Every year there is the debate of whether to upgrade or not. On the positives, you'll get a bigger screen, faster processor, 4-6 GB more RAM, more camera options, slightly bigger battery and sleeker design. However, you'd be giving up the headphone jack, have to deal with the punch hole camera, and potentially having more accidental screen presses with the all screen design.
Given the aggressive discounts, it still might be worth it for some. Will you be upgrading?
Absolutely getting it. I'll be paying for a device anyway, may as well be the latest
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absolutely freaking not. its too gimmicky for me
Yea, preordered it. 600 in trade 250 in Samsung dollars plus cashed in rewards. Looking at 260 shipped to my door. I can easily sell it for more than my note 9 unlocked.
Ordered 10+ 512 black unlocked.
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To many features of the 9 were dropped like the heart rate sensor that I use daily so for me the 10+ would be a major downgrade from my note9 512gb.
Plus the hole punch would drive me nuts.
No. It's literally a S10+ with a stylus and removed a feature. The headphone jack.
If there was a trade-in option like in the USA then I would consider, but in Sweden there are no good incentives and it's quite expensive for such a small upgrade. Maybe later if they will have some good deals for Blackfriday or christmas.
The hole in the screen is a deal breaker for me. I'm keeping my Note 9.
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The hole in the screen is a deal breaker for me. I'm keeping my Note 9.
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The same by me,keep the Note 9,maybe there are good customroms in the future,but not before update to Android 10.......at the moment i dont see a reason to change anything;the Note 9 is running nearly perfect....love it!
Yes! But for the first time I'll lose features, in order of personal importance: force touch button, headphone jack, hearth rate sensor.
Let's just call the Note 10 "Note10e".
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Yes! But for the first time I'll lose features, in order of personal importance: force touch button, headphone jack, hearth rate sensor.
Let's just call the Note 10 "Note10e".
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Most does not mention it nor care, but the iris scanner is also no more.
Not enough for me to upgrade, the freaking punch hole and the lack of a headphone jack and the heart rate sensor I used to upgrade my devices almost every year or year and a half, smartphones tech has evolved so much that I can't really see the need to upgrade so often..
Today, I had a chance to check out the Note 10 and Plus models at Best Buy. After checking it out for about 15 minutes, it felt like a purely cosmetic upgrade. Yes, it looks more sleek than the Note 9, especially in the Aura Blue color, but the reality is it ends up in a case anyways which adds bulk to the bezels. The hole punch was nearly invisible using night mode. The power button on the left is where one's index finger rests, so that change likely won't be an issue. Once the wow factor of the huge screen wore off, you realize that Samsung is basically using the same formula as the Note 9 and S10 series. Sure, it's a bit faster with the SD 855, EFS 3.0, and 12 GB RAM, but do they make a real world difference? Not really. I have a OnePlus 7 Pro as well, and the 90 Hz display combined with smoother software experience give the Note 10+ serious competition.
With 5G so sparsely available and carriers still figuring out what bands to use, I'd say the 5G model is premature. Even when 5G gains steam in 2020/2021, it's likely that the X50 modem will pale in comparison to the performance and versatility of upcoming 5G modems. As for the smaller Note 10, I can see it being popular with those coming from an S7 or S8. It is very comfortable to hold and offers good specs, though it will need to come down in price to compete with the S10/S10+.
The best summary of the situation mentioned is that the Note 9 was a phone that offered everything with no compromises. The Note 10+ offers extreme specs and gimmicky features, but gives up basics that Note 8 and Note 9 users appreciated. It is a very good looking phone with great performance, but not worth paying such a hefty price after one year with the expensive Note 9. Don't be shocked if this is deeply discounted for the holidays.
No headphone jack for a $100 more and not even a damn dongle or a 45 w charger in the box. Never paying more for less. Samsung is going the direction of apple's after mocking them for years for the same things they're doing right now. They've even removed their mocking videos from everywhere. Now, even the price is the same. Claiming that they removed the headphone jack to have space for the spen and a bigger battery. Turned out the bigger battery is only 300 mAh extra and the pen is the same size as ever. Asus managed to put a 5000 mAh battery in a phone WITH a headphone jack and two USB-C ports. Samsung is starting to cut corners to save some money on production and make more of it on sales since the phone market is basically saturated. They're freaking out because they're not selling as many phones as they used to. If they keep going on this direction, this note 9 will be the last phone I get from them even though this has been my decision even before the note 10, but now I won't even consider them.
Well for those that can afford to pay full price for a device then trade said device in I'm sure getting the 10 is a good deal. It would end up costing what a decent mid range device cost. But for most of us we are on contract..lol. For me I could care less about on screen finger print. Some will say well I don't have to pick up phone to unlock it now. Have we become so lazy that picking up your phone is that hard. For me and this is just me, I don't think the 10 is much of an upgrade. Yeah I have 2 upgrades just sitting and waiting to be used at At&t but I don't think I will waste them on the 10 when the 9 is great..sucky camera but still a power house. Don't care about the gimmicky pen gestures I'm not a blogger and most average user will not use it. I'm a simple man will never have to convert my off screen notes to word documents, what I have to say isn't that important [emoji1787]. But to each person it may be seen different. But for me it's not an upgrade. The 10 to me is a midrange device, the 10 plus is beautiful but it's just not enough to justify the price.
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Lol...I don't know maybe.
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Probably going back to a pixel phone... Tired of waiting for security updates and main updates....
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Lol...I don't know maybe.
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You WILL buy both the note 10 and the plus and that's a promise. You have every note that's ever existed, Butchie. [emoji23]
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Lol...I don't know maybe.
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I will see you in the Note 10 Forums lol.
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Nop, first cuz updates....J7 pro 2017 have lastes OneUI 1.1 and we dont? Wtf sammy?
