Potential 2nd Hand Purchase - hardware faults to look for? - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

Hi all,
so I'm looking at getting a 2nd hand Note 9 via a store with a warranty (not someone off the street, based in the UK).
I've been browsing trying to catch up on faults and things to look out for. I've noticed that there's at least a camera modal fault where at various levels of zoom the camera may cause noises and vibrations. This common?
Of course, there's always trying to check battery health too.
Otherwise, doesn't seem too much wrong hardware wise - have noticed a lot of people wanting to roll back to Oreo due to changes in UI? Also, looks like I need to check Knox in download mode at least.
Anything else I should keep an eye out for?
I do only get 6 months warranty and have been burnt via a Nexus battery failure on a second hand phone before that was just out of warranty to return it. I'm also coming from a Note 4 where I had a fault on the board which lead to it's replacement.

Spen remote function. mine s pen remote functionality not working right after latest pie OTA update. i am getting spen not connected error. so make sure spen is connected to phone and it's battery (Spen battery) last approximate 200 button clicks.

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Common Issues with Z3C

Please mention all the common issues found in this device (both Hardware and Software level)
So far I have gathered one issue mainly
- The USB/SD Card flap gets loosen or does not properly close.
Some units may have excessive gap between the glass and the frame, either top or bottom.
in_core said:
- The USB/SD Card flap gets loosen or does not properly close.
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Because of this mine is on the way back to Vodafone [emoji22]
Mine has a dead pixel. But these arent common issues unless a lot of people complain about them tbh.
Servaas said:
Mine has a dead pixel. But these arent common issues unless a lot of people complain about them tbh.
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Was the dead pixel noticeable from the very first day?
Ive got two things where im not sure if that are real Problems or just a question of settings.
First one is that voice from the other part is not really loud, even on the highest setting, during a phone call.
The other one is the battery time. I dont get such high results like 2 days from the tests on different websites. I only got one day with moderate usage.
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Was the dead pixel noticeable from the very first day?
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No second day, first day I probably didnt notice. Nor do I now to be honest... was hesitating about sending it back but ehh... its so much hassle and like I said I can hardly tell its dead.
I have returned mine to o2 within the initial cooling off period, there's too many problems to risk sorry. I loved the spec and design too
Did you experience any problems or did you just bottle it? I've had mine for a week or so with no problems at all.
qbert456 said:
I have returned mine to o2 within the initial cooling off period, there's too many problems to risk sorry. I loved the spec and design too
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I'd assume that more than 90% of units have no major issues. The misleading thing is that, in communities like these, people with faulty units are far more represented than people who are satisfied.
Honestly, I didn't really use it,it kept all the plastic films on etc. It's not that I'm not going to get one if it proves reliable more that I'm quite unlucky with phones generally!
I will keep looking in here tho and will likely getting a red/orange one again in a few weeks....
qbert456 said:
Honestly, I didn't really use it,it kept all the plastic films on etc. It's not that I'm not going to get one if it proves reliable more that I'm quite unlucky with phones generally!
I will keep looking in here tho and will likely getting a red/orange one again in a few weeks....
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I suggest you just get a silicone cover or something, to protect it. A wrist lanyard also helps a lot. And to increase your chance of getting a Z3C from a more recent production batch, you can keep an eye on a web shop and order a Z3C after the stock runs out and is restocked.
Camera Button
Is the Z3c hardware camera button designed to require a fairly lengthy press to activate? I'm guessing that maybe it's a design built in to perhaps avoid accidental pocket presses, but I'm not sure.
Just a quick tap does not activate it on mine, but it works fine with a slightly longer press.
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Is the Z3c hardware camera button designed to require a fairly lengthy press to activate? I'm guessing that maybe it's a design built in to perhaps avoid accidental pocket presses, but I'm not sure.
Just a quick tap does not activate it on mine, but it works fine with a slightly longer press.
