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Hello Everybody,
Recently i bought Nokia Lumia 625 Black, WP8.0, i was thinking Nokia 'll give me fab experience using their Lumia Windows phone but i am really disappointed using its restricted windows phone, the things which i don't like in Windows phone are,
1) Can't easily manage my files on SDCARD/exSdcard, i have download many pdf file in my lumia and i tried to copy them in my laptop but surprisingly i saw that there is no folder for downloaded file in phone storage or extSdcard.
2) Camera photo quality is not that good.
3) I Can't hide my application which i was used to in my Android Core mobile.
4) There is no much app in app store and moreover they are oldest and not updated, many of their app crashes, like whatsapp, truecaller, etc.
5) Can't easily manage your ringtones.
6) Third party call recording is not working.
7) NO DUAL SIM so what it makes you satisfied is its battery performance, thats it, really disappointed buying nokia lumia windows series phone.
8) No option for USB tethering for internet sharing.
my question is that is there any option to manage file on sdcard or extsdcard?
No official file manager right now, but on WP 8.1 there is an app called Pocket File Manager( http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/pocket-file-manager/56dd9c3d-fe0a-4ceb-84b0-043e58e55b19 or search for it on the app store ) that should be able to manage the sdcard files. Again, you have to be on WP 8.1 in order to use it.
Pocket File Manager works just fine on 8.0, and has full access to the SD card there too. The 8.1 version could add more capabilities, but you don't strictly need it.
Camera quality is one of those you-get-what-you-pay-for situations. You bought a budget phone, with relatively low specs aside from its screen size. What did you expect? It'll give better camera performance than almost any other phone in the same price range, but no, it's not going to match a iPhone 5S or Lumia 1020 that costs 4x as much.
Not sure what you mean by "hide my application"; can you be more specific? I've used Android but not extensively.
The third-most popular platform is going to be the third to get apps, or app updates. In my experiences the first-party stuff works extremely well and the stuff from close partners is close, but third-party is a crapshoot. You could try unofficial clients, if you want; it's not that uncommon for them to be better than the official ones.
How much easier ringtone management do you want?!? It's the top item in Settings, and you can add custom ringtones and message alerts to any contact anywhere you can tap their name (People hub, Phone hub, Messaging hub, etc.). Creating ringtones from media files isn't easy with built-in tools but there are plenty of apps which can do it.
Call recording requires hooks at a level of the OS that could also be easily abused by malware. Microsoft could make a special API for that feature, but they haven't done so yet. If this is a vital feature for you, you should have researched what phones support this feature before buying... Most people never need it.
Dual-SIM is supported in the latest WP version, which your phone is upgradable to (which, I should point out, Android phones often aren't...). However, your actual phone doesn't have dual-SIM. If you wanted dual-SIM, why didn't you buy a dual-SIM phone, like the 630?
USB tethering is possible on some phones - for example, I can do it on my Ativ S - but it's unofficial. Is there some reason the official WiFi tethering doesn't work for you? You can still plug the phone into USB to keep it charged while you do that...
Ah I didn't know it was out for 8.0 also. Thanks for the clarification GDTD
Hello people,
I'm a long time Xiaomi-User.
I saw this phone for 300€ (used, but perfect condition) and decided to buy it and give it a chance.
If it would be not that great (for me, ofcourse), I'd sell it and buy the Mi 9, since I love MIUI.
But yeah, since I already ordered it, here are my questions:
1. Am I going to hate EMUI? (maybe someone has experience with both MIUI and EMUI)
2. How's the camera after all the updates? I watched YouTube videos but since most of the good videos are old, I thought I should ask here.
- low light?
- OIS working as it should?
- video stabilisation? are videos really that bad?
- selfie?
- other?
3. Battery should be good? Over 6 hours SoT possible?
4. Any other useful tips for me, as a newcommer to Huawei/P20 Pro? Some must have know-hows?
Thanks!
ermm.. bump?
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Hello. I will answer,of course with my personal opinions.
