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The point of the modding community nowdays

Hi guys,
I'd like to talk about huawei state of the scene nowdays. Maybe can be usefull to others.
I have a P10 branded with Italy carrier stuck ant C113 B364 so I started to think to mod this phone. Mainly because of the GPU Turbo that on sheet seems awsome but for what I've read is not so awsome.
The Huawei scene seems dead...very dead, except for openkirin and fromfuture and a custom Kernel. The point is: is Huawei messed things up on purpose to discourage the modding community?
The main thing because I don't consider now an OpenKirin rom is because Camera (it seems is preinstalled in OK rom but I didn't find any review and I don't have time in this period to make a test) and the main thing because I don't consider fROM future is because magisk preinstalled, I never had luck with root hider module, and some bank and nintendo app, don't start with rooted rom.
But If I just want to rebrand go, for example for C342 B387 which is the lastest stock fw, will this prevent me to downgrade later? because my fear is to update to a fw and then have trouble with downgrade...
A thing that I hate is when a brand deny me freedom with my phone, I hate so much, but in this particular period of my life I don't have much time to test and change rom if something goes wrong. Maybe next year, I will have time to mess with custom rom, change it, revert back, as much as I can...
So why the modding community is pretty dead or stuck on B370? what are the issues?
Are there any problem if someone try lastest stock (B387 now)? can we have always the possibility to downgrade to B370? treble? or revert even to nougat?
why gpu turbo is so shi**y?
how huawei is trying to killing the community? and why in your opinion?
I think will be interesting to talk about this, maybe it could help other than me
thank you

Hello.
Yes, i'm thinking that Huawei trying to kill community especially some critics, which they are not satisfied of update process. They don't respond on Facebook, live chat etc. First of all, they blocked servers with bootloader unlocking codes, why ? I don't know, maybe rumors about invigilation have point here - AOSP roms - less control, but this is only my presumptions. Second thing, they blocked servers with software which cause tools like Firmware Finder have limited functionality.
Huawei treat some countries like 3rd world's countries like Poland. We are stucked on B376 build since October, FF shows 4 next builds including GPU Turbo builds but no one got update on phone. Other countries like Germany have B380 active distribution, and BETA test program of Android Pie including beta distribution since few days. Lot of peoples here have branded phones with C738 region, after buing bootloader code for 4$ and debrand, they getting new OTA updates faster and earlier than phones bought in open market ! I know cases where some branded phones have approval for C432 build in FF. That's not funny.
And now the best thing, P10 Lite got updates with November security and GPU Turbo 3 weeks ago! P10 stucked with September Google safety patches. Low-budget phone have much better support here.
Regarding GPU Turbo feature, that's very strange how Huawei made awesome marketing by fixing bug in software. First they limited performance then fixed them to increasing their sale.
Today, i know that i bought my first and last Huawei.
Regards,
Matt.

Thank you @dm1991 it's a nice answer. For me p10 will be the last huawei ever.
Btw now I'd like to discover if its true that there are issue on downgrading from build above b370

P20 Pro - stock Android, root, where to start?

I went from a rooted Nexus 6P to a P20 Pro a few months ago. While I like the hardware, love the camera, I am not a fan of the EMUI Android OS skin, or the lack of root. I specifically prefer the GApps over the Huawei ecosystem of apps that comes pre-installed.
I would like to install a 'stock' Android ROM, similar to my old Nexus 6P, including root. However, I am a bit overwhelmed by all the options available, required steps to get there and the issues people seem to be having. Especially compared to my old Nexus 6P where unlocking and rooting were a breeze.
Note that I am not that experienced with rooting and custom android roms, but I got around my Nexus 6P and guides pretty well.
Could you please point me in the direction what steps I need to take in my situation?
I reckon I first need to unlock my bootloader. I saw some retailers starting to offer these again. Will keep a close eye on those developments!
What ROM should I go for that best reflects the 'stock' Android experience with as few customizations as possible? I figured LineageOS or CypherOS are the most popular and well maintained roms.
I always updated my P20 Pro to the latest version whenever it came out. Is that an issue and/or should I downgrade first?
Can I get the same camera experience on the custom 'stock' Android ROMs? The one thing I like about the Huawei software is the camera that fully uses the 3 hardware lenses.
How is the device updated after installing a custom ROM. Does it support OTAs? On my Nexus 6P I had to manually flash the monthly updates which got quite annoying.
Any other tips, risks or things I should know before starting?
Thanks for helping me out!

