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Hi guys
My Mi5s is two years old, so, i've started to look for a new device, first, i thought about Poco F1 coz its a good phone and relative cheap, then mi9 dropped significantly its price, it was above $500 when its launched and now, we can find this piece of tech for about $359.
So, when i was willing to buy, i saw two new phones which got my attention, k20 pro ($379) and Lenovo Z6 pro ($389).
Lenovo is the best in specs and battery life
Poco is one year old, but still great and also cheaper of all of them
Mi9 is the 2nd best 2019 phone yet (OnePlus 7 is the best)
K20 pro is a kind of improvement of Mi9 (like Mi9s).
These are my opinion, what about your? could u help me to choice a new phone?
Cheers
I wouldn't post a question like this on a Mi9 forum...
My option would be, Mi9! Surprise!!
Just buy what you think is best for you, and stay offline for the next 2 years, you will always have a better option a few months later.
d.terenzzo said:
Hi guys
My Mi5s is two years old, so, i've started to look for a new device, first, i thought about Poco F1 coz its a good phone and relative cheap, then mi9 dropped significantly its price, it was above $500 when its launched and now, we can find this piece of tech for about $359.
So, when i was willing to buy, i saw two new phones which got my attention, k20 pro ($379) and Lenovo Z6 pro ($389).
Lenovo is the best in specs and battery life
Poco is one year old, but still great and also cheaper of all of them
Mi9 is the 2nd best 2019 phone yet (OnePlus 7 is the best)
K20 pro is a kind of improvement of Mi9 (like Mi9s).
These are my opinion, what about your? could u help me to choice a new phone?
Cheers
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K20 pro is not an improvement . It stands between mi9 and mi9 SE , same processor than mi9 , worst cameras
Nope mi9 is superior than k20 pro in many things
Sent from my Mi 9 using Tapatalk
Perfectdevil said:
Nope mi9 is superior than k20 pro in many things
Sent from my Mi 9 using Tapatalk
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Could u point out those main diff between them?
DMart9406 said:
K20 pro is not an improvement . It stands between mi9 and mi9 SE , same processor than mi9 , worst cameras
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According to the specs, cameras are the same, Sony IMX 586 sensor, aperture and size.
d.terenzzo said:
Could u point out those main diff between them?
According to the specs, cameras are the same, Sony IMX 586 sensor, aperture and size.
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to summerize :
Redmi K20 Pro:
• Notch-less display
• 3.5mm audio port
• Larger battery
Xiaomi Mi 9:
• Newer Gorilla Glass screen protection
• Higher telephoto and ultrawide camera resolution with wider apertures
• IR blaster
• Wireless charging support
• HDR10
Why ask a specific phone forum? You will get biased answers.
Even if those who say Mi9 are right hehe
Perfectdevil said:
to summerize :
Redmi K20 Pro:
• Notch-less display
• 3.5mm audio port
• Larger battery
Xiaomi Mi 9:
• Newer Gorilla Glass screen protection
• Higher telephoto and ultrawide camera resolution with wider apertures
• IR blaster
• Wireless charging support
• HDR10
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also b28 lte band in favor for mi9 which makes a big diff in my city!
btw, if they have same processor and theoretically same modem (x24), why do they not have the same bands? its software (firmware) or hardware problem?
Hi guys,
1) I'm able to buy the Mi 9 or the Mi 9T Pro for about the same price. Which one should I choose if I value camera quality?
2) Does Gcam work on them both?
Overall and with more features (cause camera is about the same) go for Mi9.
If you dont like the waterdrop notch go for Mi9T Pro...
But in my opinion Mi9 have wireless charging, ir blaster - future proof.
...the good about Mi9T pro is higher battery and back design is more appealing to the eye, but more thicker than mi9.
Wireless charging and ir universal remote are very useful for me. Plus the Mi 9 is thinner and lighter. So I went for the Mi 9.
But K20 Pro has a bigger battery and a headphone jack, so...
The other thing is I'm not a fan of the popup camera. When my phone is on the desk by my side, I prefer unlocking with face unlock, which instant on Mi 9.
But you can't go wrong with either.
Hi there!
Apologies if this is not the right place to post this.
What do people think of the two devices? I'm curious to hear if there are people who switched from OP to Mi devices or the other way around and why.
Cheers!
achalgurnani said:
Hi there!
Apologies if this is not the right place to post this.
What do people think of the two devices? I'm curious to hear if there are people who switched from OP to Mi devices or the other way around and why.
Cheers!
