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Looking forward to the latest OnePlus but I seriously hope they have fixed the appalling background killing of apps. I had to flash a custom rom on my OnePlus 6 just so that apps are not killed in the background especially the ones I make exceptions to under battery optimisation.

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[MOD]Smart StatusBar Acess to Status Bar When Full Screen

Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kiumiu.ca.statusbar.free
Very useful for gamers who just want to turn brightness up, check notification and things like that.
Thanks for linking to the app, i definitely think this is something google should have built into android. I was looking for something like this a few weeks ago, too, and here it is.
However, i think it belongs in the Themes and Apps section, development is based around ROMs and Kernel modifications, though if a feature like this could be built into custom ROMs it would be priceless.
I agree. This should be a standard feature for Android, well, as for now this app does the job
Wow, really useful app I've come across in awhile. It was always a pain to switch back into the homescreen.
My only concern is that it takes up 12 MB of RAM. I think it could be more optimized? Well everything has a price.
I'm assuming this would constantly have to run in the background. Wouldn't that deplete battery life? ICS's battery life isn't amazing as is so I am not sure I want to make it worse...
FYI, there is a built-in option in MIUI to enable this feature
it uses too much ram 10mbs for this small app is a bit much.
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6.7mb here. Doesn't use any extra battery. No complaints here.
Did not notice any decrease in performance of my phone, nothing noticeable anyway. Supercharge your phone to compensate if you want.
309041291a said:
I'm assuming this would constantly have to run in the background. Wouldn't that deplete battery life? ICS's battery life isn't amazing as is so I am not sure I want to make it worse...
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I doubt this consumes extra battery life; if so, it's negligent. RAM used does not consume more power; only CPU cycles do.
Besides, if this app was programmed well. It would only be active if it notices that the foreground app was in fullscreen mode.
Very usfull for me,thanks to the creator
This is my app. It doesn't do polling from system to get full screen change. It is triggered when there is size change in window. So it doesn't do anything until it is called by system for adjusting its size.
This feature definitely does need to be implemented stock. It's a wonder that it hasn't already really.
Thanks!

Google seems to have screwed it up with this one...