Anyone got any tips? Looks like the keys to unlock bootloader are available again, albeit at a higher cost. Would like to start experimenting!

I'm also on that quest to @chillzilla. No one has responded a couple of videos online especially the tutorial for the lineage OS.

Got my code off FH last Friday and unlocked the bootloader.
Since then, I have been trying to work out how to root it and then rebrand it.
Not found anything concrete to work from yet, a lot of guides are old.

I heard about open kirin and I think it's could be the best usage right now, about the camera you can install the apk file of the real rom it's works like a charm. Fill free to take a look I created a poll about the best rom that we can use and see the options and choose what you want to like.
Happy hacking

P40 Pro + or should I avoid it

Hi Guys,
my wife is still using her p20 pro and she likes do upgrade it.
Use Case: Facebook/Messenger, Line App, Youtube (mybe google maps but thats rly kind of optional)
98% front camera
So I was looking for the best frontcam or selfie camera I can find, regardless of price.
p40 pro+ seems to be the best (checked s20 ultra too).
She does not need any more apps (maybe some kind oof photo editing but not soecial ones)
Would you recommend upgrading to p40 pro+ ?
Thank you
BR, Konz

I too have a P20 Pro and what an excellent phone it has been. I bought a P40 Pro + in October last year and it took me a very long time to get GMS sorted out on the phone.
My phone arrived pre-installed with 10.1.0.176. I achieved installing GMS by downgrading to 10.1.0.145; whilst I was finally able to install GMS, I have achieved it at the cost of losing OTA updates. I am currently looking to fix this (see this thread) but it seems the firmware I need is no longer available - so I am stuck again.
Yes, the phone & hardware is great but Huawei are doing their level best to make sure you can't use that hardware in the way you might want.
If you are willing to go through a whole lot of pain, then you *might* end up with a great phone. It's March 2021, six months down the line and I am still not there.
Huawei could have stuck the big finger up at Google & poured their immense dev effort into contributing & sorting out MicroG, but it seems that's far to altruistic for Huawei. They could have unlocked the bootloader but again that's far too altruistic for Huawei, for whom it seems to me your very expensive phone is simply a doorway into your private life and as a customer you really don't matter at all.
Looking back and considering the stuffy response I received to my support request, I'd advise your wife to hang on the her very decent P20 Pro and wait for another company to include a 10x zoom.
In short, in my humble opinion Huawei does not deserve your wife's custom.
With my best regards, Kitty Cat.

AndroidKittyCat said:
I too have a P20 Pro and what an excellent phone it has been. I bought a P40 Pro + in October last year and it took me a very long time to get GMS sorted out on the phone.
My phone arrived pre-installed with 10.1.0.176. I achieved installing GMS by downgrading to 10.1.0.145; whilst I was finally able to install GMS, I have achieved it at the cost of losing OTA updates. I am currently looking to fix this (see this thread) but it seems the firmware I need is no longer available - so I am stuck again.
Yes, the phone & hardware is great but Huawei are doing their level best to make sure you can't use that hardware in the way you might want.
If you are willing to go through a whole lot of pain, then you *might* end up with a great phone. It's March 2021, six months down the line and I am still not there.
Huawei could have stuck the big finger up at Google & poured their immense dev effort into contributing & sorting out MicroG, but it seems that's far to altruistic for Huawei. They could have unlocked the bootloader but again that's far too altruistic for Huawei, for whom it seems to me your very expensive phone is simply a doorway into your private life and as a customer you really don't matter at all.
Looking back and considering the stuffy response I received to my support request, I'd advise your wife to hang on the her very decent P20 Pro and wait for another company to include a 10x zoom.
In short, in my humble opinion Huawei does not deserve your wife's custom.
With my best regards, Kitty Cat.
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Sir
Pls can you tell me the whole process how to downgrading and install gas?
Niraj
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Don't ever buy a phone without a bootloader unlock option if you're a XDA user.
I'm returning my P40Pro+, felt completely trapped with critical apps unavailable (2FA Authenticator, Banks...).
SAD, but Huawei is becoming a software provider, so...

