K20 pro front camera - Redmi K20 Pro / Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro Questions & Answe

HEy guys i have the Chinese version and i think the front camera is really bad, i had a one plus 5t before and it was much better, anyway to improve it? What's the best gcam version for selfies?

Docxsido said:
HEy guys i have the Chinese version and i think the front camera is really bad, i had a one plus 5t before and it was much better, anyway to improve it? What's the best gcam version for selfies?
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I have the Chinese version too, I'm not having any issues, the front camera takes better pics than my Samsung s8+ front camera. Make sure the lens is Clean, apart from that not sure what other apps that can be used as an alternative camera aop

sofir786 said:
I have the Chinese version too, I'm not having any issues, the front camera takes better pics than my Samsung s8+ front camera. Make sure the lens is Clean, apart from that not sure what other apps that can be used as an alternative camera aop
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I mean there is a big lack of details, for exemple hair on beard looks blurry

Docxsido said:
I mean there is a big lack of details, for exemple hair on beard looks blurry
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Wow really, I dont have that issue, by default the front camera applies a smooth filter, you have to turn it down.

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Photo quality seems awful on the 3t?

Does anyone have any tips to make the photos crisper? They seems fuzzy
worldsoutro said:
Does anyone have any tips to make the photos crisper? They seems fuzzy
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Are you talking about back or front camera?
Pharrax said:
Are you talking about back or front camera?
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Sorry Back cam
The zoom is pathetic, I give it that. I'm visually impaired and frequently use the camera to read at a distance. Can't do it on this phone.
magoo5289 said:
The zoom is pathetic, I give it that. I'm visually impaired and frequently use the camera to read at a distance. Can't do it on this phone.
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It's digital zoom, obviously you lose quality when using it.
Someguyfromhell said:
It's digital zoom, obviously you lose quality when using it.
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All phones are digital zoom to my knowledge. This is the worst camera for zoom I've ever had on a phone.
not sure why people are complaining on smartphone cameras expecting to provide SLR like features.
3T camera is not bad at all, in fact it is better than in my HTC 10
worldsoutro said:
Does anyone have any tips to make the photos crisper? They seems fuzzy
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you did remove the small piece of film over the lens? (sorry had to ask)
zim2dive said:
you did remove the small piece of film over the lens? (sorry had to ask)
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... there's film over the lens? I didn't see it, and can't see it now
The iPhone with 2 cameras have optical zoom. So not all phones. Probably some huawei phones as well.
If you want clear zoom (for visually impaired) get a zoom lens that clips on.
As for fuzziness (this note is for OP) try fussing with the app. HQ mode etc.. Also is it low light or bright light?
get the google camera 4.2 apk very nice shoots