5.0 was something I really looked forward to...once I got around to flashing it however, man it's taking a huge decrease in the performance department compared to 4.4.4. Here are some of the things I noticed:
1. Laggy UI overall - opening apps, loading, caching is all much slower now - not the animations, just the time lag before the animation/after animation.
2. Bad battery life - is it me or has the battery really taken a hit? Today I got out of the house at 8AM and by 3PM I get the 15% battery saver notification. With about 2.5 hrs of SOT. Before I used to get at least 3+.
3. Unnecessary animations - I do not understand the whole "logical part" of L's animations. They claim apps now "open from somewhere". All I'm seeing is that they slide up now. IMO, it was more logical before, the app used to extend diagonally FROM its icon itself. On top of that, the animations are more laggy too.
4. Colours/Icons - what is with the colour choices of teal, etc. in the backgrounds and all over the UI? Starting to look like Touchwiz. And, the triangle/square/circle are totally random choices of shapes...the arrow, home, etc. were more logical.
5. Google Apps - Google apps are ever-more confusing to use now with a plethora of headings under the swipe menus (i.e. Gmail, Inbox, Photos, etc.). More importantly, the font is now super small...the nice big font in KitKat was way nicer and had easy-to-understand menus. Chrome is way worse - tabs have become "apps" and the only way to switch between them is to access recent apps. No more new tab button, no more swipe between tabs, and it crashes like no tomorrow. Calendar is so-so..it's harder to delete events now.
Overall KitKat was way smoother, cleaner UI, very accessible, but only lacked a couple key features. Looks like Project Butter is gone. An update is fast needed.
The Good:
Dialer and Messenger apps are far better than the stock on KitKat (UI/usability-wise). I really like lock-screen notifications.
(1) Wat? No lag here. (stock, no root)
Won't comment about (2) and above (yet).
OnlySkills said:
5.0 was something I really looked forward to...once I got around to flashing it however, man it's taking a huge decrease in the performance department compared to 4.4.4. Here are some of the things I noticed:
1. Laggy UI overall - opening apps, loading, caching is all much slower now - not the animations, just the time lag before the animation/after animation.
2. Bad battery life - is it me or has the battery really taken a hit? Today I got out of the house at 8AM and by 3PM I get the 15% battery saver notification. With about 2.5 hrs of SOT. Before I used to get at least 3+.
3. Unnecessary animations - I do not understand the whole "logical part" of L's animations. They claim apps now "open from somewhere". All I'm seeing is that they slide up now. IMO, it was more logical before, the app used to extend diagonally FROM its icon itself. On top of that, the animations are more laggy too.
4. Colours/Icons - what is with the colour choices of teal, etc. in the backgrounds and all over the UI? Starting to look like Touchwiz. And, the triangle/square/circle are totally random choices of shapes...the arrow, home, etc. were more logical.
5. Google Apps - Google apps are ever-more confusing to use now with a plethora of headings under the swipe menus (i.e. Gmail, Inbox, Photos, etc.). More importantly, the font is now super small...the nice big font in KitKat was way nicer and had easy-to-understand menus. Chrome is way worse - tabs have become "apps" and the only way to switch between them is to access recent apps. No more new tab button, no more swipe between tabs, and it crashes like no tomorrow. Calendar is so-so..it's harder to delete events now.
Overall KitKat was way smoother, cleaner UI, very accessible, but only lacked a couple key features. Looks like Project Butter is gone. An update is fast needed.
The Good:
Dialer and Messenger apps are far better than the stock on KitKat (UI/usability-wise). I really like lock-screen notifications.
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Please tell us your method of installing 5.0?
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1. Not laggy for me too. It works smooth. Did a clean install.
2. Battery life seems to be fine.. Did not see any improvements yet..but definitely not a deterioration..
3. This may be a personal preference. I actually like the animations.
4. Again personal preference. I love the color scheme of lollipop. Bright colors and white just works.
5. I agree there is a confusion with Email app redirecting to gmail and Inbox which manages Gmail..haha what a mess. But I can get used to it. Agnostic about the font size change. I hated the chrome tabs which showed up in multi tasking, but I just turned the feature off. Now I have all the swipe to switch tabs, swipe down to see tabs etc.
Even though I like Lollipop overall, I agree with several of your points:
Battery life is much worse than the first DP released months ago. That was amazing. Now, I still have a better battery life while actually using the phone, compared to KitKat, but the standby power consumption is worrying: I get a 5% drop by just leaving my phone in airplane mode for one night, which would barely take 1% on android 4.4...
The UI doesn't look laggy at all to me, but I must admit that some animations are pointless; others are pleasant though.
I like the UI of some of the new Gapps instead: gmail is really well made, especially in the tablet version, calendar is ok and the changes in the other ones (maps, keep, newsstand) didn't affect usability.
At first I didn't like chrome either, but after you get used to the new way to use it, it's not that bad. Anyway, you can disable the new tab view and revert to the classical UI whenever you want
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Lags what?? Come on. Mine is running butter smooth like never before. Much much fluid and consistent than Kitkat 4.4.4. And stop criticizing UI based on colors and all. These are subjective elements and opinions always vary greatly from person to person. Most of the people are liking this new UI. It does have a character and feel of liveliness unlike any previous android UI.
PS: And for once in a lifetime, do checkout settings under Chrome.
Odd
Got no lag issues
Battery is better for me
3 ~ 5 are taste choices not issues, i love the new ui and animation
Maybe its time to see if any oem offer better looks to your taste