I work in IT,so I talk a lot on the phone,and I receive plenty of emails,I even browse 9gag a lot,Facebook,and still I get 1 day and a half of battery...so don't worry(but I also stopped from startup most of the apps,except the ones I want notifications from,usually messaging apps),and I manually Debloated it(you can uninstall system apps using ADB,without root and without unlocking the bootloader,so no problems with warranty - I just removed apps like Chrome,Google AI,google photos,google music,google Duo,google Drive).
I never used a Xiaomi,so I don't know how much you will like the interface,but it's easy to use once you get used to it.
You can even activate a drawer for apps if you don't like apps directly on home screen,notifications can be changed to "unread" instead of the default one with a dot on the app(I use unread,I like it better,so I know how many notifications I have per app).
Cameras are great(I hope your device is alright,since it's not new).
I have the european version with update 9.0.0.195
Cameras are really good with AI,and you have a Master AI slider,so you can disable it. An advice: after updating to latest version,wipe cache partition from Recovery(turn off the phone,then hold the volume + while turning it on,and do not release volume + button until it enters the recovery,then wipe cache partition).
After booting,just go to settings - apps - Camera - storage and wipe data for this app,so it will not use the old files from old version.
And an advice for photos with multiple people(doesn't matter if you use the selfie camera or back cameras).
When you're making group photos,with multiple persons,disable the portrait mode either by touching the little X besides the "Portrait mode",or by sliding to "Photo" mode. Because if portrait is enabled,it will focus on one person and blur the others...it seems it's not for multiple persons. Someone told me it's the same on Mate 20 Pro.
Video stabilization is not enabled when filming in 4K,but it works well with 1080p 60 fps(it's better on emui 9 than on emui 8).
Hope I helped. Cheers!
chorba69 said:
1. Am I going to hate EMUI? (maybe someone has experience with both MIUI and EMUI)
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I recently moved from Mi 6 to P20 Pro. I actually like EMUI more than MIUI.
First of all I'm a big fan of app drawer which is missing from MIUI and can be enabled in EMUI.
To my taste EMUI 9 looks (icons, settings order etc.) and works (animation smoothness, power management) better than MIUI 10.
Although both those things are only personal preference.
2. How's the camera after all the updates? I watched YouTube videos but since most of the good videos are old, I thought I should ask here.
- low light?
- OIS working as it should?
- video stabilisation? are videos really that bad?
- selfie?
- other?
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I'm a bad photographer, but even I manage to do some good pictures on P20 Pro. Night mode is great, and overall the camera software is way more polished than what I had on Mi 6. I can't compare difference in camera between EMUI 8 and EMUI 9 because I upgraded pretty much straight ahead.
3. Battery should be good? Over 6 hours SoT possible?
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I don't usually check SoT, but overall battery life is great. On average I charge the phone every 36 hours (usually when ~20% left). With Mi 6 is was a bit less.
4. Any other useful tips for me, as a newcommer to Huawei/P20 Pro? Some must have know-hows?
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1. As already mentioned - Use debloat to uninstall apps that you don't need (use with caution).
2. Disable automatic power management for apps you want to run constantly (Settings -> Battery -> App launch).
3. Learn how to use the Camera app.
4. Don't expect for very fast Android updates (as MIUI user you should be familiar with that).
@exodus394 , @arty_a ,
first of all, thanks for your answers!
My P20 Pro arrived today and I'm still testing everything.
I'm pretty happy with everything except maybe the camera. I couldnt test it 100% but the photos I took with the phone, arent that great.
Especially the night mode. I could almost say, it's maybe 20% better than with normal mode.. I dont know, maybe I'm doing something wrong.
I used gcam (google camera) on my Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 and the Night mode on gcam was like 50 times better than on P20 Pro, although Xiaomi doesnt have that good camera as P20 Pro has.
I already wiped cache via recovery and deleted cache+data from the camera app, but it's still not good.
Anything I could do wrong here?
I was thinking about debloating and will do it now.
@arty_a ,
what are the benefits of disabling the automatic power managment for apps?
If it's enabled, do I stop getting notifications for some apps? (like MIUI had a problem with)
And, what do you mena with "Learn how to use the Camera app"? Manual mode or something else?
Thanks again guys!
