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Anyone know anything about this?
http://www.goandroid.co.in/samsung-galaxy-s5-update-brings-performance-tweaks/37180/
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Anyone know anything about this?
http://www.goandroid.co.in/samsung-galaxy-s5-update-brings-performance-tweaks/37180/
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I'm curious about this too. I've been checking the updater and theres no software update available.
The screenshots in that article are for the Canadian variant -- G900W8.
It'll probably take a while for any update to get "certified" by the big @, plus I think I'm going to avoid doing software and security policy updates in case an exploit for this current version is found.
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It'll probably take a while for any update to get "certified" by the big @, plus I think I'm going to avoid doing software and security policy updates in case an exploit for this current version is found.
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I have to wonder how many full-time employees AT&T and Samsung have that do nothing but monitor the web (mostly XDA) for whatever goes on here at XDA so they can react to any potential important discoveries, mods, or developments.
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I have to wonder how many full-time employees AT&T and Samsung have that do nothing but monitor the web (mostly XDA) for whatever goes on here at XDA so they can react to any potential important discoveries, mods, or developments.
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For the longest time I have thought this..............
I thought I was the only one...
I too also thought this....it had occurred to me that it would be particularly clever and prudent to have your finger on the pulse of your "power users", but then it occurred to me that because it's such a smart idea, they're guaranteed NOT to do it (keeping in line with they're history). So that's my logic....
As nefarious as that sounds, it's almost guaranteed that the engineering portions of Sammy/AT&T that are responsible for security monitor forums and social media such as this. Probably even have moles portraying themselves as ignorant users.
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As nefarious as that sounds, it's almost guaranteed that the engineering portions of Sammy/AT&T that are responsible for security monitor forums and social media such as this. Probably even have moles portraying themselves as ignorant users.
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I'm sure that engineers look at XDA and other developer/user forums out of interest or even as part of the job; but unless something directly affects Samsung or AT&T in a manner that is costing them a significant amount of money I doubt any action is made in response. Remember these are corporations, money/time is not spent chasing a relatively few users who choose modify their phones, even if it is to evade fees and/or modify a locked feature. It just doesn't make a large financial difference.
Apple certainly pursued a cease and desist strategy but I think that was mostly out of a control freak corporate culture. Other than tethering for free,what do rooting and custom ROMs actually cost AT&T or Samsung? We still buy their phones loyally and pay for the service. If it mattered enough they would take greater steps to lock stuff down, or routinely push updates to secure their devices when exploits are found.
Just my take on it - I'm a pretty paranoid dude but not in this regard. We just don't matter much to them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721505
I know the qualcomm guys look. Lol
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TOA Duck said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721505
I know the qualcomm guys look. Lol
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the sad thing is all those files and scripts wouldn't have provided us any solution to root or unlocking the boot loader, those were qualcomm scripts and files but only for signing the mbr/mbl nothing unfortunatley to do with unlocking it or rooting the device in any manor, the certs may have been helpfull in tricking odin in to believing a custom rom was official is the only thing that i could actually see coming out of that.
and I was a little leary of the member in the first place, he offered no tangible proof that the scripts did anything all he did was list a directory of files, and when he was asked to provide proof that he actually rooted or unlocked a bootloader he refused to respond.
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I'm sure that engineers look at XDA and other developer/user forums out of interest or even as part of the job; but unless something directly affects Samsung or AT&T in a manner that is costing them a significant amount of money I doubt any action is made in response. Remember these are corporations, money/time is not spent chasing a relatively few users who choose modify their phones, even if it is to evade fees and/or modify a locked feature. It just doesn't make a large financial difference.
Apple certainly pursued a cease and desist strategy but I think that was mostly out of a control freak corporate culture. Other than tethering for free,what do rooting and custom ROMs actually cost AT&T or Samsung? We still buy their phones loyally and pay for the service. If it mattered enough they would take greater steps to lock stuff down, or routinely push updates to secure their devices when exploits are found.
