I'd appreciate some help... Exfat/NTFS and stuff - Razer Phone 2 Questions & Answers

So I'm kinda new to this rooting thing. Currently on my first rooted phone, and have been loving the experience.
But I've run into an issue that I'm not sure how to solve. My phone doesn't support exfat or NTFS for portable storage SD cards. And the files I keep are too big for fat32 to handle.
I know I can format as internal shared storage and use ext4 that way, but I really hate how internal shared storage encrypts everything on the SD. I don't want to tie the data on my SD card to the lifespan of my phone, or to the lifespan of however long before I do a factory reset.
Is there a way to change what os my phone runs in order to move to something that supports exfat? And if so, can you please give me a noob friendly way of how to do that?

Supposedly this Kernel is supposed to give exFAT support when used with a Magisk module.
P.S., where this is your first time ROMming and such, some quick tips: Make sure you flash everything on a high charge (80% or higher), and through a USB you're not worried about having any frays or anything. I'll always use the nicest, newest USB I have just to play it safe. Razer specifically states on their site that the cable included with the phone 2 is NOT intended for flashing any files -- only for massive power passthrough. It's also always a good idea to keep a backup / original image somewhere handy in case **** hits the fan... because believe me, you'll brick your OS one day, and it'll be nice to have a quick fix so you're not out a phone. Feel free to PM if you've got any other general Root/ROM questions!

Zalgus said:
So I'm kinda new to this rooting thing. Currently on my first rooted phone, and have been loving the experience.
But I've run into an issue that I'm not sure how to solve. My phone doesn't support exfat or NTFS for portable storage SD cards. And the files I keep are too big for fat32 to handle.
I know I can format as internal shared storage and use ext4 that way, but I really hate how internal shared storage encrypts everything on the SD. I don't want to tie the data on my SD card to the lifespan of my phone, or to the lifespan of however long before I do a factory reset.
Is there a way to change what os my phone runs in order to move to something that supports exfat? And if so, can you please give me a noob friendly way of how to do that?
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Ill try and type something up as soon as I get it working been running into issues when trying to get arter97 kernel working with exfat.

I got it working and the steps I took are in the link here
I posted it in the kernel thread since I was having issues with that.

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[Q] Convert SDCard to MainMem so External_SD becomes SDCard?