Google Camera Mod for P20 Pro

Hello @Arnova8G2,
I saw your work with the Google Camera Mod for various phones and I just want to say impressive work! I am using the Huawei P20 Pro and absolutely hates the Front Camera functionality. Tried to download your file to use on my phone but was unable to do so. When I try downloading it is says there as a problem parsing the package. Do you by any chance know if it would work with the P20 Pro? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
Dear @Arnova8G2 & @miniuser123,
I had S8 and you do fantastic job porting Pixel Xl 2 camera to all SD845 phones. And some other make port for LGV30 dual camera - rear camera and second wide angle camera.
Please make Pixel Xl 2 camera port for Huawei P20 Pro for 40MP, 10MP and camera zoom 3x, 5x.
isko01 said:
Dear @Arnova8G2 & @miniuser123,
I had S8 and you do fantastic job porting Pixel Xl 2 camera to all SD845 phones. And some other make port for LGV30 dual camera - rear camera and second wide angle camera.
Please make Pixel Xl 2 camera port for Huawei P20 Pro for 40MP, 10MP and camera zoom 3x, 5x.
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It makes absolutely no sense to do 40MP. It's the inferior mode, and processing overhead would be insane for HDR, even with full optimisation (which you'll never see on a port). It wouldn't work.
Only 10MP makes sense.
5x is a hybrid zoom. You'd need the Huawei software. Google Camera currently has no such functionality. Not that it supports any optical zoom (3x) by default either.
You can perhaps hope for 10MP with working HDR+ and front camera. Anything else? I'd say it's completely unrealistic / unnecessary.
After the software updates, the only thing I'd really see Google Camera as being useful for is the front camera and / or for AOSP when that becomes stable on the P20 Pro. But by then, a working port of Huawei Camera on the P20/Pro is quite likely - or at least more likely, and certainly more desirable than a Google Camera port.
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It makes absolutely no sense to do 40MP. It's the inferior mode, and processing overhead would be insane for HDR, even with full optimisation (which you'll never see on a port). It wouldn't work.
Only 10MP makes sense.
5x is a hybrid zoom. You'd need the Huawei software. Google Camera currently has no such functionality. Not that it supports any optical zoom (3x) by default either.
You can perhaps hope for 10MP with working HDR+ and front camera. Anything else? I'd say it's completely unrealistic / unnecessary.
After the software updates, the only thing I'd really see Google Camera as being useful for is the front camera and / or for AOSP when that becomes stable on the P20 Pro. But by then, a working port of Huawei Camera on the P20/Pro is quite likely - or at least more likely, and certainly more desirable than a Google Camera port.
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Yes, I am just hoping for the Front Camera to have the same Portrait Mode as the Google Camera as the Beauty Mode post-processing is through the roof even with it turned to zero. I am just hoping to use the Front Camera I have on the P20 to achieve the same Portrait result as I did from the Pixel 2 XL. Everything else about the P20 camera I can live with. Thank you.
Spacemanglam said:
Hello @Arnova8G2,
I saw your work with the Google Camera Mod for various phones and I just want to say impressive work! I am using the Huawei P20 Pro and absolutely hates the Front Camera functionality. Tried to download your file to use on my phone but was unable to do so. When I try downloading it is says there as a problem parsing the package. Do you by any chance know if it would work with the P20 Pro? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
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Yes! Finally someone who has the same struggle as I have!
P20 pro is a pretty expensive phone and I am beginning to feel disappointed with the less than stellar quality of its front camera.
I know that its a fixed focus lens on the front but how come Gogle Pixel was able to implement a sharp shooter front camera with a fixed focus? To think that it has 24 Megapixels?!?! Such a scam
Archer Casio said:
Yes! Finally someone who has the same struggle as I have!
P20 pro is a pretty expensive phone and I am beginning to feel disappointed with the less than stellar quality of its front camera.
I know that its a fixed focus lens on the front but how come Gogle Pixel was able to implement a sharp shooter front camera with a fixed focus? To think that it has 24 Megapixels?!?! Such a scam
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I don't think you understand what scam means.
Also, whilst not ideal, I suggest you learn how to work with fixed focus. You will not get bad results with it if you do, now that 'beauty' is in check.
mudnightoil said:
I don't think you understand what scam means.
Also, whilst not ideal, I suggest you learn how to work with fixed focus. You will not get bad results with it if you do, now that 'beauty' is in check.
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Hi @mudnightoil,
sorry for the rather strong term that I used. But yes, I have been trying to learn some workarounds with a fixed focus front camera. It's just that, it's difficult to adjust because I was just so used to autofocus front cameras like Asus Selfie. I just feel like the 24 megapixel camera of the p20 pro is a wasted potential.
Another argument that I have is with Google Pixel's 8 mp fixed focus lens producing more vivid and sharper selfies than P20 pro's 24 mp.
Both the background and the foreground are sharp. Dynamic range is better! I mean come on! I really hope it could be fixed via software update very soon!
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Archer Casio said:
Hi @mudnightoil,
sorry for the rather strong term that I used. But yes, I have been trying to learn some workarounds with a fixed focus front camera. It's just that, it's difficult to adjust because I was just so used to autofocus front cameras like Asus Selfie. I just feel like the 24 megapixel camera of the p20 pro is a wasted potential.
Another argument that I have is with Google Pixel's 8 mp fixed focus lens producing more vivid and sharper selfies than P20 pro's 24 mp.
Both the background and the foreground are sharp. Dynamic range is better! I mean come on! I really hope it could be fixed via software update very soon!
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Update:
Other than the shortcomings of the front camera, I have no other complaints with the P20 pro.