Waiting for next huawei and than i go
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I really want the Note. Almost bought the 7 before I moved across the world, then all that happened. Been waiting and waiting.. but the fingerprint reader location and speaker quality is a no go for me..
Even if all they do in the note 9 is move the fingerprint reader to the front and improve the speakers then I probably want to wait for the 9.
Fingerprint reader to front
Better speaker(s)
Think the will?
S9 leaks are not giving me much hope.
No word about some things like camera and speakers yet but the fingerprint reader is just as bad as S8. Just as curved screen. Barely anything..
you want to wait 9 months?
thought the leaks put the scanner under the camera in the middle of the phonr?
They haven't done it yet, but who knows what might come in the future...at this point it's really just a guess. If those features are truly deal breakers then I guess the answer is to wait for now, but then again no guarantee they will be there in Note 9 either... at least as of now, as far as I know... . Note 8 is still a great phone imo, but features mean different things to different people of course.
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Really??:laugh: Do you want to wait for note 9? I think the next Galaxy Note can be Note X!
I recommend you to buy the note 8 now, and later when the note 9 is released, trade your old note 8 for the new one..
Oh, Note 8 is AWESOME, buy it NOW!!
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you want to wait 9 months?
thought the leaks put the scanner under the camera in the middle of the phonr?
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The leaks are for the S9 moving scanner to under the camera.
It's widely hoped/believed that Note 9 will have it in the display but nothing for sure yet.
I will wait for sure if the phone is a compromise in too many ways.
No need to spend money on something better in some ways and more difficult to use in others.
It should be all around better. Ideally...
Yes. You can sell used or trade in but the fact is still you spent $400-$500 that year for what?
I hate dumb dumb was threads
So much regret.
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Mate, you can wait for the Note 9, but when it comes out the rumours are the Note 10 will be absolutely kick-a$$.. Gonna wait again...
Technology moves so fast that if you wait for the next best thing you'll end up with nothing...
Any rumours you hear about the Note 9 are just that, rumours... Things change in the blink of an eye and so do the specs on the smart phones not yet released....
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Mate, you can wait for the Note 9, but when it comes out the rumours are the Note 10 will be absolutely kick-a$$.. Gonna wait again...
Technology moves so fast that if you wait for the next best thing you'll end up with nothing...
Any rumours you hear about the Note 9 are just that, rumours... Things change in the blink of an eye and so do the specs on the smart phones not yet released....
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There have been Zero leaks or rumors about the S10 or the Note 10.
I speak to a few parts insiders each month and there is not much new info.
It's not one of those.. the back fingerprint reader is terrible. The move back to front would be worth the wait of 9 more months.
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I hate dumb dumb was threads
So much regret.
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There is a good time to wait and a good time to buy. It's the intelligent, logical thing to do..
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you want to wait 9 months?
thought the leaks put the scanner under the camera in the middle of the phonr?
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That is for the s9. Hopefully the Note 9 will have it where the home button is.
Anyway, for the S9 it looks really similar to the S8, s8 Plus except the finger print scanner is set up slightly different in the back. Otherwise the phone basically looks just like the s8 and will have a newer processor. Otherwise looks like nothing much different on the s9 versus the Note 8. If you have a Note 8 I wouldn't upgrade to the s9. People with the s8 might hold off too.
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That is for the s9. Hopefully the Note 9 will have it where the home button is.
Anyway, for the S9 it looks really similar to the S8, s8 Plus except the finger print scanner is set up slightly different in the back. Otherwise the phone basically looks just like the s8 and will have a newer processor. Otherwise looks like nothing much different on the s9 versus the Note 8. If you have a Note 8 I wouldn't upgrade to the s9. People with the s8 might hold off too.
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If they don't even improve the speakers or add some form of dual speakers it really will just be a processor bump.
Not very compelling.
But if the Note 9 puts the scanner under the screen and improves the speakers that will be a very big change.
Just get a V30 and be happy. I got one for my girl and she loves it. The screen is great , speakers are alot better (quad dac also) and the buttons seem to be on a place you would like. I pretty much bet Samsung will never fix audio , and who knows where the fingerprint reader will be. Might as well be happy with your phone, not sure why you would want a phone that doesn't have what you want on it.
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There have been Zero leaks or rumors about the S10 or the Note 10.
I speak to a few parts insiders each month and there is not much new info.
It's not one of those.. the back fingerprint reader is terrible. The move back to front would be worth the wait of 9 more months.
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Its not moving back to the front.
meboy said:
There have been Zero leaks or rumors about the S10 or the Note 10.
I speak to a few parts insiders each month and there is not much new info.
It's not one of those.. the back fingerprint reader is terrible. The move back to front would be worth the wait of 9 more months.
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I don't think you get the point....
Every new phone will be awesome in the first week of release, then come the nitpicks.
You either bite the bullet at some time or will be window shopping from now to eternity, there is always gonna be a bigger better piece of hardware as tech doesn't (generally) de-evolve and there will always be something that will annoy...
That's the human condition, to never be satisfied for long...
Anyway, your choice....
If you wait for the Note 9 then you can wait for the Note 10 or 11.
Do what a normal person would do and buy them all.
This thread made me have another drink.
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Just get a V30 and be happy. I got one for my girl and she loves it. The screen is great , speakers are alot better (quad dac also) and the buttons seem to be on a place you would like. I pretty much bet Samsung will never fix audio , and who knows where the fingerprint reader will be. Might as well be happy with your phone, not sure why you would want a phone that doesn't have what you want on it.
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V30 is a great phone. Shocker from lg.
Just the screen issues, camera isn't quite right and I want the pen.
If it was 3t price it would help it a lot.
Was really hoping Huawei would nail the mate 10 but they messed it up big time with the too hot, too cold models. Their prices are always too high too.