Just my take on it - I'm a pretty paranoid dude but not in this regard. We just don't matter much to them.
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One thought. Samsung and Apple are both making big enterprise plays. My company in it's BYOD program is pushing Samsung hard over other Android phones because they are more locked down with corporate policies mandating encryption and forbidding rooting/jailbreaking coming soon to my employer, I can see how a locked down phone is more attractive to them and could lead to more sales, not yet.
We're not their only market, and in the grand scheme of things, there may be more money for them going this path.
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One thought. Samsung and Apple are both making big enterprise plays. My company in it's BYOD program is pushing Samsung hard over other Android phones because they are more locked down with corporate policies mandating encryption and forbidding rooting/jailbreaking coming soon to my employer, I can see how a locked down phone is more attractive to them and could lead to more sales, not yet.
We're not their only market, and in the grand scheme of things, there may be more money for them going this path.
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What they should be doing is making business/gov contracted phone deals locked down, and leaving the consumer phones as is, that's what they should be doing. Honestly TW is pretty good now and wouldn't bother me if I couldn't flash a rom (obviously I want to), however not having root and not being able to actually delete (not just disable) bloatware is f'n annoying lol.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721505
I know the qualcomm guys look. Lol
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Huh thats interesting. I had argued it was worthless since QC hadn't sent a takedown. May have to take another look.
I have been back and forth with both T-Mobile and Sony tech support about unlocking my Sony Xperia Z Model C6606 4.3 T-Mobile variant Build 10.4.C.0.814. When I entered the service code '*#* blah blah blah' it says unlock = No. Not possible. No beans. Sorry Charlie. No luck, no joy.
The following is a paraphrase of the exchanges with these two corporate giants, modified for brevity and the hope that the crushingly depressing outcome might be presented as slightly humorous.
I asked them, 'How do you update the system software when new releases are available?' They replied that there are 'special codes' that unlock the bootloader for the update. And I thought to myself, Really? Isn't that special.
I remarked that if it was possible for them to remotely upgrade the system software (read: kernel), then it is possible for them to remotely unlock the bootloader. The song and dance routine that followed was remarkable. In essence, they declined. Not possible. No beans. Sorry Charlie. No luck, no joy.
I said, if you won't unlock the bootloader now that we have established that you can, would you downgrade the system software to something where I can unlock the bootloader? Again, they declined and left me with nothing more than visions of 'special codes' dancing in my head. Not possible. No beans. Sorry Charlie. No luck, no joy.
My only question is, "Why not? Why on some and not on others?"
This is what you call company's politic, and people who work for it need to fallow this politic, even if its bad for consumer.
This world that we created for our self and we need to deal with it, just like with government.
There are codes for maintaining device(not only codes that you type on phone), that cellular companies get from phone manufactures to make their branded systems, just like their get bunch of other tools that help them doing this.
But its not like SIM-lock code and it cant be thrown around like peace of paper, because:
1) its can be used in bad way(hacking, unlocking etc)
2)it could be used by people that would sell that code to others and make money from it(illegally).
3) It breach of contract that you ACCEPTED buying that phone from t-mobile or as a free handset.
When you bought that phone you accepted agreement that you get with phone AND your operator, that clearly say that you can't mess with your phone system in any way that its said in contract and system it self, and you can use your phone as you get it.
Any modifications break terms of use, and you actually lost any rights to even ask support for help.
My point is that asking support for that code is actually really stupid, because their work doesnt include unlocking devices for modifications that user want to make(illegally looking from contract perspective), As far as device is not damaged or doesnt have problems, you actually have no reason write to them.
Its like going to car dealer where you bought car, and ask to remove engine because you want to put there new one... They totally dont care because this is not part of deal you made with them and its just nothing more than breaking regulations.
