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The "Phone idle" process in this phone is drainage a lot of battery, about 20% average. I understand for Android 6 Google have stricter requirements to list battery stats, but since this device don't have that yet I don't really know what's really causing it.
It's not a big deal yet because the battery life is very good on it's own, so I still have plenty of battery after the end of the day. For now I will try disabling all the gesture features and see if that's the culprit.
I've heard that if you have a lousy LTE signal where you spend most of your time, your phone constantly looks for a better signal and that process drains the battery. How's your signal strength? Maybe try airplane mode and see if that makes a difference.
battery drain in idle is at least 5-6%. noticed that i had battery up in full charge before going to bed and by the morning it was at 94%. no calls/messages/alarms/notifications during that time. however all background sync tasks were running
Not sure whats causing this . Only getting 4 hours sot. Main reason i got it for my work phone because of battery life. Any tips would be great. I have sync on for work email. And lte and almost anything automatic. Had a moto for work before and got 6 hours of sot
jason4962 said:
Not sure whats causing this . Only getting 4 hours sot. Main reason i got it for my work phone because of battery life. Any tips would be great. I have sync on for work email. And lte and almost anything automatic. Had a moto for work before and got 6 hours of sot
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I noticed when I turned on Black Screen Gestures the phone drained a lot faster. I turned it off and disabled a bunch of apps and this is what I got so far.
I am getting very good battery life. Stock everything except for root. Black screen gesture on, google now disabled.
emowing said:
I am getting very good battery life. Stock everything except for root. Black screen gesture on, google now disabled.
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im stock also . did you factory reset your phone? i also notice your on sim 2 slot i might give that a try
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im stock also . did you factory reset your phone? i also notice your on sim 2 slot i might give that a try
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When I rooted my phone, I had to "factory reset" (formatted /data and /cache). I am using sim slot 2 only since I don't want to take the battery out to swap sim if needed. I am not using an SD card.
this is mine . do you see all the Awake . its by android system and idle
this is from the battery monitor app
That's strange.. Something is wrong with that graph for sure.. Have you tried using your phone in safe mode?
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That's strange.. Something is wrong with that graph for sure.. Have you tried using your phone in safe mode?
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how do you disable google now anyways. i only have google now cards turn off i cant find setting to completely disable it.
is this even accurate
1000 mah? instead of 3150mah
I am rooted, I have Greenify, Xposed, and Amplify installed This combination seems to make sure the phone goes in to deep sleep now. Using CPU Spy I was able to see that my phone was not going in to deep sleep very much.
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how do you disable google now anyways. i only have google now cards turn off i cant find setting to completely disable it.
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You can disable Google Now by dialing the Google search app. Or if you have a back up, you can delete the priv-app/velvet folder.
I am getting big time phone drain and I don't even have a SIM card in yet. Battery graph says the phone is awake the whole time. I had black screen gestures enabled but I'm gonna try to disable those.
My phone standby is about 10% drop per day. Dual SIM standby, one AT&T , one TMO.
It drained mine as well. What I was able to do in order to offset it was twofold Xposed and 'prevent running' app. Then simply a matter of disabling everything you can think of that will not interfere with booting. I can list what worked for me as far as apps and system apps if you'd like. I have total 57 and testing tomorrow more. Just over half are system apps like play store play services google+, etc...
Doing that saved almost enough to offset near 25-30% average. Idle as yours. Next I simply adjusted my habits with keeping GPS off, WiFi on though even sleeping.
THE biggest issue is Adups spyware comes pre installed on it. It collects every letter typed, site seen, text sent..All of it. Using terminal emulator and pm disable works until reboot. Freezing it seems to trigger more hidden like com.fw.upgrade.fota.sysoper to collect. I tell you as well many claim to remove it I have tried 12 ways. It is a battle and 1 I contacted BLU over this to no avail. Second BLU phone and last. Huawei, Samsung and ZTE also have this installed for this phone they are (at least the known ones)
com.adups.fota
com.adups.fota.sysoper
com.fw.upgade.fota.sysoper
There are more but offhand I forget them. *.quicksearch something and what is not stock browser but similarly named.
*.sysoper anything is assuredly as are anything with adups in the name. Use Mixplorer and sqlitedb viewer and go to /data/data find the folders and look at the db's it is everything. Sent to a server in Shanghai every 72 hours or less
Somewhere earlier this year I started getting a 20% overnight battery drain. On a few nights it didn't drain, but its pretty consistent. I have tried everything listed on this forum..This drain is definitely not caused by any standard settings. I am really hoping somebody with insight into Oreo might have something new I could try. I know xda user Digisteve is going to showup and suggest more things, and that is also not going to work.
Things I've tried.
- using root to disable logd. (saw this as a process in BBS) Still drained.
- Disabling auto-sync of all accounts. Still drained.
- Turning on stamina mode at night. Still drained.
- Removed google play store, google play services framework, and all google aps - and replaced with alternative China app store. - Still drained. Not a play services problem.
- Turning off wifi, all wifi scanning, notifications of wifi networks etc. Still drained.
- Turning off mobile data and wifi - no connectivity at all. Still drained.
- Turned of location in all possible device settings,. Still drained.
- Rooted the device with Janjan method/kernal. Still drained.
- Flashed different regions. Including (Taiwan, my region, Malaysia, Germany, Swiss, HK). Still drained.
- Tried firmware verions , 179 , 205, 235, 270
- Deleting 3rd party apps. Still drained.
