I am wondering about if the 27W charger have a huge difference compared to the 18W charger
it's not a big enough difference to waste money on IMO
Threre isn't huge difference
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I am wondering about if the 27W charger have a huge difference compared to the 18W charger
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well it depends , i bought it cause i always wanna max from the hardware.
The 27W charger charges my phone from 5 to 62% in 30mins and
5 to 93% in 1Hr.
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charged 18 to 100% in 1Hr 10mins.
While in Stock 18W charger it charges 5 to 46% in 30mins so difference isn't huge but yes there is difference. The full charge takes about 1Hr 35mins from 5to 100 with 18W.
So basically the last 7mins takes 15mins to charge even with 27W charger. Maybe some kernel tweaks will do better job
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well it depends , i bought it cause i always wanna max from the hardware.
The 27W charger charges my phone from 5 to 62% in 30mins and
5 to 93% in 1Hr.
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charged 18 to 100% in 1Hr 10mins.
While in Stock 18W charger it charges 5 to 46% in 30mins so difference isn't huge but yes there is difference. The full charge takes about 1Hr 35mins from 5to 100 with 18W.
So basically the last 7mins takes 15mins to charge even with 27W charger. Maybe some kernel tweaks will do better job
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That's normal and is the correct way to charge a battery safely and to prolong the battery. As the battery gets closer to full capacity the current should be dropped. Doing anything to force charging the battery quickly as it's close to full will, at best shorten the life of the battery, at worst it could cause the battery to explode.
Hello people I recently acquired my 11t pro and I know that the 120w charging, first it's amazing, but second it's kind of concerning to think that such a charging speed might not wear down the battery life even though Xiaomi claims 800 cycles and a bunch of certifications.
So I've decided to only use 120w on hasty situations or while traveling, etc. And I happen to have different xiaomi chargers.
The question is which do you think is the best wattage or charger to make battery life span longer 22.5w or 33w?
(wish I had the 67w from the 11t, but unfortunately I don't)
You're correct. Fast charging is poison for battery lifespan, of course the device makers love that because $. As low and slow as possible is the way to go, 18-25 W as a good trade off I would say. Some, including myself go even lower.
yeah,I haven't tested the 11t pro but with a redmi note 9 using a samsung note 9 charger it looked like the redmi wasn't getting any charge up. So that low is good?
i use 12/15w and its perfect !
Im charging mine with standard 5v 2A (its slow, but i thing battery will have better life down the line) since im planning to use my phone for 4-5 years minimum (last phone oneplus 2 was in use 6 years)
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i use 12/15w and its perfect !
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Doktor-X said:
Im charging mine with standard 5v 2A (its slow, but i thing battery will have better life down the line) since im planning to use my phone for 4-5 years minimum (last phone oneplus 2 was in use 6 years)
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How long does it take you to fully charge? Or what charging strategies do you use?
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How long does it take you to fully charge? Or what charging strategies do you use?
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75min aprox but i charge at night
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Today i charged from 17 to 100% in about 2h 10min using 10w (5v 2a) charger
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75min aprox but i charge at night
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Today i charged from 17 to 100% in about 2h 10min using 10w (5v 2a) charger
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Both options are good ideas for overnight charging. Will keep that in mind using a Samsung charger
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Both options are good ideas for overnight charging. Will keep that in mind using a Samsung charger
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Yes, you are right, when you are not in hurry i dont see reason not to use slower speed charging and then if you need speed use fast charger once in awhile
Well just as an addition I've tested several chargers with different wattages and these are the results in terms of time:
Samsung 10w - 2h:40min ±
Xiaomi 18w - 1h 30min ±
Xiaomi 22.5w - 1h 05min ±
Xiaomi 33w - 50 min ±
Xiaomi 120w 17 min at least for me.
Charging from around 10 to 100%
I am using Samsung 15W charger, around 2h to fully charge the phone.
I use a 33W charger from my K30 Pro Zoom. I charge from 20% remaining to 90% in 30 mins. Probably 45 mins if totally drained but never have to wait for an hour to fully charge. I only use 120W during business trips or Out of town.
By the way, your cord needs to match the type of Charger you are using or you'll just end up with a bottle neck charging.
I think the best option would be 65W, either mi charger or anker. Im currently using anker 65w charger, and oh my god, im getting a beautiful battery life of upto 8 hours sot on heavy usage. And by heavy usage i mean, streaming, maps.
