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I finally found this Note8 forum hehhe.. Anyways, I spoke to 2 Samsung tech and they confirmed to me that the unlocked version that has snapdragon 835 does have an unlocked bootloader! I made sure he was not confused between sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked, and he asks me right away you want to root your phone right? He said it will void your warranty, and I said that is fine. Anyways to verified what he said is true or not? I mean both of them responded yes to having a unlocked bootloader.
Wrong
No, you cannot buy the Note 8 with an unlocked boot-loader on any network or if it's carrier unlocked. That just means it can be used on any carriers network. I'd like to hope for boot-loader unlock exploit but I think the very best we can hope for is perhaps a boot-to-root sometime in the future.
I wonder why they are telling us it does have it? Anyway to check ourselves?
xterminater07 said:
I wonder why they are telling us it does have it? Anyway to check ourselves?
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they want to have it secured,
Samsung is offering $200,000 for exploits so they can plug it up like Apple..
they have everything locked down for a few years now... and getting harder.. look at how it is... no development anymore for snap dragon models...
What we need, which won't happen, is for jcase to get a Note 8. My bet is he could figure out a way in but I don't think he is a Samsung guy. If we can get root at some point, I really don't care about a boot-loader unlock. When I buy a Samsung I go into it thinking I will never be able to unlock the boot-loader or root it. I was surprised when they got root on the S7 Edge but that was an engineering kernel that had it's share of problems.
The Exynos variant of the S8/+ are boot loader unlockable, so I'm assuming with the Note 8 being so similar, this will be the case for it as well. The issue is with the Snapdragon variant.
Further to this, some 'far eastern' models are bootloader unlocked out of the box. There are a number of threads on the S8/+ forums that attest to this.
Mike02z said:
What we need, which won't happen, is for jcase to get a Note 8. My bet is he could figure out a way in but I don't think he is a Samsung guy. If we can get root at some point, I really don't care about a boot-loader unlock. When I buy a Samsung I go into it thinking I will never be able to unlock the boot-loader or root it. I was surprised when they got root on the S7 Edge but that was an engineering kernel that had it's share of problems.
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Same here. Bootloader unlocking is a pipe dream for Snapdragon (Verizon here, so no choice) models. I do hold out some hope for root, which honestly is all I probably need. Give me my backup apps, ad blockers, etc.
they should offer a dev edition like they did on the note 4's.
I agree
It's probably a safe assumption but has it ever been confirmed that the Exynos version can be BL unlocked? I know the s8 was easy so probably this will be also, but I sure would like a solid confirmation before I buy one.
Mike02z said:
What we need, which won't happen, is for jcase to get a Note 8. My bet is he could figure out a way in but I don't think he is a Samsung guy. If we can get root at some point, I really don't care about a boot-loader unlock. When I buy a Samsung I go into it thinking I will never be able to unlock the boot-loader or root it. I was surprised when they got root on the S7 Edge but that was an engineering kernel that had it's share of problems.
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Forgetting @beaups wouldn't get you far.
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Has anyone seen the Note 8 exynos bootloader UNLOCKED versions? are they available? I've only seen the SD bootloader LOCKED versions so far.
Araltd said:
Has anyone seen the Note 8 exynos bootloader UNLOCKED versions? are they available? I've only seen the SD bootloader LOCKED versions so far.
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I thought they were all locked but easily unlockable. How are you telling the difference?
I stick with my promise to Samsung since note3
I will not buy another locked bootloader device, I will go with pixel 2 xl
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Has anyone seen the Note 8 exynos bootloader UNLOCKED versions? are they available? I've only seen the SD bootloader LOCKED versions so far.
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There is a difference between Sim-unlocked and bootloader unlocked. In terms of bootloaders, Exynos variants are unlocked whereas almost all Snapdragons (except Korean model I think) are locked.
Birbey said:
I will not buy another locked bootloader device, I will go with pixel 2 xl
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ok that's your prerogative. Note 8 Exynos models are not bootloader locked though, so you have choice
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There is a difference between Sim-unlocked and bootloader unlocked. In terms of bootloaders, Exynos variants are unlocked whereas almost all Snapdragons (except Korean model I think) are locked.
ok that's your prerogative. Note 8 Exynos models are not bootloader locked though, so you have choice
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Is any one of the carriers in USA using Exynos 9 series?