Hi there,
Is there a way to make the add the internal SD card to the main memmory? So that there would not be an internal SD card anymore?
I do not mean swapping the moutpoints around so my External_SD becomes my primary and my internal my second....
I want to get rid of the internal one alltogether (adding it to main memory).
I figure that I'll have to format the storage in a certain way... would that do it?
Can someone tell me step by step what to do?
I do have CW-mod installed.
I did search the forum, but couldnt find anything conclusive. Just hints that it should be possible...
If there already is a thread where all this is explained, please point me to it, because I couldn't find it.
Thanks,
Pfeffa-rah
I don't think this is possible , never heard of someone who did it
I have no idea how to do that. My question is... why would you want to do that?
Having an internal_sd partition adds the benefit of having big app data (such as those in Gameloft games) sit in a very fast partition and still be called "sddata".
Also, it's mountable via PC so everything in there can still be backed up. So it's best of both worlds really.
This was discussed some time ago in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013575
There were ideas on how to remount the cards at boot. I myself come to the conclusion that since more phones start to behave in this way, app developers will have to start dealing with it. It just sucks they are mostly slow on the uptake. My main problem was the Spotify cache location being hard coded so I resorted to hack the Spotify apk.
PS. salisbury_steak: What is it with people like you that every time someone has a question on how to do something, your immediate response is "But why would you want to do that?!".
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PS. salisbury_steak: What is it with people like you that every time someone has a question on how to do something, your immediate response is "But why would you want to do that?!".
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That was actually an honest question.
I wanted to understand why he wanted to do it. (i.e. What would be the advantages of it.) There was no supposed sarcasm in there.
how about the ability to install 5x more applications?
Having that stupid 5gb partition as sd card and the real sd card as a sub folder is retarded...
My 32GB class 10 cars is a lot faster than the internal one.
The internal 5gb memory is MUCH TOO SMALL!!! Most apps don't allow you to store data on the external card. If you like me and many others install some games that download aditional data + a nav app that downloads maps for europe + some streaming music app like wimp that can cache music for offline play then you are ****ed with LG's setup.
The setup CM7 uses solves the main problem but effectively wastes the 5gb by mounting it at emmc where like 0,0001% of apps are able to access it.
So adding those otherwise wasted 5gb to the main memory would be great. But i have not seen any solution to that yet :-(
Thank you Gensplejs for explaining that to them. I had no idea how to reply to that since it seemed so obvious to me.
This thread was ment to be a question about how to do it and not to discuss the usefullness of it. That is where I lost the way in other threads...
So, thanks for your replys all (realy).
But now, back On-Topic:
How would I do it?
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Please don't blame me if you tried it and you screwed up your phone.. It's your choice...
Well, I don't know if this would work, but this is how I would do it (accepting the fact that I'd loose almost 2GB of /data's free space):
1. Format your internal sd card to the same file system as your /data partition is (ext3 or ext4)
2. Copy every file from /data 1:1 to your sdcard (cp -R /data/* /sdcard)
3. I don't know when and where the partitions are mounted (maybe init.rc??)...anyways change the target there and let /data point to the internal sd card partition (so it is ensured that it is mounted automatically to the new location)
4. Reboot and keep your fingers crossed
I think i figured how to do it in theory. First we need some free space at our microsd to cp /data. Then we should repartition with fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 and p9 into one partition and change vold.fstab to mount only externalsd at /sdcard as we do when we swap partitions. In theory it should work but i cant test it right now or make a script since ve gone vacations and i dont have a pc to restore in case of error
I agree.. certain apps wont store to sdcard.. its better to use the whole 8gb as phone storage, and use external sdcard as default sdcard.
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What ive found till now is that sd swapping is easy. You can do it by tweaking only vold.fstab. But repatriationing is a pain in the ass. Looks like lg has "faulty" partitions or something and to do it you must mesh up with with almost half partitions.
I had to rebuilt boot lgdrm recovery data and sdcard to make em half work. So it probably isnt worth the trouble. Also I think init.rc is built on the boot. So just remounting internal sd to /data wont work either.
sectors is not space
it says 7996, so thats 8GB
i saw it in hurry. the brain sometimes belives whats he want to belive
sorry
New to XDA
Hello everybody,
I'm new to android and i'm trying to find out how to solve the problem posted in this thread.
I see you've got the awnser but i don't know how to do this.
I've been searching google and XDA for ever but i just can't find the awnser.
Could you make a step by step howto or point out to a post how to do this.
I mean converting your external sd to ext4 and change the mounting points.
I'm a complete nood, i didn't get adb to work on my pc, ext4 recovery is not for the p990 2x.
I've read something abbout changing fstap for swapping te mounting points for sdcard and emmc, witch is also ok for me, but formating to ext4... wel i frankly don't know how to do this.
I'm quite stuk on this.
The only partitioning experience i've got is Gparted in Ubuntu or repartitioning in Windows 7.
Thans in andvance!
Greetz,
JMG
http://android.modaco.com/topic/347...-partitions/page__gopid__1821791#entry1821791
check this
you can expand data partition , but there is a limitation of 1.75gb
Thanks davjan
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
Jean Michel Gaar said:
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
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what rom are you using? is your phone rooted?
swapping internal with internal sd is very easy
and most of the roms here on xda are ext4 , if you instal one of them they autoconvert to ext4
Jean Michel Gaar said:
Thanks davjan,
As far i can see it's indeed not worth it.
I wil have to go on and try to find out how to change the filesystem to ext4 and swap the internal and external sd.
That way i get more usable space instead of a big datastorage witch cannot contain program data.
But thanks for the quick reply.
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I you read the link provided you'll see that it makes what you want: grow internal filesystem = lower SDcard usable space. The only thing is that it doesn't seem possible is to use the whole space: system limitation. 75Markus tried high /system and /data values and phone didn't work.
See in his Mediafire Folder, 'Nvflash + guide for changing Partitions:
http://www.mediafire.com/75markus
Ext4 is now common with custom ROMs (in fact all of them).
You should search in sd-ext partition system, which was designed to artificially expand filesystem on older phones using an 'ext' partition. I didn't heard anybody using this on O2X.
If you use CyanogenMod based ROMs, your external card will be mounted ad /sdcard by default.
Switching internal and external SD
Thanks guy's,
I'll check it out.
I've been using cyanogenmod 7.1 stable with vorkkernel 20110208.
But that gave me batterydrains while using maps and nextvid ate the same time (while i'm driving).
Now i'm trying MIUI 1.11.11 with latest swift extreme.
But MIUI is very buggy so i'm thinking of going back to CM.
The only thing is that my phone won't boot with the latest vorkkernel.