- Installing Gsam - checking for consuming apps. No apps listed as cause of the drain.
- Installed greenify. Tried as standard, non-rooted with adb permissions, and fully rooted. Still drained.
- Disabling various packages related to 'carrier services', qualcomm and rcs. Still drained.
- Debloated to the point that the phone had no google apps, no Xperia apps and removed tons of other apps, camera bloat, anon data, etc, all removed. Still drained.
- All built in apps replaced with a 3rd party app, including, sms, contacts, email, keyboard. Still drained.
- Installed Linage OS 15.1 Beta 5. Still drained.
- switched from 3G only to LTE only. both drained equally.. though I have worse single with LTE in my area.
I am hoping there is a better solution than throwing the phone away. Because I am pretty much at that point now. I have spent probably well over 120 hours trying to fix this, and I can't. Its at the point where I need to move on to a new device rather than waste more time.... but there are no small devices on the market now, and also no more classic xperia style devices on the market. Sony does not make the executive, classic 'Xperia' style I fell in love with anymore. I don't do round, heavy, huge phones. Very sad.
UPDATE - AUGUST 14
Now running the latest Customized German 270 firmware.
Still draining 20% per night. Check out the screen shots - clear to see I have almost no apps. No process can be seen as a battery hog in both Gsam and BBS. However Gsam screenshot shows evidence of CPU usage.
UPDATE - SEPTEMBER 13 - FOUND THE PROBLEM
Considering almost nobody had my issue, I assumed my phone must be a dud. Late August I bought a second XZ1 compact. The new phone worked for 1 day, and on the second day drained battery at 15% per night idle drain. Previously I had only tested the sim card by switching 3g,4g and disable mobile data, but never actually removing the sim from the phone. Last 2 nights I replaced my old sim with my gf sim of a different carrier. In the morning I had 99% battery remaining. No Drain!
I then downloaded an app these measures signal strength, and turns out where I sleep at night, there is is less reception. Its not noticeable just looking at the standard signal strength on your home screen, you need to check the more detailed strength in decibel millimps /dbm. I can still get good signal in most areas of my house, but the phone is having to use more power to keep the signal good. I can now reproduce the battery drain on demand. If I sleep with the phone near my bed, I get drain. But if I keep the phone in the living room, no drain. I found that connecting to wifi not a factor, since even if you use wifi for data, the phone was still holding open a connection the the cell tower.
This problem took me months, countless hours, and the expense of buying a completely new phone!!! Now I have 2 XZ1 compacts....arg.... but so happy its solved.
The important point is that if testing sim, good signal, or disabling mobile data, changing 3g 4g isn't enough. Your phone is using more power to maintain good signal.
Thank you to everyone who spend time trying to help me, digestive, proflyer, etc. Thank you guys.
At this point, I think it's highly likely you got yourself a lemon. Since you've already rooted the phone, warranty service is out of the question.
It boils down to two options:
1. Pay for a board replacement.
2. Try your luck with a brand new XZ1C. Buy it online so that you'll get the 7 days return perk (some online stores offer 10 days), keep it wrapped in its original packaging, handle with extreme care, and use it normally for a few days before your return window runs out. If you no longer get drains, congrats, and welcome to the club. If not, accept your fate, return it for a full refund, and give up on the XZ1C - understand that you weren't meant for each other and move on.
I had the same issue. Check this thread. Try that and report back.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...ormal-battery-consumption-wifi-t3740495/page3
I know what you feel. I had this too, but mine went away and I only very rarely have this drain. But mine was always on Wifi. With Wifi off = no drain reported... never.
I investigated it for weeks without coming to a conclusion.
If you can, replace the phone with warranty. Worth a try. Right now in my opinion you have a hardware faulty device.
But i would say to wait for android 9. In my opinion it wont take ages to come. It will much likely come this year.
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I had the same issue. Check this thread. Try that and report back.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...ormal-battery-consumption-wifi-t3740495/page3
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He still has drain even with WIfi Off, so that not the problem.
The only other thing I could suggest is having the battery replaced at a local repair shop. If you got a lemon battery but an otherwise fine phone, that could help.
How about remove your SIM card with wifi on for over night? Do you still experience the drain?
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UPDATE - AUGUST 11
ONE WORK AROUND. If I reboot the phone, then unlock it so "android is starting" screen is complete. Then lock the phone, without doing anything else - The battery does not drain overnight. In light of this, what could be the solution? I know an app sounds logical, but I arlready checking my 3rd party apps, and none of them were the probably, an no battery app has ever listed an app as a drain.
Any technical or Dev person go any idea what that symptom points towards?
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This does indeed sound like an app or a service gets stuck in an awkward way. You indicated in your first post that you use better battery stats, do you mind posting screenshots of the top of the summary, kernel wakelocks and partial wakelocks page (showing keeping awake services) as well as the bottom of the cpu states page (showing deep sleep time) "since unplugged" after a few hours of drain?
I have attached corresponding screenshots here for my xz1c (after more than 24 hours unplugged) as a reference (I have play services enabled and syncing both gmail and contacts and so on, no root though).
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UPDATE - AUGUST 11
ONE WORK AROUND. If I reboot the phone, then unlock it so "android is starting" screen is complete. Then lock the phone, without doing anything else - The battery does not drain overnight. In light of this, what could be the solution? I know an app sounds logical, but I arlready checking my 3rd party apps, and none of them were the probably, an no battery app has ever listed an app as a drain.
