Hi,
I wasn't able to find any solid proof of my phone's storage being encrypted. I cannot find the encryption option anywhere in the phone settings, so I cannot make sure this way, and it leaves me with three options:
1) The phone's internal storate is encrypted by default as it is mandatory for Android 9 devices and it cannot even be turned off, thus this option is lacking from settings.
2) The phone's internal storage is not encrypted and cannot even be, because Huawei decided to take the encryption out of EMUI.
3) I missed something.
Which one is it?
Thank you for your thoughts
Rasokoule said:
Hi,
I wasn't able to find any solid proof of my phone's storage being encrypted. I cannot find the encryption option anywhere in the phone settings, so I cannot make sure this way, and it leaves me with three options:
1) The phone's internal storate is encrypted by default as it is mandatory for Android 9 devices and it cannot even be turned off, thus this option is lacking from settings.
2) The phone's internal storage is not encrypted and cannot even be, because Huawei decided to take the encryption out of EMUI.
3) I missed something.
Which one is it?
Thank you for your thoughts
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It Is encrypted by default, you can't disable it
madoxx77 said:
It Is encrypted by default, you can't disable it
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madoxx7, How do you know its encrypted by default ?
I've contacted Huawei about it, they told me encryption wasn't supported anymore.
They told me that you have to root your phonr if you want to encrypt it, but they absolutely don't allow encryption of the internal storage.
Frankwatt said:
madoxx7, How do you know its encrypted by default ?
I've contacted Huawei about it, they told me encryption wasn't supported anymore.
They told me that you have to root your phonr if you want to encrypt it, but they absolutely don't allow encryption of the internal storage.
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I know it cause TWRP cannot access internal storage cause it's encrypted(shows random files), yeah they probably meant you need root to decrypt it, cause it's encrypted by default and you cannot do anything about it without roor.
Good to know, thanks
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Hello.
Can't find option to encrypt external sdcard?
How to do it?
ksuuk said:
Hello.
Can't find option to encrypt external sdcard?
How to do it?
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I don't think you can, I tried with Windows' encryption (BitLocker) but the phone didn't recognize the encryption and it was just showing a ****load of empty files
I tried searching for an encryption program on Windows that supports Android but didn't find anything
Hmm, I was looking something like - http://www.techverse.net/encrypt-android-phones-external-sd-card/
Seems MotoG doesn't support it.
The sd card in my moto x4 device doesn't show up "format as internal storage" but I'm still able to use it as external. Can somebody help me
that option is not available. don't ask me why.
it's slow AF anyway, why would you nees it?
"... File-based encryption [FBE] cannot currently be used together with adoptable storage. On devices using file-based encryption, new storage media (such as an SD card) must be used as traditional storage ..."
The Moto X4 uses FBE ...
I guess the next question will be ...
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...k-encryption-instead-of-file-based-encryption
romhippo.com said:
"... File-based encryption [FBE] cannot currently be used together with adoptable storage. On devices using file-based encryption, new storage media (such as an SD card) must be used as traditional storage ..."
The Moto X4 uses FBE ...
I guess the next question will be ...
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...k-encryption-instead-of-file-based-encryption
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I researched this heavily while building TWRP, but abandoned it in favor of trying to build TWRP that properly decrypts the default encryption.
It seems that the fstab.qcom flag "forceencrypt" will force FDE as the default encryption.
This tag (instead of forceencrypt) is supposed to enable an encryption selection option Developer Tools:
forcefdeorfbe=/dev/block/platform/c0c4000.sdhci/by-name/metadata
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I have not fully tested either, but I may return to converting to FDE if I can't solve FBE in TWRP
I should also note... the kernel will overwrite changes to fstab.qcom on boot, so implementation is more difficult than first glance
Hi Mightysween, Thanks for the update. I hope somebody will find a way to disable Direct Boot (and the FBE requirement that come with it).
Offtopic: I am also following your TWRP topic. Thanks for making "the process" public. It is a very interesting read. Thanks for your efforts!
is it fixed on Oreo? I mean if I update to Oreo will possible to format as internal storage?
PherChe said:
is it fixed on Oreo? I mean if I update to Oreo will possible to format as internal storage?
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No, not yet
I'm hoping someone can help me.