It is forum about modifications of phones, but we actually all make silent agreement that we KNOW that we can lost warranty and dont have rights for official support when we modify our phones. I think you forgot about that
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Hi Akinaro,
Thank you for your reply. You are of course correct in what you have pointed out concerning contracts and agreements. It is something of which we all (well, most of us) are aware and accept as a matter of course. But as the title of this response indicates, these agreements are a two-way street.
You have made a number of false assumptions in your post. That's OK. Perhaps I wasn't clear and gave you the wrong impression. Let me start now by saying that dealing with customer and tech support on these issues was not 'stupid'. You are NOT correct in presuming or insinuating that I have forgotten anything about the nature of these agreements, that I have entered into any binding agreements in bad faith, that I have broken any binding agreements, that I were considering breaking any binding agreements or that I might encouraging others to break any binding agreements.
In this case, the phone in question is not subject to a warranty agreement, a purchase agreement or even a use agreement. It has been superseded in all aspects by another phone. It is fully and completely my property. However it does not maintain any monetary value, as the screen is broken and the cost of the repair exceeds the value of the device. It's only value is in re-purposing it or using it for R&D. In it's currently locked state, the potential for both is limited.
When dealing with both the OEM and the carrier's tech support departments, I enumerated all of the conditions detailed above. I informed them that my interests in unlocking the device were personal and developmental in nature. In this they're responses were sympathetic and even conciliatory. We ALL understood that there was no breach of contractual terms taking place. Their actions in dealing with me confirm this simple fact. Plus, it is in their collective best interests to support independent R&D, even on older devices, as I'm sure you are aware. The reasons are manifold and beyond the scope of this OP post.
I apologize if I was unclear: I never at any time asked that either of these entities reveal to me the confidential and proprietary codes that they use to flash locked phones. My point was simply that I knew that they existed; that they knew I knew; and that they could accomplish my request to flash my phone if they chose to do so. It is simply negotiating.
Both corporate entities have graciously met me half-way in my efforts to unlock the bootloader. T-Mobile reactivated the SIM for the express purpose of allowing the service call that disclosed the bootloader could NOT be unlocked by the normal software methods available to the user. They didn't have to do that and I am grateful. Sony has developed a comprehensive online method for determining and delivering unlock codes to their phones that can be unlocked in this manner. Again, I am grateful to them for going this far. But this is not the same thing as unlocking my phone. Both of them have the means and methods available to do so. It is their choice to do so or not to do so. That is why you should call and negotiate. The worst that can happen (if you haven't broken any contracts or voided your warranty) is that they will say no.
I am perfectly within my rights to be disappointed that I didn't accomplish my goal. Likewise, it is completely understandable for me to wonder why they haven't fully implemented a plan to unlock all 4.3 'Zs'. I can even complain about it if I want. But I would rather that people smarter than I offer up new tactics and strategies to try. I don't want to give up just yet.
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This is what you call company's politic, and people who work for it need to fallow this politic, even if its bad for consumer.
This world that we created for our self and we need to deal with it, just like with government.
There are codes for maintaining device(not only codes that you type on phone), that cellular companies get from phone manufactures to make their branded systems, just like their get bunch of other tools that help them doing this.
But its not like SIM-lock code and it cant be thrown around like peace of paper, because:
1) its can be used in bad way(hacking, unlocking etc)
2)it could be used by people that would sell that code to others and make money from it(illegally).
3) It breach of contract that you ACCEPTED buying that phone from t-mobile or as a free handset.
When you bought that phone you accepted agreement that you get with phone AND your operator, that clearly say that you can't mess with your phone system in any way that its said in contract and system it self, and you can use your phone as you get it.
Any modifications break terms of use, and you actually lost any rights to even ask support for help.
My point is that asking support for that code is actually really stupid, because their work doesnt include unlocking devices for modifications that user want to make(illegally looking from contract perspective), As far as device is not damaged or doesnt have problems, you actually have no reason write to them.
Its like going to car dealer where you bought car, and ask to remove engine because you want to put there new one... They totally dont care because this is not part of deal you made with them and its just nothing more than breaking regulations.