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I had Xiaomi 4 years ago and since then I have been on oneplus 5t, 6t and 7 pro all the time and I really wanted to have a 9 pro but as I saw the price and the fact that these cameras, apart from good marketing, do not offer anything great, I was looking for an alternative and it was mi 11 ultra. I ordered from china and the 8gb / 256 version came out cheaper for me than the op 9 pro. Chinese rom, but it will easily flash a European one after the premiere.
For me, the advantages of oneplus are:
-minimally better screen
-oxygen os
and that's all
Xiaomi:
- the best (apparently) camera on the market
-innovative appearance
-second screen (I hope it will be useful)
Thanks for sharing. The Mi 11 Ultra does look quite good even if it is a bit heavier. I think OP9Pro wins on the looks, or at least the hand feel department.
The 2nd screen is cool, but I didn't find anything in the settings when I was playing around with it in the store. So I couldn't figure out the customization and the interaction of it. It does react to touch for sure, but it was kind of useless in that situation where no notifications were coming in etc.
Wrong thread . Delete my post please.
kuba319 said:
I had Xiaomi 4 years ago and since then I have been on oneplus 5t, 6t and 7 pro all the time and I really wanted to have a 9 pro but as I saw the price and the fact that these cameras, apart from good marketing, do not offer anything great, I was looking for an alternative and it was mi 11 ultra. I ordered from china and the 8gb / 256 version came out cheaper for me than the op 9 pro. Chinese rom, but it will easily flash a European one after the premiere.
For me, the advantages of oneplus are:
-minimally better screen
-oxygen os
and that's all
Xiaomi:
- the best (apparently) camera on the market
-innovative appearance
-second screen (I hope it will be useful)
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even the screen is brighter on the Mi11 ultra.
for me its a no brainer, Mi 11 ultra all the way!
OP9PRO can be compared to mi 11 pro, not ultra, and still lose
OnePlus 9 Pro's advantages:
Samsung LTPO AMOLED panel - more power efficient
Smaller, tidier and more discreet looking camera bump
Superior Ultrawide Angle lens in terms of image quality - Uses the newer and bigger 1/1.56", 1.0µm IMX766 vs Xiaomi's 1/2" 0.8µm IM586
Lighter - 197g vs 234g
Current local availability with trade-ins
Cleaner and default bloatfree OS
Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra's advantages:
Brighter screen - max 1700nits
Slightly more responsive screen - up to 480hz touch sampling rate, good for gaming
Largest mains sensor on a phone since the Nokia 808 - Most reviews still pending but it's looking promising
Zoom is miles ahead in both videos and photo capture - 5x optical with a bigger sensor
Can record 1080p 60FPS on front camera and 8k on all rear sensors
Bigger battery
67w wired + 67w wireless charging that charges equally as fast due to new battery technology
Gorilla Glass Victus front as opposed to GG5 on the OnePlus
Ceramic rear back - Defintely feels and looks more premium than glass or plastic imo
IR blaster if needed
Secondary screen depending on your use cases - Notifications, clock, answer/reject incoming phone calls, personalized logos/images to show off from your gallery
WiFi 6e support - nice to have future-wise
Cheaper/identical pricing - 12GB RAM / 256GB onboard storage costs less than OnePlus' 12GB RAM / 256GB storage offering (at least from what I've seen so far)
Bottom line: I'd recommend the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra easily!
Came across your thread and wanted to share my opinion.
I bought the OnePlus 9 Pro on launch day and ended up returning it.
The North American variant of the OnePlus 9 Pro is seriously lacking compared to its variants in other markets. It doesn't come with Dual-SIM capability which was a big selling feature for me personally. The screen is nice but didn't blow me away.
Mi 11 Ultra on the other hand has 1 of the best displays in the market currently in terms of quality/resolution/brightness.
I have had the OnePlus 5T since launch and it has served me well till now. The only downside of getting the Mi 11 Ultra in North America is that we may not get full 5G support. Even the global variant doesn't have most of the 5G bands used in US/Canada.
Does anybody know if Google Pay will work with either the Chinese ROM/EU ROM? The last xiaomi phone I had was the Redmi Note 4.
I doubt it will on the Chinese but it will on the already released fastboot EU ROM. And of course, when it's released globally, it will be on the native global ROM, so you could flash that too.
Google Pay was working for me on Chinese Ron in Mi10 Ultra, so I don't think there should be an issue with Mi11 Ultra.
Google pay is working on Chinese Mi11 Ultra
jirka607 said:
Google pay is working on Chinese Mi11 Ultra
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Thanks!
