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Hi,
I'm deciding beetwen nexus 5 and xiaomi mi 3. Xiaomi has much better camera and battery and 64 gig storage option.
But I can't stand using MIUI.
How stable are CM and Slimkat on mi3 ? Same as official ROM ? No battery drain or lags ? I can't find how they were even possible to make without kernel sources and what Cancro is.
Leaked AOSP is better than custom ROMs ? Performance and stability wise od course.
Thanks !
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FunkyRasta said:
Hi,
I'm deciding beetwen nexus 5 and xiaomi mi 3. Xiaomi has much better camera and battery and 64 gig storage option.
But I can't stand using MIUI.
How stable are CM and Slimkat on mi3 ? Same as official ROM ? No battery drain or lags ? I can't find how they were even possible to make without kernel sources and what Cancro is.
Leaked AOSP is better than custom ROMs ? Performance and stability wise od course.
Thanks !
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hey, CM and other custom roms are still in beta stages. There are quite a few bugs major one being random reboots. But there is a leaked AOSP which i am using currently and is pretty solid & stable. I am coming from Nexus 4 & feel the development is pretty slow due to non availability of kernel sources & not many devs use this devices due to known reasons. Still the devs are doing a fantastic jobs with what's available. I personally recommend u to get an Nexus 5 if you have the budget because it is most dev friendly devices offering endless customizations & very very very long support. :good:
Thanks, there is no price difference for me, in fact 64 GB Xiaomi is 20 percent more expensive.
Random reboots here we meet again... Thats why I rejected buying LG G2.
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Go with the Nexus 5. We do not know when (if) MI3 sources are gonna be released to the public and MIUI sucks big time. I am seriously thinking of selling the MI3 because I can't stand MIUI anymore. Lots and lots of bugs and no one does anything to solve them. When I bought the phone, my competitors were N5, MI3 and G2. I regret choosing the MI3.
I would say the exact same thing than reneftw.
I've bought the Xiaomi MI3 on a friend suggest after my old samsung GS2 tried to swim in a glass of water.
I've bought without loking to the rom ... miui is quite surprising to the first effect ... no google play (but the Mi Market) and a bunch of chinese application not translated
I miss my stable Cyanogen
I've tried the beta from Cancro but lot of app shutdown unexpectedly. Then the miui photo app is really nice considering the cyanogen one ...
So take the nexus 5 (I should have done this too :| ).
Go for the Nexus 5 if you want custom ROMs and overall awesome community support...
Go for the Mi3 if you are a gamer and do intensive stuff... The Mi3W (India) I have BLOWS away phones thrice it's price in terms of performance...but sadly, custom ROMs are scarce and buggy, AOSP leak is, well, stable, but too bland for me...As for MIUI, I started out apprehensive, but I've actually come to quite like it...if you like lotta customizability and a "hint" of iOS here and there...
Guys, I want to congratulate all, Meizu has posted the source code of Linux kernel for Meizu Pro 5. This means that the Note 4 (with Exynos Kernel) has a chance to become even much better. I ask all developers who are still developing kernel, please port something!
Meixu Pro 5 (M576) - GitHub
Wow that'd be really cool. @djmax81 any chance that you'd be able to cook that in your kernel??? I've seen in live action the Meizu pro 5 and it is an incredibly fast phone....
It's not even on the same SoC, so what are we expecting it to tell us? The 5433 files are pretty much the same as the stock Samsung ones - they even same the same typos in them.
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Guys, I want to congratulate all, Meizu has posted the source code of Linux kernel for Meizu Pro 5. This means that the Note 4 (with Exynos Kernel) has a chance to become even much better. I ask all developers who are still developing kernel, please port something!
Meixu Pro 5 (M576) - GitHub
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Thanks for let us this know about.
Cool thing huh @RaymanFX hopefully it gonna be useful for you. :good: :good: :good:
Isn't the driver sources the one that is missing, not the kernel sources since samsung already provides it?
I heard what the developer of ultimate kernel said, that meizu made totally new termodriver, "meizu-thermal". Where Note 5 have throttling (1.1Ghz - 1.3Ghz) - Meiuzu stably keep 2.1Ghz and very rarely fall to 1.7Ghz. At same time this phone is warm but not hot. Meizu GPU work with disabled DVFS and it's frequency hold on max 772Mhz. Also Meizu has double tap to wake, and wake gestures that don't drain battery. With a similar hardware Meizu has 8-8.5 hours... So Meizu has much better software then Samsung.
p.s. uk developer bought meizu pro 5....