Spacemanglam said:
Yes, I am just hoping for the Front Camera to have the same Portrait Mode as the Google Camera as the Beauty Mode post-processing is through the roof even with it turned to zero. I am just hoping to use the Front Camera I have on the P20 to achieve the same Portrait result as I did from the Pixel 2 XL. Everything else about the P20 camera I can live with. Thank you.
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Same issue here ...the rear cameras are great ..but the front camera beautification is just too agressive even when set to zero . A google camera mod with HDR+ in just 10mp for rear camera and portrait enabled on both the front and rear will be really helpful .
someone has any idea what's changed on this camera mod?
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=898279&view=findpost&p=72790522
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61dj4t0ca716v7a/P20ProCamera-Magisk15+.zip?dl=1
starbase64 said:
someone has any idea what's changed on this camera mod?
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=898279&view=findpost&p=72790522
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61dj4t0ca716v7a/P20ProCamera-Magisk15+.zip?dl=1
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Yeah I saw that too, and curious what's changed in that. I assume that you need to be rooted to flash that?
starbase64 said:
someone has any idea what's changed on this camera mod?
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=898279&view=findpost&p=72790522
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61dj4t0ca716v7a/P20ProCamera-Magisk15+.zip?dl=1
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That's not a GCam port, that's to install the P20 Pro Camera software on a non-pro P20.
So far as I'm aware you'll need the libs to get it to work properly.
Tbh the pro has a monster camera set up.
The 40mp is more for landscape pics, the 10 for point and shoot.
the selfie cam has been great for me so far.
But then I've only had it since 11am 24th may so I'm sure I'll find some issues.
The rear cameras are great and on average they take better pictures than my Pixel 2. I also end up with pictures that I just otherwise would never have been able to capture with another cameraphone. There are some downsides though where I would love to use a hypothetical GCam port. Outdoor photography is a chore thanks to the auto "greenery" AI thing that cranks the saturation. The 10 MP auto mode also oversharpens like crazy. Pro mode is sometimes useful, but you lose things like HDR or aperture simulation which are lame tradeoffs.
The biggest issue for me though is the front camera, which is completely unusable thanks to the beauty mode that can't actually be fully disabled. I'm using Retrica right now which works pretty well but you lose the nice aperture/bokeh simulation of the P20 camera app. Small price to pay for a human looking face, but anyway that's mainly why I'm hoping for a GCam port.
I am very interested in development. Maybe it's possible.
dladz said:
So far as I'm aware you'll need the libs to get it to work properly.
Tbh the pro has a monster camera set up.
The 40mp is more for landscape pics, the 10 for point and shoot.
the selfie cam has been great for me so far.
But then I've only had it since 11am 24th may so I'm sure I'll find some issues.
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I've tested the 40MP on everything... it's fantastic. The detail I get out of each picture is a huge step up even from my old DSLR. Granted, I did not have an expensive lens, but the processing power on this phone easily surpasses that camera!
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I've tested the 40MP on everything... it's fantastic. The detail I get out of each picture is a huge step up even from my old DSLR. Granted, I did not have an expensive lens, but the processing power on this phone easily surpasses that camera!
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Lovely, perhaps the lineage ROM in the development section may be able to use it?
sarichter said:
I've tested the 40MP on everything... it's fantastic. The detail I get out of each picture is a huge step up even from my old DSLR. Granted, I did not have an expensive lens, but the processing power on this phone easily surpasses that camera!
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very unusual on fw 120 and previous
we get best results with 10mpx AI OFF
what do you set when you shot 40mpx?
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saturnspike said:
The rear cameras are great and on average they take better pictures than my Pixel 2. I also end up with pictures that I just otherwise would never have been able to capture with another cameraphone. There are some downsides though where I would love to use a hypothetical GCam port. Outdoor photography is a chore thanks to the auto "greenery" AI thing that cranks the saturation. The 10 MP auto mode also oversharpens like crazy. Pro mode is sometimes useful, but you lose things like HDR or aperture simulation which are lame tradeoffs.
The biggest issue for me though is the front camera, which is completely unusable thanks to the beauty mode that can't actually be fully disabled. I'm using Retrica right now which works pretty well but you lose the nice aperture/bokeh simulation of the P20 camera app. Small price to pay for a human looking face, but anyway that's mainly why I'm hoping for a GCam port.
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I also agree for the front camera pics quality
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very unusual on fw 120 and previous
we get best results with 10mpx AI OFF
what do you set when you shot 40mpx?
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The 10MP mode is superior in almost any setting. Hence why it's the default mode. That the 40MP mode is even exposed is mainly for marketing reasons.
mudnightoil said:
The 10MP mode is superior in almost any setting. Hence why it's the default mode. That the 40MP mode is even exposed is mainly for marketing reasons.
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That's not the case at all from my experience comparing 10 vs 40 vs 3x zoom in various situations.
In low light, 40mp is poor, but in well lit places, 40mp is far more detailed, less over-sharpened, and significantly nicer overall.
It's generally less processed, and HDR etc doesn't seem to be enabled on it, but it's certainly not inferior to 10mp in general, but is occasionally.
If you want to do any post processing, the 40mp is probably better in general... though I guess few would want to do this!

