Hi there
I bought a bitzwolf charger for my EX-GOOGLE pixel 2 xl with power delivery( up to 30W).
It charges my xiaomi mi9 with different( higher) amperage than the original charger.
I know that the ohone can charge up to 27W but the original is only 18W or so.
My question is , did xiaomi did this because the battery would damage faster with a 27W or can i use it with no worries ?
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Hi ! I had 2 charger for my Oneplus 3 and cable usb type -c ( I had 3 cable usb type-c ugreen too but no charger)
Can I use my Dash charger with my mi 8 ? I had buy a mi 8 and receive it tomorrow global version with EU charger but don't know wich charger it Qc 3.0 or 4.0 ? And with my oneplus Dash charge is 5v 4amp can work on mi 8 or do buy another charger ? Thank you
ggkameleon said:
Hi ! I had 2 charger for my Oneplus 3 and cable usb type -c ( I had 3 cable usb type-c ugreen too but no charger)
Can I use my Dash charger with my mi 8 ? I had buy a mi 8 and receive it tomorrow global version with EU charger but don't know wich charger it Qc 3.0 or 4.0 ? And with my oneplus Dash charge is 5v 4amp can work on mi 8 or do buy another charger ? Thank you
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it will charge at normal speed. I tried myself with original oneplus car dash charger, no fast charging for Mi8.
lockmunk said:
it will charge at normal speed. I tried myself with original oneplus car dash charger, no fast charging for Mi8.
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Ok thanks. I can use it no mistake but slow. I think buy a qc 3 or 4 it's good. For car I have too dash car and it's so good I loose it. I have car charger qc 2 or 3 I don't know.
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Rommco05 said:
DASH charger is good for OP, strange for others. Highly not recommended to use DASH on other devices than OP
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Why not?
It is a very good 5V charger, with Xiaomi you can expect up to 2A current, not more. Perfectly safe to charge anything, however not quickest charging option for others.
Rommco05 said:
RIP battery. Do u think it is good charging phone with no original charger? Especially with OP DASH
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Bull*hit....
Dash charging just doesnt work on mi8, normal charge will not cause any damage on any other phone or their battery.
you do not necessarily need a original charger from your phone manufacturer.
The phone negotiate how much power the battery gets not the charger ... the charger slows down the load balance to 2,4A (2,4A*5V=12W)
With a 2,4A output you'll reach ~12W at peak due to cable limitations you'll get 10w
QC 3.0 reach ~ 18 watt on peak with variable voltage and ampere steps. (3,6 - 20v)
Same on Dash Charge, Dash uses variable voltage and ampere steps like QC but doubles the charging lanes.
You can charge your phone with any charger you get, the worst you can get is slower charging speed.
tomsag said:
Why not?
It is a very good 5V charger, with Xiaomi you can expect up to 2A current, not more. .
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Bull****, the original MI 8 charge is QC 3.0 and I'm getting up to 3.3A on it.
It's very fast..
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Flash-User said:
Bull*hit....
Dash charging just doesnt work on mi8, normal charge will not cause any damage on any other phone or their battery.
you do not necessarily need a original charger from your phone manufacturer.
The phone negotiate how much power the battery gets not the charger ... the charger slows down the load balance to 2,4A (2,4A*5V=12W)
With a 2,4A output you'll reach ~12W at peak due to cable limitations you'll get 10w
QC 3.0 reach ~ 18 watt on peak with variable voltage and ampere steps. (3,6 - 20v)
Same on Dash Charge, Dash uses variable voltage and ampere steps like QC but doubles the charging lanes.
You can charge your phone with any charger you get, the worst you can get is slower charging speed.
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What he said.
Rommco05 said:
I see, probably u never heard about optimization, calibration and testing btw and that's isn't about fast or slow charging
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OKay its just your opinion but my opinion is you have no insight in electrical topics or the insight of such an charger.
optimization - the charger doesn't overcharge or use an overvoltage on your phone when its not support their specific fast charge technology it simply slow down to 5v - max. 2.4A, these charging speed will never cause any damage on your phone.
its just simple: an QC phone doesnt use the benefits of SuperCharge technology or Dash Charge and vize versa....
And trust me i've done more calibration and testing in USB charging topics and their different Charging tecnologys as you think (mobile batterys, chargers and so on).
I had several phones and several chargers and compared nearly all of them (QC, FastCharge, VOOC) and there is absolutely nothing dangerous to charge a phone with a QC charger if it is a supercharge phone.
But .... you ever can prove the contrary. I'll never stop learning but you have to tell me some facts.
I've searched info about using 45w PD charger with the mi 9 but didn't find anything related, has anyone used a 45w PD charger? Does the mi 9 supports 45w?
As far as i know xiaomi doesnt use the PD Standard and the fastest Charger you can use is the original xiaomi 27w charger, but maybe you will find some more answers here https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/accessories
saturday_night said:
As far as i know xiaomi doesnt use the PD Standard and the fastest Charger you can use is the original xiaomi 27w charger, but maybe you will find some more answers here https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/accessories
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Thanks for the info, I tried charging it with a 18W PD charger from Google and does work as fast charge, I was planning to buy the Google 45W charger to charge my Mi 9.