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People if you read all his comments, all items are so subjective. Colors can look ugly to you but not to everyone. Battery would be because of how you use it. Gapps, are made not your sake and fonts that are small for your is enough for someone. Again, post issues that are show stopper.
@OP: Damn right they have. The OTA updates have stopped as well. I think the rest of us (99%) should be receiving Android 5.0.1 or something next month. Till then... no updates.
In chrome you can change the tab style under settings
I sideloaded the OTA and my phone was laggy and had a few force closes so I flashed the factory image and it's fine. Fast, smooth and works.
This is the price you pay for being an early adopter. It has happened before on nexus devices in the past. It's going to take them at least one or even two more updates to polish it.
Concerning chrome tabs, go to settings in chrome and turn off "merge tabs and apps".
You can turn off system animations from developer options in settings, or make them a bit faster by setting the value to .5x
As for unnecessary apps, you can disable the apps you don't want to see, or if you're rooted, you can delete them for good.
I want to say that after week od testing Lollipop (AOSP version with Hybrid Kernel) I went back to Omni ROM based on KitKat. Why? Because for me Lollipop is not as smooth as KitKat. I mean especially animations that are often laggy. Check out for example Play Store. Search any app with huge description, click "More informations" and then click "x" button to close whole description. For me this animation was very laggy. It's only example but I just felt worse smoothness and responsive in compare to KitKat. Even recent apps panel opens slower than KitKats one. It should not supposed to be so. I feel on KitKat 100% comfortable in daily use, not on Lollipop. I like new look and features but KitKat is faster.
And I will not change my mind, I'm not a noob and I can see the difference. I will wait month or two for custom ROMs and I will check out Lollipop again.
rayiskon said:
This is the price you pay for being an early adopter. It has happened before on nexus devices in the past. It's going to take them at least one or even two more updates to polish it.
Concerning chrome tabs, go to settings in chrome and turn off "merge tabs and apps".
You can turn off system animations from developer options in settings, or make them a bit faster by setting the value to .5x
As for unnecessary apps, you can disable the apps you don't want to see, or if you're rooted, you can delete them for good.
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Do you know long did previous nexus devices had to wait for the "polish" it out updates in the past?
and313 said:
Do you know long did previous nexus devices had to wait for the "polish" it out updates in the past?
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I've been on the nexus line for 4 generations, but no one can answer your question with 100% certainty. It might take a x.x.1 or even x.x.2 update to iron things out.
I would say this transition is even bigger than gingerbread 2.3 -> 4.0 ICS was.
Choppy animations, FC's and inconsistencies in apps are normal at this stage. Apps will update in time. And i mean all apps in general, not just GApps.
1. No lag here.
2. Getting 4 hours + SoT, even on Developer Preview I was getting nearly 5.
3. Everything looks better in slow-mo.
4. Touchwiz is so much more random. Colors everywhere, heavy theming, where as Google has a constant flow. Maybe they just got tired if everything being black(might've been nice in the N6)
5. I always hated the Photos thing, but getting use to it quickly. I can see where Google is trying to go.
The font is beautiful to me. I love it.
Chrome, you can change it from recent apps back to normal in Chrome settings(I don't know if you read the instructions for that)
Calendar looks beautiful, but haven't used it yet.
Now. Remember that Lollipop was JUST released, therefore only the start of things to come. KitKat had many improvements done to it to become what it was.
Curiousn00b said:
1. No lag here.
2. Getting 4 hours + SoT, even on Developer Preview I was getting nearly 5.
3. Everything looks better in slow-mo.
4. Touchwiz is so much more random. Colors everywhere, heavy theming, where as Google has a constant flow. Maybe they just got tired if everything being black(might've been nice in the N6)
5. I always hated the Photos thing, but getting use to it quickly. I can see where Google is trying to go.
The font is beautiful to me. I love it.
Chrome, you can change it from recent apps back to normal in Chrome settings(I don't know if you read the instructions for that)
Calendar looks beautiful, but haven't used it yet.
Now. Remember that Lollipop was JUST released, therefore only the start of things to come. KitKat had many improvements done to it to become what it was.
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This exact same thing, minus #3.
Sent from my Nexus 5 on Lollipop 5.0
TheLastSidekick said:
This exact same thing, minus #3.
Sent from my Nexus 5 on Lollipop 5.0
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Ohno, I meant the animations. You see it more in slow-mo. I'm not saying put your phone animations like 2x's slower.
In an Android Police post, they made GIFS of the animations. To the eye it looks like a slide, but in thebGIFS it was beautiful.
No lag here.
Battery is improved in my case ( on avg-extreme usage).
But apps takes longer time to install. But I know its due to the ART , but performance wise its a clear winner.
No force closes even on extreme multitasking.
My device is rooted just to install ViperFx everything else is completely stock.
OnlySkills said:
5.0 was something I really looked forward to...once I got around to flashing it however, man it's taking a huge decrease in the performance department compared to 4.4.4. Here are some of the things I noticed:
1. Laggy UI overall - opening apps, loading, caching is all much slower now - not the animations, just the time lag before the animation/after animation.
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Yes, I noticed this since first preview came out. I thought it would be fixed in final factory image, but it didn't.
I installed Lollipop with full wipe option (-w) and still laggy everywhere(Drawer, multi-tasking, even opening setting).
Third party apps which have services running in background are only Facebook Messenger and Yahoo!Weather, tried removing them but no help.
I am so jealous of you guys who didn't encounter this issue :crying:
BTW, I also noticed taking some HDR+ shots makes system holding more memory (and never release them).