Question Defect or normal - ultra wide raw quality

Hi, bought the phone 2 days ago, because it's not with 888, it's not with curved display and has a ultra wide camera with AF and macro capabilities with raw support.
To my surprise, the quality of the raw file from the ultra wide is worse than from the periscope - there are some strange bright dots when you zoom in to 100%, which lead to overall bad quality of the ready image. I guess they are the phase focus pixels, but they shouldn't be visible without any heavy editing.
So, is it just me, or the problem is global, so I know how to proceed with this? I'm leaving a crop depicting the problem.
Are you sure the ultra wide angle has AF? but yeah it looks weird...
Qidamin said:
Are you sure the ultra wide angle has AF? but yeah it looks weird...
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That's why I chose this phone, for the af of the ultra wide.
I don't see it mentioned anywhere but as you have the phone you should know it better than me!
bo6o said:
That's why I chose this phone, for the af of the ultra wide.
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You are right, the Edge 20 review on GSMArena mentions the AF for wide angle. A good thing, but it's strange that the ultra wide angle pictures seem a bit blurry then. Did you try with Gcam?
Not yet.
Qidamin said:
You are right, the Edge 20 review on GSMArena mentions the AF for wide angle. A good thing, but it's strange that the ultra wide angle pictures seem a bit blurry then. Did you try with Gcam?
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Tried gcam, same story...
Which Gcam version you use? Try enabling Sabre and see if it makes a difference.
I tried the latest bsg, but removed it, cause the results weren't satisfactory or better than using the stock app as a real camera.
bo6o said:
I tried the latest bsg, but removed it, cause the results weren't satisfactory or better than using the stock app as a real camera.
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Hey did you manage to solve this issue? Any suggestions for the lackluster RAW outputs from the stock camera app??
The battle is legendary. Still no success defeating the defect. If it is a demozaicing problem, Motorola should fix it.
bo6o said:
The battle is legendary. Still no success defeating the defect. If it is a demozaicing problem, Motorola should fix it.
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THanks for the reply. I wonder how happy you are overall with the cameras? I've found that the front facing one is quite dark and has WB issues. In general the photos coming out of the stock camera seem riddled with artifacts and oversharpened.
sazinas said:
THanks for the reply. I wonder how happy you are overall with the cameras? I've found that the front facing one is quite dark and has WB issues. In general the photos coming out of the stock camera seem riddled with artifacts and oversharpened.
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Camera Is great as I see in reviews from owners and websites .
I don't even bother shooting in jpg, this is Motorola and they suck in camera performance and resolution logic.
But, I shoot raw, which is possible even with the selfie cam, and after a minute of editing I get sharp and impressive images, and that's why I bought it - the sensors itself are quite capable. If I find a solution to the problem with the ultrawide, the phone is a keeper...
fire159 said:
Camera Is great as I see in reviews from owners and websites .
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I actually own it. Reviews and (average) owners don't understand what we're talking about. Some offence.
bo6o said:
I don't even bother shooting in jpg, this is Motorola and they suck in camera performance and resolution logic.
But, I shoot raw, which is possible even with the selfie cam, and after a minute of editing I get sharp and impressive images, and that's why I bought it - the sensors itself are quite capable. If I find a solution to the problem with the ultrawide, the phone is a keeper...
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I hate the selfie cam and when video calling tho.... I look like a waterpainting and tanned
sazinas said:
I hate the selfie cam and when video calling tho.... I look like a waterpainting and tanned
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Learn to make your own jpg and you'll be able to see the dirt in your wrinkles on the selfies.
bo6o said:
I don't even bother shooting in jpg, this is Motorola and they suck in camera performance and resolution logic.
But, I shoot raw, which is possible even with the selfie cam, and after a minute of editing I get sharp and impressive images, and that's why I bought it - the sensors itself are quite capable. If I find a solution to the problem with the ultrawide, the phone is a keeper...
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Have you try Google cam ?
fire159 said:
Have you try Google cam ?
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Answered already here. Jpg from phones and actual cameras suck. The raw from gcam is also worse than using the phone as a real camera. Here's an example, learn photography if you expect miracles from a tiny sensor...
bo6o said:
Answered already here. Jpg from phones and actual cameras suck. The raw from gcam is also worse than using the phone as a real camera. Here's an example, learn photography if you expect miracles from a tiny sensor...
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Hasli's LMC Google camera mod seems to be working better with the wide angle cam (no artifacts)