SanDisk Ultra 64GB microSDXC Class 10 Formatting

Just got the card for my i9305 and need advice from you guys formatting it. I'll usually put game files, music video, movies etc in it and I don't really see any file that could be larger than 4GB (if there are do give me an example). Now my question is what should I format it to? FAT32? NTFS? exFAT?. I'd probably go with exFAT cuz then you can put files larger than 4GB but I've heard that exFAT has issue getting the file corrupted and read many people complaining about it in this forum. NTFS can also consume files larger than 4GB but I've never heard anyone formatting it to NTFS. Now FAT32 is what most people are preferring. What do you guys think? Please explain this issue briefly so that I can take a decision.
Thank You!!
Ishan Sardar said:
Just got the card for my i9305 and need advice from you guys formatting it. I'll usually put game files, music video, movies etc in it and I don't really see any file that could be larger than 4GB (if there are do give me an example). Now my question is what should I format it to? FAT32? NTFS? exFAT?. I'd probably go with exFAT cuz then you can put files larger than 4GB but I've heard that exFAT has issue getting the file corrupted and read many people complaining about it in this forum. NTFS can also consume files larger than 4GB but I've never heard anyone formatting it to NTFS. Now FAT32 is what most people are preferring. What do you guys think? Please explain this issue briefly so that I can take a decision.
Thank You!!
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exFAT vs. FAT32; exFAT always wins. And you can't be sure that you can read NTFS in Android.
CalInTheZone said:
exFAT vs. FAT32; exFAT always wins. And you can't be sure that you can read NTFS in Android.
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okay..but what about the corrupting file issue? did u ever face that kind of problem??
Ishan Sardar said:
okay..but what about the corrupting file issue? did u ever face that kind of problem??
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Never ever had a problem with a SD card if you don't count the sh*tt* Sony cr*p that I had the "pleasure" to own...
Ishan Sardar said:
okay..but what about the corrupting file issue? did u ever face that kind of problem??
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I think what you're talking about is people switching from Samsung-based ROMs to AOSP-based ROMs. Microsoft is charging licensing fees for exFAT drivers, and while there are open source drivers available, none of them can be included in Linux or Linux-based projects (at least not in any official manner *hint* *hint*) due to patents that Microsoft have on the exFAT filesystem. The result of this is that people think their stuff is gone because Android reports it as uninitialised or corrupted, when in reality Android simply can't read it. Current CyanogenMod kernels (and I think Samsung-based as well) have FUSE support, which is a requirement of the current open source implementations *hint* *hint*.
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I think what you're talking about is people switching from Samsung-based ROMs to AOSP-based ROMs. Microsoft is charging licensing fees for exFAT drivers, and while there are open source drivers available, none of them can be included in Linux or Linux-based projects (at least not in any official manner *hint* *hint*) due to patents that Microsoft have on the exFAT filesystem. The result of this is that people think their stuff is gone because Android reports it as uninitialised or corrupted, when in reality Android simply can't read it. Current CyanogenMod kernels (and I think Samsung-based as well) have FUSE support, which is a requirement of the current open source implementations *hint* *hint*.
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that was really informative and useful thank you. I just didn't know that was the reason behind peoples complaining. Now I'm gonna have to ask you again...I know a very little or almost nothing about samsung's way of development, fuse support, microsoft charges etc etc cuz I've been a sony user for a very long time and this is my first change. so If I format my sd card to exFAT and install AOSP based rom then my file system is tend to be corrupted? is there any way to make my android read the data after I install AOSP based rom?
Ishan Sardar said:
that was really informative and useful thank you. I just didn't know that was the reason behind peoples complaining. Now I'm gonna have to ask you again...I know a very little or almost nothing about samsung's way of development, fuse support, microsoft charges etc etc cuz I've been a sony user for a very long time and this is my first change. so If I format my sd card to exFAT and install AOSP based rom then my file system is tend to be corrupted? is there any way to make my android read the data after I install AOSP based rom?
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Yes, definitely, but I personally do not know how, you will have to look around, it might be difficult. I would suggest looking at how PhilZ custom recovery works, it has exFAT support.
If you simply install an AOSP-based (like CyanogenMod) without modifications you will not be able to read an exFAT formatted card at all.
Rekoil said:
Yes, definitely, but I personally do not know how, you will have to look around, it might be difficult. I would suggest looking at how PhilZ custom recovery works, it has exFAT support.