Any technical or Dev person go any idea what that symptom points towards?
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That doesnt make too much sense. Test it for at least one week before coming to conclusions.
Try this and let me know if it works
I had exactly the same issue
What i did (now magicaly works)
I did not have too many time so what I did was simple and I got a cheap replacement phone in the meantime
It seems to be beyond everything we tried
I conected the phone to the pc and did the fix with xperia companion, then I realized that everything was working as soon as I started to install the apps the problem came back, I installed a launcher (nova) and use it, drained the battery útil reach zero and fully charge it, then everything was working... Back to normal... I don't know how the issue was solved but hope it works for you
Sorry about my bad english xD
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This does indeed sound like an app or a service gets stuck in an awkward way. You indicated in your first post that you use better battery stats, do you mind posting screenshots of the top of the summary, kernel wakelocks and partial wakelocks page (showing keeping awake services) as well as the bottom of the cpu states page (showing deep sleep time) "since unplugged" after a few hours of drain?
I have attached corresponding screenshots here for my xz1c (after more than 24 hours unplugged) as a reference (I have play services enabled and syncing both gmail and contacts and so on, no root though).
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Hi ergoen - thanks for the interest in my problem. Please see all the screenshots attatched, including BBS and Gsam.
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Please see all the screenshots attatched,
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The screenshots from BBS look pretty normal, the GSMBattery shots show issues with Google Play Services, so I'm guessing they were taken at different times. But there's nothing jumps out of the stats that looks out of the ordinary. Have you run the phone in safe mode overnight to see if you get the same drain? I think you may just have a duff battery, no one else has reported this sort of power loss before.
$40 down the repair shop to get a new battery is going to be a whole lot cheaper than a new phone.
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I installed a launcher (nova) and use it,
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I have read somewhere else that Sony's Home is very thirsty with power, I will give your suggestion a go
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The screenshots from BBS look pretty normal, the GSMBattery shots show issues with Google Play Services, so I'm guessing they were taken at different times. But there's nothing jumps out of the stats that looks out of the ordinary. Have you run the phone in safe mode overnight to see if you get the same drain? I think you may just have a duff battery, no one else has reported this sort of power loss before.
$40 down the repair shop to get a new battery is going to be a whole lot cheaper than a new phone.
I have read somewhere else that Sony's Home is very thirsty with power, I will give your suggestion a go
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Thanks didgetsteve. your probably right.... The GSAM and BBS stats were taken right after each other, maybe a gap of 2 mins. Play Services wasnt the issue though, as I tried my phone google free, and it still drained.
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Thanks didgetsteve. your probably right.... The GSAM and BBS stats were taken right after each other, maybe a gap of 2 mins. Play Services wasnt the issue though, as I tried my phone google free, and it still drained.
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I agree with didgesteve, nothing jumps out by just looking at bbs (I am not familiar with gsam, so I cannot comment so much on that).
Before replacing the battery, I would probably make sure that it is not radio/network related. I have noticed that my phone draws significantly different amount of battery (in deep sleep mode) depending on the mobile network. This is mostly independent on whether mobile data is on or off.
Could you turn on airplane mode for an hour or two and verify that it is not the radio chip that is causing your drain? (If that is the cause, I am not sure if you can do anything about it apart from switching carriers or experimenting with 2g/3g/4g settings, but it might be worth knowing)
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I agree with didgesteve, nothing jumps out by just looking at bbs (I am not familiar with gsam, so I cannot comment so much on that).
Before replacing the battery, I would probably make sure that it is not radio/network related. I have noticed that my phone draws significantly different amount of battery (in deep sleep mode) depending on the mobile network. This is mostly independent on whether mobile data is on or off.
Could you turn on airplane mode for an hour or two and verify that it is not the radio chip that is causing your drain? (If that is the cause, I am not sure if you can do anything about it apart from switching carriers or experimenting with 2g/3g/4g settings, but it might be worth knowing)
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Didgesteve said:
The screenshots from BBS look pretty normal, the GSMBattery shots show issues with Google Play Services, so I'm guessing they were taken at different times. But there's nothing jumps out of the stats that looks out of the ordinary. Have you run the phone in safe mode overnight to see if you get the same drain? I think you may just have a duff battery, no one else has reported this sort of power loss before.
$40 down the repair shop to get a new battery is going to be a whole lot cheaper than a new phone.
I have read somewhere else that Sony's Home is very thirsty with power, I will give your suggestion a go
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I also had the drain that Dean has. But mine wasnt so agressive, I mean, some days it was there draining 30% battery over my sleep time (8hrs) and sometime it just behaved normally draining max 3% over sleep time. But still from time to time the drain come back wich is annoying as I cant let my phone with 30% battery left when im going to sleep, afraid the battery will be dead and the alarm wont wacke me up lol.
On my extensive tests, the drain only happened with wifi, but even deactivating all wifi related process (backups, syncs etc) the drain was sometimes there. Wifi wasnt the culprit with Dean, but on my tests: Wifi On = Sometimes big drain , Wifi Off = never drain.
I never managed to find the culprit of this damn drain and Im a software tester. Gsam did not show anything unusual at all. It was like Deans screenshot.
We discussed about this issue a lot here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1-compact/help/battery-life-bit-odd-t3688342/page8) but till this day we dont know whats triggering it.