When Samsung flagships starts to come down in price a few months after release it's hard to see the point in buying anything else.
Can get a note 8 for 720, V30 for 850, mate 10 pro for $850. I'll take the note..
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I don't think you get the point....
Every new phone will be awesome in the first week of release, then come the nitpicks.
You either bite the bullet at some time or will be window shopping from now to eternity, there is always gonna be a bigger better piece of hardware as tech doesn't (generally) de-evolve and there will always be something that will annoy...
That's the human condition, to never be satisfied for long...
Anyway, your choice....
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I don't think every new phone is awesome. Many aren't worth "upgrading".
So yeah. There is a good time and phone to buy. Keeping phones for 2-3 years is smart. Especially as we are hitting the 1k level. The cost of "upgrade"itus keeps getting higher.
Our phones have become too addictive. Many aren't being sensible.
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Its not moving back to the front.
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Might be right. I know they are looking into competing better with face id.
If they can improve it enough they might drop the fp reader alltogether.
I just heard that the Note 9 will not have the finger print scaner in the display? I know that this could be false. But looking at the S9 how is looks exactly like the S8 is horrible. They also say the Note9 will be smaller than the Note8. If this is the case I will be passing on the Note 9. I will not be pulled into what Apple has been doing for years. Make a different phone every year or I will pass!! I refuse to pay $900 dollars for the same phone. Just throwing this out there because what Samsung did with the S9 is sad. Sorry I put this in the wrong section
I'll be passing on the Note 9 regardless. I see no point in upgrading every year, especially how much phones costs now, changes are usually minimal. Same goes for Android versions. Everyone was so hyped about upgrading to Oreo from Nougat & for what? Plus being number "10" there should be many things worth waiting for, so I hope.
No matter what, I am going to wait for the note 10, for me, the note 8 is a really fine device, a real improvement over the note 7, which I also have, so, I will wait for the note 10
I had my Note 4 more than 3 years, I will not upgrade my Note 8 for the next 3 years for sure - hello "Note 11"
The display is at maximum already, increasing the resolution or making it brighter is pointless for me. CPU will be fine for the next 3 years. The camera is ok for a smartphone, I don't think they will/can increase the quality by a lot in the future - it's simply limited because of the physics. The only thing that will degrade in the future is the non-replaceable battery, too bad we can't replace it.
I will probably keep my Note 8 N950N for a while until it starts to fail. The only reason I uograded to the Note 8 is because I couldn't get any reception on my Note 4 N910C.
I'm about to snatch up a Note 4 in 2018!!! ?
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I'll be passing on the Note 9 regardless. I see no point in upgrading every year, especially how much phones costs now, changes are usually minimal. Same goes for Android versions. Everyone was so hyped about upgrading to Oreo from Nougat & for what? Plus being number "10" there should be many things worth waiting for, so I hope.
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You are 100% right with Oreo. I couldn't wait then I got it and it was nothing. Hope the Note9 looks different enough to put down almost a grand?
I too will pass on the Note9. But I'm worried that the Note10 will leave the 3.5mm jack.
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I too will pass on the Note9. But I'm worried that the Note10 will leave the 3.5mm jack.
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Bluetooth headphones are getting better and better unless you're that picky and want wires hanging from your ears. Honestly to me when I see people with wired headphones I think of people using cassette tapes. It's a old technology and soon it will be gone. But everyone has their own preference. Have you tried out some new Bluetooth headphones lately? If not give them a try it might change your mind.
Ya I've tried a few Sony WH-1000XM2, Sennheiser Momentum Wireless and AKG N60NC. Their okay. They're lacking in soundstage, separation, detailed mid-range (voices) and imaging. I still find that my 8 year old Shure SE535 bests those 3 wireless headphones by a lot. Though it is paired with a Oppo HA-2SE.
I have to admit that wires do get annoying especially when taking them out of your pocket. I'd gladly replace all my IEMs and headphones with one wireless that excels at those five categories. If anyone can recommend please do so.
Thanks
some of the newer "jack free" phones give you an adapter, so you can still plug in your wired headsets..I assume this will be the way most OEMS handle this for the next few years..
For the first time, I have fully settled into not upgrading.. From the leaks (I take them with a grain of salt), nothing exciting. And like others mentioned, the new features, really are these days, nothing that special. And then, we all know updates are poor terrible.. The only thing that kind of made me excited, was the talk of a larger battery..
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For the first time, I have fully settled into not upgrading.. From the leaks (I take them with a grain of salt), nothing exciting. And like others mentioned, the new features, really are these days, nothing that special. And then, we all know updates are poor terrible.. The only thing that kind of made me excited, was the talk of a larger battery..
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Agreed with this but I doubt the Note 9 Large Battery would solve any thing.
The S9 Plus has 3500 Mah Battery (200 More than the Note 8) and it lasts for 4 - 4:30 Hours of SOT at Max brightness , just as Much as the Note 8. People thought the S9 Plus would have better battery but It lasts just as much if not less. The screen PPI Consumed that 200 Mah.
Also The Note 9 Will have more PPI (Pixel Per Inch) Than the Note 8. I doubt any one would care, but the Battery life will be Also consumed through it.
So Don't expect much from the battery. Maybe 30 Minutes more than the Note 8 at its best.
Also Crown UX and S Pen features Will come to the Note 8 Through Android P.
There is barley any thing to talk about in The Note 9, No doubt it will be better than the Note 8 but like 10% , Not really worth it if you wait another year for the Note 10 or Android P.
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Bluetooth headphones are getting better and better unless you're that picky and want wires hanging from your ears. Honestly to me when I see people with wired headphones I think of people using cassette tapes. It's a old technology and soon it will be gone. But everyone has their own preference. Have you tried out some new Bluetooth headphones lately? If not give them a try it might change your mind.