Aggressive Doze and Auto killing high power Apps

Are there any negative affects to enabling both these options?
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Are there any negative affects to enabling both these options?
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It depends on whither or not you're dependent of background running apps to do stuff, this would make many of those auto stop or stop posting notifications obviously, but that's the whole point of it *duh* 😁
pitrus- said:
It depends on whither or not you're dependent of background running apps to do stuff, this would make many of those auto stop or stop posting notifications obviously, but that's the whole point of it *duh*
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Doesnt Doze already do this? I was under the impression that this just initiates doze sooner?
No. This is more aggressive. When i tested it on the OP3 betas it would kill Nova launcher off causing redraws. I assume it will do the same to any other third party app at least, meaning you won't get notifications either. You can whitelist apps though so if there are certain apps you need to get notifications from just add them. I would do it with any launcher as well.
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For some reason whitelisting in aggressive doze doesn't seem to work. Still miss my Timely alarm app. Or tiles app for nougat tiles in the notification bar.

Widgets Not Refreshing or Loading In Android 9?

So, I just upgraded to Android 9 and I use a lot of widgets for various news feeds, weather, baseball scores, etc. Most of my widgets are not refreshing (even when prompted on the widgets) or even loading (unless I take them off the homescreens and replace them).
This is happening with Falcon Pro, Tweetcaster, MLB At Bat, Eye In The Sky Weather, and Talon.
Please help me.
Happens to me with Timely, in fact, the app (alarm) does not even work at all and caused me a few missed days at work. But they haven't updated it for quite a while.
The problem is that in Device Care, we cannot white list apps anymore like we did in Oreo.
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Happens to me with Timely, in fact, the app (alarm) does not even work at all and caused me a few missed days at work. But they haven't updated it for quite a while.
The problem is that in Device Care, we cannot white list apps anymore like we did in Oreo.
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Of course you can!
Go into App-Info and enable background usage
Also
Disable Battery Optimization in App-Info
Reaper1337 said:
Of course you can!
Go into App-Info and enable background usage
Also
Disable Battery Optimization in App-Info
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My screen options don't look like that.
There aren't options like the ones you've listed.
Dankees said:
So, I just upgraded to Android 9 and I use a lot of widgets for various news feeds, weather, baseball scores, etc. Most of my widgets are not refreshing (even when prompted on the widgets) or even loading (unless I take them off the homescreens and replace them).
This is happening with Falcon Pro, Tweetcaster, MLB At Bat, Eye In The Sky Weather, and Talon.
Please help me.
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Are you using mobile data or wifi?
I've found so far there's a difference.
My sports side panel only seems to update on wifi.
So I'm guessing it's a permissions thing?
Dankees said:
My screen options don't look like that.
There aren't options like the ones you've listed.
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You need to enter this menu
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Of course you can!
Go into App-Info and enable background usage
Also
Disable Battery Optimization in App-Info
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All the apps that i want to be able to talk on the background have the background allowance. And i am reluctant to disable battery optimization.
But that was not my point. On Oreo, you could black list apps (always sleeping) and white list apps (do not put to sleep) on device care/maintenance. In Pie, you can only black list.
Nevertheless, i think in my case it's the Apps fault. Last update was prior Pie release. However, the widget many times is at least an hour or two behind (a clock widget from the same app).
Thanks for the feedback.
I get your point.
You are right, the white-list is no more.
I had a similar problem with my widgets.
Using my settings above fixed it.
You can disable battery Optimization without hesitation, if the app itself does not suck your battery.
I configured, HD widgets for example, usage and have the same battery usage with and without battery Optimization.
Widgets not refreshing since Samsung update
I'm having the same issue...HD Widgets, Evernote, Business Calender (all widgets I've had for years and love) are not refreshing after I "wake" my phone or reboot. If I remove the widget from the screen and re-add them, they work fine...but I'm not about to do that every time my phone sleeps for a while. This is on my Galaxy Note 8 running Android 9.0.
Is there a fix? Thx
Dankees said:
So, I just upgraded to Android 9 and I use a lot of widgets for various news feeds, weather, baseball scores, etc. Most of my widgets are not refreshing (even when prompted on the widgets) or even loading (unless I take them off the homescreens and replace them).
This is happening with Falcon Pro, Tweetcaster, MLB At Bat, Eye In The Sky Weather, and Talon.
Please help me.
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So, for the apps I want to use widgets for, I need to turn off "Optimize Battery Usage" in the app's options?
OK, I think I've got it working now.
But, my Proximity Screen Off app keeps stopping.
One more pie related annoyance, what a pity
I have the above settings but several widgets still not working e.g. Google Fit. A cheeky app that still tracks you even with permissions denied.
Anyway, I have a Galaxy A10 Android 9.
It's become a major bugbear for me.
Can it be fixed? I can only update widgets when I manually go into the apps.
Cheers,
Anthony