I am planning to buy a Zuk Z1 which comes pre-loaded with COS 5.1.1 and still hasn't received COS 13 update; however CM13 is available and pretty stable. Now I'll buy the phone only if it receives CM14 sometime down the road. The phone has a Snapdragon 801. Is there a possibility that it'll receive CM14? I know it's hard to tell for sure but any seasoned people could make some gusses? Any help appreciated.
Personally I wouldn't buy this phone anymore, it's a decent device but you can get better phones for the same amount of money
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Personally I wouldn't buy this phone anymore, it's a decent device but you can get better phones for the same amount of money
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can u suggest better device at this price range
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I am planning to buy a Zuk Z1 which comes pre-loaded with COS 5.1.1 and still hasn't received COS 13 update; however CM13 is available and pretty stable. Now I'll buy the phone only if it receives CM14 sometime down the road. The phone has a Snapdragon 801. Is there a possibility that it'll receive CM14? I know it's hard to tell for sure but any seasoned people could make some gusses? Any help appreciated.
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If the OnePlus One will get Cm14 then will this phone also get Cm14. Mabye by cyanogenmod official or unofficial.
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If the OnePlus One will get Cm14 then will this phone also get Cm14. Mabye by cyanogenmod official or unofficial.
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The OPO should get CM14. It's backed by a very, very strong developer community. Also, why hasn't ZUK seen the likes of MIUI ported? It's already there for OPO.
I'm a crack flasher, so I love trying out all sorts of ROMs, but I'm inept at 'porting' ROMs.
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Personally I wouldn't buy this phone anymore, it's a decent device but you can get better phones for the same amount of money
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Even I'd love to know about a better phone at this price point.
So zuk z1 will support android 7.0 right??
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A better phone at this price point may be the the Redmi Note 3 Pro. From what I can see the Redmi has better hardware, faster 64 bit CPU, better screen, cheaper. The ZUK has a better camera, no SD card (bad if you want to flash from SD card or backup to SD card) older CPU but still ok. Front fingerprint scanner is also a plus instead of rear on Redmi. Redmi runs MIUI and CM
If you have had your ZUK Z1 a while are you glad you got this and not the a Redmi note 3?
Right now we can't say anything about COS14 but if the devs at cynogen mod are concerned about this device they might release CM14 for us
but the question is In India during the launch of zuk z1 lenovo claimed that they will provide updates for this device and we did not get a single update up until now
so thankful to the devs at XDA for developing roms and continue the android cycle of this phone
and i hope they do so for Android 7.0
Calm down guys! ?? it will definiely get CM14, unofficial or official.
galaxyms said:
A better phone at this price point may be the the Redmi Note 3 Pro. From what I can see the Redmi has better hardware, faster 64 bit CPU, better screen, cheaper. The ZUK has a better camera, no SD card (bad if you want to flash from SD card or backup to SD card) older CPU but still ok. Front fingerprint scanner is also a plus instead of rear on Redmi. Redmi runs MIUI and CM
If you have had your ZUK Z1 a while are you glad you got this and not the a Redmi note 3?
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Dude i own redmi 3 pro and trust me it s not better. It s enough to say that xiaomi locked the bootloaders of their ****ty phones and unlocking bootloader is painful and takes weeks. also roms for redmi 3 are at the level lollipop.
cheeze.keyk said:
Calm down guys! ���� it will definiely get CM14, unofficial or official.
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That's very heartening to hear.
Extentho said:
Dude i own redmi 3 pro and trust me it s not better. It s enough to say that xiaomi locked the bootloaders of their ****ty phones and unlocking bootloader is painful and takes weeks. also roms for redmi 3 are at the level lollipop.
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Redmi Note 3 as of today has pretty stable MM ROMs and also official CM13 support.
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That's very heartening to hear.
Redmi Note 3 as of today has pretty stable MM ROMs and also official CM13 support.
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So does zuk which comes with a great panel of 5.5 inch, 64 gb ROM. I haven t found a better phone for 200$. Sure Xiaomi redmi 3 is a good competitor but not the best
Extentho said:
So does zuk which comes with a great panel of 5.5 inch, 64 gb ROM. I haven t found a better phone for 200$. Sure Xiaomi redmi 3 is a good competitor but not the best
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I agree. I have two major concerns:
1. Availability of CM14 on the device. If not official, then unofficial. The unofficial part is a little dodgy because there aren't A LOT of ROMs for the Z1 which are updated on a daily basis. The updates for a device also depend on how popular a device is among the developer community. I can't really say about the Z1.
