Wanted to post that on Verizon and Samsung website the LTE bands supported on the device doesn't not include bands 12 and 71 that T mobile uses. Well i have used it on T-Mobile and it connected to band 12 which leaves me to believe the Verizon edition supports all bands like a unlock model would. Single and bands 2 4 and 66 worked great and are the main ones used in my part but 12 is around also and connects. Don't have any area where there is band 71 so cannot test that but like i said probably does just wanted to pass the info.
cheapshot789 said:
Wanted to post that on Verizon and Samsung website the LTE bands supported on the device doesn't not include bands 12 and 71 that T mobile uses. Well i have used it on T-Mobile and it connected to band 12 which leaves me to believe the Verizon edition supports all bands like a unlock model would. Single and bands 2 4 and 66 worked great and are the main ones used in my part but 12 is around also and connects. Don't have any area where there is band 71 so cannot test that but like i said probably does just wanted to pass the info.
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Hey bud
I just started using the Samsung galaxy s10 5g verizon variant with tmobile and had band 71 in the band selection app but today I checked and the highest band it has now is 66. Why did band 71 disappear from the lte band list?
Would you know about that?
Thanks
Nevermind, figured it out.
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My Tmobile Note 4 runs on AT&T unlocked. Will I have similar luck with a Tmobile Note 5 on AT&T if I can get it unlocked? One thread points to a missing Band 17 on the Tmobile device, but I don't have a definitive answer. Looking for the benefit of rootable and unlocked bootloader.
what exactly is Band 17 used for though? 2G, 3G, LTE, Talk/Text?
is your N4 missing Band17 as well?
why not pick up an unlocked intrnational version?
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It is missing band 17, which is AT&T's low band.
Otherwise, it works great on AT&T.
wifiguru said:
It is missing band 17, which is AT&T's low band.
Otherwise, it works great on AT&T.
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I pulled up an LTE band tester and I am using band 17 at my house on my N4. I take it that means the TMob version is out.
That's right, the TMO Note 5 left out Band 17.
So Tmobile's complete 4g band list is as follows; 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, and 71.
According to clove.co.uk, and another spec sheet I found on ebay, the international model s10 will support all these, except for 71.
I ran into this forum below, which claims you can add additional bands to your phone;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
Whats the likely hood of being able to add this band to the international model s10?
Edit: Band 71 appears to be a 600MHz network, if it matters
Thanks!
Zero to none! That's a 2014 thread that hit a dead end...
T-Mobile's full range is: B2, 4, 5**, 12, LAA, 66, 71, and LTE-U**.
Being that LTE bands require hardware support one cannot create it in software. Sure, disabled bands can be activated on certain QC devices but that's an exception. The Galaxy S1 lacks support for LTE. Even if someone managed to add LTE on an OS level the phone still lacks the antennas, proper modem, etc.
Ace42 said:
T-Mobile's full range is: B2, 4, 5**, 12, LAA, 66, 71, and LTE-U**.
Being that LTE bands require hardware support one cannot create it in software. Sure, disabled bands can be activated on certain QC devices but that's an exception. The Galaxy S1 lacks support for LTE. Even if someone managed to add LTE on an OS level the phone still lacks the antennas, proper modem, etc.
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Never heard of LAA, LTE-U**, or 5**. Are those just separate frequencies? I just listed what I found on tmobiles site
So T-mobile uses bands 2,4,12,66 and 71 for LTE. The Exynos version supports all bands but 71. The non-US Snapdragon version from HK/China only supports bands 2,4 and 12. It lacks band 66 along with 71 per Samsung's site: https://www.samsung.com/hk_en/smartphones/galaxy-s10/specs/
Any of you on this model and using T-mobile, do you have slow LTE speed or coverage issues?
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So T-mobile uses bands 2,4,12,66 and 71 for LTE. The Exynos version supports all bands but 71. The non-US Snapdragon version from HK/China only supports bands 2,4 and 12. It lacks band 66 along with 71 per Samsung's site: https://www.samsung.com/hk_en/smartphones/galaxy-s10/specs/
Any of you on this model and using T-mobile, do you have slow LTE speed or coverage issues?
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What did you end up doing? Im on Tmobile also and want to have a phone with an unlocked bootloader so want to go with a exynos version but am unsure if I will miss the band 71, it does seem like it will really matter to me except if I go to Maine looking at maps.
Need help figuring this one out. I just got last week while visiting Illinois a P30 Pro L04 that is from Telcel Mexico. Got it from a coworker that lives in Mexico. It is unlocked and I am using in T-mobile ever since. I live in Puerto Rico where Tmobile has Band 4-66-71 for LTE. My previous phone is an Note 9 that I love and still think is better in some ways that the P30 specially in the software side. The cameras in the P30 are spectacular and step way above the Note 9. Long story short my P30 won't connect to band 66, only band 4. It is supposedly supported but it doesn't connect to it. I put my sim card back in the Note 9 and it does connect to band 66 as it used to. So it is definitively the P30 Pro problem. Does anyone know a way to verify what Bands are supported on the phone and see if it Telcel that blocked the band 66. Or maybe the P30 does NOT support band 66 as claimed? Does anyone has a L04 and can connect to band 66? I am new to Huawei phones and don't know what tool are available to verify this things.