Im curious how the phone will behave on this issue with android P.
@ergoen @Didgesteve . Can you guys comment on my 4th screen shot, the one where you can see the CPU usage. Does anything strike you as odd in that pic? TThe CPU util looks high... it is normal?
i dont see nothing odd there
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@ergoen @Didgesteve . Can you guys comment on my 4th screen shot, the one where you can see the CPU usage. Does anything strike you as odd in that pic? TThe CPU util looks high... it is normal?
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I'm sorry, but I don't think I have the knowledge to judge that. I would expect CPU usage to be low in deep sleep mode, but since the CPU is mostly sleeping, I guess any requested usage will queue up in a way that might look odd, so what you are seeing might be normal (but again, I don't actually know). I also believe that CPU power consumption is mostly related to the frequency state it is in, so deep sleep should mean low consumption (independent on cpu util %).
As I indicated in my previous post, I would sooner blame the radio chip or the battery than the CPU given your BBS screenshots.
mi drain came back today... some days its there and some days its not...
what a fvcking piece of sh1t is this phone... im done with the all tests. time to try samsung.
profyler said:
mi drain came back today... some days its there and some days its not...
what a fvcking piece of sh1t is this phone... im done with the all tests. time to try samsung.
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Bro, Samsung is even worse when it comes to battery drain. Check out linus tech tips vid from a few days ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n46s_iF_IV4&t=324s
My wifes side of the family all have Samsungs.... they are totally ****. The OS is bloated, ugly, laggy despite monster specs huge ram, snap 845, and battery nightmares on brand new phones exactly like in Linus's video. And there is a stupid "BIXBY BUTTON" on the phone which is a total nightmare. if your with Samsung, BIXBY will the with you, following you forever.
In other news, I replaced my Taiwan XZ1 compact with an Australian XZ1 Compact, and my drain is gone. I drained 2% last night.
There are so many build differences with the Taiwan and Australian build of the phone. Bigger microphone holes, slightly different proximity sensor design, and the plastic back is a rough matt black/gray in the AU versions, the TW version was a smoother shiny midnight black with a silver sparkle in the sun. The biggest difference was of course the battery drain.
I would like to say that i hope to make this thread a sticky, and that we as community, can help each other to eliminate the problem with standby drain or any battery related issue.
I would like to open with a recent issue related to Pie, rouge apps, which results in too much battery drain on idle and overnight.
I recently disabled powergenie to maximize performance of device and make sure that my apps won't auto dim(i'll post the commands here, so you won't have to search it):
pm disable-user --user 0 com.huawei.powergenie
pm uninstall --user 0 com.huawei.powergenie
I've been monitoring the battery life ever since, and noticed at first a faster drain on idle, that's because i had some rogue dating apps that i didn't think drain too much(PowerGenie might have prevented them from over draining, even though they ran in the background).
Which brings me to the next conclusion- On android PIE, media apps might drain more power than usual, as it wasn't the case with Oreo.
Since i use various dating apps like Tinder,Grindr,OkCupid, it all might contributed to that fact, mainly tinder which was draining battery even in silent operation.
Some here are some advices: If u use dating apps, at least tinder, make sure it's not running in the background.
Instagram is also a battery sucker, facebook app is the biggest sucker, u might use facebook and messenger light.
When you go to sleep, make sure that u have no active media apps in the background, as they'll try to connect to the net even if you have turned it off(Using Airplane mode kinda defeats the purpose of low idle drain), make sure to turn off all unneeded services such as Bluetooth, Wifi, Mobile Data, Location.
I'll update it, the more i'll find, i'll post some of my recent battery life(was using phone whole night, so it didn't overdrain in the night or idle time).
Powergenie specifically kills app wakelocks that are running too long if they aren't white listed so it's not surprising that some "rogue apps" are causing power drain after you disabled Powergenie since stopping rogue apps from causing power drain is the purpose of Powergenie in the first place.
I'm assuming you disabled Powergenie so you would receive more timely notifications but you probably ended up killing a fly with a bazooka.
There are less aggressive methods that generally fix that problem like removing important apps from Huawei's battery optomization and changing the app's notification priority to the highest available.
Unless your phone is rooted it's impossible for you to block any wakelocks yourself and closing the apps you see open in the display window doesn't stop them from running in the background--it just frees memory.
You can manually stop apps running from the settings/applications menu but they can be restarted by another app or by a system process.
I wish you luck but with Powergenie disabled you are going to end up with additional idle battery drain.
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Powergenie specifically kills app wakelocks that are running too long if they aren't white listed so it's not surprising that some "rogue apps" are causing power drain after you disabled Powergenie since stopping rogue apps from causing power drain is the purpose of Powergenie in the first place.
I'm assuming you disabled Powergenie so you would receive more timely notifications but you probably ended up killing a fly with a bazooka.
There are less aggressive methods that generally fix that problem like removing important apps from Huawei's battery optomization and changing the app's notification priority to the highest available.
Unless your phone is rooted it's impossible for you to block any wakelocks yourself and closing the apps you see open in the display window doesn't stop them from running in the background--it just frees memory.
You can manually stop apps running from the settings/applications menu but they can be restarted by another app or by a system process.
I wish you luck but with Powergenie disabled you are going to end up with additional idle battery drain.
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Not sure there I've had this removed for almost 2 weeks and I have quite a vast improvement in the battery performance, also I was having background colour issues with XDA, huawei video and YouTube which has since stopped. Apps open a lot faster and even when I opened Google photos There was a pause in loading photos which has since gone.