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Mine too, also there seems to be a 2-step press for it, as on a regular camera (half hold down to focus). Half pressing doesn't start it.
Have had to mess with settings to turn off the quick launch which was set to launch and capture as I have so many pics of either a finger or blackness!
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impact1991 said:
Ive got two things where im not sure if that are real Problems or just a question of settings.
First one is that voice from the other part is not really loud, even on the highest setting, during a phone call.
The other one is the battery time. I dont get such high results like 2 days from the tests on different websites. I only got one day with moderate usage.
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On mine the sound is pretty loud through the mic, so much so that I thought the loudspeaker was on! Conversely though the actual loudspeaker doesn't seem that loud! Go figure!
For the battery I think you would only get 2 days with the Stamina settings active. I manage to get down to about 25% on a full day of regular usage (in office etc). The Stamina / Ultra stamina modes seem to just disable pretty much everything on the phone. OK if you need to keep it powered on but no good for regular usage. I've ended up turning stamina mode on and then re-enabling Wifi, seems to improve life quite a bit for the times I have been hammering it!
degraaff said:
I'd assume that more than 90% of units have no major issues. The misleading thing is that, in communities like these, people with faulty units are far more represented than people who are satisfied.
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Always been the case since the Treo days, lol. People will look and see all these problems, but they are random people, that really only for the most part show up here to resolve "issues". While it is a great thing for folks looking for corrections, it does appear bad on the surface if you don't really understand the dynamic at play on boards like these.
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Poojo said:
Is the Z3c hardware camera button designed to require a fairly lengthy press to activate? I'm guessing that maybe it's a design built in to perhaps avoid accidental pocket presses, but I'm not sure.
Just a quick tap does not activate it on mine, but it works fine with a slightly longer press.
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Yes. Your button is behaving normally.
I'm currently on my third unit within 7 days. My Internet connection seems to hang about 2 or 3 times a day, and until I try to use the Internet Is don't realise. After then restarting my phone, I get a flood of whatsapps, emails and fb alerts. It's getting really old really quickly,to the point where I just want rid of the phone.
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I'm currently on my third unit within 7 days. My Internet connection seems to hang about 2 or 3 times a day, and until I try to use the Internet Is don't realise. After then restarting my phone, I get a flood of whatsapps, emails and fb alerts. It's getting really old really quickly,to the point where I just want rid of the phone.
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I've only had that once, last Fri however it is a bit weird, here's how mine manifested itself:
- Work most of the day in an office, good wifi connection. Don't use the phone much but see that it is working OK, getting emails, fb updates etc. Can browse the internet via Chrome
- Left the office and try to do a search. Using Google search from the home screen the results showed up very quickly but then when I tried to open any of those links in chrome it would just say no network or something similar. Tried shutting down chrome, clearing cache and data but made no difference.
The weird thing here is that the 4g / mobile data connection WAS working, but the issue was with Chrome.
I'm still stock, not likely to change that but since Chrome is now an intrinsic part of the Xperia build how do you uninstall / reinstall? Or do I end up installing another browser?
Chrome has done this to me on Z3 Compact and a few times on my previous Xperia ZR. Just close the browser from the multi-app right button by flicking it to the side, then try again. If it gets too tedious, install another browser.
Hi, any one have the same issue as me?
My Z3C black out after 2nd week of use then could not power on. Brought to service center and the person claim that it is software issue.. Took back the phone after they reformatted, then after 12hrs use, same problem again.. Then they change 1-1 for me.. but after another week of use, same issue on the 2nd phone!
who have the same issue as me? what should i do next? i cant be bringing the phone in to service center every week..
hello,
I think it's the same pb for me... "Z3 Compact" bought the 28.09.2014. The phone is turned off itself in the middle of the day in my pocket. The battery level was approx. 75% => Black screen, not even light on the charger...:S The Sony support told me to send them with charger and usb cable. I am waiting for news... approx. 10 days...