I think you might be seeing 66 on your note, but it still really 4. (4 is a sub frequency of 66)
The 66 you're referring to will specify AWS-3. An app like network cell info on the play store should specify - though will likely only work on the Note assuming it's the snapdragon variant.
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I think you might be seeing 66 on your note, but it still really 4. (4 is a sub frequency of 66)
The 66 you're referring to will specify AWS-3. An app like network cell info on the play store should specify - though will likely only work on the Note assuming it's the snapdragon variant.
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Do you care to elaborate a little more so I can fully understand. Yes my note 9 is the snapdragon variant from Tmobile. I am using the Network Cell Info Lite App and it does show connections to LTE bands 2, 4, 66 and 71 on the note. depending on the place I am around my apt or outside. The P30 Pro only show connections to LTE bands 2 and 4 connections. I understand that bands 66 and 4 are related as they are the same frequencies , but still band 66 should give me better speeds and better connection as shall be not as congested., more blocks, etc. The Network Cell Info (at least the lite version) does not give me anything about the AWS of the band.
So my questions for you or anyone else are:
Are you saying that band 66 won't show on the P30 Pro even if it is connected to it?
Do you know of an engineering menu to really verify that the phone support band 66?
One of my main interest and one that may help a lot of people is to establish if the phone really support band 66 as claimed for this variant?
and if it does, does Telcel disable that support?
if they did, maybe with a generic firmware modem we can get it back?
Thanks in advance
ellopr said:
Do you care to elaborate a little more so I can fully understand. Yes my note 9 is the snapdragon variant from Tmobile. I am using the Network Cell Info Lite App and it does show connections to LTE bands 2, 4, 66 and 71 on the note. depending on the place I am around my apt or outside. The P30 Pro only show connections to LTE bands 2 and 4 connections. I understand that bands 66 and 4 are related as they are the same frequencies , but still band 66 should give me better speeds and better connection as shall be not as congested., more blocks, etc. The Network Cell Info (at least the lite version) does not give me anything about the AWS of the band.
So my questions for you or anyone else are:
Are you saying that band 66 won't show on the P30 Pro even if it is connected to it?
Do you know of an engineering menu to really verify that the phone support band 66?
One of my main interest and one that may help a lot of people is to establish if the phone really support band 66 as claimed for this variant?
and if it does, does Telcel disable that support?
if they did, maybe with a generic firmware modem we can get it back?
Thanks in advance
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I do not currently have a P30 Pro, so can't speak definitively. (Sold my L29 and have an L04 on the way) I asked about the snapdragon variant because these devices are generally the only that will properly break out band information for you to look at.
The answer to your question is a bit convoluted due to the fact that band 66 includes band 4. These are the AWS bands - band 2 is PCS, 3 DCS, etc. Some devices may tell you that you're connected to 66, but you are in fact connected to 4. (see here for a better definition: https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=570 ) If you look closely here, you will see that band 4 and 66 include the same frequencies, but 4 is specific to blocks A-F and 66 includes blocks A-J. Say, you're connected to block C, your phone could be telling you that you're connected to 4 or 66 - both would be correct, its just how the manufacturer has told the software to relay this information.
What you're wanting to validate is that you're connected to the "new/faster" part of band 66, which will be displayed as AWS3 for AT&T. On the RAW tab within network cell information (on your note) it should have the band info and then corresponding block information. If your Note is reading 66 (AWS13) this will probably show as band 4 on your P30 Pro, as it is technically .. band 4. If you are seeing 66 (AWS3) this means you are genuinely connected to the part of 66 you're after. If you see this on your Note and your P30 Pro is still showing band 4, I would suspect that your theory regarding P30 Pro band 66 support is correct. (aka.. not functioning)
Hope this helps.
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I do not currently have a P30 Pro, so can't speak definitively. (Sold my L29 and have an L04 on the way) I asked about the snapdragon variant because these devices are generally the only that will properly break out band information for you to look at.
The answer to your question is a bit convoluted due to the fact that band 66 includes band 4. These are the AWS bands - band 2 is PCS, 3 DCS, etc. Some devices may tell you that you're connected to 66, but you are in fact connected to 4. (see here for a better definition: https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=570 ) If you look closely here, you will see that band 4 and 66 include the same frequencies, but 4 is specific to blocks A-F and 66 includes blocks A-J. Say, you're connected to block C, your phone could be telling you that you're connected to 4 or 66 - both would be correct, its just how the manufacturer has told the software to relay this information.