Hello everyone,
I am trying to decide between Mi10 Ultra and Mi11 Ultra
I like Mi11 Ultra but there are 2 features missing which were on Mi10 Ultra.
The 2x telephoto and 120W charging were both really important to me. Mi11 Ultra got rid of both. Both have 5x telephoto which is great. But Mi11 Ultra 2x digital zoom is not as good as 2x optical lens on Mi10 Ultra. And charging is slower on Mi11 Ultra. I am the kind of person who travels a lot and need to charge as fast as possible in 10-15 min. 120W on Mi10 Ultra sounds better and would be a lot faster than 67W.
The rest of the features seems the same to me, I don't see that much difference between MIUI and both have IR blaster. Should I buy Mi10 Ultra or Mi11 Ultra?
Sounds like you did your homework and like the Mi10 Ultra! Not aware of any other big differences...
I think Mi 11 Ultra have a little better stereo speaker, and also added IP68, I like also that GN2 sensor in night photos. And battery is little bigger in Mi 11 Ultra, 5000mAh vs 4500mAh. But if your priority is charging time, and 2x optical zoom, I think you know the answer
I'm hoping someone can post a camera comparison sample of 10U at optical 2x vs 11U at digital 2x.
If anyone can post some 1x, 2x, and 5x zoom samples from Mi11 Ultra, I would really appreciate it.
If Mi11 Ultra digital zoom at 2x is better than 10 Ultra optical 2x zoom, I will probably go for 11.
Droidbullet said:
I'm hoping someone can post a camera comparison sample of 10U at optical 2x vs 11U at digital 2x.
If anyone can post some 1x, 2x, and 5x zoom samples from Mi11 Ultra, I would really appreciate it.
If Mi11 Ultra digital zoom at 2x is better than 10 Ultra optical 2x zoom, I will probably go for 11.
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I've uploaded tons of 1x and 2x shots recently here so I hope you'll find it useful: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/initial-impressions-photo-samples-cn-rom-48hrs-in.4263469/
Bottom line is that I'm very impressed (I had high expectations).
kyero985 said:
I've uploaded tons of 1x and 2x shots recently here so I hope you'll find it useful: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/initial-impressions-photo-samples-cn-rom-48hrs-in.4263469/
Bottom line is that I'm very impressed (I had high expectations).
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That is amazing. That 2x looks too sharp to be digital zoom, is it hybrid zoom?
Also, does the telephoto 5x zoom work on 4k/30 and 4k/60?
Well researched beforehand I had the 10 Ultra and now the 11 Ultra, both are very nice phones and have their strengths and weaknesses...
For my personal preferences the 11 Ultra is superior, although its a close call. For me the B20 support was crucial.
Mi11 Ultra vs Mi10 Ultra from a11 Ultra perspective:
+11U: larger and better screen
+11U: slightly better sensors in some cameras
+11U: full band support (specifically B20)
-11U: larger device, I prefered the compactness of the 10Ultra
-11U: no intermediate zoom lens (2x/3x) - why o why Xiaomi did you not take the 2x from the 10U into the 11U?
-11U: more expensive
-11U: slower charging (although I don't miss that that much, 55W wireless is enough for me)
My current phone is Samsung Galaxy S10+.
I really like its 2K AMOLED screen, stereo audio, UI and the cameras.
My main focus is photography and videos (mainly with rear camera) and I get mad that I can't take a good astrophotography and I don't have a fully compatible GCam (My only cons.).
What do you guys say abaout an upgrade to Xiaomi Mi 11?
It will worth sell my S10+ to buy it?
PS: My budget can't afford Galaxy S21 Ultra or Mi 11 Ultra.
Thanks bros!
Stay safe!
These smartphones don't have enough light gathering capability for good astrophotography.
At this time my prime choice is still the Note 10+ running on Pie.
No Q or 11 scope storage or other cpu cycle robbing security bs.
The Note 20U be my next choice.
Both Android and Samsung have been playing the wicked game of drop the ball.
Nobody is the winner is when playing that game
blackhawk said:
These smartphones don't have enough light gathering capability for good astrophotography.
At this time my prime choice is still the Note 10+ running on Pie.
No Q or 11 scope storage or other cpu cycle robbing security bs.
The Note 20U be my next choice.
Both Android and Samsung have been playing the wicked game of drop the ball.
Nobody is the winner is when playing that game
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I know we are talking about smartphones, not DSLR cameras.
Take a look at the picture attached. I got this one with my old Mi 9.
When I mean "astrophotography" is take picture like this for fun.