I couldn't find any info regarding 45W PD or non PD charge in accessories forum
Are there any other devices with the same power output? I have various Oneplus chargers, and a couple of Quick charge 3.0, but would like a spare fast charger.
MarkRobert said:
Are there any other devices with the same power output? I have various Oneplus chargers, and a couple of Quick charge 3.0, but would like a spare fast charger.
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You can buy the xiaomi 27W QC4 charger it does 27-35W
realme x2 pro has 50W, so something there shud fit
I've tried various chargers but the SOC was >85% so it wasn't a proper test. With most charger (QC or PD) I've gotten 15W, including with my 65W PD laptop charger. With the original charger I got 20-22W. If it's important to check the power, I can wait until it's discharged and redo the tests, which I plan to do anyway.
For travelling, I find it a lot more useful to have the 36W (18W QC + 18W PD?) cheap Amazon charger with 2xUSB-A and 1xUSB-C, which has the same size as the original charger: https://smile.amazon.de/gp/product/B07WFDTJFR/
Let us know how you get on. I tried my Samsung 25w charger, Pixel 3 charger and the Motorola 18w charger. All of them charge at 12-18w only. Stock charger goes to around 27w
I've now tried all the chargers and powerbanks that I have, QC3 or PD. All of them cap out at 16W, even though they can deliver more. I got the original one to charge with 30W (at 60% SOC).
The original charger is marked QC3 but they are probably not following the standard.
From my understanding the Snapdragon 732g has Quick Charge 4+ support doesn't it ?
manu1991 said:
Let us know how you get on. I tried my Samsung 25w charger, Pixel 3 charger and the Motorola 18w charger. All of them charge at 12-18w only. Stock charger goes to around 27w
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Yes, i've noticed the same. Around 27w max. Today i was charging my phone and observing the batt temperature. Kinda obvious, but the hotter the battery gets, the lower charging power it will deliver. Here in Brazil the temp this week is being around 36-42°C, so i put the phone over a bar of artificial ice. As the batt temp went under 35°C, the resultant "charging current" went to around 5500-6000mA. Doing the math, it was possible to arrive at the 27w result. (~4,5V x 6 = 27w).
When the batt temp was near 38~39°C, charging was down to 2000-2800mA (resulting to around 10-12w).
I also found something strange, it wasn't able to show the charging percentage with 2 decimals, as shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y8ja08uGEQ
Can someone give me a link for a u.s. charger for poco x3 device??
danieliswhattheycallme said:
Can someone give me a link for a u.s. charger for poco x3 device??
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maybe this?
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005001516773316.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.221f1870n5uSWW&algo_pvid=e82d72d7-5dac-413a-8e05-1657b2124e88&algo_expid=e82d72d7-5dac-413a-8e05-1657b2124e88-15&btsid=0b0a187916118446027031496e9a4e&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
For me GAN 65W chargers (Baseus) are good and universal quick chargers.
I have made a quick test in the thread Chargers and Charging speed
Hi guys ! I have Huawei 65W charger. Can i use that with my Mi 11 Ultra ? I was thinking is here why not to use it but I don’t want to fry something inside with long term usage.
This is a picture with the official xiaomi eu 65w charger. You can compare it as well to see the differences
It probably won't charge at 65w
I have a huawei super charger from my mate 20 pro (40w) and if I plug it into a Samsung or a realme or xiaomi etc it charges at about 10w
Huawei phones can detect the correct super charge brick and even using a non huawei cable will probably cripple your charge time
Thank you guys !
As far as I know (I have yet to recieve my device, but I do have a compatible 65W charger) it should be able to charge at 20V 3.25A (65W)
Worst case scenario it will just charge at the minimum speed available. There are all kind of handshakes and confirmations that happen before power is delivered from the charger to the phone.
Keep an eye on the battery temp... avoid draining battery below 20-30%
I have for example a type c charger brick from my hp elitebook laptop.
It has the same V/A ratio to do the 65w charging as the original xiaomi charger i posted above.
It does not work charging at 65w with the mi 11 ultra.
Be careful what charger you use and also the cable is very important !
I also use this type c adaptor to 3.5 and type c adapter ( to charge the phone and listen at the same time ) also this is the cable i use with my charger.
Hello,
I believe the CN version comes without a charger, does that apply to international version as well? In all unboxing I've seen of international version they came with a charger, want to confirm by anyone who got his international version since mine still needs 2 weeks to be here. Anyone can confirm please?
Hello everyone!! I bought a Realme 8 Pro recently, but its 60W charger is too big to transport.
I have a Qualcomm Quick Charger 3 charger, is it safe to use? I don't want to damage the device or the battery.
If it's incompatible, I have another one with USB 2.4A
Yeah , there is no problem unless it's a duplicate charger or battery