Samsung Galaxy Note 5 S-Pen Sensitivity Issue

Starting a new thread since I could not find any existing thread on this and it is quite surprising since this is a widespread issue and for the same reason Samsung service here in Melbourne even refused to acknowledge this is an issue! There logic seemingly being if the issue is present in the demo unit in the store as well, it is not an issue! Vodafone has also refused to honor the warranty, even though it is in the first month of my contract and they should be replacing the handset and dealing with Samsung, and have instead told me to provide them with an acknowledgement from Samsung stating it is an issue! Talk about deadlocks!
Now coming to the issue, I have found out that there are sensitivity issues when using the S-Pen on the bottom right and left corners of the screen. There are issue on the top part of the screen as well but they arent as serious. I would also request you to check the same on your device and report back if you are also facing the same.
To check, first get into diagnostics mode by dialing *#0*# and then go to the S-Pen tab.
1. As you can see in the video, the bottom right and left corners have definite and serious issues with S-Pen sensitivity. I found this out, and it is also a use case and one of the major reasons that I went for Galaxy Note 5, while taking a screen grab from the middle of the screen right until the bottom right corner. I just could not do it. As soon as the S Pen reaches near the corner, the sensitivity issue makes sure that input isn't recognized. Not only this, even when it manages to identify the touch, the tracking is random with the S-Pen having a mind of its own.
2. The second issue is while drawing on the top part of the screen with the S-Pen but this one is not as serious as the first one. You can see in the video that S-Pen loses sensitivity in one particular area of the screen. This is easily corrected though, by pressing the S-Pen harder on the screen.
This is apart from the lag and slowness issues that rear their ugly head every once in a while and in a phone which runs an Octa Core CPU with a whopping 4GB of RAM. This is my first Samsung in a long long time and it has left me disappointed again exactly like it did in the past whenever I bought a Samsung phone. To me the level of polish of the hardware on a device costing as much as this is simply not acceptable. What are your thought? Please report in this thread if you are facing the same issue as I am with the S-Pen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN41nE1lWGI
I have multiple stand-alone S Pens and don't experience what you're describing with them or the one included with the device.
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I have multiple stand-alone S Pens and don't experience what you're describing with them or the one included with the device.
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Strange because I could replicate it on all the demo devices in the store. That is their reasoning for refusing the warranty as well.
I'll say this, the included pen is more responsive on the display than pens that are pre-Note 5 so something in the pen and/or display has changed.
Does it mean mine has a problem then? I am wondering if anyone else can also confirm the same?
I can confirm the bottom left and right corner of my note 5 behave just like OP's does... but wouldn't have found out if he didn't mention it
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I can confirm the bottom left and right corner of my note 5 behave just like OP's does... but wouldn't have found out if he didn't mention it
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Thanks Alex. I found the issue because I could not take a screenshot which finished near the bottom corner of the screen. Now smart select is a headline feature of the phone and this hadrware oversight to be is just not acceptable. The Samsung service would not acknowledge it as an issue let alone do something about it. May be it is only on the first batch of phone. Who knows?
I checked my phone (SM-N9208 TW, mfg: will add later) and the bottom corners have poor tracking with the hover point flying off the screen when held above.
Overall this issue shouldn't affect the usability of the phone if you rarely use these areas since it's still possible though difficult to use the s-pen there.
Edit: I re-tested with my phone flat and s-pen vertical*. The s-pen can be used on the very bottom corners with precise movements, so I don't think will affect usability for most people most of the time.
*Having the s-pen on an angle can affect the tracking significantly as seen in your video. I think the only solution would be to modify the s-pen to track at the very tip. This would probably make the tip non-replaceable and/or more complex and expensive. If someone has time, try using the s-pen without a tip and see if/how it tracks.
Update: I tested a SM-N920W8 in store and it had the same corner issue.