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@exodus394 , @arty_a ,
first of all, thanks for your answers!
My P20 Pro arrived today and I'm still testing everything.
I'm pretty happy with everything except maybe the camera. I couldnt test it 100% but the photos I took with the phone, arent that great.
Especially the night mode. I could almost say, it's maybe 20% better than with normal mode.. I dont know, maybe I'm doing something wrong.
I used gcam (google camera) on my Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 and the Night mode on gcam was like 50 times better than on P20 Pro, although Xiaomi doesnt have that good camera as P20 Pro has.
I already wiped cache via recovery and deleted cache+data from the camera app, but it's still not good.
Anything I could do wrong here?
I was thinking about debloating and will do it now.
@arty_a ,
what are the benefits of disabling the automatic power managment for apps?
If it's enabled, do I stop getting notifications for some apps? (like MIUI had a problem with)
And, what do you mena with "Learn how to use the Camera app"? Manual mode or something else?
Thanks again guys!
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I think there is something wrong with your unit. P20 Pro is the best at night and low light photos. I even took photos in environments where I barely could see something with naked eye,but the phone took a lot of details,more than I could see...no phone can do that better at the moment.
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I think there is something wrong with your unit. P20 Pro is the best at night and low light photos. I even took photos in environments where I barely could see something with naked eye,but the phone took a lot of details,more than I could see...no phone can do that better at the moment.
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Erm.. Can you upload maybe two photos? Normal and night mode?
Thanks!
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Erm.. Can you upload maybe two photos? Normal and night mode?
Thanks!
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Ok,I will do that in a few hours,the sun is still up right now.
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what are the benefits of disabling the automatic power managment for apps?
If it's enabled, do I stop getting notifications for some apps? (like MIUI had a problem with)
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Exactly that.
In addition some apps can fail to autostart when triggered by other app (Waze + Spotify, AndroidAuto + pretty much everything). It's very annoying and frustrating when you run into it for the first time.
And, what do you mena with "Learn how to use the Camera app"? Manual mode or something else?
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Just check all the settings and modes you have, like "Beauty" and "Light" in Portrait mode, Pro mode where you can control pretty much everything, "More" where you have the slow-mo and a lot of other stuff.
Regarding "Night mode" try using it when it's really dark, not just low lite situation, that is where it shows its full power.
Very interesting thread. My question has to do with security. Since we all know about the allegations that have been thrown at Huawei about not being a secure phone since it is manufactured in China, what steps can the average Joe take to make this phone more safe without installing a custom ROM. I've already done the de-bloating steps listed here. Thanks in advance
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Very interesting thread. My question has to do with security. Since we all know about the allegations that have been thrown at Huawei about not being a secure phone since it is manufactured in China, what steps can the average Joe take to make this phone more safe without installing a custom ROM. I've already done the de-bloating steps listed here. Thanks in advance
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I apologize in advance for being harsh.
First of all - if you want to learn about this stuff go do some research, I mean, at least 5 first pages of google, don't ask anonymous people on a forum.
One of the things you will learn is that main concern about Huawei are not phones but other, enterprise, products - cellular network controllers, servers etc. Spying on people over phones is cool but not efficient, spying over governments and enterprises over their backbone and communication infrastructure is very efficient and scary.
Now, let me split my answer into 2 parts:
1) If you are concerned over hardware, don't use a smartphone at all. All manufacturers either produce their phones in China or at least use some hardware produced in China. If the Chinese want to physically bug your phone they will, even if it's an iPhone.
2) If you are concerned over software, then again, it's not only Huawei, pretty much any non-American manufacturer (Hauwei, Xiaomi, LG, even Samsung) can overnight push an OTA that will add "spying" software and I bet it will not be found immediately.
Now, if you are concerned about privacy and not security then:
1) If you use Apple or Google account you are already willingly give away a lot of your information to be processed by them.
2) If you have any social media account you do the same in addition to making parts of that information publicly accessible.
3) Regarding phone specific vendor (Huawei in this case) - don't use any vendor specific services (Huawei ID, built in Email app, AppGallery, etc.)
P.S. Custom ROMs can contain some "bad things" too.