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Powergenie specifically kills app wakelocks that are running too long if they aren't white listed so it's not surprising that some "rogue apps" are causing power drain after you disabled Powergenie since stopping rogue apps from causing power drain is the purpose of Powergenie in the first place.
I'm assuming you disabled Powergenie so you would receive more timely notifications but you probably ended up killing a fly with a bazooka.
There are less aggressive methods that generally fix that problem like removing important apps from Huawei's battery optomization and changing the app's notification priority to the highest available.
Unless your phone is rooted it's impossible for you to block any wakelocks yourself and closing the apps you see open in the display window doesn't stop them from running in the background--it just frees memory.
You can manually stop apps running from the settings/applications menu but they can be restarted by another app or by a system process.
I wish you luck but with Powergenie disabled you are going to end up with additional idle battery drain.
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That's why it's in testing phase, i get notification and no force close apps. removed hauwei launcher and now toying with powergenie.
I might bring it back and see how it fares on vs it's off, when it's off, you gotta be more aware of wakelocks as you said.
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That's why it's in testing phase, i get notification and no force close apps. removed hauwei launcher and now toying with powergenie.
I might bring it back and see how it fares on vs it's off, when it's off, you gotta be more aware of wakelocks as you said.
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I also uninstalled Powergenie 3 weeks ago. Don't really notice a difference with the battery time. But I'm happy my screen no longers dims brightness within certain apps.
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Not sure there I've had this removed for almost 2 weeks and I have quite a vast improvement in the battery performance, also I was having background colour issues with XDA, huawei video and YouTube which has since stopped. Apps open a lot faster and even when I opened Google photos There was a pause in loading photos which has since gone.
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I remember somewhere you said you could still see your battery software stats, despite uninstalling Powergenie? You had installed GSam battery monitor if I'm right? Then do you need to give that app permissions via ADB? Otherwise you won't be able to see the app usage right? After only installing GSam battery monitor I don't see the app usage yet. Also do you have the free or pro version? And doesn't GSam battery itself consume battery?
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I also uninstalled Powergenie 3 weeks ago. Don't really notice a difference with the battery time. But I'm happy my screen no longers dims brightness within certain apps.
I remember somewhere you said you could still see your battery software stats, despite uninstalling Powergenie? You had installed GSam battery monitor if I'm right? Then do you need to give that app permissions via ADB? Otherwise you won't be able to see the app usage right? After only installing GSam battery monitor I don't see the app usage yet. Also do you have the free or pro version? And doesn't GSam battery itself consume battery?
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The stats in battery are gone, but I have Gsam battery Pro, it seems to not use much battery at all, but then I am relying on Gsam to tell me about its own product, but it has the stats pretty reasonable.
Don't understand what the top numbers are about but tells me I'm getting average of 9.20 screen on time, and 10.10 hrs max
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The stats in battery are gone, but I have Gsam battery Pro, it seems to not use much battery at all, but then I am relying on Gsam to tell me about its own product, but it has the stats pretty reasonable.
Don't understand what the top numbers are about but tells me I'm getting average of 9.20 screen on time, and 10.10 hrs max
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Oke. I've installed the app but can't see the software usage yet. Do I need to grant GSam battery monitor acces via adb before I can see my software usage?
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Oke. I've installed the app but can't see the software usage yet. Do I need to grant GSam battery monitor acces via adb before I can see my software usage?
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Yes, it should prompt you the instructions when you start it.
Darkat70 said:
Not sure there I've had this removed for almost 2 weeks and I have quite a vast improvement in the battery performance, also I was having background colour issues with XDA, huawei video and YouTube which has since stopped. Apps open a lot faster and even when I opened Google photos There was a pause in loading photos which has since gone.
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Seeing an improvement in battery service likely depends on what apps you actually have installed. Apps that were referred to in a separate post as "rogue apps" have wakelocks that will prevent the phone from going to sleep and cause constant battery drain. They are coded either accidentally or intentionally so they will not be affected by standard power saving measures coded into stock Android.
Social media and dating apps are the most likely to do this on purpose so users always receive notifications immediately rather than when Google Play Services does a background sync. These types of user installed apps don't have the elevated system priveledges of something like an sms app so the only way to make them provide notifications immediately is to keep the apps awake in the background which drains battery.
I'm surprised you would see improved battery life with PowerGenie disabled but apparently PowerGenie is using more power blocking wakelocks than the apps creating the wakelocks use when left alone.
I haven't experienced any of the problems that you say disabling PowerGenie fixed on your handset but there are slightly different versions of the OS depending on where and how you got your phone. Some have carrier specific apps. Some have the Google Trust Agent and standard Google Smart Lock options. Some have the Huawei Trust Agent instead and only have a smart lock option for Bluetooth devices. Some have the standard Google Feed as an option on the stock launcher and others have a Huawei created screen instead. Some features are different or missing altogether depending on what region you select for the phone. Some stock Huawei stock apps don't work at all in certain regions. There are a whole lot of variables involved so everybody isn't going to have the same results that you had when disabling PowerGenie.
There's also the difference between the LG and BOE displays. I had phones with both and kept the handset with the LG display because it was brighter, had much richer colors and noticably faster pixel response.
I did notice an issue with brightness dimming while certain apps were running but only on the handset with the BOE display.