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Birbey said:
Is any one of the carriers in USA using Exynos 9 series?
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No, North American carriers have Snapdragon. Exynos models bought elsewhere can still work though, but it depends on the specific model and on your carrier (e.g. does the particular model support the LTE bands your carrier uses, etc.).
Hi,
Is there any way to get the bootloader unlocked or we are talking about a dead end 100%?
For 100$ less I mistakenly bought my Note 8 is the US though where I live (Israel) they sell the Exynos variant. I never would have done it if I knew it can't be easly rooted without "side effects" I don't care about Knox.
I am considering to switch to the Exynos version though I don't know if someone will buy it since there is no option for Hebrew in the UI.
Merry Christmas
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I finally found this Note8 forum hehhe.. Anyways, I spoke to 2 Samsung tech and they confirmed to me that the unlocked version that has snapdragon 835 does have an unlocked bootloader! I made sure he was not confused between sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked, and he asks me right away you want to root your phone right? He said it will void your warranty, and I said that is fine. Anyways to verified what he said is true or not? I mean both of them responded yes to having a unlocked bootloader.
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He said absolute garbage. If only what he said was true, though. Makes ZERO sense why the US Unlocked Note 8 can't have an unlockable bootloader since it's being sold direct from Samsung and not through carriers with carrier software.
After a few years with my Samsung Galaxy Note Edge (AT&T) [SM-N915A], which wasn't bad until the last 6 months and then the inability to root it made it worse, I want to make my next upgrade worth it. I'm waiting for the 500 Gb version, and I want to be able to root it.
Of course, my eyes are on the Note 9, but which version should I buy?
International (SM-N960F)
International (SM-N960F/DS)
Unlocked
AT&T
T-Mobile
Sprint
U. S. Celular
Verizon
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/reserve/
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After a few years with my Samsung Galaxy Note Edge (AT&T) [SM-N915A], which wasn't bad until the last 6 months and then the inability to root it made it worse, I want to make my next upgrade worth it. I'm waiting for the 500 Gb version, and I want to be able to root it.
Of course, my eyes are on the Note 9, but which version should I buy?
International (SM-N960F)
International (SM-N960F/DS)
Unlocked
AT&T
T-Mobile
Sprint
U. S. Celular
Verizon
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/reserve/
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International because it gets updates faster
And it has more development support (custom roms, kernels, etc)
Also ive been in this situation with the at&t note 4 ?
Looks like at&t doesnt want us to root our devices
So dont get at&t
jorgepr13 said:
After a few years with my Samsung Galaxy Note Edge (AT&T) [SM-N915A], which wasn't bad until the last 6 months and then the inability to root it made it worse, I want to make my next upgrade worth it. I'm waiting for the 500 Gb version, and I want to be able to root it.
Of course, my eyes are on the Note 9, but which version should I buy?
International (SM-N960F)
International (SM-N960F/DS)
Unlocked
AT&T
T-Mobile
Sprint
U. S. Celular
Verizon
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/reserve/
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Simply put, If root is what you seek on Samsung devices these days, Don't get any of the U.S. carrier editions of the phone.
All of the U.S. Samsung devices ship with Snapdragons and Samsung has ultimately decided to lock all bootloaders on them as well, That's not to say that a Dev won't attempt to work on atleast a root method for Snapdragon devices but with a locked bootloader you won't be able to do much.
Samsung's also implemented a rather interesting tactic to deter rooting on Snapdragon devices, When they're rooted, The device will no longer be able to charge to 100% and instead will default to 80% only.
This can be demonstrated on the S8 and the Note 8.
The S9 Snapdragon U.S. variants still don't have root to this day, When and if it ever does, that same method may be usable to figure out the Note 9 as well, But don't get your Hope's up.
Now for the international and Unlocked devices they ship with an Exynos and subsequently unlocked bootloaders which allows for the creation of Mods, Roms, And the various other things most people root for nowadays.
All in all, You want an Exynos equipped Note 9, Hope this is useful for you.
Thanks,
Almost right after the the post I came upon this article
https://highonandroid.com/android-deals/best-deals-on-galaxy-note-9-new-galaxy-phones/
it goes a bit more in depth, covering GSM vs CDMA, when and where to buy it.