It is forum about modifications of phones, but we actually all make silent agreement that we KNOW that we can lost warranty and dont have rights for official support when we modify our phones. I think you forgot about that
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Sorry, but my point is still valid.
You still asking support, that is made for helping with damaged/inoperative devices in way as guarantee say it, for unsupported access to device that is not part of ANY agreement that you accepted buying this phone.
People you talked with can be nice or not, can understand that its personal and for developing purpose. Its all doesnt matter because its company politic.
Even if I support full access to device that you bought(after all ITS YOURS) in other way I know that more than half of people that would see that they have access to it, they would start messing with it and then whine that their phones doesnt work.
In fact, actually damn good part of post on XDA is such whining of people that messed their phone and now they cry that it doesnt work and ask for help, and saddest part is that they never learn lesson from it so its never ending story.
So again, asking support for unlocking your phone, as far as its not SIM-lock, its useless and just silly.
You can ask technician from support if he could do this "on the side, out of records", but you would need +10 charisma for that if you dont know him, or some cash, that for most of time work. I actually loots of time just paid technician to make it on the side, especially when you dont need to wait few days for phone, few minutes, few hours and they fix/unlock your phone without a problem.
Or just find someone who would help you unlock it in different way... but XZ is just old and not "trendy" so no one care anymore and its hard to find anyone here.
OK Akinaro. That's enough with the ad hominem attacks. You have accused me of everything from trying to steal company secrets to unethical breaches of contractual agreements. All I did was try to negotiate some assistance and report on my progress.
Point 1. I am still a long term customer of my carrier. They encourage me to seek their help. So I don't care if you like it or not. What you characterize as abuse or illegal behavior, THEY characterize as completely acceptable.
Point 2. I am a consumer of the OEM's products. They encourage me to seek their help. So I don't care if you like it or not. What you characterize as abuse or illegal behavior, THEY characterize as completely acceptable.
Point 3. This is a development forum. My OP is within bounds and my responses to you have been civil. So I don't care if you like it or not. What you characterize as abuse or illegal behavior, THEY characterize as completely acceptable.
So far, you have accused me of everything from unethical acts and intentions to stupidity and whining. You haven't said anything of any real value. You haven't contributed any constructive ideas how I might get them to help. Nor have you been able to substantiate your wild accusations with anything that resemble facts or logic. So no, you haven't made a single valid point.
You realize that Im just writing obvious things? Because idea of asking official support for unlocking bootloader is just weird.
You can be mad that from your perspective my point is not valid.... because core of your question contain no fricking point at all.
You asked support for unlocking: They said they dont do this.
In your phone manual there is mention: "Any change or modification not expressly approved by Sony may void the user's authority to operate the equipment.", and I think access to bootloader just to have fun with kernel is part of that "modification"
There is about 1000 topic about bootloader on XDA, and they all mention the same thing: if it say no, its no. Simple.
So what you expect them to do? What you expect from XDA when you made this topic? All we can say is obvious thing that everyone know: ts not possible, especially with help of official support, that is not made for that.
Before you even bought your phone you should think and check your device, I always ask to turn phone on before buy it, its a matter of typing *#*#service#*#* to check it, its about 9sec to find bootloader section.
You can be mad at me, Sony or Obama, or anyone who is trendy right now, No one care. All what I write, is obvious things that everyone known.
Noob Friendly.
Hello again Akinaro,
While I am absolutely sure that you have a great deal of technical knowledge about phones (far more than I), it is a poor excuse for rude behavior, engaging in character assassination, making baseless assumptions or libelous accusations. A quick read through your post reveals a bias that is based entirely on a false perception and not the facts. So please allow me to address these directly.
You said, "You asked support for unlocking: They said they dont do this."
FACT: Some T-Mobile Xperia Z phone have a bootloader that IS unlockable (something of which you are well aware). The "*#*#service#*#*" service proves the point. Furthermore, they will supply you with a link to the OEM developers website that will unlock your bootloader while giving you detailed instructions on how to go about it. So NO! I said nothing of the sort.