With heavy games as well, its a bit lower. But charging with 120W affects the battery negatively. And i think it doesnt charge it completely even though it shows 100%.
Hi,
I'm thinking about buying Pixel 5A tomorrow as it will be selling for $399.
Can someone please tell me how time it takes to fully charge the phone with the in box charger?
Thanks.
moshezf said:
Hi,
I'm thinking about buying Pixel 5A tomorrow as it will be selling for $399.
Can someone please tell me how time it takes to fully charge the phone with the in box charger?
Thanks.
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Using the 18 watt charger, it charges to 42% in 30 min, 75% in 1 hour, and full charge in 100 minutes.
The battery is significantly bigger than even the Pixel 5, which I have, so if you aren't a heavy user (gaming, 4k recording, etc) the battery should easily last you all day.
Another datapoint, mine charged from about 25% to about 92% in one hour in the fast charge mode. It switched to adaptive charging when I set the alarm for the next day, but right before that it was estimating about 20 minutes more to reach 100%.
THROW YOUR 120W CHARGER AWAY.
Get a charger for around 65W.
Get a decently good brand. ( I'm using Anker, 65W Mi Charger is also good. )
Anything below 30W would be too slow to charge your phone. Not really practical.
Personally tested a 10W charger, did not work out for me as it doesn't give me the same battery performance.
In my opinion, Xiaomi played us on this one. The 120W charger is a marketing gimmick. I don't think it charges the phone to 100% even though it shows 100%. Either that, or it messes with the battery calibration. As soon as I charge with a 65W charger, the battery goes back to performing properly. By that I mean, lasts me the entire day, and I still have 35-40% remaining the next day on medium usage like maps, streaming. On heavy usage, it still gives me great battery.
I'm 100% sure, you will notice the difference if you switch away from 120W charger as it will drastically extend the battery.
If you have already experienced the difference or made the switch, please do share your experience. On the stock xiaomi charger provided with the phone, the battery life is really terrible, the same usage gets me barely to the end of the day.
If you're still not satisfied by the drastic difference made by the charger only.
You can further go ahead and follow this guide from @spiral5 as well:
How to increase the battery life of the Xiaomi 11T / T Pro
Hello guys, I want to tell you about the adjustments that I have made to my Xiaomi 11T Pro and that have improved battery consumption, keeping the refresh rate of the screen at 120Hz. I would appreciate if you could tell me how it went...
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It will be simply because it is a fast charger, incredibly fast, and you can't completely charge lithium batteries fast, there is always a slow end stage that will take an hour or more regardless of how many watts the charger is. The last top off stage, or saturation stage on lithium cells needs by definition to take time and will charge at a lower current and it has to be slower.
They are showing 100% on fast charging, but that's only the bulk charge capacity with a lot of the saturation stage not done, so you don't get full capacity. The 100% indicator is saying you've charged as much as you can fast, but it might only be 70% actually full. If it is left on the charger, it will likely wait until the temperature has dropped then continue for an hour or so completing the saturation charge, all while still indicating charging is complete, but if you remove it from the charger the moment it hits 100%, then it's not the same 100% you'd get by leaving for a couple of hours.
If they indicated 100% correctly as being as charged as it can be, it will take 20 minutes on fast charge plus an hour or two for the saturation stage to be done, so doesn't quite sell as well!
Xiaomi are cheating somewhat by saying 0 to 100% in x time on fast charge, as the definition of 100% when fast charging is changed.
Personally I just charge over night at 5 watt, better for the battery and you get full capacity.
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It will be simply because it is a fast charger, incredibly fast, and you can't completely charge lithium batteries fast, there is always a slow end stage that will take an hour or more regardless of how many watts the charger is. The last top off stage, or saturation stage on lithium cells needs by definition to take time and will charge at a lower current and it has to be slower.
They are showing 100% on fast charging, but that's only the bulk charge capacity with a lot of the saturation stage not done, so you don't get full capacity. The 100% indicator is saying you've charged as much as you can fast, but it might only be 70% actually full. If it is left on the charger, it will likely wait until the temperature has dropped then continue for an hour or so completing the saturation charge, all while still indicating charging is complete, but if you remove it from the charger the moment it hits 100%, then it's not the same 100% you'd get by leaving for a couple of hours.
If they indicated 100% correctly as being as charged as it can be, it will take 20 minutes on fast charge plus an hour or two for the saturation stage to be done, so doesn't quite sell as well!