It seems that the Latin America Galaxy S9 and S9+ (SM-G9650) both had Snapdragon processors with an unlockable bootloader. You could then Odin firmware on them to be able to use them on Verizon, At&t, and T-mobile. I hope they will release a Snapdragon model of the Note 9 as well in Latin America! I need an unlocked bootloader on Verizon for sure.
Critical Detox said:
Simply put, If root is what you seek on Samsung devices these days, Don't get any of the U.S. carrier editions of the phone.
All of the U.S. Samsung devices ship with Snapdragons and Samsung has ultimately decided to lock all bootloaders on them as well, That's not to say that a Dev won't attempt to work on atleast a root method for Snapdragon devices but with a locked bootloader you won't be able to do much.
Samsung's also implemented a rather interesting tactic to deter rooting on Snapdragon devices, When they're rooted, The device will no longer be able to charge to 100% and instead will default to 80% only.
This can be demonstrated on the S8 and the Note 8.
The S9 Snapdragon U.S. variants still don't have root to this day, When and if it ever does, that same method may be usable to figure out the Note 9 as well, But don't get your Hope's up.
Now for the international and Unlocked devices they ship with an Exynos and subsequently unlocked bootloaders which allows for the creation of Mods, Roms, And the various other things most people root for nowadays.
All in all, You want an Exynos equipped Note 9, Hope this is useful for you.
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It doesnt matter anymore which type of note 9 you get, because there is gonna be root protection where imei and network flies if you root, like the a8 on oreo
And also i agree with you, US carriers (especially at&t) prevent root all the way up to the fact that you cant root at all (the at&t note4 has no root but all the other note 4's have root)
will an international work on USA carriers?
oneandroidnut said:
will an international work on USA carriers?
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Yep, if its unlocked, if you lived in canada, it wont matter if its unlocked or not because you can unlock for free in canada
SaboorTheCool said:
Yep, if its unlocked, if you lived in canada, it wont matter if its unlocked or not because you can unlock for free in canada
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hmm wonder if it will work on verizon
oneandroidnut said:
hmm wonder if it will work on verizon
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And i wonder which infinity wallpaper will be featured on the note 9
I'm interested in the unlocked version instead of the T-Mobile, but I've read that the bands are not the same and wifi calling doesn't work. I'm over flashing ROM's, so that isn't an option for me. I'll probably get the carrier branded one to make sure I get the 600 band and wifi calling.
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I'm interested in the unlocked version instead of the T-Mobile, but I've read that the bands are not the same and wifi calling doesn't work. I'm over flashing ROM's, so that isn't an option for me. I'll probably get the carrier branded one to make sure I get the 600 band and wifi calling.
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You can though unlock the phone by visiting canada ? because you can unlock phones here in canada for free
SaboorTheCool said:
You can though unlock the phone by visiting canada because you can unlock phones here in canada for free
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I can unlock the phone here for free. Why go to Canada? I buy my phones for cash. I'm not stuck with a locked phone. The only reason I would go with the non-branded unlocked phone is the lack of bloatware.
Semantics said:
I can unlock the phone here for free. Why go to Canada? I buy my phones for cash. I'm not stuck with a locked phone. The only reason I would go with the non-branded unlocked phone is the lack of bloatware.
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You can flash CSC from the non-carrier version
oneandroidnut said:
hmm wonder if it will work on verizon
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Absolutely not
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force70 said:
Absolutely not
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I have the old gUDP plan so I need a phone that does NOT check for hotspot eligibility. I understand the unlocked Note 8 did NOT check, so it's likely the unlocked Note 9 would be okay as well. So I'm definitely stuck with the US unlocked version, right?
Geez, I kind of hate both Verizon and Samsung, but I want to stay on gUDP and want a good phone that will work for me out of the box.
geoclooney said:
I have the old gUDP plan so I need a phone that does NOT check for hotspot eligibility. I understand the unlocked Note 8 did NOT check, so it's likely the unlocked Note 9 would be okay as well. So I'm definitely stuck with the US unlocked version, right?
Geez, I kind of hate both Verizon and Samsung, but I want to stay on gUDP and want a good phone that will work for me out of the box.
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I also have gUDP plan on verizon and wondering same thing, do i get verizon note or unlocked??
oneandroidnut said:
I also have gUDP plan on verizon and wondering same thing, do i get verizon note or unlocked??
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My understanding:
Verizon model WILL check for hotspot eligibility and thus won't work for us.
International unlocked models will not work on Verizon's network.