I complained to Vodafone again and they decided to take the phone back. Back to trusty properly working iPhone 6s Plus 64GB. My last Samsung device no matter what the specs. I wouldn't be interested in one even if it will have a gazillion core CPU and few petabytes of RAM.
I have the same issue. Can anyone else, note 5 users confirm about this issue. (Bottom right hover issue)
I dont't face that problem
Edit: here is a screenshot
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5LZ1p_SFZ3faTFJNzBzZGlnbzA/view?usp=docslist_api
Mine does it a little bit.
It still passes the test so I believe it's within spec. I honestly don't see it being a warranty issue.
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Sometimes, it is the Cover magnet.
Sometimes, it is the Cover magnet. . Try to remove you phone from it and try the s pen in the touch area in question. It worked for me with in a leather flip cover. The same for the s note stopping error message.
same here
SM-N920C cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
if you have magnetic casing will get such problems ....
or fake s-pen need to replace with original or better fake quality
My stylus is overly sensitive; so much that I can't write properly. All text is in continuation even when I lift the stylus off for whitespace. I even followed the article on adjusting the sensitivity of the S Pen by removing the click-button cover and adjusting the Potentiometer. However, the note 4 s pen is entierly different as it doesn't have any Potentiometer under the click button. Link to article:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191333
What annoys me most is that I never had this issue before I flew overseas last month. I started experiencing this issue after I came back and it has rendered my s pen useless. Has anyone found a way to adjust Potentiometer on the new S spen yet (it might be located under top cap but i'm not sure how to open it).
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My stylus is overly sensitive; so much that I can't write properly. All text is in continuation even when I lift the stylus off for whitespace. I even followed the article on adjusting the sensitivity of the S Pen by removing the click-button cover and adjusting the Potentiometer. However, the note 4 s pen is entierly different as it doesn't have any Potentiometer under the click button. Link to article:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191333
What annoys me most is that I never had this issue before I flew overseas last month. I started experiencing this issue after I came back and it has rendered my s pen useless. Has anyone found a way to adjust Potentiometer on the new S spen yet (it might be located under top cap but i'm not sure how to open it).
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I am having this same problem. Did you ever find a fix for it? Thank you!
Yes confirmation of problem
I found the same problem. If you try to draw a square in the S pen test mode you cannot draw a square in the bottom left or right corner. The square will turn into some kind of strange wiggle shape.
I live in Malaysia and went to the official Samsung head office service center and they confirmed this is a problem with all Note 5 models and the lady showed me her own personal Note 5 which had the same problem (actually worse than mine).
The service technicians said they do not know the reason for this problem. But as an electrical engineer I suspect there is some sensors in those areas which cause interference with the S Pen.

Lenovo ZUK z1 is worth or not

Hi,
I have read the comments in amazon and also seen the reviews of Lenovo ZUK Z1 indian unit.
i found there are some issues like :-
-near the home button right side led light is not working properly.
-there are some heating issues in normal usage also.
-it hangs when we are in a call and there is only one way i.e. reboot of device.
-i also found comments saying that there is much difference between indian unit and other unit.
According to specs the hardware is realy good in this price segment but still some comments are saying its not worth to buy it.
Can anyone suggests wether i should go for Lenovo ZUK z1 (indian unit) or not.
I'm fairly happy with my ZUK Z1! I myself dide any of the issues you described, though I did have a major battery issue which I had to get fixed. Much more detail below;
The capacitive buttons' LED lights are just small white dots - they are a bit dim and hard to see outside (I believe that's just the way they are on the device). Regardless they do work fine - though I personally prefer on-screen buttons (navbar), which is an awesome option on Cyanogen which I do use (together with the physical home button). Phone does not feel hot to me (compared to other Android I tried - such as Sony Xperia Z3 Compact and LG G4 which did get confidently hotter). Calls work fine. I have no experience at all with the Indian version, I just had the International version with Cyanogen OS.