You said, "In your phone manual there is mention: 'Any change or modification not expressly approved by Sony may void the user's authority to operate the equipment.'"
FACT: That's not what 'express approval' is, means or implies. Sony's assistance to developers in unlocking the bootloader of their devices disproves your unfounded assumptions. It is prima facie evidence of Sony's explicit approval. There are things that a developer can do to an unlocked phone that are either legal or illegal or acceptable and unacceptable. Examples:
1.) Modifying a phone's operating system for purposes such as changing the look and feel of the device, for automation or for the addition of certain desirable features found in other OS releases is (within certain bounds); Acceptable.
2.) Modifying the device to circumvent regulatory restrictions or carrier use agreements?; Not Acceptable.
My point to the OP was that they DO unlock SOME Xperia Z phones regardless of model; that they DO provide assistance in doing so; but that they CAN unlock them all and that they don't explain why the won't. My point is that there is an underlying factor that remains unexplained and I thought that an explanation was worth pursuing. DID YOU NOT GET THAT? I consider this question interesting and the answers murky at best. Why some and not all? Had I NOT asked them why and why not, that would have been stupid. Had I not sought clarification here at a forum that is dedicated to developers, that would have been stupid. Expecting that the OP would have been answered with rational discussion or friendly advice: OBVIOUSLY STUPID.
Alas, I am not mad at you for having your opinion no matter how misguided. I will ALSO refrain from calling you names or implying that, your position, your actions, or your opinions are 'stupid', 'pointless' or 'illegal'. If you want to discuss the topic, fine. Otherwise, please cut the crap. I'll cop to being ignorant. Ignorance can be cured. Stupidity, not so much.
Stupid is NOT trying to remedy ignorance by seeking answers. You don't like the OP? Then go read another. You want to just be hostile? It say a lot about you - not me.
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You realize that Im just writing obvious things? Because idea of asking official support for unlocking bootloader is just weird.
You can be mad that from your perspective my point is not valid.... because core of your question contain no fricking point at all.
You asked support for unlocking: They said they dont do this.
In your phone manual there is mention: "Any change or modification not expressly approved by Sony may void the user's authority to operate the equipment.", and I think access to bootloader just to have fun with kernel is part of that "modification"
There is about 1000 topic about bootloader on XDA, and they all mention the same thing: if it say no, its no. Simple.
So what you expect them to do? What you expect from XDA when you made this topic? All we can say is obvious thing that everyone know: ts not possible, especially with help of official support, that is not made for that.
Before you even bought your phone you should think and check your device, I always ask to turn phone on before buy it, its a matter of typing *#*#service#*#* to check it, its about 9sec to find bootloader section.
You can be mad at me, Sony or Obama, or anyone who is trendy right now, No one care. All what I write, is obvious things that everyone known.
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I have Oneplus 3T Oxygen OS 4.1.6
My friend told me yesterday that android can be easily hacked, But i dont believe him
I have encryped my device+lockscreen pin+fingureprint+No malwares+ security pin for recovery and os startup too
Usb debugging is disabled, as well as oem unlocking disabled too, My question is if someone steals my device will he be able to get my data?, Will he able to change IMEI?, Without changing any hardware
My friend is betting on that android can be hacked even if i its secured. Is there any chances that it can be hacked????
Does this friend even have any specific technical knowledge of smartphones, Android, etc.; or just repeating rumors and hearsay?
Speaking not as a security expert, but just as a longtime Android user: Hacking like you said (unmodified phone, stealing it and trying to access your personal data) is pretty much nonsense. In strict technical terms, any device can be hacked eventually. But it would be difficult to do so, given the phone is encrypted. And by the time they did that, most folks would have been savvy enough to cancel their credit cards, change their important passwords, etc.
You can also remote wipe the phone, although it needs to be powered on, and connected to the Internet to do so. And smart thieves will have shut off the phone and/or turned on airplane mode.