Therefore, we're stuck with the US Unlocked model. It has a locked bootloader, and thus may never be rootable, but will work with Verizon and NOT check hotspot eligibility.
To be clear, at this point I just think it's very likely the US Unlocked model will NOT check hotspot eligibility. I will probably wait to confirm that before I pull the trigger.
geoclooney said:
My understanding:
Verizon model WILL check for hotspot eligibility and thus won't work for us.
International unlocked models will not work on Verizon's network.
Therefore, we're stuck with the US Unlocked model. It has a locked bootloader, and thus may never be rootable, but will work with Verizon and NOT check hotspot eligibility.
To be clear, at this point I just think it's very likely the US Unlocked model will NOT check hotspot eligibility. I will probably wait to confirm that before I pull the trigger.
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So unlocked model it is? And also does the 512 gb version come with 8 gb of ram in USA?
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So unlocked model it is? And also does the 512 gb version come with 8 gb of ram in USA?
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Yes
Hello All.
I hope this thread will help myself and others in a similar situation.
I went to extreme lengths and procured myself a N950N (SK Telekom Version) to be able to have TWRP and root and all that good stuff.
Problem was using that device on T-Mobile USA left me handicapped in terms of cell quality, LTE speeds etc.
I wasn't the only one either, a lot of folks who bought the F or N versions weren't getting the same Carrier Aggregation combinations or band\frequency usage that the US versions were accustomed to.
Should we expect the same moving forward with the Note 9 Exynos version?
If so, then the obvious inquiry will be related towards snapdragon -, it was months before samfail ever hit SD835 samsung devices, and even then it was handicapped until 10 months after release where it got slightly better.
IS the situation going to remain the same ? What are the developments on the S9\s9+ snapdragon in that aspect?
Just trying to make the right decisions as root is non negotiable for me... and i'm certain it is for many others..
and most importantly, will we have the OEM unlock issue if we buy the int'l model?
masri1987 said:
and most importantly, will we have the OEM unlock issue if we buy the int'l model?
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this this a thousand times this.
masri1987 said:
and most importantly, will we have the OEM unlock issue if we buy the int'l model?
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Yes of course it will.
Much better than having a locked BL and never having root, the snap s9 still has nothing and its been out since April.
OP i would look into the HK or latin America snapdragon versions, they are not locked and would likely have similar frequencies
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soraxd said:
this this a thousand times this.
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Agreed, it's why i went with the Korean Note 8 , to avoid the unlock wait period, but then i suffered because of band incompatibility
force70 said:
Yes of course it will.
Much better than having a locked BL and never having root, the snap s9 still has nothing and its been out since April.
OP i would look into the HK or latin America snapdragon versions, they are not locked and would likely have similar frequencies
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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@force70 , good to see you around these parts.
Wanna give me the resellers that would sell HK or Latin American SD versions with unlocked bootloaders?
All i know are the EU\UK Resellers & Wondamobile (not dealing with ebay again :\ )
masri1987 said:
Agreed, it's why i went with the Korean Note 8 , to avoid the unlock wait period, but then i suffered because of band incompatibility
@force70 , good to see you around these parts.
Wanna give me the resellers that would sell HK or Latin American SD versions with unlocked bootloaders?
All i know are the EU\UK Resellers & Wondamobile (not dealing with ebay again :\ )
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Yeah bro, i skipped the Note 8 but will be here for the 9! How you been?
I know pda plaza will have the unlocked snap, they are already doing pre orders and have them posted. Swiftronics.ca will have them also (both sites had the S9 unlocked snap when i got my exynos).
Kinda bummed no silver or gold but the copper looks kinda cool
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masri1987 said:
and most importantly, will we have the OEM unlock issue if we buy the int'l model?
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Please can you explain what this issue is?
I thought the international versions come carrier unlocked.
rajil.s said:
Please can you explain what this issue is?
I thought the international versions come carrier unlocked.
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Has nothing to do with network unlock, you have to wait 7 days for OEM unlock to appear.
Search for more detailed info please as its readily available.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
force70 said:
Has nothing to do with network unlock, you have to wait 7 days for OEM unlock to appear.
Search for more detailed info please as its readily available.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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the note 8 was 15 horrible days.
I'm on the oneplus 6 right now, i'm happy with it, but as you know, being a tech-slut it's hard to keep my desires under control.
masri1987 said:
the note 8 was 15 horrible days.