What I want to know is if I'll have a better photo/video package comparing to S10+
Ricardo Guariento said:
I know we are talking about smartphones, not DSLR cameras.
Take a look at the picture attached. I got this one with my old Mi 9.
When I mean "astrophotography" is take picture like this for fun.
What I want to know is if I'll have a better photo/video package comparing to S10+
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That's a damn fine shot
I'm surprised you could do that with any smartphone. Pro cams have more precision controls to easily dial it in.
I know what your saying but a 10 mm lense grabs only a fraction of the light that a 67 mm can. Size matters
Used cam bodies and lens can be had at reasonable prices if you look.
I coming from mi 9
It wasn't worth to upgrade to mi 11, in my opinion
The mi 11 ist better in low light, but the camera is slower , slower taking pictures or slow autofocus or wrong focus.
Since I own both of them, I would probably recommend the Galaxy S20FE over the Mi 11 if you are interested in pictures. The 3 lenses on the FE really give it an advantage over the Mi 11 in my opinion (especially with the 3x telephoto). I also prefer the software processing on the FE over what you get with the Mi 11. However you can use Google Photos editor to adjust color and dynamic range on the Mi 11 photos to make them look as good as you get on the FE. The Mi 11 DOES capture more detail with the 108MP lens for sure.
xphyle1971 said:
Since I own both of them, I would probably recommend the Galaxy S20FE over the Mi 11 if you are interested in pictures. The 3 lenses on the FE really give it an advantage over the Mi 11 in my opinion (especially with the 3x telephoto). I also prefer the software processing on the FE over what you get with the Mi 11. However you can use Google Photos editor to adjust color and dynamic range on the Mi 11 photos to make them look as good as you get on the FE. The Mi 11 DOES capture more detail with the 108MP lens for sure.
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I aimed for Mi 11 to keep the 2K AMOLED screen and stereo audio. I really appreciate these features.
I'm not the guy that take a picture and post it as it was taken, I always edit them in Adobe Lightroom.
I'd like to fell free to use GCam and its features without headache or limitations (My S10+ is Exynos).
Here with S10+ I make macro pictures using 2x zoom lens + macro lens I made myself.
Check the picture I attached
Ricardo Guariento said:
I aimed for Mi 11 to keep the 2K AMOLED screen and stereo audio. I really appreciate these features.
I'm not the guy that take a picture and post it as it was taken, I always edit them in Adobe Lightroom.
I'd like to fell free to use GCam and its features without headache or limitations (My S10+ is Exynos).
Here with S10+ I make macro pictures using 2x zoom lens + macro lens I made myself.
Check the picture I attached
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I see your'e really talented in mobile photography.
Currently I do own both Mi 11 and Mi 10 Pro. They do share same sized 1/1.33" sensors, but Mi 10 Pro has wider aperture of f1.69 (exif says f1.65) and Mi 11 has f1.85. Also Mi 10 Pro has 8P lens which helps with distortion and I do see some more details too.
I've attached my test image using same settings and Mi 10 Pro has clear advantage in gathering light vs Mi 11 (check picture - on top Mi 11, on bottom Mi 10 Pro (brighter). Mi 11 just has a little bit better processing and makes it just a bit quicker because of SD888. But SD865 is better optimised system at this moment. Also the processing of SD888 advantages does not matter then using gcam - there Mi 10 Pro has clear advantage. The slower aperture of mi 11's f1.85 could be possible better on daytime, but it's not the case.
My advice would be to go for Mi 10 Pro / Ultra if your'e interested in photography/ videography and especially in low light. Mi 11 Ultra is best, but it is pricey.
Mi 11 is overall very nice device to hold and use, I'm loving it. But not battery time - for me it's bad as it was with mi mix 3.
Some users suggested S20 FE with their 1/1.76" f1.8 sensor - if it's 5G version you get SD865 and imx555 - this is best regular bayer sensor for mobiles on android. No BS like on those "now ordinary" quad or nona bayer sensors with artifacts. I like how it performs. Made some test's with Mi 11 in comparision - in day time I prefer S20 FE's videos (photo's are great, but details of 27mpx wins slightly with mi 11). In low light Mi 11 has slight advantage of gathering more light / better noise control of bigger sensor (raw images). In some cases S20 FE wins, in more cases Mi 11. I hate Mi's default camera processing, so using only RAW images shot on pro mode or using GCAM. Then it has clear advantage over S20/S21 basic models (otherwise not - because of inconsistency).
Also good phone for astrophotography would be Vivo X60 Pro + - big sensor 1/1.31 and F1.57 aperture.