If you simply install an AOSP-based (like CyanogenMod) without modifications you will not be able to read an exFAT formatted card at all.
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ah way too much hassle to find out how exFAT works on different roms besides I'll be changing roms quite a lot as I love to play around with my phone...I think I'll just go for FAT32 for now besides what could possibly be larger than 4GB if I'm only gonna put all the regular stuff like music, movie, games etc? anyway could you please tell me how to format it to FAT32? cuz mine is formatted to exFAT by default and I don't see any option in my pc to format it to FAT32, it's just NTFS and exFAT.
Ishan Sardar said:
ah way too much hassle to find out how exFAT works on different roms besides I'll be changing roms quite a lot as I love to play around with my phone...I think I'll just go for FAT32 for now besides what could possibly be larger than 4GB if I'm only gonna put all the regular stuff like music, movie, games etc? anyway could you please tell me how to format it to FAT32? cuz mine is formatted to exFAT by default and I don't see any option in my pc to format it to FAT32, it's just NTFS and exFAT.
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I am assuming you are using Windows as Linux and OS X do not hide the option to use FAT32. Open a command prompt (cmd) and type "format /FS:FAT32 X:", where X is the drive letter of your SD card.
Rekoil said:
I am assuming you are using Windows as Linux and OS X do not hide the option to use FAT32. Open a command prompt (cmd) and type "format /FS:FAT32 X:", where X is the drive letter of your SD card.
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damn man it took a good 3 hours....its so damn slow and after all that time now its saying the volume is too big for FAT32
any other way to format it to FAT32 safely?
Ishan Sardar said:
damn man it took a good 3 hours....its so damn slow and after all that time now its saying the volume is too big for FAT32
any other way to format it to FAT32 safely?
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Your problem is your allocation size that is the problem with FAT32 when larger than 32GB, that is a big problem with MS standart software; it can't do it.
http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm is what you need and remember with large allocation sizes you don't want to but small files on the drive.
CalInTheZone said:
Your problem is your allocation size that is the problem with FAT32 when larger than 32GB, that is a big problem with MS standart software; it can't do it.
http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm is what you need and remember with large allocation sizes you don't want to but small files on the drive.
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I tried the GUI app once before and it formatted my sd card to FAT32 instantly then I put it in my s3 and it recognized the card too then I formatted the card using my s3 again just to make sure it stays at FAT32 and lol it's gone back to exFAT again. Is this normal?
One more question when I start the gui it gives me several allocation unit size 512 to 65536 what should I select? Also after I format my sd to FAT32 will it behave normally? (I mean this was ridiculously fast while I mentioned the windows one took 3 hours lol) can I fill it up till the last bit? If the phone recognize the SD it means I won't have any problem with installing and rom or anything right?
Ishan Sardar said:
damn man it took a good 3 hours....its so damn slow and after all that time now its saying the volume is too big for FAT32
any other way to format it to FAT32 safely?
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Look at "format /?" in a command prompt. It will tell you all the flags you can use, there should be one for quick format. And there are numerous programs which do this, just Google it.
Try EASEUS Partition Master 9.1.1 Home Edition
There's a newer version but I used 9.1.1, you can get it from filehippo.com.
If you delete the partition in a partition manager software, do not try to format with Microsoft Windows Disk Management.
This can damage the drive!
Default cluster size is 32kB for 32GB to 2TB
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/140365
IrfanCore said:
Try EASEUS Partition Master 9.1.1 Home Edition
There's a newer version but I used 9.1.1, you can get it from filehippo.com.
If you delete the partition in a partition manager software, do not try to format with Microsoft Windows Disk Management.
This can damage the drive!
Default cluster size is 32kB for 32GB to 2TB
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/140365
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Yeah... do not use EASEUS Partition Master. There are, as I said, numerous much much simpler softwares that can do this, not to mention the fact that "format" can do everything you want, given the correct arguments.
Rekoil said:
Yeah... do not use EASEUS Partition Master. There are, as I said, numerous much much simpler softwares that can do this, not to mention the fact that "format" can do everything you want, given the correct arguments.
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i suggest try using HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool to format it. remember to use usb card reader if not format tool cannot detect your SD card.