Now the problem I did have was that the battery my device came with was screwed up. The phone would turn off at random times and often display inaccurate battery percentages (e.g. fluctuating percentages, or phone displaying 1% for hours). It was really bad, a serious fault. Thankfully I was able to get it fixed for free thru warranty - since I bought it from a local store with 1 year warranty coverage (which was extremely useful for once). They replaced my battery for free and now it works great!
So that being said - there is indeed always a risk of getting a device with a hardware fault. Budget devices like this may be more prone to QA issues but remember that devices of any type or price occasionally have unit faults like that. Also keep in mind that people who have these issues are more likely to shout online than people who don't.
Overall though - I am quite happy with this device. It is fast and snappy, the battery life is indeed very good (lasts me a day and a half of fairly heavy usage) and I also like the fingerprint sensor (though I've had some mixed results with it. My tip is to make sure you initially scan your finger as best and fully as you can). I like the stock+ Android feel with Cyanogen OS (though Cyanogen are taking their sweet time with the Marshmallow update for this device! Though there are good custom ROMs for this device including CM13). I can recommend it.
If you can get it with warranty I say it's really a good choice, especially as a decent warranty can remove your worries. If I'd consider another device it would Xiamoi Redmi 3 Note Pro, which has similar specs but with a newer, better more efficient Snapdragon chip. There is also the ZUK Z2, but I think it's a shame that it has a smaller battery.
It's a decent phone but I wouldn't recommend it. A lot of people have problems with the home button (mine included) the fingerprint scanner doesn't work anymore. Cos has some nice features but the security patch is from last month and still no word on when we receive marshmallow.
My 2 cents, do yourself a favor, forget this phone unless it's free or very good bargain, it was promising at the start, end up as nightmare for most owners, just read some of the thread, every components has some issues, sound, GPS, home bottom, screen, battery, charging, COs patches, you name it.
Yeah, this phone turned out to be a huge disappointment. I faced issues with the original unit as well as the replacement unit. Eventually, I returned it and got myself a refund.
1. Back button led is dimmer than the menu button led. This is really annoying if you're used to the capacitive buttons. Even though it's a mid-range phone, this is not something that I'd expect because Rs.13,500 is still a good amount of money.
2. The phone has very obvious heating issues, especially near the top. Even when idle, temps refused to drop below 37-38 degrees. While charging, it was easily crossing the 50 degree mark. While running apps, it was crossing 60 degrees. My first unit became warm in my pocket for no reason at all.
3. The replacement unit that I received had vibration issues. The vibration kept turning off randomly. It used to turn back on after a few seconds.
4. Adaptive brightness is very slow. It takes a good 3-4 seconds for the ambient sensor to recognize the change in light intensity. I turned it off immediately.
5. Double tap to wake stops working after some time and you have to soft reboot the phone to get it to work again. However, I did not face this issue with the replacement unit.
6. The fingerprint sensor is not really as accurate and fast as the company claims it to be. The fact that you have to press the home button to wake the phone first adds to the time taken to unlock the phone. The fact that the home button isn't exactly soft does not help. More often than not, I had to keep my finger placed on the home button even after waking the device just to get it to recognize my fingerprint.
7. This one's a minor con but the ZUK printed below Lenovo on the back was slanted and not aligned perfectly below Lenovo. The print also appeared cheap and looked like it will come off pretty easily.
Considering the OPO has pretty much the same specs, I don't understand why the ZUK Z1 is plagued with so many issues. Also, in all the online reviews, the international version of the phone didn't seem to have all the above issues. Kinda makes me wonder if Lenovo has cut corners for the Indian launch of the phone, hence, the lower than the international version pricing.