komnz said:
Use Case: Facebook/Messenger, Line App, Youtube (mybe google maps but thats rly kind of optional)
She does not need any more apps (maybe some kind oof photo editing but not soecial ones)
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These applications run without the express need for GMS.
However, GMS can be installed on the P40 pro without any problems, I don't see why this could not be done on the P40 pro + as well.
With GMS installed you will have a 100% functional phone with no GMS restrictions.
Contact @ badmania98 and he will clarify in detail, what can be done and what not. But I think so, that GMS can be installed without problems and she will be able to use the phone at full capacity, without restrictions.
@RedWave31,
I don't think the P40 pro + is too different from the P40 pro ...
I installed GMS on the P40 pro since I bought it and used it without any problems, including NFC payment (in the meantime I switched to Mate40 pro, P40 pro remained with my son).

Harmony OS upgrade for P20 Pro in 2022 H1

promised here https://liliputing.com/2021/06/huaweis-3-new-matepad-tablets-run-harmonyos.html

I'm skeptical but that's interesting. I'll have to replace the device anyway this fall (as I need a recent version of Google enterprise services to run on my device) but I suppose it would be nice to have some updates on the P20 Pro if only as a backup device

I already moved on but keeping P20 Pro as backup device (battery replaced). It is very nice form factor, quite light, and camera is still very good even by modern standards. Anyway, will be reading reports of Harmony OS upgrades on P40 with great interest. Not a fan of Huawei UI, but it might be nice to get updates and patches for a 4 year old device

This is good and bad at the same time. On one hand, Huawei has finally adapted a good alternative for android, which means more competition(even if it is a fork). Also we might get Apple-like updates, only time will tell. These updates are opt-in so you are not obligated to use HarmonyOS. On the other hand, you can say goodbye to Google services and any root methods that were possible and not found yet. Huawei"s services are still trash and I fear we won't be able to remove the system apps even with adb. If they pull an ultimatum and allow us to unlock our bootloaders/root our phones.....New OS or not, I am moving to another companies. Maybe Asus/Sony/Xiaomi

Well HarmonyOS really? I don't see a Point Moving to it.. Im more than Happy to use LineageOS 16.0 on it Instead a few Months ago, Well HarmonyOS doesnt Include Google Apps and Kills Root Methods.. well i don't care i will Stick with other Operating Systems on my P20 Pro and will not Go Back to Huawei's Made Software until i will in the Future move to a Different Manufacture (Xiaomi or OnePlus)
In terms of software, I am totally disappointed with Huawei .. also how they Handle the Bootloader Unlock with a code .. Like there is something to hide about EMUI.. sorry but that's ridiculous.

You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:

bluetooth-bug said:
You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:
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It's the first time I see anyone address the fact Harmony might support GMS. I don't think anyone here was knowingly spreading misinformation, but were rather making reasonable assumptions (I also assumed HarmonyOS wouldn't support GMS, even on my P20). I hope what we see in the video carries over to the final version, it would add a couple of years to the life of the phone

I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Bottom line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)

andrei80 said:
I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Born line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)
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I agree it's still a serviceable phone, but there are a couple of reasons I will need to jump ship. Lack of a major Android update (we'll be 2 versions behind and my employer doesn't let us keep a phone beyond n-1), and lack of security updates. Locking the bootloader midway through the sales cycle for this phone was a big mistake, it would have been one for the ages.