Question should I buy the phone? How is the performance and camera quality? any heating problem?

should I buy the phone?
How is the performance and camera quality?
any heating problem?
For me it's the best. Go for it!
I can say that you buy it calmly, although if you want better photos you will need to replace the Stock Camera with the GCam. In Gaming it behaves quite well, I can even Interpolate Videos and at the same time make it Rescale using MPV.
It's a good phone, but if you have the money go straight for the Pro version, you won't be disappointed.
I buy it for design. I Love the rectangular design! Awesome !
Phone works fine for me. Is fast. Camera is bad for me comminig from OnePlus 9 Pro & 10 Pro.
And i look after Motorola Edge 30, newer .... whaaaattt?!? is the same phone, but expensive.
null0seven said:
I buy it for design. I Love the rectangular design! Awesome !
Phone works fine for me. Is fast. Camera is bad for me comminig from OnePlus 9 Pro & 10 Pro.
And i look after Motorola Edge 30, newer .... whaaaattt?!? is the same phone, but expensive.
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About the camera... I totally agree if we were talking about photos captured with the Stock Application. With GCam the quality of the photographs increases dramatically.
However, the OnePlus sensors are quality. In that sense, it is worth paying more money for a better camera.
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About the camera... I totally agree if we were talking about photos captured with the Stock Application. With GCam the quality of the photographs increases dramatically.
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Hi.
For installing Gcam you need unlocked bootloader, root ?
If is no need, wich version works best with our Motorola Edge 20?
null0seven said:
Hi.
For installing Gcam you need unlocked bootloader, root ?
If is no need, wich version works best with our Motorola Edge 20?
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It is not necessary to do any of those things that make you lose the guarantee. I use LMC version 8.2
I install this one. Funny, when i install this, Motorola camera is better...
MGC_8.4.600_A10_V10_ENG.
I did not find LMC at all.
Google Camera Port Developers/Modders
Description about each Google Camera Port developer and links to their download pages.
www.celsoazevedo.com
null0seven said:
I install this one. Funny, when i install this, Motorola camera is better...
MGC_8.4.600_A10_V10_ENG.
I did not find LMC at all.
Google Camera Port Developers/Modders
Description about each Google Camera Port developer and links to their download pages.
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LMC RELEASE
t.me
This is the LMC 8.4_R11. I can't upload the file here because it is too heavy.

Question Are you facing issues on Redmi Note 11 Camera?