Predominating philosophy would be that criminals are going for the lowest hanging fruit. It's far more likely the thief will just wipe the phone, and try to sell it. On the data theft side, there are easier methods to steal personal info than trying to hack an encrypted phone.
https://xkcd.com/538/
Didgeridoohan said:
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Yeah, pretty much!
redpoint73 said:
Does this friend even have any specific technical knowledge of smartphones, Android, etc.; or just repeating rumors and hearsay?
Speaking not as a security expert, but just as a longtime Android user: Hacking like you said (unmodified phone, stealing it and trying to access your personal data) is pretty much nonsense. In strict technical terms, any device can be hacked eventually. But it would be difficult to do so, given the phone is encrypted. And by the time they did that, most folks would have been savvy enough to cancel their credit cards, change their important passwords, etc.
You can also remote wipe the phone, although it needs to be powered on, and connected to the Internet to do so. And smart thieves will have shut off the phone and/or turned on airplane mode.
Predominating philosophy would be that criminals are going for the lowest hanging fruit. It's far more likely the thief will just wipe the phone, and try to sell it. On the data theft side, there are easier methods to steal personal info than trying to hack an encrypted phone.
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I understand what you said, There was a debate between me and my friend which is better ios or android, He told me even with extreme security on android i can be easily hacked without even any harware change? This thing is annoying me, How could someone get access is I have encrypted+security pin+Recovery Pin. Is it still possible to get into device?
Your friend sounds like a crazy apple fanboy (no offense). I personally wouldn't even bother to engage in that argument, it's pointless. Don't worry, your device is perfectly safe.
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There was a debate between me and my friend which is better ios or android
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I suspected as much. I don't think your friend has any clue about Android or smartphone security.
Ritss778 said:
He told me even with extreme security on android i can be easily hacked without even any harware change? This thing is annoying me, How could someone get access is I have encrypted+security pin+Recovery Pin. Is it still possible to get into device?
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Your friend is just plain wrong if he is saying your phone can be "easily" hacked just because it's Android. This just sounds to me like an ill-informed Apple fanboy, who wrongly thinks a device is "inferior" just because it's not Apple; without actually knowing any technical details or information.
These smartphones all do the same things, fundamentally. iOS is not significantly any more or less secure than Android. Just look at the massive iCloud hack where hundreds of celebrity photos were stolen. And your friend want to say his phone is "more secure" just because Apple?
Malware is probably the biggest security threat for Android (more so than iOS). But as long as you only install only reputable apps, and halfway careful when allowing app permissions, you should be safe. And it doesn't sound like malware is what your friend is talking about, but rather physical theft and subsequent hacking.
In theory, hacking any device is "possible" (given enough time and effort) but that doesn't mean its probable. Nothing about Android makes it "easy" to hack outright. It would probably take a hacker days, weeks, if ever, to break the encryption. And it would require a technological wizard. It's not even worth the effort, for relatively little payoff (at most, gaining your access to your bank account?). Someone with that much skill is going after bigger fish, like the kind of security breaches that compromise thousands of credit card numbers.
In reality, criminals will go for lowest hanging fruit. Folks with phones that are not encrypted or secured. Or some phishing scheme or social engineering to obtain a password or other personal info. Why spend hundreds of hours trying to hack a single phone's encryption, when you can trick someone into giving you their credit card number in a few minutes?
In any case, iPhones are the most stolen phone, last I heard. Therefore, your friend is at more risk of just having his phone stolen, in the first place.
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Your friend sounds like a crazy apple fanboy (no offense). I personally wouldn't even bother to engage in that argument, it's pointless. Don't worry, your device is perfectly safe.
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Pretty much the point I was trying to make, but without all my rambling! :laugh:
Ritss778 said:
I understand what you said, There was a debate between me and my friend which is better ios or android, He told me even with extreme security on android i can be easily hacked without even any harware change? This thing is annoying me, How could someone get access is I have encrypted+security pin+Recovery Pin. Is it still possible to get into device?