I'm on the oneplus 6 right now, i'm happy with it, but as you know, being a tech-slut it's hard to keep my desires under control.
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Tell me about it lol...
At least i know i wont want pixel 3, ugliest monstrosity of a device ever... and that inotch.....wtf were they thinking lol?
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force70 said:
Tell me about it lol...
At least i know i wont want pixel 3, ugliest monstrosity of a device ever... and that inotch.....wtf were they thinking lol?
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Yeah, the Pixel 3XL deserves its own Android P nickname:
?
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force70 said:
Tell me about it lol...
At least i know i wont want pixel 3, ugliest monstrosity of a device ever... and that inotch.....wtf were they thinking lol?
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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KOLIOSIS said:
Yeah, the Pixel 3XL deserves its own Android P nickname:
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Agreed. Total abomination. Shame as I was waiting to pick it up to replace my aging S6 but have now turned to the Note 9.
KOLIOSIS said:
Yeah, the Pixel 3XL deserves its own Android P nickname:
?
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Hahahah..... definitely
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I might be wrong, but i thought i read somewhere that ALL Note 9s were going to be using the Snapdragon. Is there still going to be an Exynos version for international?
cloudraker said:
I might be wrong, but i thought i read somewhere that ALL Note 9s were going to be using the Snapdragon. Is there still going to be an Exynos version for international?
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Lol....not is there going to be.
There is.
They are already up for pre order in numerous places. For example I got my exynos S9 plus here:
https://pdaplaza.ca/collections/sam...gb-metallic-copper-factory-unlocked-pre-order
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masri1987 said:
and most importantly, will we have the OEM unlock issue if we buy the int'l model?
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I purchased my S8, Note 8 and S9 Plus from CLOVE in the UK - (the F varient) and I NEVER had OEM Unlock issues in any of those devices. Never. I purchsed my Note 9 from CLove on the 9th - and look forward to getting it when it ships later this month.
To be honest, I don't know why some people have OEM Unlock issues for devices they buy on EBAR or other places and why I never have for the Samsung Devices I purchased at CLOVE - but it's enough that I will always buy new Samsung phones from CLOVE to help avoid having to deal with that.
force70 said:
Lol....not is there going to be.
There is.
They are already up for pre order in numerous places. For example I got my exynos S9 plus here:
https://pdaplaza.ca/collections/sam...gb-metallic-copper-factory-unlocked-pre-order
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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I'll make you a good deal on my Note 8 if you want it..
force70 said:
Lol....not is there going to be.
There is.
They are already up for pre order in numerous places. For example I got my exynos S9 plus here:
https://pdaplaza.ca/collections/sam...gb-metallic-copper-factory-unlocked-pre-order
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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I really want the snapdragon unlocked bootloader Note 9. Didn't really enjoy the exynos experience on the note 8,
Do you have link for the note 9 snapdragon unlocked?
Also, i doubt rom support will exist... or anything at all so what would be the point ? lol
masri1987 said:
I really want the snapdragon unlocked bootloader Note 9. Didn't really enjoy the exynos experience on the note 8,
Do you have link for the note 9 snapdragon unlocked?
Also, i doubt rom support will exist... or anything at all so what would be the point ? lol
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Can you specify why you are not satisfied with exyons version of you note 8?
wase4711 said:
I'll make you a good deal on my Note 8 if you want it..
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Hellz no lol. Cant stand the fingerprint sensor location, thats why i ditched my s8 plus!
Hows it going wase? Long time no talk bro
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masri1987 said:
I really want the snapdragon unlocked bootloader Note 9. Didn't really enjoy the exynos experience on the note 8,
Do you have link for the note 9 snapdragon unlocked?
Also, i doubt rom support will exist... or anything at all so what would be the point ? lol
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That same site has the unlocked snap also! They sell both so you can pick your poison. The N9600 is the snap you want
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Hello,
What model should / would we be able to get to work on Verizon that can have an unlocked boot loader, TWRP and install custom roms.
My understanding from reading here is that no US model will work. What foreign model is best for getting the above done on Verizon.
Its about time to say goodbye to my note 4.
Thanks
i am going to rock an unlocked USA model on verizon, not sure there is one that will work on verizon with unlocked bootloader
vIgGeN7 said:
Hello,
What model should / would we be able to get to work on Verizon that can have an unlocked boot loader, TWRP and install custom roms.