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While wireless headphones are nice for a gym workout or a run around the block, without a dedicated connector, you can't charge your phone and listen to music with wired headphones at the same time. I have found that wireless headphones don't usually last through the many hours needed when traveling long distance ie. Intercontinental flights. A few hours of waiting at an airport prior to flight, plus add to that 7+ hours in-flight will not last most wireless headphones out there. You'll be without music way before you get there. This would not be a problem with a wired headset since you can charge phone in plane as you listen to music endlessly. Those of us who travel frequently know this rather well. Also, having to constantly recharge your wireless set can be a pain. I have run out of charge in the middle of a nice workout, something which would never happen with a wired headset.
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I'll upgrade if the Note 9 has a 6.5" screen. And the blood pressure monitor.
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I will also pass the Note 9 this year, i'm pretty sure the Note 10 next year will be the real upgrade for the Note 8, since it will be the 10th Anniversary for the Galaxy S line, so the Note 10 will get all that or even more.
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I will also pass the Note 9 this year, i'm pretty sure the Note 10 next year will be the real upgrade for the Note 8, since it will be the 10th Anniversary for the Galaxy S line, so the Note 10 will get all that or even more.
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This is what I'm hoping for, something special for the 10 year phones. Maybe they will use a revolutionary flat display!
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This is what I'm hoping for, something special for the 10 year phones. Maybe they will use a revolutionary flat display!
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Propably expect 4k screen finger print on display (or foldable Note phone that transforms into a tablrt
, now that would be terrific).
Thats more worth a grand than the Note 9
I really would not like a foldable screen, it will not be cristal, but a very scratch-prone plastic one!
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I really would not like a foldable screen, it will not be cristal, but a very scratch-prone plastic one!
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Yep. Especially first generation model.
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Note 9 has a lot of good things going for it . . . but a flagship?
Oreo instead of Pie?
No 5G?
Broadcom‘s new super accurate dual frequency GPS chip not part of the package? (Chip introduced almost a year ago and Xaomi’s already released the M8 with this chip)
Remember 2016? The Samsung A9 had a safe 5,000 mAh battery. Why can’t we put this in this note?
Feel free to add to this list of disappointments. Perhaps some of them will be fixed with the S 10?
Would a 5000mah battery in this years Note be a 'safe' marketing move? As a tech enthusiast I'd love to see it, however, I understand why they have played it safe, they need a couple of generations of solid performers without any hiccups before ramping back up. Imagine poor sales vs Note 7 repeat, they can't afford a repeat - I believe the Note would be a doomed product if it happened again.
The latest GPS chip: Samsung recently explained that a highly competitive high end market coupled with a difficulty in adding compelling new features led to poor sales of the S9 group. It's swings and roundabouts, on one hand you could throw everything into your latest and greatest devices, but next year?
Note 9 makes a safe and just about interesting enough entry, it gives Samsung breathing room for next years model. Even the presentation had mention of how difficult it is to come up with new features.
Note 10 - 4500/5000mah battery, 5G, New GPS chip + 1 or 2 more features, makes more sense for a '10' iteration than the '9'.
Technically the Note 8 can support the 1GB speeds. The Note 9 will as well.
https://phandroid.com/2017/09/08/att-gigabit-lte-galaxy-note-8/
5G is not a real tech yet, it's actually called 5G evolution which is a fast LTE which the Note supports.
https://www.computerworld.com/artic...ess/why-atts-5g-evolution-isnt-really-5g.html
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Technically the Note 8 can support the 1GB speeds. The Note 9 will as well.
https://phandroid.com/2017/09/08/att-gigabit-lte-galaxy-note-8/
5G is not a real tech yet, it's actually called 5G evolution which is a fast LTE which the Note supports.
https://www.computerworld.com/artic...ess/why-atts-5g-evolution-isnt-really-5g.html
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Personally I think the real challenge that Samsung Has is in the processor. Snapdragaon and Exynos have both seen decent improvments over the years but they don't hold a candle to what Apple has done with theirs. Not sure if they will ever win that battle, but I hope they can get closer.
I also believe that we are all going to be blown away by the S10 when it comes out. Samsung is putting ALL of the new HOT stuff they have been working on - INscreen Fingerprint scanner to name one - and I bet there will be bunch more!
I am getting the note 9, I just can't help myself - I am an addict when it comes to these devices - but I am really excited to see what is giong to happen when the S10 comes out.
You're getting too edgy with this. Pie was not relased during the development and 5g is still far away. Talking about the gps thing even my s7edge gets 4meter accuracy while driving what else do u need? An inch of accuracy!
The only things I wanted, and still hope come true . 1 )flat glass on the screen again, I mean it's a note right, easier to write on. 2) Alcantara case 3) dbrand grip case.
5g is way off, probably 2 generations before wide adoption. GPS has been great since Note 4 so not really seeing the need for that either.
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Would a 5000mah battery in this years Note be a 'safe' marketing move? As a tech enthusiast I'd love to see it, however, I understand why they have played it safe, they need a couple of generations of solid performers without any hiccups before ramping back up. Imagine poor sales vs Note 7 repeat, they can't afford a repeat - I believe the Note would be a doomed product if it happened again.
The latest GPS chip: Samsung recently explained that a highly competitive high end market coupled with a difficulty in adding compelling new features led to poor sales of the S9 group. It's swings and roundabouts, on one hand you could throw everything into your latest and greatest devices, but next year?
Note 9 makes a safe and just about interesting enough entry, it gives Samsung breathing room for next years model. Even the presentation had mention of how difficult it is to come up with new features.
Note 10 - 4500/5000mah battery, 5G, New GPS chip + 1 or 2 more features, makes more sense for a '10' iteration than the '9'.
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Very well said.
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Note 9 has a lot of good things going for it . . . but a flagship?
Oreo instead of Pie?