Hello everyone,
I am so upset buying this Redmi Note 11 (spes) , everything exept camera is fine.
Do you know how to get better output from camera ?
Been facing same prob. I hear GCam looks better.
Paran360 said:
Hello everyone,
I am so upset buying this Redmi Note 11 (spes) , everything exept camera is fine.
Do you know how to get better output from camera ?
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G cam worked for me, stock camera application is crap, shooting with flashlight will results in blue pics, hah rubbish even my oppo a37 shoots better than note 11
sarib said:
G cam worked for me, stock camera application is crap, shooting with flashlight will results in blue pics, hah rubbish even my oppo a37 shoots better than note 11
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Did you try EU stable rom?
Paran360 said:
Did you try EU stable rom?
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I've not tried any rom yet, actually I'm unable to decide which distro I should choose, I want to try Pixel Experience but I can't see it near future
sarib said:
G cam worked for me, stock camera application is crap, shooting with flashlight will results in blue pics, hah rubbish even my oppo a37 shoots better than note 11
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Would you mind sharing which GCam version and config you are using please ?
nevernding said:
Would you mind sharing which GCam version and config you are using please ?
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Latest 8.1.101, without configurations cuz there's not any config file for note 11, +wide camera isn't working properly
in android 12.1 GSI PE Plus i use OnePlus Camera Ported by AyraHikary
Yesterday I have found out (on my Redmi Note 11 with Superior-OS) that the pixelation / blur in photos (I thought it's caused by ****ty Camera app / driver) might be resolved by using better Gallery app:
https://apkpure.com/gallery-photo-gallery-album/gallery.photomanager.picturegalleryapp.imagegallery
Oifan said:
Yesterday I have found out (on my Redmi Note 11 with Superior-OS) that the pixelation / blur in photos (I thought it's caused by ****ty Camera app / driver) might be resolved by using better Gallery app:
https://apkpure.com/gallery-photo-gallery-album/gallery.photomanager.picturegalleryapp.imagegallery
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How does another gallary app fix the photo?
Gun Striker said:
How does another gallary app fix the photo?
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It has fixed the quality / speed of the picture rendering -- during scolling & zooming of a picture (subway map) I have seen pixelated / blurred areas (for > 1sec) and I thought it's a camera problem. But when I used another gallery app, it was pixelated only for maybe 0.5sec and then it got perfectly sharp.
I mean it's not Windows so it doesn't show you the icon (when the app is busy and the user should wait) -- so I was not sure whether the app is busy rendering or not.
I noticed camer on the redmi is not as good as the camera on my MiA2. I am hoping gcam will fix that but I will have to use the stock camera app sometimes for pro mode.
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I noticed camer on the redmi is not as good as the camera on my MiA2. I am hoping gcam will fix that but I will have to use the stock camera app sometimes for pro mode.
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gcam does give slightly better results , but i think the 50mp sensor is a dog tbh
The Mero said:
gcam does give slightly better results , but i think the 50mp sensor is a dog tbh
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I have noticed the "auto" picture with gcam is way better than the auto setting on the stock app. Using the pro mode on the stock app though I can get a more realistic picture by adjusting white balance etc manually but the image still isn't as crisp as gcam. Night mode on gcam is amazing too.
Can't seem to get the 50mp to work on gcam so can't compare that. I use the 50mp feature to take pictures of signs or large blocks of text, I can definitely get better clarity when zooming in but I wouldn't call it a great looking picture. Luckily that isn't why I bought the phone.
The camera doesn't knock out true 50mp photos , they pixels are arranged in groups of 4 so 4 small ones make up one bigger one hence the 12.5mp photos . 50mp photos are just enlarged 12.5 ones really . And You may notice a lot of versions of gcam are knocking out 8mp photos too , try the version I posted in the gcam thread with the XML ( it's got an agc extension for some reason ) . It produces 12.5s and it's the sharpest gcam I've seen yet , although white balance is a bit off it can easily be corrected in Snapseed
And tbh I'm starting to think this phone is a dog , phone call volume seems pretty low compared to my old x3 NFC . That with the Bluetooth audio dropouts , crappy camera .. only good thing about it is the screen lol
I am happy for now, aside from the camera it's still an upgrade from my MiA2 and it cost me less than a decent dinner in a restaurant.

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