprint phone and the US unlocked phone share the same FCC ID.
Does that mean, they are the same radio hardware? Is it just the firmware that makes the difference in band capability? If you flashed the US unlocked version of baseband, would it be identical to the US unlocked version? I just want to make double sure!
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Go back and read my post you quoted. It answers the question you just asked.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Go back and read my post you quoted. It answers the question you just asked.
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He thanked you so I'm thinking he saw it.????
so will it work?
It probably won't work as the Verzon variant of the Note 9 is designed to operate on Verzon's own LTE network.
Yes
iceepyon said:
It probably won't work as the Verzon variant of the Note 9 is designed to operate on Verzon's own LTE network.
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i asked a Samsung representative and he/she said that it will work, just to be sure i asked twice and he/she said that he/she was absolutely certain.
I have note 9 verizon with att sim, but I also test the t-mobile and it works as well
kb389 said:
i asked a Samsung representative and he/she said that it will work, just to be sure i asked twice and he/she said that he/she was absolutely certain.
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It will work. ??
ALL US Note 9s are exactly the same. Just different carrier. ??
Verizon started doing carrier locks on the Note 9 like other carriers do. Once it is unlocked you can use Odin patched to flash the globally unlocked firmware or any carriers firmware.
Yes it will work.
Verizon's version is factory unlocked for anysincard lte network across the world.
I just cracked the front glass on my Note 8 and UbreakIt wants $250+ to replace the glass/screen so I am looking into a Note 9 as an option.
I am wondering Do I have to get a VZW Note 9 (SM-N960UZBAVZW for instance ) to have Wifi and HD calling on Verizon? Or can I buy an Exynos model and wifi and HD calling will still work on the VZW network?
plainbum said:
I just cracked the front glass on my Note 8 and UbreakIt wants $250+ to replace the glass/screen so I am looking into a Note 9 as an option.
I am wondering Do I have to get a VZW Note 9 (960U ?) to have Wifi and HD calling on Verizon?
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I don't think so.
plainbum said:
I just cracked the front glass on my Note 8 and UbreakIt wants $250+ to replace the glass/screen so I am looking into a Note 9 as an option.
I am wondering Do I have to get a VZW Note 9 (SM-N960UZBAVZW for instance ) to have Wifi and HD calling on Verizon? Or can I buy an Exynos model and wifi and HD calling will still work on the VZW network?
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dave678 said:
I don't think so.
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no, but you do have to be running vzw firmware which is flashable in Odin.
you CANNOT use a Exynos anything on vzw tho. gsm only phones.
any of the N960U models will work as long as they have the vzw firmware on them
ps: it requires the vzw f/w because its a vzw service that needs to be provisioned
youdoofus said:
no, but you do have to be running vzw firmware which is flashable in Odin.
you CANNOT use a Exynos anything on vzw tho. gsm only phones.
any of the N960U models will work as long as they have the vzw firmware on them
ps: it requires the vzw f/w because its a vzw service that needs to be provisioned
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Thanks for your reply.
Are any Snapdragon models rooted?
plainbum said:
Thanks for your reply.
Are any Snapdragon models rooted?
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no sweat
the korean N9500 are snapdragon and are rootable
youdoofus said:
no sweat
the korean N9500 are snapdragon and are rootable
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btw that's an note 8 model from either China or south America.
Korean N950N and N960N devices are rootable exynos phones.
bober10113 said:
btw that's an note 8 model from either China or south America.
Korean N950N and N960N devices are rootable exynos phones.
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yes, i mistyped the n950 as n9500
youdoofus said:
yes, i mistyped the n950 as n9500
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but again n950 is not a model. exynos korean N950N is.
bober10113 said:
but again n950 is not a model. exynos korean N950N is.
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but again, G960 isnt a model number either, but people say that all the time to refer to the overall model. During the 4 years i used a G900P, you wouldnt even believe how often it was referred to as just the G900. if youd like i can go to several of your posts and nit pick the fu*k out of them too
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but again, G960 isnt a model number either, but people say that all the time to refer to the overall model. During the 4 years i used a G900P, you wouldnt even believe how often it was referred to as just the G900. if youd like i can go to several of your posts and nit pick the fu*k out of them too
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fell free its just that saying that a korean n9500 is a snapdragon device is wrong in many ways.
plus the correction of saying its a korean n950 snapdragon is also wrong. a typo is a mistake that dosen't really change anything in a statement. being wrong across the board needs to be adressed or at least corrected especialy when this information was supposed to serve as help and be informative to another user(which in this case had 2 problems in the statement). I'm not trying to nit pick at you, more at the relevance and correctness of your posts so that others get the correct information.