Xiaomi are cheating somewhat by saying 0 to 100% in x time on fast charge, as the definition of 100% when fast charging is changed.
Personally I just charge over night at 5 watt, better for the battery and you get full capacity.
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Great insight, they should have mentioned it in a different way instead of saying it's 100% charged. But then that ain't gonna earn them any bucks.
Are you getting a good battery life on 5W? As when i was using the 10W charger and use the phone at the same time it would take forever to charge. And the battery sot wasn't as good as well compared to 65W sot for similar usage.
I also use 10w (5v 2A) and can get for about 8h of sot, charging time is in my case takes about 2:20h from 17-100%Its not that bad, and i prefere slow charging time anyway, i only use 120w when in hurry
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Great insight, they should have mentioned it in a different way instead of saying it's 100% charged. But then that ain't gonna earn them any bucks.
Are you getting a good battery life on 5W? As when i was using the 10W charger and use the phone at the same time it would take forever to charge. And the battery sot wasn't as good as well compared to 65W sot for similar usage.
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If you are using the phone at the same time as charging, you are of course using a chunk of that 5 watts to power the phone, so whilst your battery may not be discharging, there isn't much left over to charge it up.
I always charge overnight as I easily get a day if not a few days from a single charge as I'm not using it much currently as working from home, but if you need to top up during the day whilst still perhaps using it, you would need a charger with a bit more wattage.
Also note that whilst it may say 100% charged, that could represent anywhere from say 95% to 100% actual charge. This is because lithium cells can not be trickle charged, so when charging it will get to being a full capacity, then charging stops, the battery is allowed to discharge several percent before automatically being topped up again, and the cycle continues. So depending on where in that cycle you take the phone of charge, you might be really at 100%, but could equally be at 95%. Because people would complain if the true charge status was shown, i.e. people leave the phone on charge all night and its still only showing 95% in the morning simply because it's on the discharge stage of the discharge/top up cycle when they look at it, they would complain, so 100% is shown from say anywhere between 95% and 100% of real charge state. This applies to all devices. It is why sometimes you take your phone of charge at 100% and it seems to stay at 100% for some time, and other times it starts going down soon after you've unplug it from the charger. Google on their Pixels have an adaptive battery setting and use the alarm clock you've set to know when you are getting up, so they make sure they time that cycle so that you get the phone at a real 100% capacity.
Good thread fellas. Yeah 120w it's just a thing you should use when there's not another option or your in a real rush. And by using it your battery calibration might get confused.
It's as the OP mentioned, with 120w you can feel that your battery life is shorter than charging with lower wattages.
IMO and experience I calibrated my phone's battery (drained it to 0 let it turn off , leave it unattended for around 10 min, then charge it with a 10w while still turned off if possible. And leave it charging 1h more after it says 100%) and b ayer doing so my 11t pro finally became the 2-day phone it should have been from day one.
I personally prefer to charge mine with a 18w (1h20min) or a 22.5w (1h) during the day. 10w it's just for overnight, it's just to long 2h40min or more.
This might be the reason why Samsung nor Apple has not yet jump into bandwagon of 100w-ish charging. Even not to 65w. It just my hunch though. Still, 100w-ish charging might be life changing in certain situation. And if I recall correctly, the most ideal percentage to charge Li-On is around 80-ish, that might the actual percentage that we get if we charge to 100% with 100w-ish charger.
To be honest i tried 33w charger and 120w charger and battery performance for me is the same(4.5sot + 6 background yt music)
The thing is when u use 120W charger and battery go 100% you have to let it charge 5-10 min more because is not fully charged.
You can check with app called ampere(download from playstore)
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To be honest i tried 33w charger and 120w charger and battery performance for me is the same(4.5sot + 6 background yt music)
The thing is when u use 120W charger and battery go 100% you have to let it charge 5-10 min more because is not fully charged.
You can check with app called ampere(download from playstore)
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Please try a 65W charger from xiaomi or anker, i guarantee you the difference. Sot also depends on the usage, but there will surely be a drastic increase in the battery capacity.
And i completely agree to your point on trickle charging. But unfortunately, it does not justify the 4 hrs sot difference im getting after charging my phone through different chargers. 65W gives me 8 hours, whereas 120W full charge gives me around 4 hours.
I feel xiaomi really just did this as a marketing gimmick and did a half hazard job at it.