As the title suggested..
Pros:
Dolby now available on wireless connection (Bluetooth)
Very smooth
App responsiveness
Camera
Cons:
None ATM
Feel free to comment your findings as well
you mention a pros for the camera. what was specifically new or better in 9.1 over 9.0?
tweedie said:
you mention a pros for the camera. what was specifically new or better in 9.1 over 9.0?
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Camera now has 30x zoom and moon mode..
pogi.paul0119 said:
Camera now has 30x zoom and moon mode..
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Plus easy way to turn on and off Master AI.
I was just going to say has it been updated with the P30 camera updates
Agreed !!
Pros:
Dolby now available on wireless connection (Bluetooth)
Very smooth
App responsiveness
Camera
+ (AI toggle for me, easy to access)
Cons:
None ATM
+ Cannot disable "App Suggestion" in drawer
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What is ATM instead for?
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What is ATM instead for?
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At the moment
How does it behave when rooted?
Possible to root when having unlocked bootloader?
Does the new filesystem mess thing up?
Does it work with a custom launcher? Can't live without nova prime.
Daniehabazin said:
How does it behave when rooted?
Possible to root when having unlocked bootloader?
Does the new filesystem mess thing up?
Does it work with a custom launcher? Can't live without nova prime.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79681506&postcount=9
not the same device but still.
jericho246 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79681506&postcount=9
not the same device but still.
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Ok, thank you, still haven't had anything pop up in hicare, could be that I've messed to much with my phone or maybe because it's not out for my phone yet, but I'm thinking of holding off. It's summer and maybe my phone needs a brake too
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so before to update i played a bit with the software i tried like 5 of them with both methods ,dload and hi suite , witch success but ,the best one for me it was the 263 witch is the loudest software for me
i tried a newer one 266 and 276 all works fine but i had to use an amplifier from google play store to add +5 on the slider to be loud and crisp the sound nice for youtube .
with 9.1 now i don't have any options . only the apk from google play store . maybe later on they will release a louder version so i can swap )
But beside this i love the 30x zoom option .is usable and good , and i think it will be better with a small portable tripod
i will attach some demo for this guys who expect or they think before to update ,
Guys, this 30x zoom is simply 10x zoom with cropped out the smaller region of the photo. You can take 10x zoom photo and crop it to get the same results
For me 9.1 is a step forward of course, but still, I miss Samsung TouchWiz/OneUI. Huawei's Android is so buggy... My every previous Android phone was Samsung Galaxy and when I switched to Huawei I feel like I got, like, 5 years back (in Android evolution).
As a programmer, I feel like Huawei presses their programmers to add as many features as other companies have in their devices, but they don't have the time/money to really polish these features, so they deploy it as it is, just so they can check them as "done".
Oh and I was hoping for new version of "Always on display" with support of third apps icons, but even in 9.1 this feature still sucks (for example, every notification icon disappear when the screen wakes up and goes black again) and lacks any kind of settings.
To sum up, 9.1 didn't change anything "big", and all the bugs I notice everyday - they are still here. And I miss Samsung
Con: Have to hold the power button way too long to get the shutdown menu to appear
Have you noticed that 9.1 is even much more aggressive when it comes to keeping apps in the background memory? Apps are being killed very quickly.
YES!!! Bluetooth Absolute Volume is at least an option now! It's hidden in Developer Settings, but it's there.... Now just to check if it works
Not sure on memory management yet
For me it feels a little bit smoother and that's all, pretty much the same emui for me. That ai button on the camera app is a great addition imo!
Absolute Volume does indeed work, but I'll definitely agree memory management is absolute GARBAGE with this new build. Seriously, Pixel phones don't kill tasks as quick!
Hello,
I'm looking for a new android smartphone.
I'm hesitating between Google Pixel 6 Pro and Vivo X70 Pro+ ...
- What about the phone stability ?
- What about OriginOS, I've seen that a new version OriginOS Ocean) is coming soon ... ?
- What is your overall opinion on the phone ?
Thanks
Also I'm coming from Google Pixel 3, does the migration path is simple ? What about backup restoration (call/message history, contadts, calandars ...) ?