[Q] Lg Thrill 4G NTFS Support, Fuse.ko Help?

After literally days upon days of searching and multiple failed attempts with apps from the Google Play store, I have literally given up hope and burned out here to ask you, my fellow xda members, for some much needed help.
I am trying to mount my 32 GB sdcard to my LG Thrill 4G. I bought the card to replace my previous 16 BG card since I ran out of space. I know from experience with older Android devices that the main filesystem supported is FAT32. Sadly, FAT32 only supports smaller file sizes before it loses it's ability to adequately maintain its stability. I had over 16 GB of data backed up on my windows 8 PC that I transferred to my new 32 GB card (formatted to FAT32 at the time), and I then found out the results the hard way. Luckily I kept the data on my PC, because once I placed the sdcard into my phone it read only 4 GB used. It was as if over 12 GB of data transferred had never existed -_-
I then formatted the sdcard to NTFS. Since it's a much more stable filesystem it has no issues retaining all of my data, but the main problem is still the same: Android won't read NTFS by default.
I read online how some phones with the FUSE module (fuse.ko) built in could effectively read and/or write to NTFS drives with the use of some market apps such as Paragon NTFS or similar, with a rooted device of course. I checked the thread HERE for info on how to get NTFS to read and write successfully on Android, but the main kicker is still whether or not the phone possesses the FUSE module. And, of course, the LG Thrill 4G/Optimus 3D has no built in FUSE driver, which brings me to my main question in all of this:
How do you compile a fuse.ko driver from kernel source to work on an Android phone? More specifically, the LG Thrill 4G.
I've looked in Google Code, github, everywhere....nothing anywhere gives any clue as to how to create the module. There aren't even any kernels available with FUSE/NTFS support.
I'm stumped I've given up trying and failing time and time again. I need the full 32 GB of my sdcard for my data, and it even says in most specs for new smartphones anymore that up to a 32 GB card is supported.....so why hasn't Google made full NTFS or exFAT support for Android yet?
Anyone who can help is GREATLY appreciated. I believe I speak for other individuals including myself when I say a good tutorial on how to this would be worth it's weight in gold at this point. I spent over $30 on this card, and so far I've still not managed to get it to mount and read/write on my phone
Thanks in advance,
-MrDaggs
.....Nothing?
C'mon guys, I know it's probably not the easiest question out here right now, but surely SOMEONE can help me? Or perhaps direct me toward where I would need to go to learn how to do this myself? I've seen other users here on xda asking questions related to compiling the fuse.ko driver and they got an immediate answer, of course they weren'y exactly asking about how to go from step 1, but the point is the same...
ANY help on this will be greatly appreciated. Everyone here on XDA has helped me out a lot in the past, if anyone has anything to say let me know.
Thank you..
Not sure why it jacked up for you
MrDaggs said:
C'mon guys, I know it's probably not the easiest question out here right now, but surely SOMEONE can help me? Or perhaps direct me toward where I would need to go to learn how to do this myself? I've seen other users here on xda asking questions related to compiling the fuse.ko driver and they got an immediate answer, of course they weren'y exactly asking about how to go from step 1, but the point is the same...
ANY help on this will be greatly appreciated. Everyone here on XDA has helped me out a lot in the past, if anyone has anything to say let me know.
Thank you..
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I have a 32GB card and am using over half of it right now. I'd say you either have a bad card or bad data back-up.
cougargt said:
I have a 32GB card and am using over half of it right now. I'd say you either have a bad card or bad data back-up.
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I bought A Samsung Class 10 micro SD Card online for about $25....I plugged it into my computer first to transfer the data from my old card I had backed up onto the new card. It would reach about 20-30% finished and then tell me the drive was "corrupted and unreadable". That problem was when I at first left the filesystem unchanged (FAT32). I formatted the sd card to NTFS and tried the process again and it worked flawlessly, only now it won't read in my phone because of the NTFS filesystem :/
I gave my father a 32GB card for his Galaxy SIII a few months ago and his works fine. I don't know what might be wrong with the one I have, though....IF there is something wrong with it.
I'm beyond confused right now..
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not sure why you need to use ntfs but i think the fone should be able to mount ext2 drives ?
schneidz said:
not sure why you need to use ntfs but i think the fone should be able to mount ext2 drives ?
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External Hard drive
This post was from years ago, but I noticed I never posted my results. The seller I bought the card from on eBay was a fraud and was removed from the site, I received a refund. The card was corrupted out of the box, and as a result would not mount regardless of the filesystem I tried to implement. Though Android is mainly compatible with FAT32, so my efforts were in vain anyway. Thank you all for your help, this thread is now officially closed.