My understanding from reading here is that no US model will work. What foreign model is best for getting the above done on Verizon.
Its about time to say goodbye to my note 4.
Thanks
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Your only possible option is the 9600 since its a snap and im not 100% sure it will work
So Id suggedt researchung heavily before buying
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Ya I spent a few hours trying to find anything.
Only thing I was able to see that might work is a portorican phone but saw somthing that we needed some kinda firmware flashed first?
So made this post in hopes someone had an idea on how we could do this and make sure it works good.
Thanks!!
vIgGeN7 said:
Ya I spent a few hours trying to find anything.
Only thing I was able to see that might work is a portorican phone but saw somthing that we needed some kinda firmware flashed first?
So made this post in hopes someone had an idea on how we could do this and make sure it works good.
Thanks!!
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I have a friend with the Latin American S9+ Snapdragon that's bootloader unlocked on Verizon. He told me he just flashed the Puerto Rico firmware to get signal. I'll be trying the same thing as soon as the Odin files are up on Updato for the Note 9 Latin version. I'll update when I have some real results.
vIgGeN7 said:
Hello,
What model should / would we be able to get to work on Verizon that can have an unlocked boot loader, TWRP and install custom roms.
My understanding from reading here is that no US model will work. What foreign model is best for getting the above done on Verizon.
Its about time to say goodbye to my note 4.
Thanks
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The Snapdragon Variant - Hong Kong has an unlocked bootloader and works on Verizon Bands 1700, 1900 and 2100.
https://www.teamandroid.com/2018/08/14/samsung-galaxy-note-9-model-numbers/
varcor said:
The Snapdragon Variant - Hong Kong has an unlocked bootloader and works on Verizon Bands 1700, 1900 and 2100.
https://www.teamandroid.com/2018/08/14/samsung-galaxy-note-9-model-numbers/
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Latin America also
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jal3223 said:
I have a friend with the Latin American S9+ Snapdragon that's bootloader unlocked on Verizon. He told me he just flashed the Puerto Rico firmware to get signal. I'll be trying the same thing as soon as the Odin files are up on Updato for the Note 9 Latin version. I'll update when I have some real results.
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Do you have the model of the phone which you're talking about.
Will this work on the Verizon LTE bands?
vIgGeN7 said:
Do you have the model of the phone which you're talking about.
Will this work on the Verizon LTE bands?
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Ive been asked and have answered both of those questions already numerous times.....today alone lol
You guys really need to start using the search button, this is getting ridiculous seriously.
N9600
And in theory it should yes but as I am not on Verizon and dont know anyone who is i cannot say for sure 100%.
Again....you will need to do some more in depth research on your own but someone posted a chart with the models and LTE bands here somewhere today so start looking for that post...very useful. Id i come across ill link it here
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Found some info here for the sm-n9600 ::
http://www.pakfirmware.com/2018/08/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n9600-eng-boot-file/
Still trying to find info on if it works fully with Verizon bands.
Would the SM-N960UZBFXAA Unlocked from samsung's site work for verizon?
Also when they say unlocked is that the boot loader? or just to carrier?
They have preorder there.
vIgGeN7 said:
Would the SM-N960UZBFXAA Unlocked from samsung's site work for verizon?
Also when they say unlocked is that the boot loader? or just to carrier?
They have preorder there.
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Lol... carrier. We all wish it was bootloader
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vIgGeN7 said:
Would the SM-N960UZBFXAA Unlocked from samsung's site work for verizon?
Also when they say unlocked is that the boot loader? or just to carrier?
They have preorder there.
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The Samsung UNLOCKED = "Unbranded" i.e. generic software. It doesn't mean that its bootloader unlocked.
When using the USA unlocked/unbraded GS8/Note8/GS9 there were a few limits on the USA carriers... While calling/data/sms works, Carrier specific features like Wifi Calling, VoLTE, Visual Voicemail, etc. varied. I expected that would apply to the unlocked/unbranded Note 9 too. For unlocked on ATT, there is a VVM app in the Google Play Store that works, but if I recall correctly, Wifi Calling and VoLTE didn't work. For Verizon, at first there wasn't a VVM app, but there is one in the GALAXY app store now that works (and now will auto install when Verizon sim is in the phone if you open the Galaxy App Store). VoLTE (aka HD Voice) works. Wifi Calling and Verizon's Video Calling features do not work. T-Mobile seems most compatible with the Unlocked/Unbranded device as all of its features work out of the box. with a T-Mobile SIM, except you have to download the VVM app from Google Play Store.