DomZ said:
Also I'm coming from Google Pixel 3, does the migration path is simple ? What about backup restoration (call/message history, contadts, calandars ...) ?
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I'm answering to both questions regarding my user experience.
1) The phone is totally stable. Google apps work without problem except those which required to be installed as system (Android Auto, Hotword...)
2) Origin OS Ocean is coming before new year. Its functionality is basically advanced configuration known from IOS. We'll see its advantages and also whether it will spoil current performance. I use actual system with custom launcher and removed Chinese bloatware and my phone currently looks and acts as a pure Android.
3) My overall opinion is so far in favor of the phone. I like the system, camera, screen, stability and reliability together with some solutions limited to Chinese phones. Together with the constant improvements and pledge for 3 years system upgrade, I still believe that I get the best bang for the buck.
4) Migration is straight forward with the dedicated app either from Android or IOS.
5) You can have contacts, history and messages backed on Vivo account.
Hope I helped.
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I'm answering to both questions regarding my user experience.
1) The phone is totally stable. Google apps work without problem except those which required to be installed as system (Android Auto, Hotword...)
2) Origin OS Ocean is coming before new year. Its functionality is basically advanced configuration known from IOS. We'll see its advantages and also whether it will spoil current performance. I use actual system with custom launcher and removed Chinese bloatware and my phone currently looks and acts as a pure Android.
3) My overall opinion is so far in favor of the phone. I like the system, camera, screen, stability and reliability together with some solutions limited to Chinese phones. Together with the constant improvements and pledge for 3 years system upgrade, I still believe that I get the best bang for the buck.
4) Migration is straight forward with the dedicated app either from Android or IOS.
5) You can have contacts, history and messages backed on Vivo account.
Hope I helped.
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So i assume you have the Chinese Variant right? So it's easy to change the default launcher to something like Nova? Do gestures work with custom launcher as well?
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So i assume you have the Chinese Variant right? So it's easy to change the default launcher to something like Nova? Do gestures work with custom launcher as well?
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Exactly, I have the Chinese one. But I don't use Nova, I used to, but it doesn't suit my needs any more. It is full of options I don't need and lacks the ones I want. Now I use Star launcher Prime and yes, it supports gestures.
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Exactly, I have the Chinese one. But I don't use Nova, I used to, but it doesn't suit my needs any more. It is full of options I don't need and lacks the ones I want. Now I use Star launcher Prime and yes, it supports gestures.
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Thank you for your reply. Are you getting delayed notifications for apps? Is there a workaround?
Sorry, can't help you much with that. I don't use popular apps like Facebook, Instagram etc. Notifications for phone and messages I receive just in time as always on screen information. Same with signal but not as aos.
I use native mail app and it has minimum lag of 5 minutes by default. And I have to many mails to have notifications active for them.
Actually I hate notifications. They drain my battery and my time. Hence I use them as little as possible.
I just installed the OceanOS beta. I'm not a die-hard Android user, but I notice some nice improvements like a bigger box for grouped apps. There are a gazillion more improvements which I need to discover though, but yes, I am happy.
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I just installed the OceanOS beta. I'm not a die-hard Android user, but I notice some nice improvements like a bigger box for grouped apps. There are a gazillion more improvements which I need to discover though, but yes, I am happy.
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I'm happy with the Ocean too. Vivo never disappoints. I will publish a quick review later
piskr said:
I'm answering to both questions regarding my user experience.
1) The phone is totally stable. Google apps work without problem except those which required to be installed as system (Android Auto, Hotword...)
2) Origin OS Ocean is coming before new year. Its functionality is basically advanced configuration known from IOS. We'll see its advantages and also whether it will spoil current performance. I use actual system with custom launcher and removed Chinese bloatware and my phone currently looks and acts as a pure Android.
3) My overall opinion is so far in favor of the phone. I like the system, camera, screen, stability and reliability together with some solutions limited to Chinese phones. Together with the constant improvements and pledge for 3 years system upgrade, I still believe that I get the best bang for the buck.
4) Migration is straight forward with the dedicated app either from Android or IOS.