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Seeing an improvement in battery service likely depends on what apps you actually have installed. Apps that were referred to in a separate post as "rogue apps" have wakelocks that will prevent the phone from going to sleep and cause constant battery drain. They are coded either accidentally or intentionally so they will not be affected by standard power saving measures coded into stock Android.
Social media and dating apps are the most likely to do this on purpose so users always receive notifications immediately rather than when Google Play Services does a background sync. These types of user installed apps don't have the elevated system priveledges of something like an sms app so the only way to make them provide notifications immediately is to keep the apps awake in the background which drains battery.
I'm surprised you would see improved battery life with PowerGenie disabled but apparently PowerGenie is using more power blocking wakelocks than the apps creating the wakelocks use when left alone.
I haven't experienced any of the problems that you say disabling PowerGenie fixed on your handset but there are slightly different versions of the OS depending on where and how you got your phone. Some have carrier specific apps. Some have the Google Trust Agent and standard Google Smart Lock options. Some have the Huawei Trust Agent instead and only have a smart lock option for Bluetooth devices. Some have the standard Google Feed as an option on the stock launcher and others have a Huawei created screen instead. Some features are different or missing altogether depending on what region you select for the phone. Some stock Huawei stock apps don't work at all in certain regions. There are a whole lot of variables involved so everybody isn't going to have the same results that you had when disabling PowerGenie.
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Indeed, I put my dating and social media apps on auto manage and brought powergenie back for now.
Results vary between different configurations, but social media apps needs to be kept eye on, in case you decide to doable powergenie
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Seeing an improvement in battery service likely depends on what apps you actually have installed. Apps that were referred to in a separate post as "rogue apps" have wakelocks that will prevent the phone from going to sleep and cause constant battery drain. They are coded either accidentally or intentionally so they will not be affected by standard power saving measures coded into stock Android.
Social media and dating apps are the most likely to do this on purpose so users always receive notifications immediately rather than when Google Play Services does a background sync. These types of user installed apps don't have the elevated system priveledges of something like an sms app so the only way to make them provide notifications immediately is to keep the apps awake in the background which drains battery.
I'm surprised you would see improved battery life with PowerGenie disabled but apparently PowerGenie is using more power blocking wakelocks than the apps creating the wakelocks use when left alone.
I haven't experienced any of the problems that you say disabling PowerGenie fixed on your handset but there are slightly different versions of the OS depending on where and how you got your phone. Some have carrier specific apps. Some have the Google Trust Agent and standard Google Smart Lock options. Some have the Huawei Trust Agent instead and only have a smart lock option for Bluetooth devices. Some have the standard Google Feed as an option on the stock launcher and others have a Huawei created screen instead. Some features are different or missing altogether depending on what region you select for the phone. Some stock Huawei stock apps don't work at all in certain regions. There are a whole lot of variables involved so everybody isn't going to have the same results that you had when disabling PowerGenie.
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None of this really is relevant to the fact that I was using the phone for 8 weeks with power genie, then soon as I have removed it I have seen a dramatic improvement. The results speak for themselves.
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None of this really is relevant to the fact that I was using the phone for 8 weeks with power genie, then soon as I have removed it I have seen a dramatic improvement. The results speak for themselves.
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Except the thread OP who followed your advice is now apparently experiencing signifigantly more battery drain with PowerGenie disabled (which is the opposite of your experience) and the fact that I haven't seen any of the problems disabling PowerGenie fixed for you.
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Except the thread OP who followed your advice is now apparently experiencing signifigantly more battery drain with PowerGenie disabled (which is the opposite of your experience) and the fact that I haven't seen any of the problems disabling PowerGenie fixed for you.
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Still irrelevant, since I have better performance and quality improvement. So you stating that it's not possible doesn't change the fact that it is.
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Since I updated to .187 I have a strange issue.
I booted into recovery cleared the cache, fully charge the battery at 100% I get 11minutes before dropping to 99%
If I Go to apps and manually clear the cache 1 by 1 fully charge I get 36 minutes before dropping to 99%
This is with or without powergenie. Which is currently disabled.
Very strange.
Why is it if I have uninstalled Power Genie is it possible to still be a running service.
Developer options/running service
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Yes, also running on mine even after disabling it.
Just stopped it now. Let's see the results. In any case, pretty happy with the battery so far. Also phone is snappier now.
i have tried both with and with out for weeks at a time same usage pattern same network same location, and settings and the only difference i notice is that on idle with out powergenie the phone discharges faster with powergenie enable it stays for a longer time with out losing juice in terms of SOT and usage it was basically the same with it on or off. At least for me.
I've got a problem with the removal of Powergenie since Emui 9.1
On Emui 9.0 I had no problems whatsoever. But since 9.1.0.300 my battery drains very quick. I even tried factory resetting a few times, without backup and I don't have much apps installed, the same apps as I had on 9.0... Also the battery charges slower, because the phone gets hotter. I checked for draining apps with GSam battery monitor, but all apps behave normal.
Only when I put Powergenie back the problems are gone...
I had this problem first on 9.1.0.300, then 9.1.0.310 and now still on 9.1.0.320.
I really want a solution for this problem as I don't want to keep Powergenie installed. With Powergenie installed my screen dims in bright apps. So when I open an app like Whatsapp, Chrome, GMail, or even the calender or notes app, the screen gets dimmer. When you close the app, the screen gets brighter again. This is so terrible annoying and I don't like this behaviour at all.