Help, several NOOB questions

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP! I'm dead new with android and just got a Nook HD+ 32gb (groupon deal $130)
anyway, I've done a ton of reading on here and watched a bunch of youtube vids- i don't know if people use overlapping terminology that means the same things or what.. and also seems like theres a lot of opinions in the forums.
I want basically the full android experience and root access- like i said, never used any android, but i like toying around with these things. BUT i also really want a fully stable platform- don't want constant crashing or it reseting on me.
questions i have-
1)the CWM is the "program" (don't know the correct terminology) that basically gives me the access to back up and install new roms, root, etc? TWRP does the same thing- but i understand you don't use that?
2)If i have a BRAND NEW nook HD+ do i need to back it up before messing with it OR are the "stock rom" zips you provided just that?
2) with the SD card image, do i need to put a specific image on the specified sd card. i.e. 4gb SD gets a 4gb image? or is the image universal to whatever size SD card i get?
2a) What problems am i going to run into using my mac to make the SD card, if any? what program do i need to use?
4) when you back up through CWM where does it save it? to the SD card?
4a) this is where i was confused about the image, reading into some of the posts it led me to think the image file took up the entirety of the
SD card.
4b)So in the future i could just boot from the SD card and would have the option to flash the stock rom back on the HD+ if desired? and/or
go back to CM?
5) what is DUALBOOTING? and NANDROID? how do they tie into CWM and CM10. very confused about this.
6) any disadvantage to flashing the EMMC vs booting from SD card every time? I THINK i want to flash the emmc, i don't want to be tied to booting from the SD card everytime- if I'm understanding that correctly.
7)what is this "trim" lag problem? couldn't really figure out what people were talking about.
thanks a ton for any help you can give me- I'm sure you receive a lot of questions!
-Sonny
santinod15 said:
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP! I'm dead new with android and just got a Nook HD+ 32gb (groupon deal $130)
anyway, I've done a ton of reading on here and watched a bunch of youtube vids- i don't know if people use overlapping terminology that means the same things or what.. and also seems like theres a lot of opinions in the forums.
I want basically the full android experience and root access- like i said, never used any android, but i like toying around with these things. BUT i also really want a fully stable platform- don't want constant crashing or it reseting on me.
questions i have-
1)the CWM is the "program" (don't know the correct terminology) that basically gives me the access to back up and install new roms, root, etc? TWRP does the same thing- but i understand you don't use that?
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CWM (ClockworkMod) is a recovery program that allows you to do just what you said. TWRP is also a recovery, but uses the touch screen instead of hardware keys to control it.
2)If i have a BRAND NEW nook HD+ do i need to back it up before messing with it OR are the "stock rom" zips you provided just that?
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You can either use the CWM backup tool to return your device to stock (including any data you have already created, like registration) or the plain stock zips I have will also return you to stock, but the way it was when you got it new before registering.
3) with the SD card image, do i need to put a specific image on the specified sd card. i.e. 4gb SD gets a 4gb image? or is the image universal to whatever size SD card i get?
3a) What problems am i going to run into using my mac to make the SD card, if any? what program do i need to use?
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Since you have a Mac, the best way to do it is the new procedure without burning an image. Since I don't have a Mac, I don't know the exact programs to use. I think SDFormatter comes in a Mac version. And I know there are lots of mac partitioning programs to set the first partition active. And using the procedure does use all of the SD, so it is best to use a relatively small one, 2-4GB.
4) when you back up through CWM where does it save it? to the SD card?
4a) this is where i was confused about the image, reading into some of the posts it led me to think the image file took up the entirety of the
SD card.
4b)So in the future i could just boot from the SD card and would have the option to flash the stock rom back on the HD+ if desired? and/or
go back to CM?
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It saves it either to the SD card or internal memory, you choose.
Yes it uses all of the SD if you use the new procedure. But you need that if you choose to backup to SD. A backup takes about 1.5GB.
And yes, save the SD for future use, like restoring backups or installing new ROMs.
5) what is DUALBOOTING? and NANDROID? how do they tie into CWM and CM10. very confused about this.
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Dual booting means having one operating system on internal memory (also called emmc for Embedded MultiMedia Card) and one installed to a bootable SD. Most people that dual boot have stock on internal and CM on SD. They are separate and independent from each other.
Nandroid just means internal memory. So a nandroid backup means backing up whatever you have on internal memory.
6) any disadvantage to flashing the EMMC vs booting from SD card every time? I THINK i want to flash the emmc, i don't want to be tied to booting from the SD card everytime- if I'm understanding that correctly.
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The only advantage to booting to CM on SD is it leaves internal memory untouched for warranty reasons. The disadvantage is it runs slower and is less stable.
7)what is this "trim" lag problem? couldn't really figure out what people were talking about.
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LAG is a complex issue to explain. If you are used to hard drives getting fragmented and slowing down your system, LAG is similar but a different mechanism with solid state flash drives. TRIM is a process to undo what causes LAG. But some of the solid state chips in these devices have a bug and when TRIM is run, it bricks the chip, making it unusable.
thanks a ton for any help you can give me- I'm sure you receive a lot of questions!
-Sonny
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leapinlar said:
CWM (ClockworkMod) is a recovery program that allows you to do just what you said. TWRP is also a recovery, but uses the touch screen instead of hardware keys to control it.
You can either use the CWM backup tool to return your device to stock (including any data you have already created, like registration) or the plain stock zips I have will also return you to stock, but the way it was when you got it new before registering.
Since you have a Mac, the best way to do it is the new procedure without burning an image. Since I don't have a Mac, I don't know the exact programs to use. I think SDFormatter comes in a Mac version. And I know there are lots of mac partitioning programs to set the first partition active. And using the procedure does use all of the SD, so it is best to use a relatively small one, 2-4GB.
It saves it either to the SD card or internal memory, you choose.
Yes it uses all of the SD if you use the new procedure. But you need that if you choose to backup to SD. A backup takes about 1.5GB.
And yes, save the SD for future use, like restoring backups or installing new ROMs.
Dual booting means having one operating system on internal memory (also called emmc for Embedded MultiMedia Card) and one installed to a bootable SD. Most people that dual boot have stock on internal and CM on SD. They are separate and independent from each other.
Nandroid just means internal memory. So a nandroid backup means backing up whatever you have on internal memory.
The only advantage to booting to CM on SD is it leaves internal memory untouched for warranty reasons. The disadvantage is it runs slower and is less stable.
LAG is a complex issue to explain. If you are used to hard drives getting fragmented and slowing down your system, LAG is similar but a different mechanism with solid state flash drives. TRIM is a process to undo what causes LAG. But some of the solid state chips in these devices have a bug and when TRIM is run, it bricks the chip, making it unusable.
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THANK YOU.. so much answered for me