5) You can have contacts, history and messages backed on Vivo account.
Hope I helped.
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Hey can you tell me what apps you uninstalled? Also how did you set another launcher as your default? I made a vivo account and everything but it won't let me set any third party launcher as the default.
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Hey can you tell me what apps you uninstalled? Also how did you set another launcher as your default? I made a vivo account and everything but it won't let me set any third party launcher as the default.
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Bro I'm traveling right now and I gonna be back on Monday. I'll provide you with the desired information then.
Okay cool thanks a lot, don't forget me I'll be here waiting okay bro!
DomZ said:
Hello,
I'm looking for a new android smartphone.
I'm hesitating between Google Pixel 6 Pro and Vivo X70 Pro+ ...
- What about the phone stability ?
- What about OriginOS, I've seen that a new version OriginOS Ocean) is coming soon ... ?
- What is your overall opinion on the phone ?
Thanks
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Hi..
I hope that am not to late for anyone want to pay vivo garbage smartphone.. i own the vivo x70 pro plus OriginOS (chainese version).. and i advise everyone want to purchase this garbage to wait and look for another device.. i will explain my 4 months experience with that garbage..
i will answer this questions first..
-What about the phone stability ?
The phone is awesome stable but vivo os will spoil your experience with the phone if you live outside the supported regions for the vivo x70pro+ whatever if its OriginOS or FunTouchOS..
- What about OriginOS, I've seen that a new version OriginOS Ocean is coming soon ... ?
I am on OriginOS ocean and it is worst than normal OriginOS in term of experience.. and full with Chinese letters and words even when you change the OS UI to English.. !! They can fix it as easy and translate it fully to English like in FunTouchOS but they didn't..
- What is your overall opinion on the phone ?
Everything is awesome except the OS experience its very bad compared to other brands i have used in the past like samsung and lg and pixel and OnePlus and oppo OSs.. if you are in outside supported regions you will not be able to register an vivo account with your phone number which will let you set some accessbelity needed permission to the installed apps or to install apps from third party apps to your phone.. without the vivo account you will not be able to do that.. and if you make vivo account just without phone number activation you will not be able to use some features and functions and you wil not be able to change your account name from Chinese to any other languages.. i can confirm setting up an vivo account is simply a nightmare..
When its come to notifications (Whatsapp Facebook Instagram snapchat telegram etc) is the worst smartphone ever and you will never get notifications in time or never. just for wechat its work perfectly..even when you remove or disabled the .pem app to fix notifications issues receiving notifications will be better a little bit just little bit but when you restart your phone google play store and YouTube will not work any more because you removed the stupid .pem app..
This phone had awesome hardware with a garbage software..
I have removed my SIM card from this phone and put it back in my older lg v50 since I can't use the x70pro+ as my daily driver.. i offered my vivo x70pro+ for sell tow weeks back and i didn't get any offers on it till today.. now i mainly use the lg v50 for social media and phone calls and the x70pro+ just for camera & gaming and watching YouTube.. if i sold the x70pro+ i will pay the pixel 7 pro for sure..
This x70pro+ garbage is not friendly user experience at all..
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Yes there is by removing .pem app but when you remove it and restart your phone the play store and YouTube will not work anymore.. i tried many times by removing or disableing and even reset my phone many time and the same issues happened every time i remove or disable .pem garbage..
Even if you removed or disabled the pem it not a total fix for the notifications issues..
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So i assume you have the Chinese Variant right? So it's easy to change the default launcher to something like Nova? Do gestures work with custom launcher as well?
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You can change the garbage vivo home launcher but is not easy as other brands OS.. and you will not be able to use the slide gesture in the navigation bar to jumb to the previous used apps in recent apps if u change the vivo launcher!!
Also you will get a stupid message everytime you restart or turn on the phone warning you the third party launcher is harmful!!
What a garbage..
DomZ said:
Also I'm coming from Google Pixel 3, does the migration path is simple ? What about backup restoration (call/message history, contadts, calandars ...) ?
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It is possible but not simple at all..