Now that my Unlocked (aka Unbranded) Note 9 from Samsung USA arrived, I can confirm that just like my past unlocked/unbranded Galaxy devices on Verizon.... Bootloader is locked, SIM is unlocked. Wifi Calling and Verizon's Video Calling don't work. For Visual Voice Mail there is an app in the GALAXY App Store (that will install after you insert Verizon SIM and open the Galaxy App Store). And the rest works just like my Verizon branded GS8/Note8/GS9 devices.
Tethering check on unlocked version?
KidJoe said:
The Samsung UNLOCKED = "Unbranded" i.e. generic software. It doesn't mean that its bootloader unlocked.
Now that my Unlocked (aka Unbranded) Note 9 from Samsung USA arrived, I can confirm that just like my past unlocked/unbranded Galaxy devices on Verizon.... Bootloader is locked, SIM is unlocked. Wifi Calling and Verizon's Video Calling don't work. For Visual Voice Mail there is an app in the GALAXY App Store (that will install after you insert Verizon SIM and open the Galaxy App Store). And the rest works just like my Verizon branded GS8/Note8/GS9 devices.
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Does your version check for hotspot eligibility? In the past the unlocked versions have not checked (Note 8, etc.) but want to be absolutely sure with the Note 9 before ordering. Thanks.
All the research I've done points towards the 9600 (Latin America or wherever else the model is sold) being the best choice for verizon. The only fly in the ointment is it does not as far as I can find support band 13. I have seen threads in some other forums about enabling bands but don't know if it would be possible. Hope that helps.
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Does your version check for hotspot eligibility? In the past the unlocked versions have not checked (Note 8, etc.) but want to be absolutely sure with the Note 9 before ordering. Thanks.
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I don't know, and can't check because my personal Verizon line is a current unlimited plan that includes tethering.
I'll have to see what happens if I put my work sim in (I have Vzw, At&t and Tmo lines)
elevatorguy said:
All the research I've done points towards the 9600 (Latin America or wherever else the model is sold) being the best choice for verizon. The only fly in the ointment is it does not as far as I can find support band 13. I have seen threads in some other forums about enabling bands but don't know if it would be possible. Hope that helps.
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It's probably just the firmware that it ships with. On the Latin s9 and S9+ you just had to flash the Puerto Rico firmware to have all bands and Volte working. I'm thinking it will be the same way for the Note 9. I'm just waiting on the Odin files to be released and I'm purchasing one immediately to try.
jal3223 said:
It's probably just the firmware that it ships with. On the Latin s9 and S9+ you just had to flash the Puerto Rico firmware to have all bands and Volte working. I'm thinking it will be the same way for the Note 9. I'm just waiting on the Odin files to be released and I'm purchasing one immediately to try.
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Well thank you for being the guinea pig. I'm new to the whole samsung world. Keep us updated on if everything works.
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It's probably just the firmware that it ships with. On the Latin s9 and S9+ you just had to flash the Puerto Rico firmware to have all bands and Volte working. I'm thinking it will be the same way for the Note 9. I'm just waiting on the Odin files to be released and I'm purchasing one immediately to try.
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Ya looks like we will have to wait till I order this untill someone confirms we can get all the bands working on the phone here in the US.
*patiently waiting as my note 4 is failing. *
Guys see here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=77406260
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Hey boys, I'm from Sydney and ordered my phone through Telstra
I later find out that Samsung will sell dual sim version through normal shops and single sim with all operators ( vodafone, telstra etc )
now that's my question.
will I be able to use dual sim if I buy a sim tray which allows 2 sim and flashing a firmware from dual sim version or the dual sim version has a different hardware too?
thanks
ibizapower2003 said:
Hey boys, I'm from Sydney and ordered my phone through Telstra
I later find out that Samsung will sell dual sim version through normal shops and single sim with all operators ( vodafone, telstra etc )
now that's my question.
will I be able to use dual sim if I buy a sim tray which allows 2 sim and flashing a firmware from dual sim version or the dual sim version has a different hardware too?
thanks
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Previous single sim samsung phones only had one sim card reader.
ibizapower2003 said:
Hey boys, I'm from Sydney and ordered my phone through Telstra
I later find out that Samsung will sell dual sim version through normal shops and single sim with all operators ( vodafone, telstra etc )
now that's my question.
will I be able to use dual sim if I buy a sim tray which allows 2 sim and flashing a firmware from dual sim version or the dual sim version has a different hardware too?
thanks
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This has been asked only like 1000 times dude, ive never seen this work...its got diff hardware.