SD card encryption (honor 4X CHE2-L11, stock EMUI 4.0.3, Android 6.0)

Hello everyone ,
I recently encrypted my phone, using the utility in setting>advanced>security>crypt your phone but realized that the sd card wasn't encrypted and that there was no available option in the default menu.
Adoptable storage would be a solution, but, even though there are some hacks that can enable adoptable storage on the honor 4X (like using Root Essentials), those options aren't 100% working (bugs when displaying available space, ...). So that doesn't look like the best solution. (I saw this post, but I don't see how I could use encryption with this method and am not really comfortable with the idea of flashing a pre-packaged modified kernel, in which I can't see what else might have been changed)
I also experimented with ROMs available for the device (ex : RROS) wich have adoptable storage enabled, but I am not 100% satisfied with those ROMs so I don't want to use them on my every day device (problems with the GPS when no GAPPS, which I'd like to avoid, battery drain, ...).
I know there are apps like EDS lite with which you can create an encrypted container, but I'd like to keep it more convenient and so I'm looking to encrypt the whole sd card and decrypt it at boot time. So basically, the best case scenario would be to have an encrypted SD card, but still be able to do everything I'm used to doing with it (move apps, listen to music, scroll my photo gallery, ...)
I am not strictly speaking looking for adoptable storage, just for a solution to have an encrypted sd card working (actually, a scenario more like where I could make a LUKS EXT4 partiton on my whole card would be awesome, so that you can have your data back when the phone dies). Also, my phone is rooted and, even though I don't really know about the "hidden things" in Android, I'm comfortable enough on Linux, so I don't mind having to use a terminal to achieve my purpose.
If anyone has an idea, that would be awesome, many thanks in advance

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