Tend to disagree with the notifications. It takes some diving into the settings, but mine work fine for the apps I'm interested in. Whatsapp notifications even show earlier on my OriginOS Vivo than an Android One Motorola.
I bought mine simply for the camera which is awesome. The rest is of less importance. So take in mind what your main functionality is with the device and use that in making your decisions.
Tyrone_585 said:
Okay cool thanks a lot, don't forget me I'll be here waiting okay bro!
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Hi, sorry it took me so long, I had some urgent matters to fix after arriving home. Now, let's deal with your request:
About adb removed apps, my list is as follows:
Baidu Keyboard -> com.baidu.input_vivo
Browser -> com.vivo.browser
Calendar -> com.bbk.calendar
Calendar Widget -> com.vivo.widget.calendar
Car Launcher -> com.vivo.carlauncher
CarLife+ -> com.baidu.carlife.vivo
Cleanup -> com.vivo.widget.cleanspeed
Digital Wellbeing -> com.vivo.familycare.local
Easy Share -> com.vivo.easyshare
Easy Touch-> com.vivo.floatingball
Email -> com.vivo.email
Favourites -> com.vivo.favorite
Find Phone -> com.vivo.findphone
Fuel Summary -> com.vivo.fuelsummary
Game Center -> com.vivo.game
GameWatch -> com.vivo.gamewatch
Global Search -> com.vivo.globalsearch
iMusic -> com.android.bbkmusic
iVideo -> com.android.VideoPlayer
Jovi -> com.vivo.assistant
Jovi InLife Service -> com.vivo.smartLife
Jovi Vision -> com.vivo.vtouch
Jovi Voice -> com.vivo.agent
Kids Mode -> com.vivo.childrenmode
Mobile KTV -> com.vivo.vivokaraoke
Network Location -> com.baidu.map.location
Plugin -> com.vivo.magazine
Power Guardian -> com.vivo.pem
QuickPay -> com.vivo.quickpay
Reader -> com.chaozh.iReader
SpeechSuite -> com.iflytek.speechsuite
Tips -> com.vivo.Tips
Ultra Game Mode -> com.vivo.gamecube
VHome -> com.vivo.vhomeguide
Vivo.com -> com.vivo.space
Vivo Cloud -> com.bbk.cloud
Voice Wakeup -> com.vivo.voicewakeup
Vivo Wallet -> com.vivo.wallet
Weather -> com.vivo.weather
Weather -> com.vivo.dream.weather
Weather Widget -> com.vivo.widgetweather
Weather Storage -> com.vivo.weather.provider
Warranty - com.vivo.warranty
Sim - com.vivo.simcontacts
Music - com.vivo.musicwidgetmix
Game - com.vivo.gametrain
I didn't uninstall some Vivo apps that are usually removed, becauseI found them useful (mail, sms, docs...)
I don't have any issues after uninstalling com.vivo.pem as you may see in some others reports. I assume that they might remove something else important (part of the system architecture - launcher base?).
And I can confirm again that the phone is totally stable without issues at all.
Finally, I bought the right dongle to bypass the lack of Android Auto and there are no more shortcomings left for my mode of phone use. Yes, on AOS there are notifications only for phone and messages, others appears only on the home screen. But I don't feel deprived because of that. And Vivo is delaying with the Android 12, which is not a pattern but rather a consequence of the engagement with the Ocean. I believe that after 12 (Ocean 3) the upgrades will be more fluent and Vivo promised 3 full Android upgrades.
About the launcher: you have to enable "replace system launcher" in "more security settings" and set your custom launcher as default (in default apps). You may still see warning: use system launcher after resetting the phone now and then, but you simply cancel it.
I don't use Nova launcher, even I bought the prime license once. I use Star launcher prime which is lightweight and far more versatile. It suits my needs perfectly, and I can do everything I want in form of adaptations. And no issues, no china at all. Attached is my new home screen.
Okay thanks a lot my friend. I went thru the forums and found out how to delete the apps blocking my notifications and how to use the third party launcher lol. But still thanks for getting back to me cause I wanted to see the apps you uninstalled because I tried removing some apps and they won't leave. Like the imusic and the wallet app won't uninstall idk why.