As far as I know there is no other solution for this problem, except uninstalling Powergenie.... Before I found the Powergenie solution I was really thinking about returning or selling this phone, just because of the dimming issue. But now there is a new problem
Can anyone help me with this problem? Does anyone else have this same issue? Right now I'm even thinking about buying another phone... But maybe Android 10 / Emui 10 will fix the problem?
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I've got a problem with the removal of Powergenie since Emui 9.1
On Emui 9.0 I had no problems whatsoever. But since 9.1.0.300 my battery drains very quick. I even tried factory resetting a few times, without backup and I don't have much apps installed, the same apps as I had on 9.0... Also the battery charges slower, because the phone gets hotter. I checked for draining apps with GSam battery monitor, but all apps behave normal.
Only when I put Powergenie back the problems are gone...
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I don't remember reading about a similar problem...so are you sure it's not an app or something else you uninstalled? I have none of these problems (and I whacked Power Genie 3 months ago, along with 3-4 other Huawei apps) - certainly I didn't expect charging to be affected or that the battery drains actually faster.
The fact that factory default does not have a positive effect is alarming - remind me, does that also restore the system apps you uninstalled using adb? I thought it does...
Running 9.1.0.325 on LYA-L0C.
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I don't remember reading about a similar problem...so are you sure it's not an app or something else you uninstalled? I have none of these problems (and I whacked Power Genie 3 months ago, along with 3-4 other Huawei apps) - certainly I didn't expect charging to be affected or that the battery drains actually faster.
The fact that factory default does not have a positive effect is alarming - remind me, does that also restore the system apps you uninstalled using adb? I thought it does...
Running 9.1.0.325 on LYA-L0C.
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I even had Powergenie uninstalled since around March I think. Never had a problem with it untill Emui 9.1 came.
I have not installed any new app. It surely is strange that a factory reset doesn't help. But when I enable Powergenie again, the battery behaves normally again. But then I have that horrible screen dimming back. :crying:
Hi. Can someone help me with my problem?
Im facing massive battery drain even after wipe, im only getting around 3/4h SOT. In BBS, 2 alarms are weird Job.delay. And job.deadline. I have wiped my phone, installed last version of rom, after that i have restored my apps. Problem still exist. Next i have installed kirasakura kernel and then frozen every of my apps, and its still there. After night im losing around 10/20% of battery. Im attaching some screens from bbs. Thanks in advance for every help.
i'll try to help as much as i can. install servicely and look at running services. if you see something weird, stop that service.
also, i see you're using bluetooth. that thing drained my battery as bluetooth would stay turned on even when it says it's off. what you can do is turn it on and off and it should stop bluetooth service from running.
in servicely you can disable apps from running in the background. maybe some app is running full throttle even tho you thought you closed it.
another thing you can check is if xmode is running. once i had system turning on xmode on even tho i closed the app that used it.
as you're rooted, check with some kernel manager what cpu governor is turned on. maybe the system is stuck in performance mode.
lastly, you can check your battery capacity. maybe it needs calibration. that could also result in battery drain as it's not charged to the max.
also, android 10 is generaly badly optimised for our phone. it has some good features, but powerwise it's not that efficient.
if nothing works out, i'd suggest returning to latest android 9 and do battery calibration.
Thanks for answer. I have installed servicely but im not see anything suspicious. Xmode is off, governor ist in performance mode. About battery calibration, i dont need extra juice from my battery, i want to lose 1% over night, not 20%.. Probably around July/august everything was fine, my battery last for almost 3 days, now something eating it alive and i dont know what is it. Can i somehow check which app generate this "job" alarms? In BBS its "Android" only..
battery calibration isn't about extra juice, it's about system showing the right percentage. you could lose a lot of battery because it doesn't get charged to its max capacity.
there could also be a problem with the lastest update. when i was seeing a lot of battery drain, i had it because system constantly used location services. check in services if there are any location processes running. also it could be because of network. maybe your phone is constantly switching between 3g and 4g.
you can also check in the kernel manager what is your current battery draw in mAh. if its always over 300mAh, then you have a problem.
look for a wakelocks running in the background and disable and enable some to get them resetted.
Probably u have solved my problem. Even after turning off location, i still have some running services with location in name. I have blocked all of them in servicely and after night i lost 1% of battery. I will check now in later days. Thanks a lot
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Probably u have solved my problem. Even after turning off location, i still have some running services with location in name. I have blocked all of them i servicely and after night i lost 1% of battery. I will check now in later days. Thanks a lot
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A reload generally solves nothing and wastes time. It's always best to find the root cause(s) and address them directly otherwise they tend to reoccur.
Viruses (never had to), boot loops (prey it works) and old loads are the only times I reload.
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Probably u have solved my problem. Even after turning off location, i still have some running services with location in name. I have blocked all of them in servicely and after night i lost 1% of battery. I will check now in later days. Thanks a lot
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yeah i thought it could be that. it's also worth checking if you have "find my phone" turned on. it's somewhere in the settings. search for device admin apps. if you see any apps turned on as device administrators, turn that off. those could also drain battery
Yep, i have turned off "find my phone" now. Thanks once again. Now i have nearly 8h SoT again. I hope it will be all good now
i'd still do battery calibration if i were you. 8 hours of sot is not that much. i mean, it is if you're playing games all the time
After couple of days, problem is back. No new apps, 3 days was good, 0/1% drain in night, now its again about 15/20%. I will just sell this phone becouse i dont have any more patience...6000mah and my OP3 with half of that value can ez get about 5h sot. Aktually im getting about 3/4h sot and 3h calls. When i have bought this phone i have had about 10 h SOT and 5 h of calls in 3 days of usage. Never again gonna buy phone from asus. Thanks guys for every help
i wouldn't condemn the whole brand because of one phone model.
also try going back to android 9 and check how's the battery drain without any apps installed. then start installing your apps and monitoring if the drain will increase.
i'm currently on android 10 and there is some major problem with battery regulation. raw capacity goes below zero when the percentage is below 10 percent. no wonder the whole system starts stuttering when battery level is below 3%.