My wife has a Note 8 (N950U) and she accidentally deleted her entire camera folder. I thought she was backing up to GPhotos but she wasn't. She had no cloud back up, and the photos were saved to internal memory not an SD. She has some photos that she is desperate to try to recover (including the last photos of her mother before she passed away). I'm fairly technically savvy, but I haven't messed under the hood of Android before. From what I've read, the only way to try to recover deleted files in this scenario is to be able to run a utility like DiskDigger as root (and I'm aware that there is only a small chance that the photos can be recovered).
So I think I need to root the phone and I don't plan to leave it rooted, just need to root it long enough to run the recovery utility and then put it back.
I see there is the SamFAIL method to root but... do I understand correctly that it will only work on Android 7? (her phone is on Oreo firmware version N950USQS5CRID)
So I read that if you are on Oreo and want to use SamFAIL, you could downgrade to Nougat first and then follow the SamFAIL process. But I have had zero success with getting a downgrade to work. Is this a possible path or does the firmware loaded on this phone completely prevent any process to get to root?
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks
No root for Snapdragon Oreo and you can't downgrade. And do check this Q&A section, threads like this already exist.
Once you upgrade to any firmware version that has a higher bootloader version, you can never go back to anything with a lower bootloader, even if it is the same (nougatt,, oreo) so,, any oreo firmware will always have higher bootloader versions than a nougatt one, besides,, once you root, samsung pay and secure folder will be gone forever,, there is no way to get them back, no workaround, no trick,, nothing will do
Try running Data Recovery software on it. If she has written over the sectors, which contain the photo's data then you won't be able to recover it.
iceepyon said:
Try running Data Recovery software on it. If she has written over the sectors, which contain the photo's data then you won't be able to recover it.
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Would that be possible even without root? I thought root would be required for recovery to work.
rjdmail said:
Would that be possible even without root? I thought root would be required for recovery to work.
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You don't need root access. If you connect the device to a computer and run the recovery software via that. You should be able to recover all the deleted data from your device that way. Using a data recovery app on your device requires root access.
iceepyon said:
You don't need root access. If you connect the device to a computer and run the recovery software via that. You should be able to recover all the deleted data from your device that way. Using a data recovery app on your device requires root access.
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There are a lot of scammy looking software out there when I search for this. Is there a recommended program for Windows that works for this type of recovery?
rjdmail said:
I'm hoping someone can help me.
My wife has a Note 8 (N950U) and she accidentally deleted her entire camera folder. I thought she was backing up to GPhotos but she wasn't. She had no cloud back up, and the photos were saved to internal memory not an SD.
Thanks
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Its not possible to recover photos from android internal storage by using any kind of methods. There are various reasons for this.
The internal storage is encrypted and no third party software knows about the process. Even TWRP cant mount the storage with encryption.
The MTP protocol prohibits windows recovery tools to access the internal storage directly.
By now, the physical area might have been overwritten and data would have been lost already.
Sorry, but still, i suggest you to go to files, turn on show hidden files, navigate to dcim/.thumbnail. there might be some photos available either in internal or sdcard.
Good luck.
rjdmail said:
I'm hoping someone can help me.
My wife has a Note 8 (N950U) and she accidentally deleted her entire camera folder. I thought she was backing up to GPhotos but she wasn't. She had no cloud back up, and the photos were saved to internal memory not an SD. She has some photos that she is desperate to try to recover (including the last photos of her mother before she passed away). I'm fairly technically savvy, but I haven't messed under the hood of Android before. From what I've read, the only way to try to recover deleted files in this scenario is to be able to run a utility like DiskDigger as root (and I'm aware that there is only a small chance that the photos can be recovered).
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Firstly, rooting the device you will need to format the internal storage, anyway, to get rid of the encryption, so doing that your wife will lose everything on her device, anyway. This includes apps, music, videos, and anything else she might have on it. It's like doing a factory reset. So that wouldn't have helped your cause.
Second, apps like DiskDigger doesn't actually recover anything, either. I tried it before when I lost some photos. All it does is scour your device for thumbnails of images. Some apps save low resolution thumbnails, some save slightly higher resolution, but even if it finds thumbnails of the images you want to recover, it'll never be the same quality as the original ones. This is from my own experience of using this app and one or two others like it.