As for the other guys having problems with his phone after removing the com.vivo.pem I don't have that issue at all I can restart my phone just fine and google play services work and everything so it unfortunate he's having such issues but my phone works great I love it and have no problems. Just waiting for Android 12 and I'll be fine thanks again buddy!
is that another limitation as well? I can seem to backup device to google drive. As far as I read from all the threads, Android Auto, location history did not work. But I didnt see backing up device to google (and restoring).
Just wondering and sorry if I missed it somewhere on the threads.
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is that another limitation as well? I can seem to backup device to google drive. As far as I read from all the threads, Android Auto, location history did not work. But I didnt see backing up device to google (and restoring).
Just wondering and sorry if I missed it somewhere on the threads.
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It doesn't work too even when it's rarely mentioned.
ok..Thats that .
Thanks
There are plenty more google services just not as widely used that don't work.
E g. Google Play Services for AR (formerly ARCore). Some Vivo China OS devices support it, others don't according to google compatibility list. It kinda stops at x50 pro however (with x80 vanilla being the odd newer exception). You can side load it but then you also need to side load / apk install any app that is AR only on Play store.
It should be offered in vivo appstore if compatible for vivo devices but x90 pp doesn't list it.
I'm not sure if for example pokemon Go works however. On a first try it only showed AR instead of AR+ which it should show with ARCore. If it only enables AR+ with full google compatibility indicated it will not work. If it can be set to just ignore compatibility it will work.
Google assistant barely works (no conversation, no hotword). Quite a few other missing things here and there ( not sure how many can be partly solved by side loading)
worse thing is Im hooked on this phone...but everyday theres a little bit of you cant do this and cant do that...shame. because if they did a global version its a winner..
I am wondering how funtouch 13 compares to color OS...almost tempted to try the x90 pro global as the 1 inch camera and the hardware I am sold on.
I am still struggling with notifications on lock screen only, and things like nearby share dont work..like little things that add up.....
rudabb said:
worse thing is Im hooked on this phone...but everyday theres a little bit of you cant do this and cant do that...shame. because if they did a global version its a winner..
I am wondering how funtouch 13 compares to color OS...almost tempted to try the x90 pro global as the 1 inch camera and the hardware I am sold on.
I am still struggling with notifications on lock screen only, and things like nearby share dont work..like little things that add up.....
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Not possible to use Google backup on a phone without root for me is a huge problem, not a small one. Because it means days to restore should you move to another phone respectively should you need to hard reset....
But yeah in principle it's a great hardware (except modem, some sensors like compass and the slow charging on PD chargers plus the uber sensitivity to charging cables), just software that hits a few bugs every single day.
I really feel you need to be a die hard Vivo fanboy to overlook those problems.
Buying a Xiaomi virtually anyone outside China just flashes xiaomi.eu custom ROM. Very different situation. Same for OnePlus just flash to global (though with OnePlus 11 this got mighty complicated especially with region lock)..
But for example for AR vivo 90 pro global isn't certified either, so that actually had nothing much to do with google. Other Chinese brands certify all their midranger and flagships because it affects also all Chinese apps that want to use AR as it's the only AR platform for Android. And yes side loading works but if the system reports it cannot do it, while it can it poses app developers into big problems. If they just enable AR features for all phones then those who didn't side load the AR services will get bugs...
If you want the 1" sensor just wait for Xiaomi 13 Ultra and either get global directly or wait for a Xiaomi.eu ROM (many shops will pre flash). It will have the 1" sensor with variable aperture as it seems and that's a huge plus because in quite a lot of situations the bokeeh is too much (e.g food pictures). Or wait what Samsung does with the announced big camera update end of March (or use gcam on S23u, it's really dialled by now and way superior to stock and doesn't have the problems gcam has on X90pp). Then Pixel 8 pro should have 1/1.12" sensor too but that's a long wait...
The Magic 5 pro cannot really convince me for upgrade. They also botched the modem like Vivo and the zoom isn't too good. I would prefer it but not good enough vs s23U. Also it doesn't seem to use actual crop from full resolution for 2x portrait and some more limitations on camera.