Hi all,
Is anyone facing an issue with google play services draining the battery...I get so angry when I see that damn app draining my battery...the battery stats says it's running in the background...why, I don't know! It's recent phenomenon and has been running since the past 20hrs or so...how do I solve this? I'm not sure cleaning the data/ cache would be ideal as this would only lead to more drain since play services will try to download all the info that it has previously....any help will be greatly appreciated!
So 1% battery loss from a system service running for 20 hours in the background is a big problem...?
I'm a bit confused here...
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So 1% battery loss from a system service running for 20 hours in the background is a big problem...?
I'm a bit confused here...
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Actually, it's a bit more than 1%...more like 23% over the past 6 days or so...here's the screenshot...I don't know if this apt battery usage or if google play services need to be given a knock on its head...
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Actually, it's a bit more than 1%...more like 23% over the past 6 days or so...here's the screenshot...I don't know if this apt battery usage or if google play services need to be given a knock on its head...
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Ah, so 0.16% battery per hour. So a bit more than normal. What version of the phone do you have (which processor) and what apps do you have installed that weren't listed?
Also, how do you keep charging your phone so slightly as shown in the picture?
Oh yes, GPlayS will eat up the battery...
Download Karma Firewall and block Google Play Services. It may be shown by it's UID, on my 10+ it's 10044.
You can unblock it as needed like for Gmail or Playstore (block Playstore as well*).
Block Android Services as well, UID 1000.
It's pretty useless but polls the internet 2 times every minute, GPlayS is 4 times a minute.
On Pie Karma's logging feature works so I can see what each apk is doing or not... Q and up sucks.
*disable if you have a package blocker except when needed. A reboot is required and GPS must be unblocked too for Playstore.
Clear Google Play Services, Backup Transport and Framework data as well. Best to disable the latter two. Someone told the latter two aren't present in Q... I can't verify that either way.
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Ah, so 0.15972% battery per hour. So a bit more than normal. What version of the phone do you have and what apps do you have installed that weren't listed?
Also, how do you keep charging your phone so slightly as shown in the picture?
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Hi, I have the 21Ultra 12/256. The funny thing is that play services started acting up only lately...I have been using the phone for 1 week+ and this app starting going berserk just 20 hours ago! It's very likely a rogue update could have caused this issue and I'm sure if I uninstall the update all should be fine...let me do that and see how it performs...
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Hi, I have the 21Ultra 12/256. The funny thing is that play services started acting up only lately...I have been using the phone for 1 week+ and this app starting going berserk just 20 hours ago! It's very likely a rogue update could have caused this issue and I'm sure if I uninstall the update all should be fine...let me do that and see how it performs...
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My AT&T Note 10+ did the same thing and it wasn't an update that triggered it.
Power management was part of the problem.
I run now with all power management disabled except for fast charging and Optimized screen/cpu setting.
When I turn this phone off it goes into deep sleep...
blackhawk said:
My AT&T Note 10+ did the same thing and it wasn't an update that triggered it.
Power management was part of the problem.
I run now with all power management disabled except for fast charging and Optimized screen/cpu setting.
When I turn this phone off it goes into deep sleep...
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Power management, you refer to the ones that show in the battery settings right? But I don't know how the battery power management settings relate to google play services drain...I have betterbatterystats and it shows that google play is the top most draining app...why I can't understand...
I have a feeling it's the feb update that's messing with the battery settings..Jan update was cool...is there a way to roll back to update before AUB6?
Here's an update...I uninstalled the updates to google play services and cleared the cache. Rebooted...and all's going well so far.
Definitely try out the suggestions made by @destz0r in the video that he left. I guess that I don't ever experience the same problem as I always leave location services disabled unless I'm directly using them for navigation. But I never would've guessed that GPS occasionally leads to more GPlay Service specific battery consumption (as I had thought that GPlay Services were primarily for inner-Google app data communication)...
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Definitely try out the suggestions made by @destz0r in the video that he left. I guess that I don't ever experience the same problem as I always leave location services disabled unless I'm directly using them for navigation. But I never would've guessed that GPS occasionally leads to more GPlay Service specific battery consumption (as I had thought that GPlay Services were primarily for inner-Google app data communication)...
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I already had all those suggestions in place right at the time of setting up the device initially..but yes, uninstalling the play services update cleared the issue...for the moment...
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Power management, you refer to the ones that show in the battery settings right? But I don't know how the battery power management settings relate to google play services drain...I have betterbatterystats and it shows that google play is the top most draining app...why I can't understand...
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Power management seems to create conflicts after a few days running. GooglePS includes Backup Transport and Framework. Even when turned off they continue to run in the background on my device.
Play with it, see what you find but don't ignore and let this trashware toast your battery.