Guys good news. We gonna get HarmonyOS. Except it will be EMUI 12.
https://www.facebook.com/HUAWEICommunityGlobal/posts/3031974087090494

There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...

andrei80 said:
There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...
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Seeing as we didn't get Android 11 on this phone, I'd be surprised if they provided Android 12. That would be a first, as far as I can tell.

EMUI 12 (beta for now) for older global devices has been confirmed to be Android 10 - based with some bits of HarmonyOS UI code. Nova 9 has been an exception, as it was released with Android 11 - based EMUI 12.x. I highly doubt we will ever get an updated Android 11 - based EMUI 12 on our older devices, when it gets out of Beta.
[EMUI 12] The Taste of HarmonyOS
UPDATE 11/11/2021: EMUI 12 beta program for Mate 40 Pro, P40, P40 Pro, P40 Pro Plus, Mate 30 Pro stared in East Asia and Russia, and now is expanding to some markets in Europe. Download beta app and check if you can participate: https://bit.ly/Bet
consumer.huawei.com
https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/comments/qzmn3t

Well, thats mega annoying, had some hope we get a up2date OS once again. Shame on Huawei, after my P20 Pro im done with them for sure too. Not that they restrict Hardware Levels, APIs and so on, but this is too much on top.

Can you record phone calls with this OS?

this morning I received notification that there is update to emui 12.0.0.225, size 4.42GB. downoloading

In Romania too. Not yet on my phone though

not much changed, mostly control center in the shade

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not much changed, mostly control center in the shade
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Yup. I've been using it on my p30pro. Not a spectacular change

After 10 years I want to get back to fiddling with a new phone. Need your advice!

Hey everyone,
Story:
back in 2012 I bought an Samsung S3 and did everything a tinkerer would, I rooted the phone, tried several roms, edited those roms, installed AMAzing apps such as droidwall and adblock, I loved and cared Alot for that phone. Unfortunately it brke at some point (I think I dropped it after 7 Years). then I had no time so I bought a Huawei p20 Lite, I hated the OS, I hated that it has a quickcharge function which I cannot diable, which reduces battery life by alot, I think there is a lot wrong with the Phone's software and subsequently its hardware. Now, after 4 years, the battery is drained within one day of barely using the phone and it has some cracks on the display.
Question:
I want to get back to fiddling around, I want to buy a new Android Phone and install a custom ROM, I wanna edit my stuff and preferably change the battery more easily (lets be hones, its aleays easy). BUT Since i haven't been up to date with the Phone market and the ROM community for a very long time I don't know where to start. Can you guys tell which phone and ROM combo you're using and what for? is AOSP still a thing? I am not a big mobile gamer or user in general, I use it for messaging and taking notes so no fancy stuff is required.
Any tips and info's are appreciated.
For context: I had a rooted Galaxy S3 with the WanamLite ROM, I had Droidwall, adblock and some other roms for backing up and everything. SOmething similar to that would be splendid. Bonus for customizable ROM (in regards of the Theme)
Thanks for taking the Time
Sincerely
Gram

Avoid phones from Oppo, Vivo, Honor, Huawei, Tecno, Infinix, Nokia, etc. (That don't let you unlock your phone's bootloader) like the plague.
Xiaomi, Poco (well Poco is a part of Xiaomi) and OnePlus phones are highly recommended as, apart from easily allowing you to unlock bootloader (once you do that, sky is the limit), they make the kernels of their phones open source, making custom rom development much easier.
And if you're looking for a specific phone, I'd recommend the Redmi Note 10 Pro, the recently launched Poco F4 or if it's available, then go for with either Redmi K20 Pro or the OnePlus 7 series phones (I'd prefer the 7 Pro or the 7T Pro).