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Think from a different prospective...
If your phone is stolen doesn't matter iOS or driod or xyz. There are ways to get access to data.
If you are using it then security and safety depends on one thing. Your brain.
In terms of data, most data we have resides in cloud including photos, facebook, whatsapp, we chat etc etc. It's all in cloud owned by someone to advertise on us.
I hope to find support inside the community of all xda-developers. For months I looked at different Top Smartphone models. I have now decided on 01 September for a Huawei P20 Pro. The hardware is convincing.
Shock! they don't give out bootloader unlock code anymore. So the hardware is worthless. My company forbids me to use software with Google or other Cloud applications as a working tool. And honestly, I don't want that either.
So there I am sitting on a 1000 USD expensive piece of ****.
I have made a video where I beat the new beautiful useless piece of dirt with a hammer and burn afterwards.
This is very promotional and recorded with my (rooted) ASUS Phone
Who would like to support me and send videos or post them on Youtube. I make a nice website where all videos are collected and invest another 1000 USD to get on Google at place 1. I need at least 1000 videos
I need your support. Think of something nice to rape and abuse a Huawei Phone. Make a nice movie and show what you think of Huawei.
I have started a contribution on Reddit hoping to find broad support. I have been deceived. worthless hardware and lost a lot of money. :crying:
So you destroyed your phone (that you paid for - and that Huawei already has the money for) to show them.
And you would like others to buy a phone and destroy it. How will that hurt them exactly?
First Nike, then this.. **sigh**
The way you think and what you typed in your post dropped my IQ to zero.. thank you.
DestroyHuawei said:
I hope to find support inside the community of all xda-developers. For months I looked at different Top Smartphone models. I have now decided on 01 September for a Huawei P20 Pro. The hardware is convincing.
Shock! they don't give out bootloader unlock code anymore. So the hardware is worthless. My company forbids me to use software with Google or other Cloud applications as a working tool. And honestly, I don't want that either.
So there I am sitting on a 1000 USD expensive piece of ****.
I have made a video where I beat the new beautiful useless piece of dirt with a hammer and burn afterwards.
This is very promotional and recorded with my (rooted) ASUS Phone
Who would like to support me and send videos or post them on Youtube. I make a nice website where all videos are collected and invest another 1000 USD to get on Google at place 1. I need at least 1000 videos
I need your support. Think of something nice to rape and abuse a Huawei Phone. Make a nice movie and show what you think of Huawei.
I have started a contribution on Reddit hoping to find broad support. I have been deceived. worthless hardware and lost a lot of money. :crying:
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You're not quite right in the head
One quick google search could have saved ya 1000$. That must sting.
heathenlife said:
And you would like others to buy a phone and destroy it. How will that hurt them exactly?
First Nike, then this.. **sigh**
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you have misunderstood something. I want to prevent anyone else from buying a phone from Huawei.
The internet is now full of people who feel the same way as I do. Individually Huawei will tell everyone that YOU CUSTOMERS are worth nothing and YOU CUSTOMERS have no rights. Only together are we strong. We need a ****storm.
I don't think one of this forum is good for what they've done.
Feartech said:
You're not quite right in the head
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You're absolutely right about that. Very angry and looking for revenge. I'd like to see your face if someone cheated you out of so much money.
all the pugs said:
One quick google search could have saved ya 1000$. That must sting.
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It is very painful ... Yes.
today a "quick" google search still results in hundreds, if not thousands of instructions how to unlock the bootloader ... that's why I bought this. And now ??
Afterwards one is always smarter.
another Google search results that I am not the only one. I can't imagine that the development community is very enthusiastic about it.
So why didn't you just put it back into the box and sold it as new, unused, just too big for my taste or something? Or if you bought it online, why didn't you just return it as it's not working as you intended? Why destroying the value of the phone and then search for revenge afterwards? Just doesn't make sense.
all the pugs said:
So why didn't you just put it back into the box and sold it as new, unused, just too big for my taste or something? Or if you bought it online, why didn't you just return it as it's not working as you intended? Why destroying the value of the phone and then search for revenge afterwards? Just doesn't make sense.