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force70 said:
This has been asked only like 1000 times dude, ive never seen this work...its got diff hardware.
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I'll own it as well, perhaps my Google Fu wasn't properly calibrated when I asked about it.... Guilty as charged. :silly:
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I'll own it as well, perhaps my Google Fu wasn't properly calibrated when I asked about it.... Guilty as charged. :silly:
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Well ill let it go this one time just cause its you lol
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KOLIOSIS said:
I'll own it as well, perhaps my Google Fu wasn't properly calibrated when I asked about it.... Guilty as charged. :silly:
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@KOLIOSIS, awaiting your Note 9? Hope you enjoy.
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@KOLIOSIS, awaiting your Note 9? Hope you enjoy.
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Yes,I ordered the purple 8/512 about 24hrs ago,from T-MoUS,expecting delivery by this Friday.
There's a lot to like,my favorite improvements include the 8GB RAM & the blockier/less-rounded edges. :good:
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Yes,I ordered the purple 8/512 about 24hrs ago,from T-MoUS,expecting delivery by this Friday.
There's a lot to like,my favorite improvements include the 8GB RAM & the blockier/less-rounded edges. :good:
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Im going to go for the copper version, can get the 128gb now but will wait for the 512gb for another week or so.
Really debating going with an n9600 instead of a exynos version for once just to try the snap out. At least the BL isnt locked on it so i can have root and twrp
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A true dual sim device will have *two* IMEIs listed on the box.
My Exynos S9+ does.
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Im going to go for the copper version, can get the 128gb now but will wait for the 512gb for another week or so.
Really debating going with an n9600 instead of a exynos version for once just to try the snap out. At least the BL isnt locked on it so i can have root and twrp
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N9600 will work on vz too. I had the hk snap s8+. Worked well.
suzook said:
N9600 will work on vz too. I had the hk snap s8+. Worked well.
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There have been alot of questions lately on whether the n9600 would work on verizon!.
You should make a post on this so everyone can see, would be very useful
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force70 said:
There have been alot of questions lately on whether the n9600 would work on verizon!.
You should make a post on this so everyone can see, would be very useful
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Has the same bands as hk s8+ does. No reason it shouldn't work. I was even able to get volte working on it, once I got it rooted.
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Has the same bands as hk s8+ does. No reason it shouldn't work. I was even able to get volte working on it, once I got it rooted.
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Agreed its just that people are looking to hear from someone that has had a HK snap device working on verizon.
Your the first person ive come across who has personal experience in this regard.
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Has the same bands as hk s8+ does. No reason it shouldn't work. I was even able to get volte working on it, once I got it rooted.
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You should open a thread on it for sure. I know with the S9 and S9+ they just had to flash the Puerto Rico firmware to get signal. I'm definitely trying it when the firmware is released. Maybe the shipping firmware will work out of the box this time though.
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You should open a thread on it for sure. I know with the S9 and S9+ they just had to flash the Puerto Rico firmware to get signal. I'm definitely trying it when the firmware is released. Maybe the shipping firmware will work out of the box this time though.
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I will once I receive the device. Gonna be atleast a week.
Howdy all, Suzook or anyone else got any updates in this topic?
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I will once I receive the device. Gonna be atleast a week.
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Any updates on compatibility? I'm dying here
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Any updates on compatibility? I'm dying here
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It works fine on VZW, except no volte...Once root is established, we should be able to enable it. Unfortunately, there is zero dev support for this device.
suzook said:
It works fine on VZW, except no volte...Once root is established, we should be able to enable it. Unfortunately, there is zero dev support for this device.
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That's what I'm seeing. All that's needed for root is twrp correct?
Guess I'll be waiting a bit longer need a rooted phone. Thanks for the update.
I am posting a guide on how to add any CSC pack to the dual sim Note 9 N960FD. I went from OXM singtel to XAA Tmobile.
HERE is the guide, I got to 10 post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/note-9-n960fd-dual-sim-csc-change-oxm-t3841000