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If you are using the phone at the same time as charging, you are of course using a chunk of that 5 watts to power the phone, so whilst your battery may not be discharging, there isn't much left over to charge it up.
I always charge overnight as I easily get a day if not a few days from a single charge as I'm not using it much currently as working from home, but if you need to top up during the day whilst still perhaps using it, you would need a charger with a bit more wattage.
Also note that whilst it may say 100% charged, that could represent anywhere from say 95% to 100% actual charge. This is because lithium cells can not be trickle charged, so when charging it will get to being a full capacity, then charging stops, the battery is allowed to discharge several percent before automatically being topped up again, and the cycle continues. So depending on where in that cycle you take the phone of charge, you might be really at 100%, but could equally be at 95%. Because people would complain if the true charge status was shown, i.e. people leave the phone on charge all night and its still only showing 95% in the morning simply because it's on the discharge stage of the discharge/top up cycle when they look at it, they would complain, so 100% is shown from say anywhere between 95% and 100% of real charge state. This applies to all devices. It is why sometimes you take your phone of charge at 100% and it seems to stay at 100% for some time, and other times it starts going down soon after you've unplug it from the charger. Google on their Pixels have an adaptive battery setting and use the alarm clock you've set to know when you are getting up, so they make sure they time that cycle so that you get the phone at a real 100% capacity.
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Like i previously mentioned as well in the above post, trickle charging or that 5-10% of charge shouldnt make the difference im experiencing after switching chargers. 4 hours sot difference is no joke. Its literally half battery capacity.
I love the phone, but Xiaomi really messed around with us on this.
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Please try a 65W charger from xiaomi or anker, i guarantee you the difference. Sot also depends on the usage, but there will surely be a drastic increase in the battery capacity.
And i completely agree to your point on trickle charging. But unfortunately, it does not justify the 4 hrs sot difference im getting after charging my phone through different chargers. 65W gives me 8 hours, whereas 120W full charge gives me around 4 hours.
I feel xiaomi really just did this as a marketing gimmick and did a half hazard job at it.
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Unfortunately i don't have a 65w charger :/
I get 4.5 sot because i also use yt music for 6-7 hours in background + 5g all dhe time.
The problem i noticed is that when i use my phone after charging my battery gives me good sot (5 hour non stop gaming mlbb and still have 25% left). But if i charge at night and use the phone the next day the battery drain really fast (that's why i charge every morning before i leave home).
I'm not really happy with battery life to be honest but im really happy with charging speed
+ How you guys get sot 8hrs?. I never couldn't do that with my phones( old device k20 pro average 5hrs sot)
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Unfortunately i don't have a 65w charger :/
I get 4.5 sot because i also use yt music for 6-7 hours in background + 5g all dhe time.
The problem i noticed is that when i use my phone after charging my battery gives me good sot (5 hour non stop gaming mlbb and still have 25% left). But if i charge at night and use the phone the next day the battery drain really fast (that's why i charge every morning before i leave home).
I'm not really happy with battery life to be honest but im really happy with charging speed
+ How you guys get sot 8hrs?. I never couldn't do that with my phones( old device k20 pro average 5hrs sot)
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Even after switching away from 120W charger, if you're not seeing a drastic difference, then i recommend changing the chargers to something similar to what i own (anker) about 65W or a mi charger 65W (official). Because i personally experienced the huge battery life change, and i know this phone can give a 1.5 day battery life on medium usage. On heavy usage it lasts me easily the entire day (8hours sot easy). But usage may vary. And when i was using 120W charger, it was giving me 4hours sot, with the same usage. So i know, the phone has the capacity to do it.
Maybe it could be a non branded charger issue? I'm not sure. It should show quick charging when charging via the different charger as well that way you know its getting the juice it requires.
Rocking a Xiaomi 67W charger and so far not much difference. I'm using the phone out of the box, I am not switching back to 60hz since whats the point of buying it if you wont use 120hz. Lets see after a few more cycles.
EDIT: After using this 67W for 2 days now, battery life is the same. IT might not be the charger but going back to 60 Hz might be the reason some ppl had improved battery life. I will return back to 120W since I prefer the ultra fast charging while the phone stays cool at the same time (mine is at 40-41 degrees C and it charges around 20 minutes)
EDIT 2: Tried 60hz for a day, since I was out with family, it noticeably improved battery life even though I charged with the 120W adapter. Hopefully Xiaomi adds a dynamicswitch feature for us soon or a 90hz option
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Rocking a Xiaomi 67W charger and so far not much difference. I'm using the phone out of the box, I am not switching back to 60hz since whats the point of buying it if you wont use 120hz. Lets see after a few more cycles.