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I live in Southeast Asia in the middle of the jungle. The people here earn as much as this thing costs per year. Sending it back is also not so easy if you bought it in Hong Kong and you come back in 3 months.
Guys, thanks for the advice. But I want to fight. I won't put up with it. Otherwise I could have bought an IPhone. Probably nobody wants that here.
Why do these useless threads keep popping up...?
Inpain said:
The way you think and what you typed in your post dropped my IQ to zero.. thank you.
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Talking about your IQ or my IQ is something we better not do in public.
Your device is surely unlocked.
I want to see your face when they come up with the idea to check online if something is "manipulated" and just block your device.
Because this is the next step that comes.
"We've discovered that your device has been tampered with. For your security we have locked your phone. Please do not call Huawei Support" :laugh:
Just a thought game.
CaseyS said:
Why do these useless threads keep popping up...?
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Do you like what they did?
If you get cheated, don't you go against it?
Sad
DestroyHuawei said:
Do you like what they did?
If you get cheated, don't you go against it?
Sad
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Doesn't particularly bother me because I did my research before purchasing my phone and obtained my unlock code shortly after receiving my device. The company can do what they want. Not everything will please everyone and its not always a smart decision on their part, but research is key when looking into a phone especially when you're wanting to unlock and modify the system. Sucks you were too late to the party, but you'll just have deal with it and the smart decision on your part should have been to sell your device and buy one that pleases you instead of destroying a perfectly good bit of hardware
No unlock code = hardware is worthless
What have you been smoking?
Another useless post from a useless user...... USELESSSSSSSSSSSSS
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I think it's better to spam Huawei's support's mailbox with a petitions for bringing bootloader unlocking option back.
@DestroyHuawei
Feel for you mate.
You live and you learn.
Huawei stopped this a while back (learning that is, that and unlocking bootloaders)
Next time you commit a lot of money to a mobile device you'll research first.
Research, then research again, its just like anything else, you wouldn't buy a car because it sounded good, you'd want to know the pros and cons.
With that being said..
Where is this video of you beating your phone to death. Id love to see it
Sorry
DestroyHuawei said:
Talking about your IQ or my IQ is something we better not do in public.
Your device is surely unlocked.
I want to see your face when they come up with the idea to check online if something is "manipulated" and just block your device.
Because this is the next step that comes.
"We've discovered that your device has been tampered with. For your security we have locked your phone. Please do not call Huawei Support" :laugh:
Just a thought game.
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I mentioned MY IQ.. not yours, That's #1
#2, no. my device is not unlocked, and i will never need to unlock it.
Stop crying.
If I knew they were no longer giving a code
I did not buy a Huawei device
My next device will be from One Plus
Huawei still firmly rejects requests to allow bootloader access and I'm wondering if this is more intriguing to those who like hacking and modifying their phones?
It's not a challenge if you can unlock the bootloader and if you can't it throws up numerous hurdles to overcome.
With Emui being awarded BSI privacy protection certificate and the first mobile OS to do so, do you instead enjoy the device as is and feel happy feeling secure and Google tracking free?
You trade Google tracking for Huawei tracking. If you install a firewall you'll see how often the device phones back to Chinese servers. A locked bootloader isn't intriguing, it turns people away. Just look at the Snapdragon Samsung Galaxy forums, full of complaints, bounties etc.
Yes I'm happy that the phone is Google free as much as possible being Android, it's a step in the right direction.
I truly believe Huawei needs to unlock bootloader if they want to maintain smartphone dominance. People who unlock are aware of the issues and should be free to do so. If they are not developer friendly, soon they will be running out of options.
I absolutely love huawei hardware, if due to some restrictions they can't deliver software experience, they should empower developers to do so.