No 5G?
Broadcom‘s new super accurate dual frequency GPS chip not part of the package? (Chip introduced almost a year ago and Xaomi’s already released the M8 with this chip)
Remember 2016? The Samsung A9 had a safe 5,000 mAh battery. Why can’t we put this in this note?
Feel free to add to this list of disappointments. Perhaps some of them will be fixed with the S 10?
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Name one note that released with that years version of android.
Complaining about not being on the latest version of android (that was just released) while ignoring all the added samsung functionality is kind of a short sighted comparison..
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Would a 5000mah battery in this years Note be a 'safe' marketing move? As a tech enthusiast I'd love to see it, however, I understand why they have played it safe, they need a couple of generations of solid performers without any hiccups before ramping back up. Imagine poor sales vs Note 7 repeat, they can't afford a repeat - I believe the Note would be a doomed product if it happened again.
The latest GPS chip: Samsung recently explained that a highly competitive high end market coupled with a difficulty in adding compelling new features led to poor sales of the S9 group. It's swings and roundabouts, on one hand you could throw everything into your latest and greatest devices, but next year?
Note 9 makes a safe and just about interesting enough entry, it gives Samsung breathing room for next years model. Even the presentation had mention of how difficult it is to come up with new features.
Note 10 - 4500/5000mah battery, 5G, New GPS chip + 1 or 2 more features, makes more sense for a '10' iteration than the '9'.
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Alltaken123,
I would definitely hire you as a customer service rep for Samsung! You have a plausible explanation for the concerns mentioned and your words are very well spoken. Thank you.
Couple of points to consider…
On the GPS chip: anybody who has walked the streets of Tokyo using any current smartphone GPS knows the frustration when you walk around the block three times because reflected GPS signals keep causing the blue dot to jump 100’s of meters when you think you are at your destination. It would be great to have the accuracy and reflected signal rejection Broadcom’s new chip promises.
On the “in glass fingerprint recognition“ that feature is dubious when a phone has facial recognition & a great back side fingerprint scanner... but it’s something new to hype.
And now my favorite… Larger batteries and the direction the industry has moved towards. Your explanation of Samsung being extremely cautious makes perfect sense and is a likely driver for their decision. That’s said, Samsung’s A9 realeased in 2016 with a 5,000 mah battery had no issues. Because it had a mid tier CPU it truly delivered 2 days of heavy use.
I probably should put this one in a separate thread but here’s the short version of what’s going on with battery capacities: phone makers match their battery mah capacity to approximately one day’s worth of power consumption. Why? Because when you charge your phone every day you’ll end up wearing the battery out within two years. In the “old days with replaceable batteries“ you could extend the life of your phone a few years by changing the battery. Now with sealed-in batteries you are virtually compelled to buy a new $800 electronic monitoring bracelet every two years. Pretty slick from a business perspective. Before someone jumps in and tells me you can’t have a water resistant phone with a removable battery, let me share my experience with phones in the Japanese domestic market. Japanese have had replaceable batteries in many of their water resistant cell phones since the 1990s. All it takes is a good o-ring and a decent latch. Today, however, Japan is “mostly” onboard with the lucrative (albeit wasteful) sealed-in battery scheme.
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The only things I wanted, and still hope come true . 1 )flat glass on the screen again, I mean it's a note right, easier to write on. 2) Alcantara case 3) dbrand grip case.
5g is way off, probably 2 generations before wide adoption. GPS has been great since Note 4 so not really seeing the need for that either.
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5g evolution is already in many cities like dfw. And the note 8 supports it. Full 5g won’t be here anytime in the next couple of years.
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nuclearrage said:
The only things I wanted, and still hope come true . 1 )flat glass on the screen again, I mean it's a note right, easier to write on. 2) Alcantara case 3) dbrand grip case.
5g is way off, probably 2 generations before wide adoption. GPS has been great since Note 4 so not really seeing the need for that either.
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+1 for the flat glass. I'm not buying any phone with the curved screen gimmick.
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+1 for the flat glass. I'm not buying any phone with the curved screen gimmick.
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Another +1 for USEABLE flat glass....and for recognizing the curve as an artsy gimmick. Narrow 2mm bezels are fine. After all the flesh of one’s hand covers anywhere from 2 to 4 mm of bezel/screen anyway.
Guess I'm the only person that actually likes the curved screen. Function over form is what I always go for.
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Guess I'm the only person that actually likes the curved screen. Function over form is what I always go for.
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Then why do you like the curved glass? It's absolutely not function over form...
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+1 for the flat glass. I'm not buying any phone with the curved screen gimmick.
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I feel exactly the opposite. The curve makes edge swipe gestures far more useful, and I have come to rely on them significantly.
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Not alone! To be honest I just like the way the curved glass looks... I always found it gave the phone a more premium feel. Given the choice I would still take curved over flat edges, even though I don't even use the Edge features. Purely an aesthetic preference for me, but others of course may have different tastes and requirements.
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Guess I'm the only person that actually likes the curved screen. Function over form is what I always go for.
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Sometimes the screen protector situation bothers me but Im all for curved glass. Looks sexy
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Then why do you like the curved glass? It's absolutely not function over form...
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I like the curved glass screen because of edge display and the edge features. Yes it can be a but annoying with accidental touches but the trade off is worth it for me.
As far as the screen protector issue, that has nothing to do with Samsung. All those screen protector makers are being cheap and stupid. They make full coverage ones with only adhesive on the sides, and they also make case friendly ones with full adhesive. Why the heck can they not make a full coverage one with full adhesive?! Seems very stupid to me that they are having such a hard time making a dang protector that handles both things.
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Another +1 for USEABLE flat glass....and for recognizing the curve as an artsy gimmick. Narrow 2mm bezels are fine. After all the flesh of one’s hand covers anywhere from 2 to 4 mm of bezel/screen anyway.