EDIT: After using this 67W for 2 days now, battery life is the same. IT might not be the charger but going back to 60 Hz might be the reason some ppl had improved battery life. I will return back to 120W since I prefer the ultra fast charging while the phone stays cool at the same time (mine is at 40-41 degrees C and it charges around 20 minutes)
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I tried using my phone on 120hz for a day or two, i get like an hour less compared to 60hz i find a major difference in battery even with 120hz enabled.
Not sure why. But if it works, it works.
Also just to clear my experience, i never use this phone on 120hz, even when i initially was using the 120w charger. It has always been set to 60hz for me, as i like to save battery wherever i can.
Update: Using accubattery, when my phone reached 100%, its still taking in current around 1500-2000mah range (around 10-15w) and its trickle charging the battery. The estimated capacity when reaching 100% is around 2200 mah(times 2 since our phone is a dual cell battery) then letting it trickle charge for a few minutes (an extra 10) made the capacity to 2550(which is around 5100 mah) and by doing so I am easily getting 6-7 hr sot on 120HZ. It may be a marketing trick to reach 100% in an instant but leave it plugged in for an extra 10 mins or so to get more screen on time.
quite great battery life
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Update: Using accubattery, when my phone reached 100%, its still taking in current around 1500-2000mah range (around 10-15w) and its trickle charging the battery. The estimated capacity when reaching 100% is around 2200 mah(times 2 since our phone is a dual cell battery) then letting it trickle charge for a few minutes (an extra 10) made the capacity to 2550(which is around 5100 mah) and by doing so I am easily getting 6-7 hr sot on 120HZ. It may be a marketing trick to reach 100% in an instant but leave it plugged in for an extra 10 mins or so to get more screen on time.
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Don't trust the apps. Find some real volt meter.
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Amazing!
MIUI 13 by any chance?
I am on miui 13 official, had heavy battery drain on miui12.5, disabled miui optimizations and now everything is good
Edit: apparently the program that handles battery changed after disabling miui optimizations, maybe it's a bug related issue
Whatat is the best way to charge 11T pro, from 10% to 100% or during the days a couple times , charge to 60% , charge to 80% depends how much time you have to prepare when you go outside??
You want to keep the battery as close to 50% as possible. The general rule of thumb is to keep your charge between 80% and 20%.
I read somwere that this our charger and charger of 62 wat difrently charges battery, this 120wat charge it so fast that the battery dont have time to fully charged but with 62 wat charger it takes a litlle longer and battery can least more than a day, its a very big diference adn people on Reddit confirming that ..
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Whatat is the best way to charge 11T pro, from 10% to 100% or during the days a couple times , charge to 60% , charge to 80% depends how much time you have to prepare when you go outside??
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I don't know and I don't care. You're still replacing it in a couple of years so why bother?
Performing the test with a 20w charger and the 120w charger, the battery time estimate is more or less the same but after similar use ,the use time with a 120w lasts less than that of the 20w.
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Performing the test with a 20w charger and the 120w charger, the [COLOR=#AA0000FF]battery[/COLOR] time estimate is more or less the same but after similar use ,the use time with a 120w lasts less than that of the 20w.
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I don't think that the "estimated" time will change after 1-2 charges. I think it takes into account many previous charges. (that I guess you did with 120W)
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I don't think that the "estimated" time will change after 1-2 charges. I think it takes into account many previous charges. (that I guess you did with 120W)
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Absolutely not, it is obvious that for physical reasons, the 120w charger remains a charger for people in a hurry and that the best charge for this type of battery remains the low and long charge.
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Absolutely not, it is obvious that for physical reasons, the 120w charger remains a charger for people in a hurry and that the best charge for this type of battery remains the low and long charge.
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I wouldn't be so sure my friend.
In Another Samsung phone with removable , I have a really old battery that lasts like an hour or two and a brand new original that lasts 36 hours.
When I had used the good battery (and get an estimated remaining time of let's say 28h) when I switch to the old battery the E.R.T. is still 20+ hours. Nevertheless it runs out in a couple of hours.
Same with cars and consumption.