Honestly, at this point, there's not much point in buying this phone. There are better and cheaper options available. Not to mention, some great phones will be coming out in the next couple of months, so it'd be better if you're willing to wait.
karthiksha said:
zuk z1 international version same in India ?
indian unit zuk z1 model is "z1221" its is same international version ???
any hardware changes in Indian units ??
why Indian unit having lenovo logo,zuk logo & other information in back side.. ?
but in international version only zuk logo on back side..
in Facebook and other site - my mobile recognized as "Sony xperia z1" anybody facing this problems ??
anyone using volte ?? zuk z1 have volte ??
how to check support mobile connectivity information like gsm band,lte band ?
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Mine is also showing up as a xperia z 1
very happy with this phone. after a day's work, i still have about 50% of juice. I've had xiaomi, LG, Xperia in the past. this phone just rocks.
using zuk z1
wouldnt recommend. breaking home button and missing software support and updates ... if my homebutton is broken i will swap it at amazon und buy another phone.
anybody solved the problem of failed recognition (zuk z1 = sony xperia z1). is it possible that that is the reason for google play store some apps show me that my device is not supported?

Note 7 bugs

I don't know how much longer I can put up with Samsung. I've been with them since the note 1 and it's so bad now. Everything from poor software to faulty hardware. GPS seems like its never worked correctly, no matter what they do. Updates cripple their phones. Their camera has certainly gone backwards in quality since the note 4 camera. The phone is lagging and slow always. Even in safe mode. The battery life is 3 hours at best, which is unacceptable. They force updates now, like Microsoft. They bundle things that you can't remove like facebook and instagram, but make you separately download their media players? That's backwards. The reception is horrible compared to other phones. Wi-Fi drops all the time, even next to my router. It has to warn me every single time I plug in headphones that it could damage my hearing. It has to notify me every single time I open the camera that location is either on or off. Charging is slow. Games shudder and lag no matter what I do. I can remove huge, useless apps like facebook. I can't root because of the locked bootloaders. I can't ever quickly see my new facebook messages because it has to now group multiple notifications and there is no way to turn off the "open chat heads" nonsense. The only thing mine doesn't do is over heat it seems like. That green battery ic9on update with the ultimate new UI completely compromised my Note. T-Mobile won't take it back without paying $50 either.
Samsung seems to have turned their backs on what their actual fans want in favor of being an iClone. Why does every single app and menu have a search bar now? Annoying. The drop down menu and notifications have severely dropped in quality since ICS. Does anyone else feel this way at all? It took me a long time to swallow my pride and get the note 2 way back when. Now I regret that I did. I can't find a way around these issues and no one will help.
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Worth buying the Xperia XZ2 in the late 2019?

I am interested in a buying a 2nd all-arounder phone that mostly ticks all key boxes and found out that the XZ2 is almost there.
As it will be my first Sony I need your experience with the device to decide to buying it or get a different one:
1) are there any serious issues that affect the device, maybe design issues or bad experiences with the device? Maybe display, speakers, or other hardware stuff to concern me?
2) I am interested in root-ability o this phone. Is I saw that there is some development. for this phone and since I am sort of experienced in Custom ROM stuff, I want to know if there are specific rooting issues? Are the valid options for un-bricking it, just in case. Is there a big amount of bricked phones?
3) how's sony with the updates for this device for official firmware updates?
4) is Google Camera functional after rooting?
5) is the phone performance still holding good in late 2019?
I appreciate your responses in any form or shape!
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I am interested in a buying a 2nd all-arounder phone that mostly ticks all key boxes and found out that the XZ2 is almost there.
As it will be my first Sony I need your experience with the device to decide to buying it or get a different one:
1) are there any serious issues that affect the device, maybe design issues or bad experiences with the device? Maybe display, speakers, or other hardware stuff to concern me?
2) I am interested in root-ability o this phone. Is I saw that there is some development. for this phone and since I am sort of experienced in Custom ROM stuff, I want to know if there are specific rooting issues? Are the valid options for un-bricking it, just in case. Is there a big amount of bricked phones?
3) how's sony with the updates for this device for official firmware updates?
4) is Google Camera functional after rooting?
5) is the phone performance still holding good in late 2019?