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It's only a gimmick if you don't find a use for it. I can think of a lot of people that classifies the SPen as a gimmick. I use the heck out of mine, at least I thought I did until I met a guy that has to replace the tip of his SPen every month! He hooked me up with 3 bags of tips a few months ago after I got my Note 8. I haven't even replaced the tip yet for my original one.
I come to rely Alot on the apps edge since I started using the s7 edge. It helps me switch apps much faster than using the recent button. Well we can have apps That do the same thing but the curve makes it very smooth and natural to use
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Note 9 has a lot of good things going for it . . . but a flagship?
Oreo instead of Pie?
No 5G?
Broadcom‘s new super accurate dual frequency GPS chip not part of the package? (Chip introduced almost a year ago and Xaomi’s already released the M8 with this chip)
Remember 2016? The Samsung A9 had a safe 5,000 mAh battery. Why can’t we put this in this note?
Feel free to add to this list of disappointments. Perhaps some of them will be fixed with the S 10?
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Excited for the Note 9. Pre-ordered the 512gb already.
What does Android P have that Samsung's Oreo does not have more of?
What's the point of hurriedly introducing 5G when the tech is not yet mature. That would make the Note 9 a beta phone which I'm glad it's not.
I agree with the missing GPS chip.
I also agree with a 5kmAh battery
Overall I'm very happy with the Note 9 and consider it a big upgrade over the Note 8.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Samsung galaxy note 20 ultra
Yes this is great phone i already using it great company
So far I have to say this phone is on its way to becoming the New GOAT. Build quality is stellar, i don't mind the camera bump, small sacrifice for a better shooter. Plus I always rest my finger against it. But that being said, it's pretty much the perfect phone IMO.
The display, the smoothness, the cameras. If I can get 6h + SOT on top of that it'll definitely become my GOAT Samsung phone. Dethroning the Note 7 who dethroned the Galaxy S4 Google play edition but I digress.
I don't see myself moving to another phone any time soon.
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Initial thoughts after final setup:
Going from a A20 ultra to a Note 20 ultra, I think this phone just looks and might even perform better. The feel in the hand, the fingerprint reader, everything seems to run smoother. I'm loving it so far.
My main concern is the battery life with heavy use. I've tweaked the settings a bit, so I guess I will have a better idea after a few days of use. But so far so good! :good:
I just received and configured my Note 20 Ultra. It's so similiar to Note 10+ but faster. Software looks almost the same. I already have 1 software update with security patch from 1st of August
edit: what is annoying is that pen is from the other side it's inconviniet if you are using right hand to operate and hold your phon in your left hand
It's an incredible phone. So much smaller than my first mobile phone 35 years ago. How far we have come since Palm first put a PDA and mobile into the same unit. Luv, Luv, Luv.
PS. The Beans are wonderful. So nice to not have a bud sticking into my ear canal.
PPS. Now I have to wait all over again for my Tab S7+.
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It's an incredible phone. So much smaller than my first mobile phone 35 years ago. How far we have come since Palm first put a PDA and mobile into the same unit. Luv, Luv, Luv.
PS. The Beans are wonderful. So nice to not have a bud sticking into my ear canal.
PPS. Now I have to wait all over again for my Tab S7+.
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Lol, I remember those. My first phone was a brick phone with a battery that lasted an hour if you were lucky, and a hand calculator sized screen. Times have changed indeed. It's amazing.
a Lefty's dream!
duchian said:
I just received and configured my Note 20 Ultra. It's so similiar to Note 10+ but faster. Software looks almost the same. I already have 1 software update with security patch from 1st of August
edit: what is annoying is that pen is from the other side it's inconviniet if you are using right hand to operate and hold your phon in your left hand
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I have waited on the Note series for a while. What finally took my commitment was finding out the s pen is on the left. As a lefty, this is the most convenient placement I can imagine.
Anticipate that the placement will change back to the right in the next iteration after feedback from rightys.
If the s-pen was on the right, it would be perfect. Fingerprint scanner is brilliant now, screen is unreal, battery life is phenomenal, speed is beyond belief... Perfection. Good luck topping this, Samsung
Love this phone! It's definitely my favorite phone ever. It just barely beats my love for the OnePlus 8 Pro. I like the form factor of this phone better with less display curves. Plus all the tons of software features. However the colors and brightness on the OnePlus 8 Pro are better.
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Love this phone! It's definitely my favorite phone ever. It just barely beats my love for the OnePlus 8 Pro. I like the form factor of this phone better with less display curves. Plus all the tons of software features. However the colors and brightness on the OnePlus 8 Pro are better.
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Can you elaborate further on the brightness? Everything I've read says the Note 20 Ultra has a brighter screen than the OnePlus 8 Pro, and the rated nits value is quite a bit higher. It might only go up to highest brightness in adaptive mode and being outside? IDK, but you're the first person I've seen say this.
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Can you elaborate further on the brightness? Everything I've read says the Note 20 Ultra has a brighter screen than the OnePlus 8 Pro, and the rated nits value is quite a bit higher. It might only go up to highest brightness in adaptive mode and being outside? IDK, but you're the first person I've seen say this.
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This is the best way I have of describing my N20U screen brightness.
On a no cloud sunny day, I can take my phone out and see the screen perfectly. No more having to turn to use my body for shade and my hand to see the screen.
I am 69 with mild Adult onset Macular Degeneration. This phone is fantastic for me with auto brightness enabled.
I hope that helps.
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Couldn't agree more. After owning note 2,3,4,7,8, and 9 with the pen on the right it will take some getting used to.
Battery life is also a bit meh coming from a Poco F2 Pro but it's good enough to get me to the end of the day so I can live with it.