the only bootloader unlockable snapdragon devices are the Chinese and south American n9500, n9600, etc.. and so on
the korean n950n, n960n and so on are exynos.
youdoofus said:
no, but you do have to be running vzw firmware which is flashable in Odin.
you CANNOT use a Exynos anything on vzw tho. gsm only phones.
any of the N960U models will work as long as they have the vzw firmware on them
ps: it requires the vzw f/w because its a vzw service that needs to be provisioned
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Once you insert a Veriozn sim card doesn't it automatically install Verizon firmware? Hence BYOD?
dave678 said:
Once you insert a Veriozn sim card doesn't it automatically install Verizon firmware? Hence BYOD?
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no. they assume that when you B your O D, they assume that its purchased outright and has no carrier balance or ties financially. If you want vzw firmware on a phone, youll have to flash the vzw version for your hardware
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no. they assume that when you B your O D, they assume that its purchased outright and has no carrier balance or ties financially. If you want vzw firmware on a phone, youll have to flash the vzw version for your hardware
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Samsung's own website says it installs the firmware automatically when you insert the sim card. Yes I know it has to have been paid off.https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00078492/
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Samsung's own website says it installs the firmware automatically when you insert the sim card. Yes I know it has to have been paid off.https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00078492/
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on n960u and n960u1 devices, which are multi sim, have all US carriers csc files already. it will just switch.
on international devices such as the n960f for example, this behavior will not happen since the region of the device doesn't contain USA (XAA) csc.
but that's just talking about csc.
if we talk about modems and the technology used to connect to bands, Verizon uses CDMA. all n960u and n960u1 have the hardware to use both cdma and gsm. on the other hand, the n960f ( and F/DS or even n960n) unfortuanlty do not have the hardware required to connect through CDMA networks. so F devies wont even connect at all to provider.(neither F/DS or n960n)
this is pretty common knowledge and is not new. search and read.
one caveat would be the intl. Chinese or South American N9600 devices. they have the ability to connect to both CDMA and GSM networks plus having the ability to unlock the bootloader(custom recovery/rooting). the advanced carrier options will probably not work completely( csc). but that being said ,calls and data will work fine. uppon rooting, some of the xda community have made flashable zip files to try and restore these missing csc festures.( volte, wificalling ...etc)
youdoofus said:
no, but you do have to be running vzw firmware which is flashable in Odin.
you CANNOT use a Exynos anything on vzw tho. gsm only phones.
any of the N960U models will work as long as they have the vzw firmware on them
ps: it requires the vzw f/w because its a vzw service that needs to be provisioned
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I believe that only AT&T is the only Service Provider in the States that supports the use of Exynos devices....
iceepyon said:
I believe that only AT&T is the only Service Provider in the States that supports the use of Exynos devices....
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incorrect. Exynos devices are GSM only and will run on virtually any stateside GSM provider. The main two are AT&T (as you mentioned) and T-Mob. Exynos versions of this phone will work on either of those and pretty much any other GSM service
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dave678 said:
Samsung's own website says it installs the firmware automatically when you insert the sim card. Yes I know it has to have been paid off.https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00078492/
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it wont. go ahead and try it for yourself. For example, you wont get hd calling on a sprint note 9 with a verizon sim without flashing the verizon firmware
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incorrect. Exynos devices are GSM only and will run on virtually any stateside GSM provider. The main two are AT&T (as you mentioned) and T-Mob. Exynos versions of this phone will work on either of those and pretty much any other GSM service
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it wont. go ahead and try it for yourself. For example, you wont get hd calling on a sprint note 9 with a verizon sim without flashing the verizon firmware
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I guarantee you it will. BYOD means everything works including VOLTE and wifi calling. It basically flashes the firmware for you. https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung/Galaxy-Note-9-will-not-switch-to-Verizon/td-p/5784127
wow ...lol
lost cause.
dave678 said:
I guarantee you it will. BYOD means everything works including VOLTE and wifi calling. It basically flashes the firmware for you. https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung/Galaxy-Note-9-will-not-switch-to-Verizon/td-p/5784127
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Your guarantee is based on a thread that debates the legitimacy of Samsung's BYOD capabilities by literally saying that it didn't work for someone who tried it? That's a bold move there, Cotton.
cmatg said:
Your guarantee is based on a thread that debates the legitimacy of Samsung's BYOD capabilities by literally saying that it didn't work for someone who tried it? That's a bold move there, Cotton.
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Did you read the whole thing? Or you're just jumping to a conclusion?