What you're wanting to validate is that you're connected to the "new/faster" part of band 66, which will be displayed as AWS3 for AT&T. On the RAW tab within network cell information (on your note) it should have the band info and then corresponding block information. If your Note is reading 66 (AWS13) this will probably show as band 4 on your P30 Pro, as it is technically .. band 4. If you are seeing 66 (AWS3) this means you are genuinely connected to the part of 66 you're after. If you see this on your Note and your P30 Pro is still showing band 4, I would suspect that your theory regarding P30 Pro band 66 support is correct. (aka.. not functioning)
Hope this helps.
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Yes it helps a ton. I had to buy the full version of the Network Cell info to get the AWS information, not showing the Lite version.
The note 9 is reading band 66 (AWS13) in Tmobile. With the same simcard and location the P30 reads Band 4(AWS1). So I can't really say if the P30 Pro it is not connecting to band 66. I guess will be good if you give me a follow up once you get your P30 Pro L04 and you happen to be in an area with "real" band 66 support.
Thanks because I am sure this info is good for those that has this variant, or those that want to get one especially if its going to factor into their decision.
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Yes it helps a ton. I had to buy the full version of the Network Cell info to get the AWS information, not showing the Lite version.
The note 9 is reading band 66 (AWS13) in Tmobile. With the same simcard and location the P30 reads Band 4(AWS1). So I can't really say if the P30 Pro it is not connecting to band 66. I guess will be good if you give me a follow up once you get your P30 Pro L04 and you happen to be in an area with "real" band 66 support.
Thanks because I am sure this info is good for those that has this variant, or those that want to get one especially if its going to factor into their decision.
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For sure. I also bought the L04 variant for B66, so I'm hopeful that this band is indeed active. I will let you know what I find out.
Let me know if you run across AWS3 to validate too.
I've had my L04 P30 pro all over Chicago and St Louis the past few days (in areas I know have b66 coverage) and have yet to see the device pickup it up once.
My only thoughts are that the device only activates b66 once properly provisioned by Telus on their networks, or that AT&T will only tell certain devices to grab the band that they know have proper hardware for. (Internal database of devices, etc) I'm genuinely curious if any Tmobile people are able to pickup the band; generally Tmobile is more lax about these requirements.
Either way, b66 isn't supported on AT&T on my particular L04.
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I've had my L04 P30 pro all over Chicago and St Louis the past few days (in areas I know have b66 coverage) and have yet to see the device pickup it up once.
My only thoughts are that the device only activates b66 once properly provisioned by Telus on their networks, or that AT&T will only tell certain devices to grab the band that they know have proper hardware for. (Internal database of devices, etc) I'm genuinely curious if any Tmobile people are able to pickup the band; generally Tmobile is more lax about these requirements.
Either way, b66 isn't supported on AT&T on my particular L04.
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At least in different place in Puerto Rico it is the same, only band 4. I shall be in Chicago area also probably in like a month and in Mexico. Will take my note 9 with me to make sure I am in AWS 3 to see if I get band 66. if not then something is right with the phones having band 66 blocked.
Thanks for the update
ZTE Axon 30 Ultra review: A step in the right direction
Can ZTE make a flagship comeback and compete with the best? Find out more in this ZTE Axon 30 Ultra review.
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Looks pretty good, but no wireless charging, no IP rating, and the color balance between the 4 camera lenses is WAY off. Hopefully ZTE will fix that with an update.
Seems weird they sell this phone in the US while not really supporting US bands.
ZTE Axon 30 5G Specs - ZTE
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5G: n1/n3/n28/n41/n78;
FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26/28;
TDD: B34/38/39/40/41;
UMTS: B1/2/4/5/8;
GSM: B2/3/5/8;
4×4MIMO
LTE: B41/1/3
Pretty much useless on VZW and AT&T, very limited on TMo (2,4,5,12,n41)
craznazn said:
Seems weird they sell this phone in the US while not really supporting US bands.
ZTE Axon 30 5G Specs - ZTE
ztedevices.com
Code:
5G: n1/n3/n28/n41/n78;
FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26/28;
TDD: B34/38/39/40/41;
UMTS: B1/2/4/5/8;
GSM: B2/3/5/8;
4×4MIMO
LTE: B41/1/3
Pretty much useless on VZW and AT&T, very limited on TMo (2,4,5,12,n41)
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I have T-Mobile. Not limited on 4G-LTE whatsoever. But yeah, only 1 5G band supported. No 5G in my area anyway so I don't care about that. AT&T will also work just fine.
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I have T-Mobile. Not limited on 4G-LTE whatsoever. But yeah, only 1 5G band supported. No 5G in my area anyway so I don't care about that. AT&T will also work just fine.
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?? It's lacking b66 and b71. 71 might not be that important unless you are out in the country, but 66 is aws and is super important these days.
While I'm not that familiar with att, it's still missing 2 out of 5 bands
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?? It's lacking b66 and b71. 71 might not be that important unless you are out in the country, but 66 is aws and is super important these days.
While I'm not that familiar with att, it's still missing 2 out of 5 bands
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You're confused. It works on 5 out of 9 ATT 4G-LTE bands (all of the major ones), and it works on 4 out of 6 T-Mobile 4G-LTE bands (all the major ones).