Device Personalization Settings

I always see this running in the background, I just disabled to see if there's any noticable differences. Any reason to keep this running?
New Rising said:
I always see this running in the background, I just disabled to see if there's any noticable differences. Any reason to keep this running?
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Not that I'm aware. I freeze mine with TiBu without any problems.
It provides:
Live Captions
Recent apps overview text/image selection
App recommendations in app drawer of Pixel Launcher/recent apps overview
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It provides:
Live Captions
Recent apps overview text/image selection
App recommendations in app drawer of Pixel Launcher/recent apps overview
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Thanks for the info my friend. Lucky for me, I don't use any of the things you mentioned. However, others that might need them will be happy to know this info :good:
Wow! Missing out on so much that makes the Pixel a pixel!
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Wow! Missing out on so much that makes the Pixel a pixel!
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Meh...each to their own my friend. I like my Nova launcher, with certain icon packs, and multiple screens. What's even funnier, I don't use AOD, active edge, soli, now playing, rarely assistant, smooth display, adaptive brightness, gesture navigation, or ambient eq. Shoot....I even drink milk straight outa the carton. I'm a 19th century man living in the 21st century!
However, I do like my add blocker, TiBu, custom kernel, KCAL control, and Swift Black theme, and my 8-11 hours of SOT over 2 days because I don't use social media or do gaming. So, I don't see me missing out on too much. After all, isn't that what android is all about....choice! :good::laugh:
I disabled it before and then quickly figured out what it was needed for and enabled it again. I use it all the time. Pixel launcher has spoiled me lol.
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
I disabled it before and then quickly figured out what it was needed for and enabled it again. I use it all the time. Pixel launcher has spoiled me lol.
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What differences did you notice? I haven't noticed any changes yet.
New Rising said:
What differences did you notice? I haven't noticed any changes yet.
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Swiping up a little on the homescreen to reveal most recent used apps is the biggest. That doesn't work when you disable device personalization sittings. I use it all the time.
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I use Pixel 4a still running on Android 10. When I first started using the phone I noticed that "Android System" had a very high battery usage on my phone. It was always positioned at 2nd or 3rd in my battery usage list with like 10-15% battery usage, affecting my battery life. Compared to my other android phones with similar usage, it was higher on Pixel.
For a long time I couldn't figure out what caused it. Played around with many system apps by turning things on/off, turns out it was due to Device Personalization Services (now called Android System Intelligence). It had a high data usage when I checked it. I disabled it and it solved my problem. Now Android System drains just 3-4% of my phone's battery. I use 2 phones and bought Pixel 4a specifically for its camera. I don't use any of the Device Personalization Services and completely fine without it. So I'm mentioning my experience incase anyone wants to turn it off.

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