Apart from those two factors I love this thing. Even at 60hz the screen is very bright and vibrant. It's very responsive, plenty quick enough for day to day tasks, and I've got the inferior Exynos model since that's all my country gets.
Camera is also beast. Low light isn't quite as good as my P30 Pro but it's still pretty impressive compared to a lot of smart phones out there. One thing it does have over the p30 is that it's much faster to grab focus so much better for quick snaps.
great phone, super screen, great that the diagonal has become larger, very convenient !!!
I bought note 20 ultra it is most bs phone i ever use it
No complaint in the overall experience
I've had Note 1, Note 3, S7, S10+ and now N20U from HK with Snapdragon. I've only had it two days, but I'm very happy with the phone. Big £ savings vs UK Exynos are icing and a cherry on top of the cake.
Having pre ordered the phone and having used Notes 3,4,7, 8 and now the 20 Utra 5G with 512gb internal storage; I wanted to wait to make a judgement call but I can say while there are things I like about the phone, I don't think it is what I expected and I am done with Samsung products.
I mean they have tried un-successfully to get rid of the micro sd card slot so then they go after the head phone jack. They skimp on the 120Hz display at full resolution. I mean there are a number of things for a flag ship $1549 phone that just say crap. I was interested in a watch and a tab s7 also. but that isn't going to happen.
I've owned a number of Samsung devices in the past, including Notes 8 and 9 as well as an S10e provided by my company. The Note 9 is, to me, an icon and the last no holds barred, everything but the kitchen sink, no compromises, Note. I do a lot of mobile photography and have always gravitated toward devices that had impressive camera/audio/video capabilities as well as feature-filled in other areas. I wanted to get my hands on the Note 20 Ultra but wasn't willing to relinquish my still pristine Note 9 for the pre-order trade in discount. So I waited for the software problems to get sorted out and the prices to come down. I regularly scanned the Offer Up and Swappa websites until I was able to a factory unlocked 512GB model from a good seller at a great price. This device is a juggernaut of power, form, function, features and fun. I found it not to be too much larger than my Note 9 which fits oh so nicely in hand in its Caseoloy Paraxell case. The camera and video set up is a mobile photographer's dream. I've utilized Google Pixel software apks (GCam) on all of my devices going back to my LG V20 and the stock cameras work so well that I have found no need to port one this time out. This is just overall a top notch piece of tech that does so many things and does them well. It is a quality, powerful, feature-filled piece of technology that will fulfill your needs, whether it's mobile photography, work productivity or content consumption/creation and everything in between. I'm glad I added it to my lineup.
Hardware is great ! With a few greed related exceptions, ( Like Non-Removable Battery, No Audio Port,etc... ) Scamsung's Locked Bluetooth codec really burns my ars !
It could Do/Be so much more/better if they would just fix the Hardware/Firmware lockdown BS.
Coming from a Rooted Note3, this is a really bad experience trying to do anything with this thing, Nothing works without agreeing to some sort of sketchy user agreement. No one is making any usable apps any more, Most of the Best Developers have quit bothering with Android. Even simple widgets don't even work anymore
I DO NOT OWN this over priced phone, They Do ! And they do/steal what ever they want to/from it !
They forced Assdroid 11 in the middle of the night with a corrupt image, I was forced to send it back to them to get it re-flashed. Now None of the apps I was using on version 10 will work on ver. 11.
I will NEVER buy another assdroid, scamsung again. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone either.
Sad that almost all the hardware/software makers are using these creepy/greedy tactics to spy,steal & dictate what you should do. No other choices out there any more ...
Soon you will have to log in just to wipe your ass ! & they Will be counting your turds.
Ah yes, the Note 20 Ultra will be my last in a long line of Samsung phone ownership. I'm just not satisfied with this product. That's not to say it's a bad phone but there are other tempting, albeit less expensive options available nowadays. I was happier with the Note 10+. I'm not impressed with the Note 20's cameras the 108mp camera makes no noticeable difference. The large sensor is great but it tends to blur the edges of the object in focus quite frequently. I can't take a selfie without my teeth, which are white, looking like a stick of butter. Battery life is not impressive at all. Basically, there is nothing that justifies the the price I paid for this device and I wish I stuck with my Note 10+.
Fully agree.
The price tag (even if I did not pay for that phone) is insane for that device:
Camera? Lol. Quality not impressive and the 50x zoom garbage produces very nice "Pixel arts" composition. Oops sorry I think I used the word "quality" in that sentence, surely inappropriate in that context.
Battery? lol. I am barely using the phone, it hardly lasts from morning to evening, then battery almost empty
Apps? Junkware? My phone is/was full of links to paying craps from Samsung
The bulge? the weight? Recipe for disaster.
The headphones? The wireless charge? Oh wait, those are extra to be paid separately...
The fingerprint sensor on the screen? lol. Prevents me from using my phone regularly. Rubbish.
CPU oh let's remind that I don't have the same as international, I have the exynox junk.
Samsung junk to "protect" (their business) and lock your phone, so you don't remove their junkwares.
I don't see what that device has more than devices costing 25% of the asking price.
Good experience, it will save me (my own) money for future purchases.
The device is only worth it ( for me anyways ) when heavily discounted via trade in. Otherwise , there's no way in it's worth $1399 plus tax , that's for sure.
I had a brief run with a OnePlus 8 Pro, 799$ black Friday deal, and that was a better value choice over all. However, if one doesn't intend to root then it can be a rather boring device.
I heard that in another brilliant Apple like move that Sammy will not include chargers bundled with their phones.
Samsung Galaxy S21 now looks likely to come without a charger, like the iPhone 12
Samsung may follow Apple's lead
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A Green move designed to steal more of your green... naturally.
Sammy, you've changed, but I'm not seeing rainbows... I'm seeing red.