I appreciate your responses in any form or shape!
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I like my still fast XZ2 with OmniROM 9.0
catalindobre said:
I am interested in a buying a 2nd all-arounder phone that mostly ticks all key boxes and found out that the XZ2 is almost there.
As it will be my first Sony I need your experience with the device to decide to buying it or get a different one:
1) are there any serious issues that affect the device, maybe design issues or bad experiences with the device? Maybe display, speakers, or other hardware stuff to concern me?
2) I am interested in root-ability o this phone. Is I saw that there is some development. for this phone and since I am sort of experienced in Custom ROM stuff, I want to know if there are specific rooting issues? Are the valid options for un-bricking it, just in case. Is there a big amount of bricked phones?
3) how's sony with the updates for this device for official firmware updates?
4) is Google Camera functional after rooting?
5) is the phone performance still holding good in late 2019?
I appreciate your responses in any form or shape!
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1-some devices are affected from bad production including mine, ghosting on LCD below room temperature, horizontal static electric lines appearing after rubbing the screen, speakers may get temporary damage for no reason (can be fixed by opening the sim tray and pulling that paper in there and waiting a little) or can get permanently damaged if you overdrive them with something like xLoud easily, if you dont want a super slippery 200g heavy 1.1cm thick glass brick look somewhere else (buttons are jiggly too)
2-custom roms have problems with audio and camera and it'll take some time to get fixed and at the end there's the possibility of it not being better than stock camera (also typical sony drm stuff will be lost after unlocking the bootloader)
3-device getting regular security patches and will be updated to android 10 in early 2020 (keep your bootloader locked if you want OTA)
4-no, gcam requires full camera2api and raw support which isnt there on stock
5-performance is good probably due to having close to stock android
this is my first xperia and I'd not recommend this phone to anybody unless you are crazy about what is sony doing with their sony open devices project like the guy above martin
Faruk.ErdaL said:
1-some devices are affected from bad production including mine, ghosting on LCD below room temperature, horizontal static electric lines appearing after rubbing the screen, speakers may get temporary damage for no reason (can be fixed by opening the sim tray and pulling that paper in there and waiting a little) or can get permanently damaged if you overdrive them with something like xLoud easily, if you dont want a super slippery 200g heavy 1.1cm thick glass brick look somewhere else (buttons are jiggly too)
2-custom roms have problems with audio and camera and it'll take some time to get fixed and at the end there's the possibility of it not being better than stock camera (also typical sony drm stuff will be lost after unlocking the bootloader)
3-device getting regular security patches and will be updated to android 10 in early 2020 (keep your bootloader locked if you want OTA)
4-no, gcam requires full camera2api and raw support which isnt there on stock
5-performance is good probably due to having close to stock android
this is my first xperia and I'd not recommend this phone to anybody unless you are crazy about what is sony doing with their sony open devices project like the guy above martin
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I'm sorry to hear that you got a faulty unit.
Did you try to RMA it?
Because I never had such issues, except touch issues in Android 8, which got 90% fixed now (Sometimes while I super fast do swipes on the keyboard it may not recognize only a single swipe at the beginning of the writing).
Camera and Audio are work in progress on the custom roms based on sony open devices project.
SODP is an isolated sony employee team in the sony company + volunteers which need to implement everything by themselves without access to the stock source code (but with access to the closed source Qualcomm source code and documentations).
The camera doesn't degrade on unlock on your stock firmware, so you can freely continue using the stock firmware until the SODP camera reaches a equal or better quality.
(Since SODP supports the entire Camera2API with RAW and GCAM support to raise the quality it may become better than stock.)
And the performance is like stock on SODP.
My benchmark shows the same values like stock, too and you don't have bloat/stock apps preinstalled without the possibility to remove them without root.
PS: The SODP based custom roms are not affected by DRM, since they are a reimplementation of the hardware drivers, there isn't any usecase for DRM keys.

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