2. The aging SD 801. How does it compare to the 64 bit 650?
Other than that, spec-wise, the 64GB memory and OIS wins it over the RN3 for me.
prateektaneja said:
I agree. I have two major concerns:
1. Availability of CM14 on the device. If not official, then unofficial. The unofficial part is a little dodgy because there aren't A LOT of ROMs for the Z1 which are updated on a daily basis. The updates for a device also depend on how popular a device is among the developer community. I can't really say about the Z1.
2. The aging SD 801. How does it compare to the 64 bit 650?
Other than that, spec-wise, the 64GB memory and OIS wins it over the RN3 for me.
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I think from this point is all about preferences. I prefer a large display with a good dpi and colors and 64 Gigs of rom on a marshmallow nuclear rom. Redmi 3 pro is worh it also but i m having it now on spacex rom lolipop waiting to unlock the bootolader
and maybe get a CM rom.
Extentho said:
So does zuk which comes with a great panel of 5.5 inch, 64 gb ROM. I haven t found a better phone for 200$. Sure Xiaomi redmi 3 is a good competitor but not the best
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SO which phones are the best competitor to a ZUK Z1?
Yes bro it will receive cm14 officially from cyanogenmod not from android
I wouldn't recommend the ZUK Z1 to anyone. Btw, typing this from my Z1.
The phone and the hardware is great. It's the crappy Cyanogen that makes the phone trash worthy.
Cyanogen is upto its neck with bugs. I too was excited when I first bought the Z1 but now repent that decision after using for 3 months.
Again, the phone is great. The OS is crap.
Experimental buil 7.0 launched on one plus one ...so wait
"Rumors" answer to the question, hope it's not true:
http://bit.ly/2bXzZ0R
Hello folks. I've been using Moto X Style for about a 1,5 year and I'm tired. Development is slowing down, the phone is really big (my previous one was LG L90). For some time I was looking for a nice, compact smartphone with good battery and decent price. Redmi 4X seems to fit my needs, but is it worth buying now? As far as I know the longer battery is kept unused, the worst condition it has - is 4X still being produced? How about development - how many LOS version may this phone get yet? How is battery life?
Or are there newer models which could fill my needs? 150mm height is too much for me; I like compact smartphones - otherwise I would get Lenovo P2 - that is a beast. Actually I tought that Sony Xperia XA2 would be nice, but that price...
What do you guys think?
Buy redmi 5
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Buy redmi 5
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As I mentioned, 150mm height is too much. I wish I had more compact smartphone.
Redmi 4x's android version range is 6-8 and thanks to treble we booted android p dev previews. About battery life my SoT records are: RR Luis build nougat 8hr 35min RR Luis build oreo 8h 12min android p dev preview 7h 3min
Project Treble seems promising. I wonder how long Android will keep compatibility with it. How about your opinions, then? Do you like this smartphone? Are you happy with it? Would you buy it again?
DoctorRzepa said:
Project Treble seems promising. I wonder how long Android will keep compatibility with it. How about your opinions, then? Do you like this smartphone? Are you happy with it? Would you buy it again?
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My previous phone was zenfone 6 (6 inch display x86 cpu) I was in your situation. It isnt even fit on pocket, lack of development, etc. Redmi 4x seems fine after 6 inch junk. 5 inch display, more custom rom support, Camera is amazing with gcam (miui default cam is fine too), 8 core cpu. Gaming performance is great and also it is cheap. Im definitely happy with redmi 4x
DoctorRzepa said:
Hello folks. I've been using Moto X Style for about a 1,5 year and I'm tired. Development is slowing down, the phone is really big (my previous one was LG L90). For some time I was looking for a nice, compact smartphone with good battery and decent price. Redmi 4X seems to fit my needs, but is it worth buying now? As far as I know the longer battery is kept unused, the worst condition it has - is 4X still being produced? How about development - how many LOS version may this phone get yet? How is battery life?
Or are there newer models which could fill my needs? 150mm height is too much for me; I like compact smartphones - otherwise I would get Lenovo P2 - that is a beast. Actually I tought that Sony Xperia XA2 would be nice, but that price...
What do you guys think?
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If u want to compact phone, santoni is best choice
Redmi 4X has several ROM's even project treble supported ROM's too.
Custom kernels available too.Development is quite good.
I think xiaomi less likely to make 5inch device in future too because as they are releasing newer devices in the range of 5.5 to 5.9 inches. For e.g. Redmi 6 has 5.5 inch display Maybe they produce 5 inch display phone with tight budget in future e.g. Redmi 4A.
I would say at least go for SD 625 device if there is any 5 inch device.
You've mentioned you might go for Lenovo P2 which has 5.5 inch display considering this Redmi 5 would be fine since it has 5.7 inch display and SD 450 and it's better than SD 435 and has same GPU as SD 625.