Thirdly, flash memory works a little different to hard drives and Android also works different to Windows. When you delete something off flash memory, it doesn't necessarily just mark the file as deleted or keep remnants or something, like Windows does. You can test this yourself by copying something onto an SD card, then deleting it and sticking the SD card in a computer or laptop and running data recovery software on that. Chances are high it won't pick up the deleted content.
Sadly, like sandeepkumar0153 said, your best and likely only bet is to look in the thumbnails directory to see if there's thumbnails of the images, but be prepared that those images will be very low resolution. It might really be worth it.
My advice is to make peace with what happened and start getting into the habit up backing up important files like that. I've lost many, many photos and other stuff due to the same issues or situations where I couldn't boot the device and had to do factory resets. It's sad and painful, but it happens.
Hello everyone ,
I recently encrypted my phone, using the utility in setting>advanced>security>crypt your phone but realized that the sd card wasn't encrypted and that there was no available option in the default menu.
Adoptable storage would be a solution, but, even though there are some hacks that can enable adoptable storage on the honor 4X (like using Root Essentials), those options aren't 100% working (bugs when displaying available space, ...). So that doesn't look like the best solution. (I saw this post, but I don't see how I could use encryption with this method and am not really comfortable with the idea of flashing a pre-packaged modified kernel, in which I can't see what else might have been changed)
I also experimented with ROMs available for the device (ex : RROS) wich have adoptable storage enabled, but I am not 100% satisfied with those ROMs so I don't want to use them on my every day device (problems with the GPS when no GAPPS, which I'd like to avoid, battery drain, ...).
I know there are apps like EDS lite with which you can create an encrypted container, but I'd like to keep it more convenient and so I'm looking to encrypt the whole sd card and decrypt it at boot time. So basically, the best case scenario would be to have an encrypted SD card, but still be able to do everything I'm used to doing with it (move apps, listen to music, scroll my photo gallery, ...)
I am not strictly speaking looking for adoptable storage, just for a solution to have an encrypted sd card working (actually, a scenario more like where I could make a LUKS EXT4 partiton on my whole card would be awesome, so that you can have your data back when the phone dies). Also, my phone is rooted and, even though I don't really know about the "hidden things" in Android, I'm comfortable enough on Linux, so I don't mind having to use a terminal to achieve my purpose.
If anyone has an idea, that would be awesome, many thanks in advance
I am unable to locate magisk in internal storage in TWRP. Internal storage shows some size but cannot see the zip file anywhere. I also dont own a sd card so using that is out of the option. I have even tried adb sideload but it was showing as error 2. I am just 1 step away to root my phone and that is just to install magisk somehow on my phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Princesskomz said:
I am unable to locate magisk in internal storage in TWRP. Internal storage shows some size but cannot see the zip file anywhere. I also dont own a sd card so using that is out of the option. I have even tried adb sideload but it was showing as error 2. I am just 1 step away to root my phone and that is just to install magisk somehow on my phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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first, get a micro sd card. on some roms you might encounter a problem with data decryption of internal storage, thus making reading anything with twrp unusable. also you need one to make a nandroid backup to restore your phone. second, see where your browser downloaded the file. perhaps in android/data ? some of them do download there, since scoped storage
Fytdyh said:
first, get a micro sd card. on some roms you might encounter a problem with data decryption of internal storage, thus making reading anything with twrp unusable. also you need one to make a nandroid backup to restore your phone. second, see where your browser downloaded the file. perhaps in android/data ? some of them do download there, since scoped storage
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Thanks for the response. I thought we can root without sd card as nowadays phones come with internal storage. Anyways, I have not added customised rom its the original one that I use. The file I downloaded was in another zip folder, not in android/data as seen on pc. also in twrp I can see my storage is mounted like I can see the size number "Internal Storage (532276mb)" something like this but I am still unable to locate a single folder let alone any file in internal storage. I am so confused as how to proceed further.
try removing any security from your phone, like fingerprints or pin. maybe thats a reason
Fytdyh said:
try removing any security from your phone, like fingerprints or pin. maybe thats a reason
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my phone is without any security. still I am unable to find any solution
do we need to install some custom rom ?