The exynos version is a bad phone... The snapdragon is better but also doesnt worth 1400$ or €. With worldwide snapdragon for 699-799€ for the ultra would have been an amazing deal...
I'm quite happy, the IQ from the main camera is better than my Note 9 by quite a stretch, and the IQ holds up well in this camera shootout (see GSMArena's camera shootout between Mate 40 Pro, iPhone 12 pro max, Sony Xperia 1 MkII and Note 20 Ultra).
Its well built, I have the exynos version and I'm getting through 2 to 3 days between charges with 7 to 8 hrs SoT. I did debloat a bit but have all the original functionality, dont have it in 5G mode as this does eat battery (Dont have 5g here yet), use wifi 90% of time so phone data is off. I have no issues with fingerprint scanner, works well.
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I'm quite happy, the IQ from the main camera is better than my Note 9 by quite a stretch, and the IQ holds up well in this camera shootout (see GSMArena's camera shootout between Mate 40 Pro, iPhone 12 pro max, Sony Xperia 1 MkII and Note 20 Ultra).
Its well built, I have the exynos version and I'm getting through 2 to 3 days between charges with 7 to 8 hrs SoT. I did debloat a bit but have all the original functionality, dont have it in 5G mode as this does eat battery (Dont have 5g here yet), use wifi 90% of time so phone data is off. I have no issues with fingerprint scanner, works well.
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Which OS are you on?
Guys, did someone force you to buy it?
zazabichi said:
Guys, did someone force you to buy it?
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Samsung phones can be like punji pits, lots of concealed sharp surprises.
zazabichi said:
Guys, did someone force you to buy it?
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No, we are free to review it.
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No, we are free to review it.
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Lol, feel the wuv
The really funny part is Samsung can't handle criticism. If you ever talked to a SK based Samsung rep you'll see what I mean. I enjoy drilling into them immensely. Some of that is cultural and the rest is poor training.
They don't interface well with irate Westerners
Tough.
blackhawk said:
Lol, feel the wuv
The really funny part is Samsung can't handle criticism. If you ever talked to a SK based Samsung rep you'll see what I mean. I enjoy drilling into them immensely. Some of that is cultural and the rest is poor training.
They don't interface well with irate Westerners
Tough.
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So in a nutshell , if one were politely show them an issue they'd get offended ?
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So in a nutshell , if one were politely show them an issue they'd get offended ?
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Well politely to them would be to beat around the bush and never get anything resolved or escalated. If you consider the same rep asking you the same questions 2 even 3 times then yes, yes it's a quit pleasant and polite conversation.
However if on the other hand you tend to be assertive like me, it's the stuff of nightmares for a mealy mouth SK rep. You can feel their bp rising; that's the most satisfaction you're likely to get.
I would rather talk to the wall...
Samsung has the worst customer support of any large corporation I have dealt with extensively.
Worse than Toshiba even Sony... Samsung is that bad, #10.
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Well politely to them would be to beat around the bush and never get anything resolved or escalated. If you consider the same rep asking you the same questions 2 even 3 times then yes, yes it's a quit pleasant and polite conversation.
However if on the other hand you tend to be assertive like me, it's the stuff of nightmares for a mealy mouth SK rep. You can feel their bp rising; that's the most satisfaction you're likely to get.
I would rather talk to the wall...
Samsung has the worst customer support of any large corporation I have dealt with extensively.
Worse than Toshiba even Sony... Samsung is that bad, #10.
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For some strange reason I can believe that.
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For some strange reason I can believe that.
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Nothing like trying it yourself... drive right in, the water is great, pay no never mind to the jellyfish.
Denon on the other hand is an absolute pleasure to deal with; superb customer service.
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Nothing like trying it yourself... drive right in, the water is great, pay no never mind to the jellyfish.
Denon on the other hand is an absolute pleasure to deal with; superb customer service.
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Best customer services that I ever recall was ironically an american firm called Cerwin Vega, mind you this was back in the mid 90s and in the UK. Their UK senior representative came to my home to check out an issue with my AT-100 speakers. Lol
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Best customer services that I ever recall was ironically an american firm called Cerwin Vega, mind you this was back in the mid 90s and in the UK. Their UK senior representative came to my home to check out an issue with my AT-100 speakers. Lol
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"Loud is beautiful… if it's clean"
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"Loud is beautiful… if it's clean"
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Clean it wasn't
I've had the note 9, note 10+, and now the note 20 ultra. I absolutely loved the note 10+ and wish I would of never traded it in for the note 20 ultra piece of dung. What a pile of junk rolled into a barely bronze metal container. I've had many smartphones and loved my Xiaomi phones. What happened with the note 20 ultra?
Yes their customer service is wretched! I needed damage repaired on my S6 tablet. I bought the accidental damage protection plan with my tablet on Shop Samsung's website. Samsung took almost 3 weeks to fix it and kept saying I had not paid for accidental damage coverage. Needless to say after spending a stupid amount of time 2 to 3 times a week on the phone I finally got it covered and got it back only to find it now glitches and crashes and has horrible battery life now. Yay!
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I've had the note 9, note 10+, and now the note 20 ultra. I absolutely loved the note 10+ and wish I would of never traded it in for the note 20 ultra piece of dung. What a pile of junk rolled into a barely bronze metal container. I've had many smartphones and loved my Xiaomi phones. What happened with the note 20 ultra?
Yes their customer service is wretched! I needed damage repaired on my S6 tablet. I bought the accidental damage protection plan with my tablet on Shop Samsung's website. Samsung took almost 3 weeks to fix it and kept saying I had not paid for accidental damage coverage. Needless to say after spending a stupid amount of time 2 to 3 times a week on the phone I finally got it covered and got it back only to find it now glitches and crashes and has horrible battery life now. Yay!
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Fo you have the exynos? The snapdragon is way better... No heating, better battery, better mobile reception...