If there's any xiaomi store out there near by you live then try out newer xiaomi device yourself to get better decision on which device to get.
SD 435 is based on 28nm technology and now almost all new SD chipsets are based on 14nm or lower so it's better to get this devices.
With using only mobile data on Redmi 4X I do need to charge device in evening or night.
With mix usage it lasts 1½ days which translates roughly around 8 hours of sot. On MIUI 8 I used to get around 10hours of sot.
If you buy Redmi 4X now there's very chance that your phone will have white color notification LED.
Do let us know which one you buy
In the end I bought Redmi 4X since it was quite cheap. It fits nice in my hand. I'm not using it as daily yet, but "play" with it now.
Can you suggest me some nice custom roms (with as little bugs as possible)? Or maybe miui is the way to go (global or xiaomi.eu?). I just wish I could deactivate fingerprint scanner (I don't use it, but touching it with finger accidentaly wakes phone) and remove/disable some google apps. I heard root on miui is available on xiaomi.eu version.
First(I am sure you know it) get device's bootloader unlocked, it a quiet hectic process and will take few days.
The custom ROM's I'll recommend you are list below.
I have personally tried all of them and they are pretty good almost bugless, with good battery backup.
I haven't tried any custom kernel so can't say anything about them. If you wish you can try.
All of them are Oreo based.
1. Resurrection Remix OS.
2. DOT OS.
3. Nitrogen OS.
4. Havoc OS.
I recommend the new Xaiomi Mi A2 lite. It´s very handy too.
Watch this video from minute 6 on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4I8eSKFF3w
metelhammer said:
First(I am sure you know it) get device's bootloader unlocked, it a quiet hectic process and will take few days.
The custom ROM's I'll recommend you are list below.
I have personally tried all of them and they are pretty good almost bugless, with good battery backup.
I haven't tried any custom kernel so can't say anything about them. If you wish you can try.
All of them are Oreo based.
1. Resurrection Remix OS.
2. DOT OS.
3. Nitrogen OS.
4. Havoc OS.
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Any drawabacks on RR? I heard battery does not last as long on custom as on miui. How about camera and flashlight gestures? Can I set double click on power/volume button to trigger them? Or long click?
sorry doublepost
Of course no. Sd 435 is too old for q3 2k18. I think the minimum soc right now is sd636 (redmi note 5, and other phone with that soc). Iam currently using redmi 4x, but I'll trade this phone to a newer xiaomi (I dont have a lot of money, so i'll choose xiaomi)
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Any drawabacks on RR? I heard battery does not last as long on custom as on miui. How about camera and flashlight gestures? Can I set double click on power/volume button to trigger them? Or long click?
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I didn't faced any bugs since my usage was using social media apps,some photo editing apps, calls, camera (gcam) and playing PUBG mobile and clash royale.
I noticed the battery drain faster while playing pubgm in rr than miui so yes it does eat more battery when comparing it to miui. Using custom kernel you may get good battery life.
When using it on 4G LTE the battery was draining fast too and experienced device to go warm.
Yes, you can set camera button as far as I remember.
The last time i used rr was in last two weeks of April and early few days of May.
Last build was released in April and later there's no update made available yet.
I think we'll be looking at directly Android P based rr in next update.
To get latest security patch and Android P experience I moved to DOT OS and it's a good build and it also has all the customization that are available in rr and so does the havoc OS.
In my opinion all custom ROM's doesn't have battery backup like MIUI but it's not bad it's decent.
Flashlight gesture I don't know I didn't tried that but it should be available there.
Currently I am using MIUI 10 Global beta and battery backup is good I get SOT around 8 hours with mix usage but again when using 4G LTE it drops down to 4 or 5 hours of SOT.
Battery saver helps a little bit so it's turned on all the time.
DoctorRzepa said:
In the end I bought Redmi 4X since it was quite cheap. It fits nice in my hand. I'm not using it as daily yet, but "play" with it now.
Can you suggest me some nice custom roms (with as little bugs as possible)? Or maybe miui is the way to go (global or xiaomi.eu?). I just wish I could deactivate fingerprint scanner (I don't use it, but touching it with finger accidentaly wakes phone) and remove/disable some google apps. I heard root on miui is available on xiaomi.eu version.
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I am currently using AOSP EXTENDED. It is smooth and bugless. It's Oreo based.
Use havoc os with phantom kernel (thunder plug hotplug) (alucard governor) you'll be amazed. HAVOC OS > Dot OS in both battery life and performance and fluidity.
10+ SOT
naim.hassan said:
Use havoc os with phantom kernel (thunder plug hotplug) (alucard governor) you'll be amazed. HAVOC OS > Dot OS in both battery life and performance and fluidity.
10+ SOT
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10+ hours of SOT is just fantastic.
I(or rather we) used to had such SOT on MIUI 8.
I'll try this combinations soon in few days, currently on MIUI 10 Global beta 8.8.2.
Does firmware version matter?
Right now I'm using this phone, specifically K20 Pro Premium (512/12GB). Should I upgrade to recently announced 12T Pro? I prefer customizable phone (like good custom rom support) but with my little research even 11T Pro doesn't have proper custom rom yet beside xiaomi.eu. What are the reason for that and will 12T Pro have the same curse?
zephy93 said:
Right now I'm using this phone, specifically K20 Pro Premium (512/12GB). Should I upgrade to recently announced 12T Pro? I prefer customizable phone (like good custom rom support) but with my little research even 11T Pro doesn't have proper custom rom yet beside xiaomi.eu. What are the reason for that and will 12T Pro have the same curse?
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The price and popularity are surely the brakes on development as well as the A12/A13 restrictions.
There are AOSP roms for the 11t pro but it's stagnating, not sure if it's going to continue (I deleted my RiceDroid thread because the links were deleted).
A lot of developers switch to telegram and no longer publish on XDA.
Currently on a 12 pro no rom except Xiaomi had rom while source code for A12 has been released for 8 months.
I had an 11t pro but disappointed with the autonomy I took the 12 pro and I don't regret since for better performance I have the same autonomy(with less battery), it could be much better but Xiaomi prefers to sell rather than optimize processors.
I also had the Poco F2 pro where we had to launch a crowdfunding to get roms.
To conclude, by buying a 12 t pro you risk waiting a long time to have Aosp roms.
This device looks interesting but what good is a bigger battery on the new soc consumes more than the old one
I don't know if you made a decision yet, but in case you didn't yet (or for anyone else in the same boat) I want to give you my point of view. (Writing this on my T12 Pro)
Untill now there's not even a XDA device page for the T12 or T12 Pro or K50 Ultra (basically T12 with Snapdragon 8+ Gen1). So I don't expect the custom ROM support to be good.
Someone mentioned the long wait for unlocking the bootloader to be a reason but I doubt that's the main one. It seems like none of the recent Xiaomi phones have any really good custom ROMs available. I think MIUI not being the best base to build a custom ROM on could be a big reason for developers to stay away from it.
If you really prioritize good custom ROM support, why not go for a OnePlus or even a Google Pixel (or another brand with good custom ROM support)? I don't know how the ROM development is or will be for the newer phones, but the OnePlus 8T that I switched from had some good ROMs available. I switched mainly because I found a really good offer for it, €650 which I can deduct the tax from, and a free Redmi Pad along with it that I'll sell. If I manage to sell the Redmi Pad for €250 and the 8T for €300 I'll have made €13 on upgrading my phone.
Using the phone I'd say the only thing that's a big difference for me is the bigger screen, bit other phones can do that too (not many with a flat panel though, which I like about the T12 series). The Snapdragon 865 was already powerful enough for anything I threw at it including prolonged COD gaming sessions at highest settings, while staying cooler than the T12 Pro does. (Not that the T12 Pro overheats that much but it definitely does get warmer than the 8T).
The camera on the T12 Pro can produce better results, however for point-and-shoot I think the 8T will produce more consistent results because it's more optimized. Maybe Xiaomi will fix it with software updates but for now this is my experience with it, though I've only had the device for 3 days now so my experience with the newest MIUI is limited. I've already found one bug and multiple gripes with it though.
For me I'll probably use the device for half a year until I can renew my contract and find another deal for a phone that suits me better. For now I don't mind using MIUI; I immediately requested a bootloader unlock though to install the Xiaomi.eu ROM and root. I might also end up installing Pixelify on it if I get tired of MIUI (no experience with Pixelfy yet but seems an interesting alternative to custom ROMs), which would hopefully give me at least somewhat of a stock experience.
If you're happy with your current phone and the only thing you'd like on top is a good custom ROM, I'd say keep it for a while, and maybe try Pixelify to change things up a little.
If you really want another ROM but you're happy with the rest of the device, maybe try to get a similar phone used, preferably Snapdragon 865 or newer, with good ROMs already available. (I'd only buy used if you can pick it up locally and check the device)
If you want or can only buy a new phone, and prioritize custom ROM support, go for a brand that is known to have good custom ROM support.
If a Custom ROM isn't your main priority and you can get a deal like I did, go for it. In my case I can sell it for more than it costed me, maybe even a year down the line.